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Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has expressed complete solidarity with the Gazans under attack (Photo: Reuters)

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has expressed complete solidarity with the Gazans under attack (Photo: Reuters)

In unity, Palestinians say they are in it for the long haul and will not agree to ceasefire conditions that don’t include a lifting of Israel’s inhumane blockade of Gaza. President Abbas has now backed Hamas’ ceasefire demands.  Al-Akhbar News:

 The Palestinian Authority on Wednesday endorsed demands by Hamas for halting Gaza hostilities with Israel, a closing of ranks … as the Palestinian death toll in the Israeli assault rose to 693.

The New York Times gets around to mentioning those demands a little bit late in its coverage, “In Israel, Kerry Sees ‘Work to Do’ to Get Deal on Cease-Fire:”

The aims of his visit seemed to be to get a better sense of the Israelis’ bottom line, to support the United Nations effort and to enhance the stature of Mr. Abbas, whose influence among Palestinians is being eclipsed by that of Hamas.

Mr. Abbas…early Wednesday appeared to have aligned himself more with Hamaswhose leaders have said they will not halt the hostilities until several demands are met. Those include opening crossings into Egypt and Israel, easing restrictions by Israel on farming, fishing, imports and exports, and releasing prisoners  who were recently rearrested by Israel after having been freed in a 2011 exchange for a soldier Hamas held captive for five years.

“The demands of Gaza to end the aggression and lift the blockade are the demands of the entire Palestinian people,” said a statement read on  Palestinian television by Yasser Abed Rabbo of the Palestine Liberation Organization’s executive committee.”

Kerry also said that the Egyptians have provided “a framework and a forum for [Hamas] to be able to come to the table to have a serious discussion together with other factions of the Palestinians.”

You’d think that Kerry had seen the folly of “frameworks” before this? Especially when Palestinians have set forth their terms, which are the opposite of Israeli conditions, rolled out by the compliant media as an “Egyptian framework.” But it was not an Egyptian proposal.

Even Richard Engel reported it on NBC last night: Palestinians are willing to undergo even more attacks if they will end their “prison” conditions in Gaza. The latest framework is yet another empty promise of what’s to come after Hamas complies to Israeli demands. And nothing comes of these empty promises except more of the same; it amounts to slow strangulation verses choosing to be annihilated now, in the view of many Palestinians.

So what does it mean when The New York Times reports that Kerry’s visit is “to get a better sense of the Israelis’ bottom line”? It means our State Department has likely gotten the message the Palestinians are not budging. It means it’s Israel’s turn to comply, something they are completely unfamiliar with. As I argued in my piece last week, Israel is in a pickle, All Israel knows how to do when it doesn’t get its way from Palestinian society is to inflict violence. And this time, all the killing is actually hurting it in the court of world opinion.

I’ve just been in Lebanon, and the Arab press says that Israeli intelligence is woefully lacking. That Israel doesn’t know where the weapons caches are, how many there are, what quality they are, or how to get to at them. They want missiles and rockets to stop flying over Israel but are unwilling to address the reasons they keep coming. They cannot face the fact that it was their own actions that started this war– abhorrence over Palestinian reconciliation and unity, followed by weeks of retribution and pogroms in the West Bank under a false pretense — and that they have violated earlier agreements with Hamas (re-arresting Palestinian prisoners released in exchange for Shalit).

From the beginning of this savage operation weeks ago, analysts on Arab television said this time it was different. This time Israel was rudderless and lost. As the world witnesses carnage, Israel can’t stop until its needs are met and their extremists are calling to “exterminate the enemy”, to completely destroy Gaza if necessary.

For the most part the western press isn’t even mentioning the roadmap that everyone in the Arab world sees in Gaza: this time around, Hamas is using Hezbollah tactics. Those tunnels Israel keeps deploring? “Copying Hezbollah:”

Hamas’s tunnel network follows the successful use of tunnels by Hezbollah against an Israeli incursion into Lebanon in 2006.

The Lebanese Shiite militant group built its first prototype of an underground bunker in the mid-1980s, which can be seen today at its tourist museum in Mlita, Lebanon.

But it wasn’t until Israel’s withdrawal from south Lebanon in 2000 that Hezbollah began building up an extensive system of underground bunkers and rocket launchers, with an estimated 1,000 facilities by the time of the 2006 war between Israel and Hezbollah. During the fighting, some massive underground networks were found, including one with air conditioning, a cafeteria, dorms, medical facilities, and 3-foot-thick cement ceilings – all built secretly in view of a United Nations outpost along Israel’s border…

Many Israeli analysts say that Hamas gleaned its tunnel-building expertise from Hezbollah, though it is unclear whether they traveled to Lebanon, hosted Hezbollah operatives in Gaza, or shared knowledge remotely.

The tunnels have allowed both militant organizations to build up their rocket capabilities and preserve an element of surprise in their attacks against Israel, though Hezbollah’s capabilities far outweigh those of Hamas.

Those tunnels mean that Israel becomes enmeshed:

Last fall, Israel discovered and destroyed a mile-long tunnel built more than 60 feet under the border over the course of about a year.  An officer who formerly served in the IDF’s geology unit told the Times of Israel that it was professionally done and heavily reinforced with concrete. The fossilized sea shells and deeper water table in that part of Gaza make it more conducive to tunneling, the officer said.

“The decision to go in 1 to 2 kilometers (0.6 to 1.2 miles) is our decision. But once you’re in 1 to 2 kilometers and you stay there, you’re sitting there and you’ve become targets that you were not before,” says Col. Eisin, noting that the rocket fire that prompted Israel’s escalation is likely to continue. “Unless you physically conquer all of the Gaza Strip, which takes longer than a week … until the last day there will be firing of rockets.”

So what we’re seeing now is Israel’s attempts at “physically conquer[ing] all of the Gaza Strip.” Which amounts to the obliteration of one neighborhood after another. And that famed intel? It was reported in the Arab press that after the massacre in Shuja’iyeh, Israeli soldiers captured civilians for the purpose of extracting information from them where they might find the tunnels. No doubt this tactic is being used in Khan Younis. It suggests that Israel has been unable to extract helpful information from the thousands of Palestinian prisoners being held in Israeli jails. 

None of this bodes well for the future. Again, as the world stands by witnessing the ongoing genocidal slaughter, the best advice for Israel is to end the blockade.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas expressed complete Palestinian solidarity on this point. “No One will Enjoy Stability as long as Gaza Children Do not:”

It is time that we all raise our rightful voices in the face of Israel’s killing and destruction machine. Israeli forces have crossed all lines and broken all international laws and humanitarian values with the utmost brutality. We know we do not have planes or artillery tanks but what we have is stronger than this fire power and arrogance. We have the strength of righteousness and justice; we are the owners of this right that no force on earth can erase; it is a historical right baptized with heavy sacrifices. We have our unity and our resolve and so I call on all to rise above our differences at this difficult time and have national responsibility, stay away from narrow factionalism and realize that the main goal of this Israeli onslaught is to destroy our national cause and abort reconciliation.

We reiterate to our people that we are committed to national unity and ending the split and the national consensus government. We will go to the far side of the world to stop this onslaught and retake our legitimate rights. We will pursue those who commit war crimes against our people no matter how long it takes. These crimes will not go unpunished.

I repeat the importance of getting the Palestinian cause out of any tug-of-wars and to halt this policy of double standards because one drop of blood from a Palestinian child is more precious to us than anything in the world.

To our people in Gaza: your pain is our pain and the pain of the entire people and your suffering has dug a deep wound in our hearts. We have no words to explain what we are feeling. Your wounds are our wounds and our anger is huge. We will never forget nor forgive and our people will not kneel to anyone but God. No one in the world will enjoy stability and safety if this is not granted to the children of Gaza, Jerusalem, the West Bank and all of Palestine’s children.

Glory and eternity to our faithful martyrs. Right, justice and the Palestinian people’s will will emerge victorious. We will not be terrorized by killing nor destruction. We will rebuild what the aggression has destroyed and we will mend our wounds until our inevitable victory arrives and our flag waves over our capital Jerusalem at the Aqsa Mosque and the Holy Sepulcher.

“Permission [to fight] has been given to those who are being fought, because they were wronged. And indeed, Allah is competent to give them victory.”

annie
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  1. can of worms
    can of worms
    July 24, 2014, 2:39 pm

    Words of Abbas that fall flat (like, too little too late) as he does not go to the ICC, or above all disband the PA.

    “your pain is our pain and the pain of the entire people and your suffering has dug a deep wound in our hearts.” = “we are heartbroken”

    • Justpassingby
      Justpassingby
      July 24, 2014, 3:25 pm

      He is a traitor and should be put out of power!

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        July 24, 2014, 3:51 pm

        Intifada 3 may have started

        http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.606934

        “Thousands of Palestinians are marching from Ramallah towards Jerusalem. Palestinian ambulances, blaring their horns, are streaming in the opposite direction, carrying protesters wounded by IDF fire at the Kalandia checkpoint.” (Amira Hass)

        Fuck Zionism
        https://twitter.com/MJayRosenberg
        In DC and suburbs every synagogue posts this in front: “We Stand With Israel In Its Struggle For Peace & Security.” SHAMEFUL LIE.

        And thanks to Mahane for outing himself today.

      • annie
        annie
        July 24, 2014, 4:31 pm

        thanks seafoid. just got an email alerting me to kalandia

      • annie
        annie
        July 24, 2014, 5:30 pm

        and now i read they’ve killed 2 people in the WB.

      • just
        just
        July 24, 2014, 5:45 pm

        And why not, Annie?

        According to the US, they have every right to do as they please.

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        July 25, 2014, 4:12 am

        Good grief our Annie went to Lebanon! Did Phil go too? If not, will he ever? I’ll have everyone know that Lebanon is a fantastic place to analyze the region from: so much uncensored information by analysts transmitted there on a daily basis gives one a most fascinating and clearer read of the ‘big picture’. And what a cool, beautiful and welcoming country it is too! Exactly the reasons I’ve been hanging here for a couple of years. I’ll be sad to leave it this coming Autumn.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        July 25, 2014, 7:23 am

        I’ll be sad to leave it this coming Autumn.

