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Israeli police and media collude to marginalize coverage of Muhammad Abu Khudair’s murder

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Front page, screenshot by Noam Livne

Front page, screenshot by Noam Livne

Noam Livne posted the above image on his Facebook page. What does it show?

In response to growing pressure, the Israeli police has announced that the suspects in the case of Muhammad Abu Khudair’s murder are “extremist Jews”. At the same time, they have played a dirty PR trick by holding a simultaneous press conference, announcing that the murder of a young Jewish Israeli woman, Shelly Dadon, two months ago near the northern city of Afula, has also been solved. According to the police, that murder was committed by a Palestinian citizen of Israel, but it’s not even clear whether the reason was nationalist. The police only say it *may* have been the case.

Why is this a dirty trick? Because of the linkage. The police arrested the suspect in the case of Shelly Dadon’s murder on June 16. They do not even know for sure whether it was an act of terror. But the suspect is Palestinian, so why not use it to marginalize the horrific, nationalist murder of a Palestinian youth by Jewish terrorists. (We know enough, and the Israeli police have provided sufficient info, to assert that Muhammad Abu Khudair’s murder was indeed committed by politically motivated Israeli Jews). 

It should be well known that when Israeli Jewish citizens kill Palestinians, parts of the public and the establishment tend to downplay any nationalist element and present the act as a purely individual criminal case, as well as emphasizing any insanity claim the defendant may advance. However, when it comes to crimes committed by Palestinians against Israeli Jews, it is assumed by default that it was an act of terror. 

Israel’s leading news portal, YNET, has swallowed the bait and published the following self-explanatory front page. This is a good example of collaboration between the Israeli authorities and the mainstream media to marginalize Israeli violence against Palestinians. Neither of the two opts for such linkage when an Israeli is murdered in an act of terror, and the crime is dramatically solved.

Ofer Neiman

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  1. Woody Tanaka on July 7, 2014, 9:38 am

    And this is a window into the racist soul of that state, and it demonstrates the lies that the Zionists tell about it. Damn them all, and damn their media.

    • Citizen on July 7, 2014, 12:22 pm

      Mossad’s “by way of deception” is internalized by the entire Israeli government and media.

    • Penfold on July 7, 2014, 7:14 pm

      I am not sure it is working for them as their actions are being reported in the MSM more frequently and in depth here.

      Israeli Military Continue to Attack Palestinian Civilians
      Tuesday, 8 July 2014, 10:45 am
      Press Release: Palestinian Centre For Human Rights

      Reprisals Escalate in the oPt;
      Settlers and Special Israeli Military Units Continue to Attack Palestinian Civilians in the West Bank and Occupied Jerusalem, and the Israeli Warplanes Continue to Launch Airstrikes on Targets in the Gaza Strip

      http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO1407/S00068/israeli-military-continue-to-attack-palestinian-civilians.htm

      I certainly think Israel has lost control of the narrative at the moment.

  2. a blah chick on July 7, 2014, 9:44 am

    This kind of thing happens in the US all he time; the murders of young, pretty white women always trump whatever else is going on.

    • Citizen on July 7, 2014, 12:24 pm

      Is that because the US government and main media is treating American blacks just like Israel and its main media treats Palestinians? Just asking your opinion. How close is your analogy?

  3. just on July 7, 2014, 9:48 am

    Thank you for highlighting this collusion.

  4. Kay24 on July 7, 2014, 10:00 am

    Not surprised at all. Thanks to the internet, videos, and international media, we know better. Israel is now well known for their devious tactics, the lies to cover their crimes, and when found out, does not seem to feel remorse. I guess when the PM is also a noted liar, the nation seem to follow in his footsteps.
    It is a shame that the US media supports those lies.

  5. Mooser on July 7, 2014, 10:04 am

    Take a look at the lead article in TPM. See, it’s the Jewish religion’s fault that political Zionism went astray. If only the could have kept the religion out of it!
    Zionism’s theme song: “Everybody’s Fault But Mine” !! (Which is funny if you know the old Gospel song)
    And Marshall is useless, with his brave announcement that he is a Zionist.