        Where will you be going next Taxi?

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        July 25, 2014, 7:43 am

        Shingo,

        I’ll be going back home to LA, back to being a beach bum on a California beach.

        Los Angeles would be the absolute best city in the whole world if not for its several million zionists on botox swanning about the place.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        July 25, 2014, 7:51 am

        Los Angeles would be the absolute best city in the whole world if not for its several million zionists on botox swanning about the place.

        There’s always Sydney ;-)

        What part of LA do you live in, may I ask. I love the place.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        July 25, 2014, 8:06 am

        taxi- “Los Angeles would be the absolute best city in the whole world if not for its several million zionists on botox swanning about the place.” sometimes the word zionist is a synonym for Jew and anti zionist is a synonym for anti jew. taxi’s example is perfect.

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        July 25, 2014, 9:14 am

        yonah,
        There’s a heckalotta non-jewish zionists in LA – just check out the Hollywood A-listers on parade. And of all the LA jews that I’m friends with, only one is a confessed zionist – and that’s really because his mum is catholic and his father is jewish but his father abandoned him when he was a kid so zionism has become his substitute-father: in other words, his zionism is more of a psychological prop than an idealist belief.

        So, yonah… there goes your pathetic attempt to smear me, there it goes spiraling down Le Grand Toilette.

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        July 25, 2014, 9:42 am

        Shingo,

        I live somewhere between Malibu and Marina Del Ray. That’s as much as I can give out.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        July 25, 2014, 7:28 pm

        Sorry Taxi,

        I didn’t mean to pry.

        I have a close friend Marina Del Ray, so I spent a lot if time there. A great part of the world. I always breathed a sigh of relief when I returned back there from visits to the Hollywood area or the Valley.

        It’s going to be surreal to be back home and watching the crap that passes for news , but I suppose you’re still able to watch it from Lebanon.

        In the mean time, enjoy

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        July 25, 2014, 6:36 pm

        taxi- I get it. The zionist jews use botox and the nonzionist jews don’t use botox and therefore your reference to millions of zionists was to only those who use botox who are zionists, but the others are fine and this is just a smear. and tell us about how the elections in egypt are going to establish al sisi as a democrat. how about that, miss “smear”. and tell us how assad is a democrat, miss “smear”.

      • just
        just
        July 24, 2014, 4:39 pm

        Thanks seafoid.

      • annie
        annie
        July 24, 2014, 4:51 pm

        And thanks to Mahane for outing himself today.

        i missed that. what thread?

      • annie
        annie
        July 24, 2014, 5:25 pm

        oh that. we’ve put the poor lad out of his misery, for good. i’m curious what kind of replacement hasbara central will be sending us. he’ll be a tough act to follow.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        July 24, 2014, 5:21 pm

        How did Mehane out himself Seafoid?

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        July 24, 2014, 5:26 pm

        He called the site satanic and terror loving. Fully signed up bot.
        He’s probably posting pornographic pictures of himself to cheer up the female IDF soldiers in Gaza this evening.

      • amigo
        amigo
        July 24, 2014, 7:28 pm

        “i’m curious what kind of replacement hasbara central will be sending us. he’ll be a tough act to follow.” Annie.

        enaheM. 4/5 and 6.

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        July 24, 2014, 6:54 pm

        No one can blame these poor people for their desperation, frustration, and this strong push for their freedom. No one talks about the occupation, and it is the topmost issue that needs to be addressed. These poor Palestinians have suffered TOO much, endured a lot, more than others have, for decades.
        They are aware that agreeing to a ceasefire will not address their grievances, and when Israel decides it is time to mow down the lawn, very soon, they will have to pay again with their lives.
        Israel has lost the PR war, and after seeing the scenes of slaughter, I doubt it can save face. It looks ugly, and only their usual arm twisting will bring back their “friends”.

      • Abierno
        Abierno
        July 24, 2014, 6:37 pm

        This is exactly what Israel wants to happen. The reason for this war is the Palestinian unity government, which is holding together. It is important to remember that Hamas, a political party, has been designated at Israeli insistence, as a terrorist organization, and thus the US, UK and European countries are prohibited from interacting with them, also at Israeli insistence. Abbas has shown impressive acumen in navigating the treacherous shoals of both Israeli and Palestinian politics. Readers of this site well know that confrontational Palestinians have a habit of unexpected death or imprisonment. He adhered to all of Kerry’s requests for the peace initiative, thereby highlighting Netanyahu’s consistently instransient behavior – evermore settlements, failing to release prisoners and rampant incitement against Palestinians. After the peace process collapsed, Abbas rapidly moved forward to consolidate the gains made by Palestine being a UN observer state: Appeal to Security Council and UN for protectorate (of which nothing is said), enrollment in the Geneva Conventions and on July 7th signed the paperwork to join the ICC. This has enabled considerable Palestinian leverage in the UN to present their concerns and to maneuver, further calling out the isolation of the US in its full throated support for the genocidal atrocities currently being committed by Israel. Hamas, on the other hand, is providing a sturdy defense as best they can, against the most militarized state in the world. Gazans have spoken clearly that they would rather be dead then under Israeli occupation. While there appears to be little movement among the prime time players (Israel, US, Egypt), the BRICS, the Arab League, SEATO and South America are looking on in horror. The question of political blowback to the US/Israel position is not a question of “if” but of “when.”

      • just
        just
        July 24, 2014, 6:40 pm

        Thanks for that comment, Abierno.

        I think that you are correct.

      • adele
        adele
        July 24, 2014, 7:12 pm

        excellent points Abierno, and timely. I too get the sense that Abbas is trying to outmaneuver Israel at their own game. I may be wrong but I get the sense that Fatah is aligning itself with the Palestinian civil society/grassroots. In which case it will be more difficult for Israel to bomb its way out of that situation if the Palestinians are united and once again engage in massive protests, etc.

        The Hamas bogeyman was convenient for Israel because it exploited the anti-Islamic sentiments of the West (particularly post 9/11) and many nations went along with it in their wholesale backing of designating Hamas a terrorist organization (which is nonsense considering Israel’s criminal actions in denying Palestinian Gazans their basic rights). It will be near impossible for Israel to portray Abbas as a “terrorist” and try and justify its violence against Palestinians in the West Bank.

        The question is then: when will world governments unanimously condemn Israel’s actions and take concrete trade & arms embargo actions? And how long can the U.S. keep them from doing so?

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        July 25, 2014, 5:46 am

        “It will be near impossible for Israel to portray Abbas as a “terrorist” and try and justify its violence against Palestinians in the West Bank. ” Good. There should be a price to pay for jerking this guy around for so long, making him play the stupid game then rolling over him they (Fatah/Hamas) formed a unity government, which apparently even the clever israelis didn’t see coming. I hope he sticks with his guns.

      • Inanna
        Inanna
        July 25, 2014, 8:18 am

        Abierno, I think you’re wildly exaggerating the strategic capacity of Abbas and the PA. They’ve been caught out and are trying desperately to keep up. In the first week of this massacre, they were still being mealy-mouthed and blaming Hamas for the assault on Gaza. PA politicians denounced Hamas again when they rejected the Egypt/Israel ceasefire. It’s only now when Hamas is being successful and Israel is recognised to be so brutal that they realized they had to change their rhetoric suddenly to avoid bearing the brunt of the anger of residents of the West Bank.

      • Kathryn
        Kathryn
        July 25, 2014, 3:02 pm

        I agree 100% with your assessment of Abbas. He has in the past caved inb to pressure from Israel and US. The only PA rep that spoke out against what Israel has been doing is Hanan Ashrawi, who did so very eloquently. http://mycatbirdseat.com/2014/07/plos-hanan-ashrawi-deliberate-massacre-in-gaza/

        The only reason Abbas is speaking up now after 18 days of slaughter is the uprising of Palestinians in the WB.

    • ritzl
      ritzl
      July 24, 2014, 5:19 pm

      I think whether Abbas is full of it or not rests upon whether the PA keeps beating its own people/demonstrators with sticks.

      They’ve apparently decided to to accede to the Rome Statute as precursor for they themselves going to the ICC (i.e. they’ve concluded that no one is going to present the Palestinian case for them; itself an indication of what Palestine is up against just to get there, let alone persevere).

      Abbas has been trying to thread a microscopic needle with a rope, rightly or wrongly or conveniently. The next few weeks will show if he/PA have received any durable clarity of purpose.

      • can of worms
        can of worms
        July 24, 2014, 10:52 pm

        Those giving Abbas the benefit of the doubt point out that he’s consolidated gains at the UN. He’s given the lie to Israeli calls for ‘peace’. Others say he’s actually the most clever of all, because he secretly knows the Palestinians have only one kind of “bomb”–the demographic bomb.

        In the end these claims don’t hold water. “I want to see Safed. It’s my right to see it but not to live there.” “Palestine for me is the 1967 borders with East Jerusalem as the capital. I am a refugee, I live in Ramallah. The West Bank and Gaza is Palestine, everything else is Israel,” he said in 2012 to israel’s channel 2. Huh? And during these recent alleged kidnappings, Abbas actually stated that if it turned out that Hamas did it, it would endanger the unity deal. BTW he had also caved in to pressure to delay the Goldstone Report until convenient for USA/Israel.
        Secondly the PA is led by neoliberalists and former IMFers. It’s like the ANC. Since Oslo the few on top in Ramallah get wealthier — a dangerous formula — while for 20 years the rest have become more and more wretched. Thirdly after gains had been made at the UN it was certainly time to disband the PA and let Israelis feel the price of occupation. The PLO can still pursue said gains.

      • ritzl
        ritzl
        July 25, 2014, 12:44 am

        @can- I guess I’m suggesting this latest Israeli slaughterfest may have changed him or those around him. Actually taking the concrete steps to go to the ICC is a meaningfully different attitude than three weeks ago. It suggests an epiphany. A then and now comparison.

        Your description of the PA leadership is accurate, imho. To me that says that the epiphany – the realization of the total futility of the former “embrace the carrots” strategy – may be fleeting.

        So which is going to have more effect on an ultimate just outcome, personal financial gains/the illusion of the Ramadan bubble or this Gaza slaughter? The PA may backslide but the realization that the horror in Gaza is never going to end unless they do something may kick their asses just enough to propel them forward.

        It’s pretty hard to tell what the stronger influence will be over time.

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        July 25, 2014, 3:12 am

        Ritzl

        All law is political.
        The Palestinians needed a change in how Israel is perceived to go to the ICC.
        Netanyahu provided it. That bloodlust is perfect.

      • ritzl
        ritzl
        July 25, 2014, 4:05 pm

        @seafoid- Agree, sadly. The ICC is political. Cold as this is to say, the Palestinians would never get a hearing if things just “bumped along” under the radar (10 killings a week). Israel’s bloodlust changed that. Two data points (2008, 2012) form a line, three establish a pattern/trend. A pattern is, at least potentially, more actionable.

        Sad part is they may still not get a hearing, but the PLO seems to see an opening. What else can they do?

  2. LuLu
    LuLu
    July 24, 2014, 3:10 pm

    “The Arab press says that Israeli intelligence is woefully lacking. That Israel doesn’t know where the weapons caches are, how many there are, what quality they are, or how to get to at them” This is very true because they would not be using spies within Gaza to mark the homes or infrastructure before they drop loads of bombs at it. Spies are going around and putting a small GPS chip devices on homes and seen running, minutes later the home is bombed. They just caught one two days ago, a older lady saw a man who she has seen in the neighborhood before and he put something next to the front door, she started screaming at him because he was acting suspiciously and started running when she was screaming for the neighbors in the street to apprehend him. They caught him. But minutes after he put whatever on the home i.e gps chip I assume, (the article that had this story said it was like a SD card, once I find the article I will leave link, there was a you tube video with the lady and men who caught this guy on you tube, do not remember what it was under) the home is toppled with bombs from Israel.

    • Kay24
      Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 5:12 pm

      They certainly seem inept. They mindless send their deadly weapons into any civilian structure, not giving a damn if there are innocent women and children in there.
      WOULD THEY BE JUST AS INDIFFERENT, IF ISRAELIS WERE INSIDE THESE HOMES?

    • Kathryn
      Kathryn
      July 25, 2014, 3:12 pm

      It sure puts the lie to Israel’s capabilities in anything but bombing. With Israel having such technological capabilites and not doubt access to US spy satelite info (i.e. ground piercing radar etce), it is amazing that they have to bomb whole cities to dust while claiming they are just “looking for tunnels”.

      Of course looking for tunnels is just an excuse used for invasion and genocide.

  3. Kathleen
    Kathleen
    July 24, 2014, 3:18 pm

    This past Sunday on Melissa Harris Perry was the first time anyone brought up that Hamas wanted the blockade lifted. Going to Tehran’s Hillary Mann Leverett brought this critical issue up. Since then have actually heard this fact brought up on MSNBC numerous times. Former Ambassador Marc Ginsberg (who is often an Israeli apologist) went out on a limb today on MSNBC’s Jose Diaz Balart’s (new host, very good) Ginsberg said Israel needs to “lift the siege” and said Palestinian’s want a country called “Palestine.”

    This morning Morning Joe loaded it up for Israel with bloody Bill Kristol, Joe Klein (a real racist when it comes to support for Israel) and Andrea Mitchell (who is starting to be factual). They finally had a Palestinian on to share the facts on the ground with their listening audience. PLO leader Ambassador Maen Rashid Arekait on their program. Mika just can’t seem to feel the same empathy she demonstrates for victims in the air crash and other disasters for Palestinian victims.

    Today on MSNBC’s Joy Reid Steve Clemons actually came and stated that Palestinians are “being slaughtered. The MSM is changing folks and we are all still pushing for the facts on the ground here in the U.S.

    • Kay24
      Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 5:16 pm

      I just saw that shameless AIPAC servant Eliot Engel, the man who proudly stood beside Geller to proclaim his love for Israel, lie and state the usual hasbara talking points, stating it was worse in Syria. This man is an embarrassment. I wonder if he is one of those congress people who received a lot of AIPAC contributions, or is he simply sent around to justify the massacre in Gaza?

      Right now Regev is on CNN, saying Khamas this, and Khamas that.

  4. a blah chick
    a blah chick
    July 24, 2014, 3:18 pm

    I saw a report on Maan news which said another 7 or 8 soldiers were killed today. Added to Walid’s count of 50 means they have lost nearly 60 men, and they haven’t even begun the”conquest.”

    Poor Mr Satan, he thought it was to be another few weeks of lawnmowing and now he’s got this s**t storm. He can’t pull out now because Bennet and Lieberman will have his ass. And if he keeps on killing he risks losing the Squisy Left who, though useless, do have the ear of many people.

    Natanyahu is up the creek without a paddle, map, GPS and the crocs are trying to crawl inside. I would be enjoying the spectacle but too many people are dying.

  5. bilal a
    bilal a
    July 24, 2014, 3:18 pm

    They will have to use large scale demolitions, or gas / chem warfare; I don;t believe they or the USA have the expertise for going down these tunnels.

    [see army field manual on SUBTERRANEAN OPERATIONS

    ———-
    danger : smoke grenades may displace oxygen in closed passages.

    Consider that it may be easier to seal off access routes to underground passages and use smoke to flush out anyone hiding in them. Smoke displaces oxygen in enclosed areas like tunnels; even protective masks are useless in these situations.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-06-11/appj.htm

    • amigo
      amigo
      July 24, 2014, 3:54 pm

      “Smoke displaces oxygen in enclosed areas like tunnels; even protective masks are useless in these situations.” bilal.

      You are assuming Hamas has not prepared for this.

      Some tunnels may lead nowhere.Their entrances will be conveniently easy to find.

      Some may go along for a distance with camouflaged holes that drop twenty to thirty feet.Entrances also relatively easy to find.

      Could be slow going for those brave idfers.

    • lysias
      lysias
      July 24, 2014, 4:07 pm

      danger : smoke grenades may displace oxygen in closed passages.

      Ah, but are the tunnels closed? They might communicate with each other, and all have air hatches.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 6:08 pm

        It doesn’t take a very big gas or electric motor to pump lots of air.

      • amigo
        amigo
        July 24, 2014, 7:46 pm

        “It doesn’t take a very big gas or electric motor to pump lots of air”

        Or,

        see 1.06

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 24, 2014, 10:48 pm

        You could ventilate a tunnel with a bellows pump if you had to.

    • gamal
      gamal
      July 24, 2014, 5:57 pm

      Recall the storming of the Grand Mosque when Otaibi and his Nadji rebels declared their uncle the Mahdi and retired to the “catacombs”, after several abortive attempts to retake these rebel infested tunnels the SA authorities asked for French commando’s, firstly they converted to Islam, to observe local buy laws forbidding non-muslims access to Mecca, and then the commado’s filled the caves, in which the rebels were making their stand, with poison gas, those who fled into the open were sniped and the remainder including the leader surrendered and were executed, perhaps the French Jews fleeing the Paris pogroms have the same know how. Some people claim that the “French” were in fact Pakistani military. There is a very famous picture of the dusty Juhayman ibn Muhammad ibn Sayf al Otaibi, leader of the rebels, looking alert, defiant and a touch crest fallen prior to his execution. Perhaps the Saudi Army could lend a hand, though it is doubtful they learned anything, but Netanyahu could always ask, it couldn’t hurt and I am sure they would happily convert to Judaism for the duration of the operation, as reversion is so easy for us, and regression apparently.

  6. ivri
    ivri
    July 24, 2014, 3:22 pm

    You have to distinguish between a moral opinion – every person is entitled to that – and a realistic assessment of what goes on in real terms. My feeling is that you want to force reality look the way you want it to come out. Once the tunnels cum missiles saga is over and given the seriously severed relationship of Hamas with Egypt (so cannot redo it all) I cannot see how Hamas` strategy cannot come to an end. Either it follows the PA path and become a political entity in running Gaza or it will be replaced by the PA in that. The Gazans are not going to allow them another fantasy run at their expense – after all they dug these tunnels for decades, with huge costs and efforts, and they now go kaput in days.

    • annie
      annie
      July 24, 2014, 3:30 pm

      and they now go kaput in days.

      do you have a source for that aside from goi allegations? any photos of large weapons caches, that sort of stuff. photos of underground caves etc?

      • ivri
        ivri
        July 24, 2014, 4:53 pm

        I have nothing that you don`t have. It is just my reading of where things are going given what I see happening. In my view this was fantasy on the side of Hamas – trying to play big, to find a winning formula. But they have miscalculated in several ways. Firstly, they are fighting a very modern entity with what is essentially a pre-modern approach. Then they lost Egypt, which is critical to their future moves. Also they erstwhile allies, Iran and Hezbolalh, are busy elsewhere and revised strategies. Then, the continuous bloodshed and refugees on a massive scale in Syria (and now gain in Iraq) cannot but dwarf the Gaza scene. The European governments understood that and they now for the first time stand behind Israel as does the US. So my forecast is all about adding up all that – no confidential information that I have.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        July 24, 2014, 5:51 pm

        So in other words Ivri,

        You’re hoping that the fact Syria is worse will keep the heat off Israel.

        How desperate you sound. Israel are learning the hard way there is no military solution to the Hamas problem.

      • annie
        annie
        July 24, 2014, 6:10 pm

        I have nothing that you don`t have.

        iow, this is merely your speculation based on goi? yeah, um…doesn’t it make sense a gov like this that loves to blather their successes w/video would have something to show for these allegations aside from merely those cartoon graphics? anyway, i get it. that would be a no.

        In my view this was fantasy on the side of Hamas – trying to play big, to find a winning formula.

        well, the option being to roll over and die. their people are being genocided, so of course it’s a natural instinct to protect yourself. call it a fantasy if you will but trying to find a winning formula is what humans do.