  6. MahaneYehude1 on July 7, 2014, 10:10 am

    @Ofer Neiman Shalom;

    I think that it is really unfair. You copied the YNET (Yediot Aharonot) news web site once to show that the police marginalizes the coverage of Abu Khudair’s murder by Jewish terrorists. You deliberately ignore the fact that most of the time Abu Khdeir was on the main headline in YNET and in other news web sites. I have in my hands the Yediot Aharonot newspaper from today. Several pages cover the murder of Abu Khdeir and there are many columns about the murder including one column written by rabbis condemning the murder in a very harsh language (To whom who speak Hebrew: There are several Rabbis, including the chief Rabbi, asking for Din Rodef to the terrorists:

    Hebrew:
    http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4538823,00.html

    English:
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4538720,00.html

    I expected to read something positive about the police and the Shabak good work to captures the terrorists as soon as possible, but instead you chose to bring one screen copy from YNET to decrease the Israeli police achievement.

    Any way, I’m glad the Israeli police found the six murderers and thus proved that in Israel there is no difference between blood and blood.

    • amigo on July 7, 2014, 11:36 am

      “I expected to read something positive about the police and the Shabak good work to captures the terrorists as soon as possible, but instead you chose to bring one screen copy from YNET to decrease the Israeli police achievement.” mehane

      Your most moral police are working hard and fast because Israel is trying to ward off the international PR catastrophe this brutal crime will bring.

      But , not to worry, when Israel believes all this has faded into the hinter regions of the worlds collective memory , these thugs will get a slap on the wrist so spare me the bs about the good work of your poleeeeece.

      “Any way, I’m glad the Israeli police found the six murderers and thus proved that in Israel there is no difference between blood and blood.” mehane 1/2/3???.

      I take it then , their houses will be coming down , pronto.Well at least with the same enthusiasm they demolished the alleged hamas member who killed the three Israeli teens in occupied Palestine.

      • Kay24 on July 7, 2014, 12:58 pm

        The Israeli courts cannot be trusted to dole out due justice for the killers of Palestinians either. Take the Rachel Corrie case, even she, as an American, did not get the justice her family worked hard for. So who has any faith these monsters will be given the stiffest punishment for such a brutal crime?

      • DaBakr on July 7, 2014, 2:32 pm

        As if the Israeli justice system could really be ‘trusted’ to be “dole out due justice” for Israelis if it were put into the hands of commentators with political views such as you and your comrades here.

        anyway-many of you ‘doubted’ an arrest would ever be made in khadeirs murder and now you’ve moved on to speculate the murderers will be ‘slapped on wrist’ so i can only think, watch and wait. and of course, you will hope the murderers of the 3 boys are found and charged as well….

      • Woody Tanaka on July 7, 2014, 3:29 pm

        Yeah, we doubted that before it became apparent that the video evidence prevented the Zionists from doing their normal routine of sweeping it under the rug.

    • DaBakr on July 7, 2014, 2:15 pm

      @my
      you really expect to read anything here but 99% biting and caustic remarks about the IDK or police? forget it. this is the site where anything Israel does will be viewed through the worst possible lens, picked apart and obsessed over until virtually every story has Zionism as the ‘root’ source of the problem. Even the most benign comments are subject to smug, snarky and caustic commentary by the professional Israelbashers such as wt, moo, shng, rtz, sfd, etc.
      However, commentary aside, which I think boils down to something less then 50 or so hard-core regulars, there is valuable information published on this blog and like any other blog-if one is willling to pick through the bias, PR, and other commentary-its there to digest.

      *also-looking at the screen grab that is being touted as a “collusion” is just more nit-picking and hysteria. Mohameds Face has been [plastered all over the Israeli press and its obviously been a depressing reminder of the violence among our society. However-placing Miss Dadons picture above Khadeirs on the day her suspected murderer was arrested is hardly ‘collusion’. The Israeli public has been ‘itching’ for an arrest in this case long before the 3 boys and m. khadeir’s murders took place. What, is the Israeli press and police required to cover Khadeir as headline news above every other story from now until its critics think it appropriate. And why shouldn’t the 3 murdered boys still be headline news since there has evidently been NO progress made on the arrest of their murders. Is there any ‘collusion’ involved with that investigation?

      • Woody Tanaka on July 7, 2014, 3:33 pm

        “you really expect to read anything here but 99% biting and caustic remarks about the IDK or police?”

        Of course. In this situation where they are announcing that they’ve arrested 6 Jews for this horrific racist murder, to hold a simultaneous press conference anouncing the results of this months-old case is simply a demonstration of the racism of the system, as the story demonstrates.