        Firstly, they are fighting a very modern entity with what is essentially a pre-modern approach.

        so why couldn’t israel beat hezbollah?

        Also they erstwhile allies, Iran and Hezbolalh, are busy elsewhere

        hmm, who are you listening to that you think hezbollah/iran is not paying attention here? don’t be so sure. this could be the beginning of a regional war.

        The European governments understood that and they now for the first time stand behind Israel as does the US.

        really? i’m amazed. please tell us more about how the US stands behind israel. this is really startling information. and those euro govs..what about the people in those places. tell us more about those democratic governments who stand behind israel.

        anyway, amusing divert. i just wanted to know if you had any evidence israel had been able to ascertain where the tunnels are. and u have nothing.

        i guess we’ll know for sure when the rockets and missiles stop…as you say they now go kaput in days. but not kaput yet are they?

      • ivri
        ivri
        July 24, 2014, 6:44 pm

        @ Annie, my answers:
        The alternative to spending all the money on the tunnels and missiles was to spend it on civil projects. The “siege” was a result of the Hamas approach – in the beginning all was open and there were high hopes for cooperative development projects. Hamas killed them all.
        When the “winning formula” comes at the expense of everything else and turns out to be a fantasy then the political outcome is “change of horses”. I predict either Hamas will be abandoned by the Gazans or will become, like the PA in the West-Bank, a political entity.
        Israel didn`t finish Hezbollah because it was forced to accept a ceasefire that Hezbollah desperately demanded. Hamas is not doing that (because it understands what will follow – see below).
        We live in a world where governments matter so what Israel needs is that the governments of Europe will side with it – what the people think anyway nobody knows. Likewise with the Arab governments.
        The tunnels and missiles are not yet fully gone. Some are in the center of Gaza and undoing them cannot be done without a lot of people there killed. So will demand a more cautious and sophisticated approach and therefore also more time.

      • annie
        annie
        July 24, 2014, 8:10 pm

        The alternative to spending all the money on the tunnels and missiles was to spend it on civil projects.

        would you advise israel do the same. nix their military and invest in civil projects?

        The “siege” was a result of the Hamas approach – in the beginning all was open and there were high hopes for cooperative development projects.

        oh gag me with a spoon, the embargo was set up before hamas was even inaugurated. that’s what it was called before they called it the blockade. don’t try to peddle your revisionist history off on me.

        Israel didn`t finish Hezbollah because it was forced to accept a ceasefire that Hezbollah desperately demanded.

        ha ha ha ha ha

        – what the people think anyway nobody knows

        israel continually rates least popular country in the world. or haven’t you been paying attention?

        The tunnels and missiles are not yet fully gone.

        no shit sherlock. in fact, there has not been evidence of ONE major weapons cache even busted. israel doesn’t even know what quantity hamas has.

        Some are in the center of Gaza and undoing them cannot be done without a lot of people there killed.

        why don’t you scroll up and read what i wrote at the top of the page.

        So will demand a more cautious and sophisticated approach

        well, thus far there has been neither caution nor sophistication. so more multiplied by 0 still equals 0.

    • can of worms
      can of worms
      July 24, 2014, 3:59 pm

      Ivri, what would your real estate value be if israel got desegregated! And Ivri! how could you live if the Aravim moved in as tenants in your own building! in the same city! And what would happen to your kids-? …if they started going to the same public schools together with Aravim in their own classes! And who would do the construction work? And who would do the sanitation work, if Aravim had the same language education and jobs? I feel for you Ivri.
      The whole thing’s shocking, I totally understand your POV. I know it like the back of my own hand.

      • ivri
        ivri
        July 24, 2014, 4:56 pm

        @Can of warms
        I honestly don`t understand the point you are trying to make. Israel doesn`t rely on Arab work and if Arabs will get advanced in the way you say that will be a sure receipt for peace – so a good outcome not something to worry about.

      • can of worms
        can of worms
        July 24, 2014, 10:35 pm

        Oh, ok, “Israel doesn`t rely on Arab work” — in that case you’re not Israeli. Otherwise you wouldn’t be so ignorant.
        I’m talking about institutionalized segregation of life inside Israel Ivri.
        —Your “receipt” for Jewish dominance.
        I know, after all I come from the same place as you Ivri.

  7. amigo
    amigo
    July 24, 2014, 3:28 pm

    The best response to Israel,s criminal attempts to destroy the Unity Government is to strengthen it.

    Then those states that were willing to give it a chance will find it very uncomfortable supporting the zionist plans to destroy it.

    USA/EU/Russia/China et al.

  8. NoMoreIsrael
    NoMoreIsrael
    July 24, 2014, 3:29 pm

    I see an all-too predictable path for this.

    Israel will unilaterally announce a ceasefire for a brief period. The Palestinians, having all of their demands left unmet, will continue the resistance. Israel will respond “well–we gave them every opportunity.” Then the massacre begins again with heightened cruelty and potency.

    Israel certainly has the means to put down the resistance by basically levelling Gaza. Will anyone stop them from doing so? Frankly, I don’t see it. The recent UN charges of Israeli war crimes were answered by Tzipi Livni on her Facebook page: “Get Lost.” The recent bombing of the UN school was most likely a revenge attack on the UN for its charges of war crimes. These psychopaths are totally out of control. The fact that they are sitting on an arsenal of nuclear weapons ought to send shivers through every person on earth. They’re going to kill us all before they’re through.

    • Kay24
      Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 5:22 pm

      I agree I see the madness of Hitler in their actions. It is sheer lunacy to keep killing powerless women and children like we are seeing live on television.
      Arrogance and madness goes hand and hand.

      Regev is given much more airtime than others. He is spewing lies, calling Khamas terrorists killing their own people, and Blitzer does NOT interject and say, but you guys are the ones who have killed hundreds of civilians….easy pass for Regev.

      • lysias
        lysias
        July 24, 2014, 5:29 pm

        Mad or not, Hitler at least had the sense to keep his genocidal program a state secret, and, even so, most of the world joined together to defeat him.

        Can Israel get away with doing this sort of stuff very much out in the open?

      • just
        just
        July 24, 2014, 5:30 pm

        Apparently they have and can.

        It defies all decency and civilization.

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        July 24, 2014, 6:57 pm

        The recent voting at the UN might explain that one.

  9. seafoid
    seafoid
    July 24, 2014, 3:40 pm

    It makes sense that the Hezb would be passing on info to Hamas about how to operate against the IDF. For all the spin they have one significant weakness. They can’t tolerate dead soldiers. They absolutely can’t. They can dish it out but they cannot take it.

    And they have been running an occupation for 47 years and are quite sloppy when they underestimate the enemy, as they tend to.

    The other thing is their cruelty which means they always kill too many civilians. With smartphones in Gaza the Palestinians can get the images out and the bots are powerless on social media.

    They probably figured the world wasn’t going to buy more Zionist bullshit around the unity government.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/3c2dfafa-e99f-11e3-bbc1-00144feabdc0.html

    “Benjamin Netanyahu urged foreign governments not to recognise a Palestinian unity government backed by the militant Islamist group Hamas, saying that doing so would “strengthen terrorism”.

    And the only way the Palestinians can win is in the court of public opinion.

  10. NoMoreIsrael
    NoMoreIsrael
    July 24, 2014, 3:56 pm

    “And the only way the Palestinians can win is in the court of public opinion.”

    Events over the past decades ought to encourage us to seriously question this elemental assumption of the Palestinian movement.

    I don’t see much room any longer for education and consciousness raising at this point. It’s pretty much reached saturation. Those who are not Klan members or career racists understand that Palestinian children are being massacred and entire neighborhoods wiped out. Even the NY Times is now FILLED with images of the carnage and monumental suffering of Palestinians.

    Yes–the tide of public opinion has significantly turned, with many people—even a few former zionists—filled with contempt and revulsion for Israel. But this hasn’t budged the status quo. Further, Israel’s actions strongly suggest an utter indifference to world opinion. If anything, they WANT to inflame the opinion of the entire world against them, as it feeds their paranoia, hyper-nationalism and siege mentality. “The whole world is against us (because we’re Jews, naturally)”

    • Kay24
      Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 5:26 pm

      Strange isn’t it, how despite the massacre and brutality, Israel will seek to be the victim in all this?

    • michelle
      michelle
      July 24, 2014, 7:15 pm

      .
      alot of people have long ago turned from
      (mainstream) media this issue isn’t the only
      bias they exibit
      .
      sad but true;
      no news is better then thinly veiled lies
      .
      G-d Bless
      .

  11. lysias
    lysias
    July 24, 2014, 4:00 pm

    I’ve just been in Lebanon, and the Arab press says that Israeli intelligence is woefully lacking. That Israel doesn’t know where the weapons caches are, how many there are, what quality they are, or how to get to at them.

    That must mean Israel has not succeeded in infiltrating Hamas. That was just how Michael Collins’s IRA differed from earlier revolutionary Irish groups, that the British weren’t able to infiltrate it. No wonder Israel is so intent on destroying Hamas.

    Collins was able to defeat the British at the intelligence game because he was informed by Irish collaborators within the official (British-run) Irish government and security forces. I wonder if Hamas is getting any such help.

  12. Daniel Rich
    Daniel Rich
    July 24, 2014, 4:22 pm

    Senate Republicans and Democrats insisted that any viable cease-fire between Israel and Hamas militants must eliminate the threat posed by Hamas…

    Palestinian Terror Tunnels…

    Poor Israel…

    Swipe…

    That was my iPad…

    UC?

  13. just
    just
    July 24, 2014, 4:25 pm

    Thank you Annie. I’m glad you are out of harm’s way…

    This is a very good article. I am glad the Palestinians have ‘had enough’ of the legendary lies of Israel and the west. None of the western/eastern/northern/southern governments have ever come to the side of justice in P/I.

    The Palestinians have learned from history, and they ‘know’ their genocidal enemy and its myriad consorts. It is up to us– everyman– to force OUR governments to change.

  14. ckg
    ckg
    July 24, 2014, 4:39 pm

    I am reminded of the Cu Chi network of tunnels successfully used by the Viet Cong against a different–but with “shared values”–colonial power.

  15. bilal a
    bilal a
    July 24, 2014, 4:50 pm

    All of you are forgetting a major Israeli advantage over Hamas:

    Jackie Mason: Obama Has More Jews in His Cabinet Than Netanyahu Does
    http://www.ibtimes.com/jackie-mason-obama-has-more-jews-his-cabinet-netanyahu-does-385584

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 24, 2014, 6:16 pm

      “Jackie Mason: Obama Has More Jews in His Cabinet Than Netanyahu Does”

      Well then, ‘bilal a’ since you feel that way I guess I won’ bother to try and refute any of the “Jews run America” comments here. Apparently you are proud of it and consider it an advantage?

  16. marc b.
    marc b.
    July 24, 2014, 5:28 pm

    “Unless you physically conquer all of the Gaza Strip, which takes longer than a week … until the last day there will be firing of rockets.”

    that’s just delusional. the rocket fire would continue, and an internal occupation force will be fighting for its life.

  17. a blah chick
    a blah chick
    July 24, 2014, 5:48 pm

    People, people it looks like the WB is in revolt. PA has called for the Intifada 3 after thousands tried to march on Jerusalem. The old city is full of demostrators.

    Stay Tuned.

  18. ritzl
    ritzl
    July 24, 2014, 5:51 pm

    Great article, Annie. Thanks.

  19. Keith
    Keith
    July 24, 2014, 5:58 pm

    Let us not go overboard in comparing Hamas to Hezbollah. Hamas is much, much weaker militarily than Hezbollah, and is surrounded by Israel on one side and Egypt on the other, both hostile to Hamas and both massively supported by the US, also hostile to Hamas. It is difficult to imagine a more one-sided balance of forces. Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood are both under attack and I suspect that soon Hezbollah will be too, with ISIS (ISIL) coming from the north and Israel from the south. It is all part of the remaking of the Middle East and things are going to get worse before they get better, if they get better.

  20. crone
    crone
    July 24, 2014, 5:59 pm

    Frankly, I think all the “terror tunnel” talk, is Israeli propaganda… the little rocket damage Hamas’ does is not working for an excuse for Bibi to go in, so now, change to “it’s tunnels” ~ “an underground city”

    think about it… where would blockaded Hamas get the materials, the eqiopment, etc.

    it’s all Hamas can do to keep up w/ tunnels for food, etc. Tunnels that men can move through… I don’t believe it.

    Palestinians are turning on the soldiers, coming out in thousands. Bibi can’t talk about Hamas anymore… he MUST lift the blockade and address the human needs of Palestinians/

    • Rusty Pipes
      Rusty Pipes
      July 24, 2014, 9:35 pm

      Maybe not “all” of it is propaganda, but much of it may be. After the offensive on halamoun, Syria, Hezbollah fighters working with the IDF found that some of the tunnels that insurgents had used to escape through had some of the features that they had taught Hamas’ Al Qassam brigades (such as distinctive ways of booby traps). This discovery created some tension between Hezbollah leadership and Hamas for a while. So, Al Qassam has gained some tunnel technical know-how from Hezbollah.

      Further, some reports from last week claimed that Hamas used some of its tunnels for storage of rockets; once they started using the rockets from a particular tunnel, they proceded to use up that whole cache because Israel could tehn pinpoint and destroy that tunnel. I’m not sure how accurate that report was, but such a strategy could have been accomplished through some basic tunnels. And, of course, we know that southern Gaza has had abundant tunnels for smuggling goods.

      However, the claim that Hamas basically has an underground city of tunnels, which they have fortified with tons of cement as the rest of Gaza has remained unrepaired and neglected for several years, does sound like Israeli propaganda — an excuse to demonize Hamas, minimize the effects of its illegal siege and provide an excuse for a ground invasion to destroy more of Gaza’s infrastructure, test the IDF’s latest weapons’ systems and bolster Netanyahu’s standing among the increasingly right-wing Israeli public.

  21. michelle
    michelle
    July 24, 2014, 7:42 pm

    .
    the blind are seeing
    the deaf are hearing
    the mute are speaking
    .
    the tide may well be turning
    let us hope for true peace
    though ;
    ” We will never forget nor forgive”
    ,,,, sounds like the children have
    already been forgotten
    .
    children want love peace safety
    truth fairness family friends fun
    … they don’t want revenge
    .
    G-d Bless
    .

  22. amigo
    amigo
    July 24, 2014, 7:56 pm

    Will Israel use the uprising in the West Bank as an excuse to annex it under cover of what,s happening in Gaza.

    Will they put a uniform on Peres so he can tell the brave idfers to “Break their Bones”.

  23. concernedhuman
    concernedhuman
    July 24, 2014, 8:16 pm

    Some in the Israeli Defense Forces have expressed surprise at the scale and intensity of the resistance they have met and the extent of the tunnel network, dubbed by one Israeli official as “Lower Gaza.” Rather than prod the Israeli government towards a cease-fire, the resistance may make it more determined to degrade Hamas’ capabilities for a while longer. Sisi has no problem with that. But a deeper invasion into Gaza is fraught with peril, says Nathan Thrall. The Israelis, he notes, are just one kilometer inside Gaza and taking much heavier casualties than they did in 2008-09.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/24/world/meast/lister-gaza-ceasefire/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
    Idf is going crazy because of the resistance and is shooting civilians .
    The next time idf enters gaza will think hundred times before setting foot .

    • annie
      annie
      July 24, 2014, 8:21 pm

      Idf is going crazy because of the resistance and is shooting civilians .

      nah, I0f went crazy and shot many civilians during the 08/09 massacre and there were no battles w/hamas that time round as i recall. anywhichway they shoot civilians.

    • a blah chick
      a blah chick
      July 24, 2014, 8:22 pm

      “The next time idf enters gaza will think hundred times before setting foot .”

      The way things are going right now there might not be a next time!

    • Kay24
      Kay24
      July 24, 2014, 8:30 pm

      Sisi, as people claimed before the Egyptian elections, is in bed with the zios.
      He was a zio in Egyptian clothing. The poor Egyptians were hoodwinked.

      • biorabbi
        biorabbi
        July 24, 2014, 9:52 pm

        Hoodwinked maybe, but Sinai was having terrorists attacking Egyptian soldiers… one of the factors leading to Egyptian disgust with Morsi.

        It’s not easy being Egypt.

        On the one hand, death to the Jews.
        On the other, death to Hamas.
        Where’s the middle ground?

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        July 25, 2014, 1:14 am

        Hoodwinked maybe, but Sinai was having terrorists attacking Egyptian soldiers… one of the factors leading to Egyptian disgust with Morsi.

        Yes, there is great deal of suspicious surrounding those attacks, seeing as the culprits were never identified.

      • piotr
        piotr
        July 24, 2014, 10:02 pm

        Joseph Massad had a good analysis of the situation in Egypt. Perhaps a bit too Marxist, “economic determinism”, but so far, everything checks out. There are two basic political forces in Egypt: crony capitalists who make money through privileges bestowed by the state, many still in the military and other uniformed services, other former servicemen and family members, plus crooks who were never in uniform. Currently, they are “secular fascists”, although this is really not secularism but “state Islamism”. State Islamism is to Islamism what crony capitalism is to capitalism, the state approves Muslim (and Christian?) hierarchies, concedes “leading role of Islam” as interpreted by their stooges.

        On the other side are non-state privileged capitalists, and professionals who form the core of support of Muslim Brotherhood. Now thoroughly outlawed, and the properties of Brotherhood supporters are confiscated and given for management to supporters of the regime. The process of making it work is now the chief pre-occupation of the regime (or perhaps just an important and difficult task).

        Salafists are now pro-regime with some reservations, which fits Massad’s framework. They are funded by Saudis and Emiratis who clearly are as crony capitalists and supporters of state-controlled Islamism. In the Kingdom and Emirates, the Brotherhood is outlawed as a kind of republican (anti-monarchy) tendency. Similarly, the opposition in Jordan, while legal, seems mostly Brotherhood. Qatar supports the Brotherhood, presumably because they do not want to be simply sheep following the Saudis.

        So for purely internal reasons, the fascist regime in Egypt loathes Hamas. As the fascism in Egypt got rejuvenated, with a personality cult that actually works (quite a few Egyptians seem to take it seriously), it bashes Brotherhood and Hamas with vigor that we did not see under Mubarak.

        Egypt is a broken society, with one half hating the other half. It would take some analysis and extra information to figure why Sisi is as popular as he is. Conformism? Appreciation of what fascism has to offer? Well informed fear of the Brotherhood, or manipulation?

      • gamal
        gamal
        July 24, 2014, 10:12 pm

        “(and Christian?)”

        the Awlad Onsi Sawaris?

        but as to the MB one group you leave out are the rank and file particularly the youth and workers are in conflict with all those you mention and the fringe elements bedou and others are fighting a hot war, killing many soldiers.

        “Sisi is as popular as he is.” fear of the MB is eclipsed by the terror of the state apparatus that the junta can deploy, as a result loving Sisi publicly and ostentatiously is common sense.

        Egyptian society was fractured intentionally to ensure that the masses fight each other and leave the regime to save the nation from itself and for its masters in Waashington and Riyadh.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        July 24, 2014, 10:57 pm

        Egyptian society was fractured intentionally to ensure that the masses fight each other and leave the regime to save the nation from itself and for its masters in Waashington and Riyadh.

        Yes, the counter revolutionary coup has effectively given Egypt a collective lobotomy. During Mubarak and Morsi, we saw huge pro Palestinian demonstrations in the streets. Under El Sisi, they are a cowardly nation of gimps. A spectacular result for Israel and Saudi Arabia.

        It takes great skill to transform a society who in 2011 were chanting for the liberation of Jerusalem into a degenerate society that is completely submissive to the dictatorship and utterly feckless and disinterest in the plight of Gaza. They’re to busy eating their own.

        What a disgrace!!