        Could the three-month old story not waited a day? No, because then you wouldn’t have the story of the Jew being killed as labelled “Important” and the story of the Arab being killed as labelled “Less important.”

      • MahaneYehude1 on July 7, 2014, 5:33 pm

        @Woody:

        I am not going to respond to your comment since I said my word but you have one little mistake: The Hebrew words “Important” and “Les…” and the red bubbles are not original. They were written by Noam Livneh in his Facebook page on the screen copy of the YNET news web site front page.

      • Woody Tanaka on July 7, 2014, 6:15 pm

        MahaneYehude1:

        Okay, thank you. I understood that the bubbles were added, but I was under the impression that the words “Important” and “Less” were on the original YNET news web site, and not added later. Thank you for clarifying that.

      • DaBakr on July 7, 2014, 5:37 pm

        neither Khedeir nor Dadon was killed on the day of the headline so its a moot point and your accusations are simply opinion.

      • Woody Tanaka on July 7, 2014, 6:12 pm

        “neither Khedeir nor Dadon was killed on the day of the headline so its a moot point and your accusations are simply opinion.”

        no, it’s not a moot point. The point isn’t about the day they were killed, but the fact that the police chose that exact time to make the other announcement. What is simply opinion? You deny that they had the press conference at the same time? you deny the works in the headline?

      • Citizen on July 8, 2014, 9:01 am

        The Israeli cops & media sat on the Kadon evidence article for a long time & then published it with the Khedeir evidence breaking news. Coincidence? Only a fool would think so.

      • a blah chick on July 7, 2014, 9:00 pm

        “Even the most benign comments are subject to smug, snarky and caustic commentary by the professional Israelbashers such as wt, moo, shng, rtz, sfd, etc.”

        BTW wt, moo, shng, rtz, sfd, my check is late, whom do I contact in human resources?

      • Mooser on July 8, 2014, 7:51 pm

        “BTW wt, moo, shng, rtz, sfd, my check is late, whom do I contact in human resources?”

        Have you noticed the words the Ziocaine Syndrome sufferers are using? “professional Israelbashers” and “fellow-travelers” (at another thread) and the sarcastic “comrades”. Why, they’re calling us Commies!

        What is so hysterical about this is, of course, the history of those political slurs in the US, and whom they were most often directed against.

  7. Woody Tanaka on July 7, 2014, 10:16 am

    Is there anyone who can translate that text in each of the bubbles?

    • ahadhaadam on July 7, 2014, 1:59 pm

      The text in the big bubble says “important”, the smaller bubble says “less” (important)

      • Woody Tanaka on July 7, 2014, 3:30 pm

        Thanks. I figured it was something like that.

  8. seafoid on July 7, 2014, 10:17 am

    They may have pulled it off this time but there is a Haredi extremist group who have already murdered following mainstream incitement and Israel is not interested in peace so we can expect more ugliness from Eretz Israel Hashlemah in the months and years to come.

    • lysias on July 7, 2014, 10:19 am

      Even if they succeed in Israel, the arena that matters is American public opinion.

      • Kay24 on July 7, 2014, 10:37 am

        You are right. This time it is Bibi who has a red face and looking like an out of control maniac. The world heard/saw his terrible inciting words calling for revenge, overreacting, accusing without proof, and collectively punishing the Palestinian people. They also saw Mahmoud Abbas looking statesmanlike, trying to calm and cooperating with Israel. This entire tragic situation has left Israel exposed, and finally many Americans are opening their eyes to exactly what goes on there, because young Tarek Khdeir became an example of how Palestinian kids are treated. I am sure many folks are learning today about how kids are kidnapped and thrown in Israeli jails, the abuse, and unfair treatment.

        Where are all those Israeli firsters in congress today? The ones who constantly want to “protect and defend” the brutal occupier? The ones who keep spewing Israel’s narrative, that they are bullied by the Palestinians? Perhaps now would be a good time for them to show their cowardly faces and explain to us, why they keep sending our money to this rogue nation, and how unarmed civilians living under blockade and have no weapons are such a great threat to li’l ole Israel. Surely those deadly jet fighters that we pay for extracts more casualties than those home made rockets?

  9. seafoid on July 7, 2014, 10:41 am

    Israeli police and media operate exclusively in Ha Hebrewbubble and are pretty much irrelevant in term of the wider Galut and how the goys see the Jewish Disneyland.