      • adele
        adele
        July 24, 2014, 10:27 pm

        Piotr, many thanks for sharing that overview.

  24. a blah chick
    a blah chick
    July 24, 2014, 8:20 pm

    The police in Jerusalem had forbidden anyone from getting to Temple Mount but I just saw a photograph on Twitter of a demonstrator with a confiscated police shield there. Looks like the police do not have complete control of the situation.

    Looks like the revolution will be televised.

  25. a blah chick
    a blah chick
    July 24, 2014, 8:36 pm

    There’s video of the Qalandiya checkpoint and it looks like its on fire. Sweet baby Jesus, let this be the end of that atrocious regime.

  26. mijj
    mijj
    July 24, 2014, 9:33 pm

    until Zionists renounce Zionism and convert to Judaism, there will be no human solution.

  27. biorabbi
    biorabbi
    July 24, 2014, 9:50 pm

    The Egyptians actually made Secretary Kerry go through a hand-wand security check(on Egyptian TV no less)immediately before meeting General Sisi.

    This sends a loud message to me that Sisi-Egypt will not facilitate a cease fire, for they have no intention to allow crossing over the Egypt-Gaza border in any meaningful manner. The second message is [email protected] off Obama.

    I didn’t realize the hatred of Sisi and the military against Obama and the US until now.

    The Turks have no leverage over Israel(or relations of any type).

    I do not see a cease fire any time soon. Not to mention Hamas and Israel don’t want one.

  28. Walid
    Walid
    July 25, 2014, 3:41 am

    Surprising news about the new ISIS Caliph: he was made in the USA, the UK and of course, Israel. And Mahane gets offended when I say that ISIS is Israel’s pal. Surprising because the news was released in a very pro-US Bahrain publication:

    “… Baghdadi ‘Mossad trained’
    Posted on » Tuesday, July 15, 2014

    http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=381153

    WASHINGTON: The former employee at US National Security Agency (NSA), Edward Snowden, has revealed that the British and American intelligence and the Mossad worked together to create the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

    Snowden said intelligence services of three countries created a terrorist organisation that is able to attract all extremists of the world to one place, using a strategy called “the hornet’s nest”.

    NSA documents refer to recent implementation of the hornet’s nest to protect the Zionist entity by creating religious and Islamic slogans.

    According to documents released by Snowden, “The only solution for the protection of the Jewish state “is to create an enemy near its borders”.

    Leaks revealed that ISIS leader and cleric Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi took intensive military training for a whole year in the hands of Mossad, besides courses in theology and the art of speech..”

    • wes
      wes
      July 25, 2014, 4:05 am

      Money in the bank,shells in the tank

    • seafoid
      seafoid
      July 25, 2014, 4:37 am

      Walid

      The sha’ab al Amriki are waking up. Dick and Jane are coming though, at long last. Ma sha allah

      http://www.gallup.com/poll/174110/americans-reaction-middle-east-situation-similar-past.aspx

      In the latest Gallup poll, by a 26-point margin , Americans under 30 say Israel’s operation in Gaza is “unjustified.”

      Overall Israel justified 42% not justified 39%
      Only Republicans back them – not Democrats, the young, or women.

      This is seismic. There is no going back to the status quo .

      • Walid
        Walid
        July 25, 2014, 6:25 am

        It’s confusing, seafood, I would have thought that Palestinians would be more popular among Democrats. Why the Republican dislike of Israel?

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        July 25, 2014, 7:32 am

        The Republicans are saying Israel is justified. Prolly Fox/Adelson related.

        Israel could become a wedge issue in the fall elections. Women and minorities won Obama his second term. Dems would get a majority the way things are going. The ultimate Zionist nightmare.

      • adele
        adele
        July 25, 2014, 11:21 am

        Beautiful song Seafoid. I found a translation of the Arabic lyrics….

        Ahmed Qabour – I’m Calling You

        I’m calling you
        I kiss the ground beneath your feet
        And say, “I will redeem you” (or “I’d die for you”)

        I dedicated to you the light of my eyes
        And I give you the warmth of my heart
        And the tragedy that I live is that my fate is the same of yours

        I have not become worthless in my country
        Nor have I shrunk in fear
        I stood in the face of my oppressors
        A naked, barefoot orphan

        I’ve carried my blood on my hands and never half-masted my flags
        And I’ve preserved the green grass on the graves of my ancestors

        http://www.arabicmusictranslation.com/2009/09/ahmed-qabour-im-calling-you-ounadikom.html

    • Keith
      Keith
      July 25, 2014, 7:55 pm

      WALID- “The former employee at US National Security Agency (NSA), Edward Snowden, has revealed that the British and American intelligence and the Mossad worked together to create the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).”

      Jeez, I’m glad you brought this up. And their “victories” in Iraq consisted of Iraqi troops ordered to abandon their weapons and flee. A way to quickly and surreptitiously supply ISIS with a lot of US weapons, including tanks? They apparently have already used these tanks raising the question of who provided the tank training? Three guesses. Now ISIS is ISIL and claims the northern part of Lebanon as part of the Caliphate. A US/Israel created ISIL invading Lebanon from the north to fight Hezbollah? ISIL as a pretext for Israel to maintain “defensive” occupation of the Jordan valley? I don’t know why some folks are claiming a big Hamas victory, things look grim to me.

  29. Taxi
    Taxi
    July 25, 2014, 3:54 am

    Yes, annie is right. Since the 2nd-3rd day of battles onwards, the independent Arab media (yes there is such a thing) has been commenting on israel’s lack of intelligence data on the battlefield. All the idf direct strikes against Hamas have been at Hamas rocket launch sites AFTER rockets have launched – hence isreal’s current frustration and violent revenge against the unarmed Gaza population: an idf necessity to appease the racist zionist jew’s public baying for “extermination” of Arabs. This wanton attempt at “extermination”, we can clearly see is backfiring globally on israel, including in the USA – read Aipac’s cancellation of its “We Stand With Israel” NY parade booked for this Saturday – heck even Madonna has become an overnight “antisemite” for tweeting against the israeli TARGETED bombing of Gaza children.

    Hamas has surprised everyone with its new ‘improved’ battle preparedness AND battle strategy. By now, it is no secret that Hamas has been emulating Hizbollah on the battlefront, word for word, page by page and chapter by chapter. I have heard, through military analysts on independent Arab media, that Hamas has been arming itself through two ways: what is known as the ‘Green Bag’ method, and also through hizbollah smuggling bulks of armaments and hizbollah TRAINERS into Gaza. All this Hizbollah-Hamas rigorous co-activity has been going on for a few years, peaking last year when ‘supposedly’ Hizbollah was on bad terms with Hamas over their Syria stance. So really Hamas and Hizbollah fooled the world into thinking they have un-friended each other when all the while Hizbollah was actually fortifying Hamas’s military needs (heh heh heh). Quick note here on the ‘Green Bag’ method: bribing security personnel on the Rafah crossing with bags stuffed with ‘green’ hundred dollar bills: $20.000 a pop for turning a blind eye to a truck here and a truck there coming into Gaza – mindful here that the average yearly income for these border security soldiers is $9,000. You gotta laugh here at israel’s sheer incompetence: daily, nay minute by minute reconnaissance of every inch of Gaza by air and by sea plus cellphone monitoring and NEVER did israel even notice the Hizbollah trainers were infiltrating into Gaza or the mass of hizbollah weapons that have been smuggled into Gaza since the last attack on Gaza in 2012. This israeli blindness is also greatly due to israel’s lack of human intelligence on to the Gaza ground – thanks to Hamas’ vigorous ‘spring-cleaning’ of Gaza from traitors and informants especially in the past two years. This is another Hizbollah strategy: allow ZERO enemy intelligence gathering.

    Strategically speaking, Hizbollah taught Hamas to do what they did back in 2000 and in 2006: concentrate on killing as many idf soldiers as fast as possible, so as to create low moral in israeli society which translates into eventual unilateral idf withdrawal from the battlefield – read DEFEAT of idf. The idea is to get the israeli public to pull the trigger on their own leader, read Olmert’s fall in 2006. The book ‘The Art of War’ recommends the smaller warrior use their opponent’s weight against them, and this is exactly the strategy taken up currently by the Palestinian Resistance as a whole, learned from Hizbollah. Hizbollah has passed on its knowledge of how to destroy markavas, how to effectively use tunnels for ambushes and how to keep ALL their military plans ABSOLUTELY SECRET.

    Nassrallah has already said that “It is forbidden for Gaza to fall”. Gaza is extremely important for the regional Axis of Resistance: if they’re gonna defeat the zionists and expel zionism from the middle east, they absolutely need a foothold in the Holy Land – Abbas is not exactly going to allow Hizbollah to operate freely in the West Bank, so Gaza is their ONLY treasured foothold that they will staunchly protect even if it means Hizbollah joining the current battlefield. On a side but related note here: Iran yesterday publicly announced its readiness to supply the West Bank with arms – something that the military wing of Fatah is surely smiling at.

    The Hizbollah-Hamas military strategy is working not just on the battlefield. International investors seeing with their own eyes the incompetence of the over-supplied idf: the idf’s inability to STOP THE HAMAS ROCKETS is indeed giving investors cold feet and giving the israeli economy a kick in the teeth. The israelis are now learning that attacking Palestinians not only puts fear in their little black zionist hearts, but it also unequivocally damages their economy. The ‘start-up’ nation quickly becomes the ‘shut-down’ nation when Palestinian rockets start falling on tel aviv.

    All israel can do in the face of such surprising Palestinian determination and smarts is to punish Gaza civilians – committing war crime after war crime in Gaza. But the idf’s despicable vindictive cowardice is back-firing against them too – especially with regards to American support: the current ‘crisis of zionism’ inside the American jewish community and the negative unintended consequences of Op ‘Protective Edge’ on the zionist PR machine are clear indicators of the failure of israel’s current stupid and blind strategy.

    Now, mondo folk: grab yourselves an empty pot, add no intelligence data, add idf targeting of Gaza civilians especially children, add Social Media outrage trumping zionist mainstream media in USA – now cook together for a couple more weeks and presto: you will have another bitter humiliation of the idf by the Axis of Resistance.