    Lieberman has just thrown his toys out of his pram and is in a relationship crisis with Netanyahu because the latter won’t attack Gaza. That’s down to realpolitik on the part of Netanyahu. Galut is not going to allow it.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/1.603492

  10. DICKERSON3870 on July 7, 2014, 10:47 am

    RE: “Israel’s leading news portal, YNET, has swallowed the bait and published the following self-explanatory front page. This is a good example of collaboration between the Israeli authorities and the mainstream media to marginalize Israeli violence against Palestinians.” ~ Ofer Neiman

    URI AVNERY ON THE SORRY STATE OF THE ISRAELI MEDIA/PRESS AND THE “BRAINWASHING” OF ISRAELIS:
    “Israel’s Weird Elections”, by Uri Avnery, Counterpunch, 1/04/13:

    [EXCERPTS] . . . The Israeli media are already to a large extent neutralized, a creeping process not unsimilar to what the Germans used to call Gleichschaltung. [SEE: Gleichschaltung @ Wikipedia – J.L.D. ]
    All three TV channels are more or less bankrupt and dependent on government handouts. Their editors are practically government appointees. The printed press is also teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, except the largest “news” paper, which belongs to Sheldon Adelson and is a Netanyahu propaganda sheet, distributed gratis.
    [Naftali] Bennett repeats the ridiculous assertion that almost all journalists are left-wingers (meaning traitors.) He promises to put an end to this intolerable situation. . .
    . . . In the coming four years, the official annexation of the West Bank to Israel may become a fact. . .
    . . . If the government continues on its present course, this will lead to certain disaster – the entire country between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River will become one unit under Israeli rule. This Greater Israel will contain an Arab majority and a shrinking Jewish minority, turning it inevitably into an apartheid state, plagued by a permanent civil war and shunned by the world.
    If pressure from without and within eventually compels the government to grant civil rights to the Arab majority, the country will turn into an Arab state. 134 years of Zionist endeavor will come to naught, a repetition of the Crusaders’ kingdom.
    This is so obvious, so inevitable, that one needs an iron will not to think about it. It seems that all major parties in these elections have this will. Speaking about peace, they believe, is poison. Giving back the West Bank and East Jerusalem for peace? God forbid even thinking about it.
    The weird fact is that this week two respected polls – independent of each other – came to the same conclusion: the great majority of Israeli voters favors the “two-state solution”
    , the creation of a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders and the partition of Jerusalem. This majority includes the majority of Likud voters, and even about half of Bennett’s adherents.
    How come? The explanation lies in the next question: How many voters believe that this solution is possible? The answer: almost nobody. Over dozens of years, Israelis have been brainwashed into believing that “the Arabs” don’t want peace. If they say they do, they are lying.
    If peace is impossible, why think about it? Why even mention it in the election campaign? Why not go back 44 years to Golda Meir’s days and pretend that the Palestinians don’t exist? (“There is no such thing as a Palestinian people…It is not as though there was a Palestinian people and we came and threw them out and took their country away. They did not exist.” – Golda Meir, June 13, 1969) . . .

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/01/04/israels-weird-elections/

  11. hophmi on July 7, 2014, 11:05 am

    Just nonsense. The Abu Khdeir case has been featured in the Israeli media virtually since it happened.

    • The Hasbara Buster on July 7, 2014, 11:21 am

      And Neiman doesn’t deny it. He only states that the media are reporting Dadon’s as yet unsolved murder as if it were to any extent as relevant or important as the terror act committed by six Jews.

      • DaBakr on July 7, 2014, 2:42 pm

        and why? is one childs life less important then the others? Dadon’s mother suffering less then Khadeirs? Just stop killing kids. And you are hardly in a place to judge what a daily Israeli news rag headlines with. Its an absurd charge to claim this was some ‘obfuscation’ unless one believes ms. dadon and her family do not deserve justice either.

      • Dutch on July 8, 2014, 8:26 am

        @ DaBakr
        ‘Just stop killing kids.’

        Great idea. You start.
        http://rt.com/news/1500-palestinian-children-dead-629/

        Quotes from the article
        – In addition to the 1,520 children that have been killed [since 2000], another 6,000 have been injured and more than 10,000 arrested, Palestinian news agency Ma’an quoted [minister of social affairs] Sharafi as saying. Two-hundred children are still in detention in Israeli prisons.

        – Each year, some 700 Palestinian children aged 12 to 17 – mainly boys – are arrested, interrogated, and detained by Israel’s army, police, and security agents, UNICEF said in the [March 2013] 22-page document.

        – In June 2013, the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child (CRC) issued a report stating that thousands of Palestinian children were systematically injured, tortured, and used as human shields by Israel.

        – During the 10-year period examined by UN human rights experts, up to 7,000 children aged 9 to 17 were arrested, interrogated and kept captive, CRC said in the report.

  12. dannyad on July 7, 2014, 12:06 pm

    Complete bollocks. The death of the Arab teen was featured in all Israeli media sources. It has been strongly condemned by everyone in Israel. this murder is a disgrace. However, if anyone is hiding something it is MondoWeiss, who hides from its readers the fact that Hamas has been shooting over 100 rockets on Israeli cities in the past week, terrorizing Israeli civilians on the south. Mondweiss also doesn’t mention the murder that is highlighted above on YNET, the murder of a young woman called Shelly Dadon, who was stabbed to death 17(!!) times by a Palestinian. Mondoweiss will not tell you these stories.

    • chet on July 7, 2014, 2:33 pm

      dannyad — perhaps you might wish to enlighten us by providing the data as to the number of Israeli deaths that these glorified fireworks have caused in the past ten years.

      • dannyad on July 7, 2014, 4:17 pm

        chet,
        Don’t know the exact number of casualties from rockets, I would estimate it to be a few dozens.
        The relatively low number of casualties is mainly due to the wonder called Iron Dome. Without the Iron Dome you bet there would have already been dozens of Israeli casualties in the past few days.
        A few days ago a rocket fell in a small pre-nursery kindergarten with 4 children. Luckily the children inside were in a shelter and were not hurt. You people never hear about these incidents because
        the global media does not report about them. You only get reports about the rockets after the IDF strikes Hamas back.
        The number of casualties doesn’t matter. What matter is the fact that over million Israelis (not only Jews but also Arabs and Bedouin) who are within 40 kilometers range from Gaza are being terrorized.
        Try to think for a minute what it is to have 15 seconds to find a shelter when you hear a “red colour” alert.
        Try to think for a minute what it is to call your relatives and find out if they are all OK, every time you hear a rocket falling.
        Try to think for a minute about people who live near Gaza, that this is their reality on a daily basis for the past 10 years.
        Also don’t forget that Israel pulled out of Gaza and removed all the settlements in 2005. The cities on which the terrorists of Hamas shoot are not illegal settlements.
        But Mondoweiss never tells you these stories.
        It shows you one side only.
        It shows Palestinians suffering but it doesn’t show Israelis suffering.
        Mondoweiss is completely biased.
        I’m also wondering what were you advising your government to do if dozens of rockets were shot on your city.
        I wonder if you would ask them to stay calm and show restraint………………….
        It’s easy to speak when you live thousands of miles from where the events take place.

      • Woody Tanaka on July 7, 2014, 4:54 pm

        “The number of casualties doesn’t matter. What matter is the fact that over million Israelis (not only Jews but also Arabs and Bedouin) who are within 40 kilometers range from Gaza are being terrorized.”

        And millions of Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank are more terrorized by the Israelis. Where is your condemnation of that?

        “Try to think for a minute …”

        Why don’t you try to think for a minute of what it is like to have your land stolen from you, to have your people ethnically cleansed, to be oppressed and occupied and illegally blockaded and terrorized on a daily basis for no reaoson than you’re a non-Jews standing in a land a Jew wants to steal.

        “Also don’t forget that Israel pulled out of Gaza and removed all the settlements in 2005.”

        And turned the whole place into an open air prison that you are slowly choking with an illegal blockade.

        “I’m also wondering what were you advising your government to do if dozens of rockets were shot on your city.”

        I would tell them to stop oppressing and attacking the people that are fighting back.

      • jenin on July 7, 2014, 6:58 pm

        Perfect response

      • Djinn on July 8, 2014, 2:05 am

        Dannyad, you’re new here so I’m going to try and not be too aggressive towards your pathetic post but you’ll have to forgive me because when Israel pounds Gaza I get little sleep thanks to fear and worry and lack of sleep makes me shitty.

        No the lack of casualties is down to the fact that with crappy home made rockets you’re unlikely to ever hit anything at all and if you do its far less likely to cause injuries or death than the laser guided massive nightmares youve been raining down on people I love.