    Hamas is also employing Hizbollah tactics on the battlefield, using tunnels to ambush markavas from the BACK!!!!! A known Hizbollah signature.

    Note here that despite all the hits that Gaza has taken for some 18 days, Hamas is not running to anyone to help them establish a quick cease-fire. Only israel is. Hamas has enough fire-power to carry on picking israeli soldiers on the battlefield – they’re killing them in GROUPS, not just sniping single soldiers here and there. BTW the number of idf dead is larger than what the idf is admitting – for obvious reasons.

    The issue of Gaza Gas is also profoundly relevant in this heinous operation against the people of Gaza. Israel wants the Gas and is falsely claiming that it will not permit Gaza to enjoy the benefits of their gas wells, citing that Hamas would use funds to buy bigger rockets. This is a joke because Hamas doesn’t need Gaza Gas to ‘buy’ anything it needs. It has enough committed entities helping it restock already – all donated.

    The rockets will not stop, the tunnels will not be located ‘before’ launch – and soon enough the paranoid isreali public will pull the trigger on Netanyahu and his failed leadership.

    The Palestinian Resistance is not alone. There are more surprises to come. All thanks to the brave Palestinian fighters and to their use of Hizbollah’s winning formula.

    Today is Quds Day (Jerusalem day), a day when the Axis of Resistance countries show their support for the Palestinian cause. Nassrallah is slated to give a speech tonight. For English speakers, try catching it on Press TV – they usually transmit it live with English translation (the speech will be at 5pm Lebanon time: morning in USA and afternoon time for europe).
    http://www.presstv.com/live/

    Israelis especially should watch this speech so they can bypass the numbing lies they’re being fed by their government regarding the real direction this war is heading.

    BTW, the Palestinian Resistance is not depending on Sisi for anything either. Why would they when they have Hizbollah as silent partner for now, and active partner if israel overplays its hand in its current genocidal attacks on Palestinians.

    The rockets will not stop till liberation. The Palestinians, including Abbas and Fatah are all now united on this. Full stop. Israel needs to understand that they’ve left the Palestinians only two options: die slow under occupation, or die fast resisting.

    Clearly, the later choice is the more dignified one that the Palestinians have chosen: Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death.

    Looks like Palestine has more in common with American ideas of freedom than the zionist media will have us believe.

    • Inanna
      Inanna
      July 25, 2014, 7:45 am

      Thanks Taxi, excellent summary. What I’ve been hearing is that the cooperation between Hamas and Hezbollah goes back quite a few years as the technical level. Hamas political leadership and the Qassam Brigades have sometimes been at odds about the relationship with Hezbollah after the Arab people started rising up. Mishaal and Haniyeh were seduced by Gulf money but the military resistance (including Islamic Jihad and others) knew where the help and support was coming from. Even now, Qatar and Saudi Arabia are trying to buy off the politicians but the military wing is calling the shots now. Hamas leaders are struggling to catch up, as are the collaborators in the West Bank who will either fall into line with the people or be overthrown.

      Edited to add I thought the Resistance would put a good showing but not this good. Gaza is difficult to defend but what they’ve done is an achievement. And where is ISIS?

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        July 25, 2014, 8:12 am

        Inanna,

        What I’ve been hearing is that the cooperation between Hamas and Hezbollah goes back quite a few years as the technical level.

        When Hamas closed it’s Damascus office during the height of the Syria crisis, Hizbollah took the following view and made it known in secret to Islmanic Jihad, who in turn relayed it to Hamas. Hizbollah informed the Palestinian resistance that they disagreed with their Syria stand but that this disagreement is merely political and would not EVER effect Hizbollah’s support for Palestinian resistance against zionism. Thus on a ‘resistance’ level, Hamas was assured of Hizbollah’s brotherhood and in fact opened wider communication and cooperation channels with them in the past two years.

        Cool-headed Hizbollah, always keeping its eyes on the prize and not getting distracted by regional bitch-outs for even a second.

        Mishaal and Haniyeh were seduced by Gulf money but the military resistance (including Islamic Jihad and others) knew where the help and support was coming from.

        To correct you here in a small but important measure: Islamic Jihad has never been bought by Gulfie money. In fact, Islamic Jihad was the first Hizbollah student in Gaza, following their warfare methodology and Resistance philosophies way before Hamas ever did.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        July 25, 2014, 7:15 pm

        Cool-headed Hizbollah, always keeping its eyes on the prize and not getting distracted by regional bitch-outs for even a second.

        If only the rest of the Arab world was that rational and sensible. Imagine what the place would look like today?

      • PeterAgur
        PeterAgur
        July 25, 2014, 8:19 pm

        Like Syria, obviously

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        July 25, 2014, 11:28 pm

        No. If the rest of the Arab world were as sensible as Hezbollah, Syria would be nothing like it is today

      • Inanna
        Inanna
        July 25, 2014, 10:30 pm

        To clarify Taxi, I meant that while the political leadership of Hamas was being swayed bu Gulf money, the resistance never was.

    • annie
      annie
      July 25, 2014, 8:03 am

      grrrreat comment taxi.

      On a side but related note here: Iran yesterday publicly announced its readiness to supply the West Bank with arms

      wow, i had not heard that. do you have any links?

      All the idf direct strikes against Hamas have been at Hamas rocket launch sites AFTER rockets have launched – hence isreal’s current frustration

      israel is up a creek w/ zilch intel

    • just
      just
      July 25, 2014, 8:17 am

      Thanks for sharing Taxi– great stuff.

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        July 25, 2014, 8:38 am

        Au contraire, just: thank YOU for your unrelenting zest for justice.

    • Walid
      Walid
      July 25, 2014, 9:23 am

      Great summary, Taxi. Are you as hopeful as I am that that El Cid is going to drop a big announcement about Gaza this afternoon?

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        July 25, 2014, 9:32 am

        Walid,

        I have no doubt that Gaza will be the main dish of his speech. It IS Al Quds day, after all.

        Hey the speech starts in less than half an hour: 5pm Lebanon time.

  30. wes
    wes
    July 25, 2014, 4:00 am

    Annie the blockade works both ways

    The lifting of the blockade will allow israel to enter gaza,to track down those foreign spy services operating out of gaza.
    The blockade is in place to protect the command centres below ground.as long as there are hostilities hamas can control the security.eventually it will come out what is underground because what israel has found has surprised some people.
    urban warfare in this century will move underground unfortunately there is no place for civilians in those spaces.

    • Inanna
      Inanna
      July 25, 2014, 7:48 am

      Wes, the Gazans would be mad to agree to the movement of the Israeli military among them. And if Hezbollah’s enemies in Lebanon have not been able to uncover Hezbollah’s secret sites why would the Israeli army have better luck in Gaza?

      • wes
        wes
        July 25, 2014, 8:39 am

        http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130222-scratch-and-sniff-mine-detectors

        inanna there are no secret sites.anywhere in the world.genetically engineered rodents now capture data on underground locations and send the infomation back to be analysed.they can be trained to follow the scent of munitions in the hope of being rewarded with food.in an area like gaza it is easy to flood it with rodents that can escape detection

      • Inanna
        Inanna
        July 25, 2014, 10:33 pm

        then pray tell me how Hezbollah and Hamas have managed to keep their weapons stockpiles secret? And see Walid’s comment below for how the resistance dealt a massive blow to Israeli intelligence by massively reducing collaboration with the Israelis such that instead of bombing Gaza from the outside, this time they’ve had to go into Gaza themselves to try to physically find the weaponry.

      • Walid
        Walid
        July 25, 2014, 9:18 am

        Inanna, there’s no rocket science to Israeli intelligence, it’s comprised of 2 main elements, which are sex and collaborators. It’s as good and as efficient as much as Israel’s targeted victims of their spying can’t keep it in their pants and as much of a collaborator network that can be set up.

        When Oslo was signed, there was something or other about Palestinians granting immunity to tens of dozens of Palestinian collaborators that had been on Israel’s payroll, so as you could see from the current bombing campaign of civilian targets for lack of military ones, Hamas appears to have done a good job of weeding out the spies in its ranks. I read or heard somewhere that this was the first and most important lesson given to them by Hizbullah.

        Last year, Hamas did another sweep and another major spring cleanup of collaborators in its midst and this has surely prevented Israeli from reaching its arms caches.

        From the Guardian, last year:

        “Hamas promises amnesty to Palestinian collaborators spying for Israel
        Islamist group says any informers who hand themselves in to authorities by 11 April will not be interrogated or imprisoned

        Phoebe Greenwood in Tel Aviv and Hazem Balousha in Gaza City
        theguardian.com, Wednesday 13 March 2013 18.14 GMT

        Hamas has launched a campaign to convince Palestinians who collaborate with Israel to turn themselves in, offering promises of impunity and financial rewards.

        The Islamist group claims to have obtained a list of Palestinian informers in Gaza, which it has run since 2007. The territory’s interior ministry held a press conference in Gaza City to announce that anyone on this list of collaborators who hands themselves in to the authorities by 11 April will not be interrogated or imprisoned. It also offered a monthly salary to the informer’s families.

        Muhammed Lafi, an official with the internal security service, told reporters: “This campaign against collaborators isn’t purely a security campaign, as it also has a social element. We do not discriminate between them according to their political affiliation, and we will provide them with information to make sure they can make right their mistakes and thus protect resistance fighters.”

        While this is not the first time Hamas has offered amnesty in return for information from Israeli informers, this is its largest-scale campaign to date.

        … The exact number is impossible to determine, but rights groups estimate there are hundreds of Palestinians who have been coerced or have volunteered to spy for Israel from Gaza. Hamas has issued more than 30 death sentences to suspected spies since it took over the Gaza Strip in 2007.”

        Full article:

        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/13/hamas-amnesty-palestinian-spying-israel

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        July 25, 2014, 7:18 pm

        Hamas has launched a campaign to convince Palestinians who collaborate with Israel to turn themselves in, offering promises of impunity and financial rewards.

        Now that is a brilliant strategy. Win the loyalty of collaborators on two fronts and also project an image of being reasonable and compassionate.

  31. Walid
    Walid
    July 25, 2014, 4:09 am
    • Walid
      Walid
      July 25, 2014, 7:03 am

      Military censor has allowed Israeli press to publish last night’s death in Gaza of an army reservist. Who said they didn’t have freedom of the press?

  32. Taxi
    Taxi
    July 25, 2014, 4:25 am
  33. Taxi
    Taxi
    July 25, 2014, 4:29 am
    • seafoid
      seafoid
      July 25, 2014, 7:39 am

      Jon snow of channel 4 in Gaza – is this a war on children ?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z4TvDbffI0&feature=youtu.be

      Interview with Yigal Mouthpiece who says Hamas bombed the school

      http://www.channel4.com/news/israel-threatens-to-escalate-gaza-offensive-hamas-video

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        July 25, 2014, 9:01 am

        The scenes are heartbreaking, as these are innocent angels, who have nothing to do with the damn war, and have no choice. We are seeing the work of Israel’s human animals, more like demons, really.

        Jon Snow always comes through. One of the only few UNBIASED journalist, who can grill Regev with no fear, and give us the human suffering and despair, in a very matter of fact way. The viewer can see that he is not worried about zionist backlash for what he is saying.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius
        Maximus Decimus Meridius
        July 25, 2014, 5:36 pm

        Jon Snow is a legend. BTW he has attended fundraising dinners for the charity Medical Aid for Palestinians, MAP. This isn’t a political organisation, but it shows that Snow definitely has his heart in the right place when it comes to Palestinians, and everything else. The rest of the C4 News crew – such as Jonathan Miller and Alex Thompson – are also outstanding.

        http://www.map-uk.org/

        I’m sure I’ve posted this before, but can’t resist doing so again as it’s a real classic. The part at around 4 min in, when Snow tells Regev that anything he says could be used in a War Crimes investigation, is a classic. Just look at Regev’s normally smug face. Love the subtitles.

      • justicewillprevail
        justicewillprevail
        July 25, 2014, 6:51 pm

        Ha ha, that is hilarious. Regev is so odious, such a lickspittle, a ventriloquist’s dummy for the mafia. It is funny to see him unable to counter a few straightforward questions, try to blame everybody in sight and make utterly ridiculous allegations. Like a child caught lying, he doubles up on his lies and starts raising his voice with increasing hysteria, then tries to intimidate the questioner. Like a robot where the programming has gone wrong and can’t cope, you expect his head to start spinning, before exploding and exposing the wires and blown fuses. Priceless.

      • Walid
        Walid
        July 25, 2014, 9:03 am

        Jon Snow is a fascinating journalist. That Yigal guy looks like a clone of all Israeli spokespersons with their sad eyes and phony sorry look on their faces.

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        July 25, 2014, 11:25 am

        What a repulsive liar.

  34. Walid
    Walid
    July 25, 2014, 10:34 am

    Nasrallah in person for Yom al-Quds speech that just started.

    • Taxi
      Taxi
      July 25, 2014, 10:36 am

      Watching it right now.

      …. And immediately he launches into support for Gaza.

      • just
        just
        July 25, 2014, 10:37 am

        good news…

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        July 25, 2014, 10:41 am

        You can watch it live here just:
        http://www.presstv.com/live.html

        Otherwise look for it at presstv video archives.

      • just
        just
        July 25, 2014, 11:13 am

        Many thanks!

  35. just
    just
    July 25, 2014, 11:27 am

    Yeah!

    Nasrallah calls for complete unity with Gaza– no room for disagreements of any source.

    • Taxi
      Taxi
      July 25, 2014, 11:34 am

      We can safely say that there’s ‘no daylight’ between the Palestinian and the Lebanese Resistance.

      Nasrallah’s whole speech was dedicated to Gaza and the courageous Palestinian resistance.

      Hope Gaza was listening.

      Hope the israeli child-killer army was listening too.

      • just
        just
        July 25, 2014, 12:02 pm

        That’s what I heard. I am quite sure that everyone in the region was listening…it might well be only the masses in the ‘west’ that do not.

      • Sumud
        Sumud
        July 26, 2014, 2:06 am

        Hey Taxi are you a fan of Brandon Flowers?

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        July 26, 2014, 2:23 am

        Brandon Flowers isn’t even on my radar.

      • Sumud
        Sumud
        July 26, 2014, 12:02 pm

        Weird question I know – I thought I might be following you on twitter & that person’s bio says they like him.

      • Taxi
        Taxi
        July 26, 2014, 1:09 pm

        LOL, Sumud! I’m sure there are at least a hundred people on twitter called Taxi – but, ce n’est pas moi.

  36. Walid
    Walid
    July 25, 2014, 11:34 am

    What he dropped at the end of his talk was a promise that Hizbullah will stand with the resistance in Gaza as full partners in the struggle as a victory for the resistance there is a victory for Hizbullah and will step in in whatever ways it feels it can be of help. In short he said that the resistance in Gaza is winning.

    • just
      just
      July 25, 2014, 11:36 am

      I thought he did promise help…

      I liked very much that he rebuked some Arab leaders, etc……

    • Walid
      Walid
      July 25, 2014, 11:47 am

      He berated Arab leaders that he said were surely phoning Netanyahu non-stop to eliminate the Gaza resistance in the same way they were phoning Olmert to finish off Hizbullah back in 2006. He said these Arabs should be ashamed to use their satellites to broadcast messages endorsing the Zionist killing of children in Gaza. Nasrallah said these monarchies have mortgaged their thrones for the welfare of the Zionists. He reminded how Benny Gantz had declared on taking over as Chief of Staff that Israel could now defeat Hizbullah in 24 hours and Gaza in 12 hours and how after 18 days, Israel is still not succeeding and that’s why it’s taking out its frustration on the children of Gaza.

      After the lesson learned in Lebanon, Israel has now set a very low objective in Gaza which is to take out the tunnels, which it can walk away from without much embarrassment.

      Nasrallah said that what we are seeing in Gaza today is a repeat of 2006 and the war on Lebanon. In Lebanon, the excuse was the 2 captured soldiers and in Gaza, it was the 3 teenagers on which Israel launched a war without knowing who was behind the abduction. At least in Lebanon, it was known who had taken the 2 soldiers. He found it odd that Israel isn’t at all talking about the captured soldier anymore.

      He was apprehensive about ISIS destroying churches and mosques that could lead to the Zionists destroying the al-Aqsa.

      • just
        just
        July 25, 2014, 11:53 am

        The berating of Arab leaders was powerful. Thanks to Taxi, I was able to watch a good bit of his speech.

        I thought it very, very good and much needed.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        July 25, 2014, 7:21 pm

        He berated Arab leaders that he said were surely phoning Netanyahu non-stop to eliminate the Gaza resistance in the same way they were phoning Olmert to finish off Hizbullah back in 2006.

        I could not agree more. These self serving parasites need to be removed, including Abbas. Expose them for what they are and encourage the Arab people to rise up against them.

        Nasrallah said these monarchies have mortgaged their thrones for the welfare of the Zionists.

        Absolutely, including Cairo.

      • Walid
        Walid
        July 26, 2014, 12:46 am

        Shingo, in the ongoing conflict between the full Wahhabi Salafists and the mild Wahhabi Brothers, Gaza is being made to pay. It has become obvious that there is some bond between the ultra-Wahhabi ISIS and Egypt, Israel and the Gulf states excluding the milder Wahhabi Qatar. Al-Jazeera TV that is in full pro-Gaza campaign mode is running at cross-purposes with the rest of the Gulf and it’s only a matter of time before Qatar gets punished for it again as what happened last string when all the Gulf states pulled their ambassadors from Doha because of its backing of Morsi. None had complained when Al-Jazeera dutifully campaigned against Zine al Abiddine, Gaddafi, Mubarak and Assad but when it continued backing Morsi and the Brotherhood, it fell from grace and now it’s backing the Brothers in Gaza is bound to get it into more trouble with the rest of the Gulf..

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        July 26, 2014, 1:30 am

        Al-Jazeera TV that is in full pro-Gaza campaign mode is running at cross-purposes with the rest of the Gulf and it’s only a matter of time before Qatar gets punished for it

        Punished how exactly Walid? I know that Saudi Arabia pushed them aside in Egypt, but what did they do to actually punish Qatar?

        And isn’t it ironic how El Sis conned the Egyptians into thinking he was getting rid of the Islamists from Egypt, but in fact, got into bed with the worst of them? We already know that the Saudis are the scum of the earth, but what a pathetic rabble Egypt has become.

      • Walid
        Walid
        July 26, 2014, 7:10 am

        The punishment consisted of being put in the doghouse for a month. Saudia, that all gulf states are under its influence recalled its ambassador from Doha and Bahrain and the UAE immediately did likewise although Kuwait and Oman also agreed with Saudia’s move, did not go as far as pulling their ambassadors. Inter-Gulf commercial and other dealings were put in jeopardy and there was talk of an impending thread to blockade shipments to Qatar that got everyone there nervous for a while. This was done under the pretense that Qatar was not abiding by GCC security arrangements and was by its actions putting the security of all Gulf states at risk.

        In plain English, al-Jazeera, which is 100% owned by the State of Qatar and staffed almost fully by Brotherhood members, was still backing Morsi and the Brothers in Egypt and thereby pissing off al-Sisi and his Gulf sponsors that are avidly anti-Brotherhood and was not responding to the Gulf countries’ request to lay off Egypt.

        It seems that after a month, things were finally worked out between Qatar and those boycotting it and Qatar resolved to show its goodwill (as crazy as it sounds), to open (still hasn’t) a second all-news satellite channel that would be anti-Brotherhood out of London devoted to counter and compete with its own Al-Jazeera’s pro-Brotherhood station. In other words, Saudia is the big boss and nobody should forget it.

        http://www.aawsat.net/2014/03/article55329729

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