        This would be the reason that during Cast Lead over a thousand Gaza residents were slaughtered while only NINE Israelis were killed. (I am not including the 4 IDF soldiers that Israel’s utterly incompetent army killed in “friendly fire” incidents).

        This would be why huge swathes of Gaza was turned into rubble while Israeli’s wrote articles about the pet dogs of Sderot being traumatised by the noise (far more of which came from sirens than rockets)

        Sorry if I cant work up too much sympathy if the occupiers have to run to their panic rooms every now and then.

        Stop with your boring bullshit about where everyone lives BTW, you claim to live somewhere but we have no idea and likewise you have NO idea where we or our loved ones live.

        NO I will not ask those fighting oppresion to show restraint. Instead I will continue to fight against the shitty little country doing the oppressing.

        Call me biased if you like. I AM biased, I am biased towards justice not Apartheid.

      • annie on July 8, 2014, 2:36 am

        The relatively low number of casualties is mainly due to the wonder called Iron Dome.

        how much higher were the casualties before the iron dome? because i thought the number was always relatively low.

        The number of casualties doesn’t matter.

        actually they do matter. dead people make a difference. generally, people care whether their loved ones die and it’s probably much worse experiencing dying in an attack than fearing it might happen.

        Try to think for a minute what it is to have 15 seconds to find a shelter when you hear a “red colour” alert.

        gazans don’t generally have that luxury.

      • talknic on July 8, 2014, 6:15 am

        @ dannyad “The relatively low number of casualties is mainly due to the wonder called Iron Dome”

        WOW! Say … do you have any statistics, I’d like to be able to promote the info.

        “A few days ago a rocket fell in a small pre-nursery kindergarten with 4 children. Luckily the children inside were in a shelter and were not hurt. You people never hear about these incidents because the global media does not report about them. “

        You must have learned from somewhere tho… links please… I’d like to be able to promote that information too. Thx in advance

        “Try to think for a minute what it is to have 15 seconds to find a shelter when you hear a “red colour” alert”

        Try to think for a minute what it is to have no alert, no Iron Dome, NO DEFENSE WHAT SO EVER against modern war planes, modern guided missiles, naval fire, tank fire, white phosphorus raining down from the sky in DAYLIGHT, in areas where there are NO Israeli troops to hide

        “Try to think for a minute about people who live near Gaza, that this is their reality on a daily basis for the past 10 years”

        It’s been the reality of non-Jews in non-Israeli territory for the past 66 + years

        “Also don’t forget that Israel pulled out of Gaza and removed all the settlements in 2005.”

        Uh huh. However, Israel regularly makes military incursions into Gaza without condemnation of the UNSC, because it is a right reserved for an Occupying Power. Israel also controls Palestinian territorial waters, Palestinian airspace and thru the 2005 crossings agreement and the Egypt/Israeli Peace treaty can call the shots on all border crossings because it IS the Occupying Power.

        “The cities on which the terrorists of Hamas shoot are not illegal settlements”

        So tell me smart rrrrrs, when was the territory of Ashkelon and Beer Sheva legally annexed to Israel? When was any of the non-Israeli territory on THIS MAP legally annexed to Israel? (It has been illegal to acquire territory by war since at least 1933, ANY war )

        “I’m also wondering what were you advising your government to do if dozens of rockets were shot on your city”

        I’m wondering what you’d advise if your cities and towns were occupied, villages were illegally razed. Farms, orchards illegally destroyed. People illegally dispossessed, by a state that had already be given, completely gratis, more than half your territory.

      • SQ Debris on July 8, 2014, 1:37 pm

        Dannyad’s whining about the lack of reports on MW about Hamas rocketry is an attempt to change the conversation. The function, among others, of this site and the conversations that take place here, is to address issues and events that are not covered head to tail on the MSM. We Americans hear about every firecracker and hangnail that Israel receives. It’s out in the open, and given more relativistic weight than the serial atrocities inflicted, via our tax dollars, on Palestinians. See http://www.ifamericansknew.org/media/mcmanus.html. We don’t live thousands of miles away from this conflict. Every gallon of gas we buy (Fed excise tax), every sip of fine scotch we drink (Fed excise tax), every check we send to the IRS makes us individually complicit in, and enablers of, Israel’s war crimes. Quit yer whining dannyad, and clue-the-fuck-up!

    • jenin on July 7, 2014, 3:11 pm

      your racism is really exposed when you mention that she was stabbed to death by a Palestinian, as though that is relevant to anything in any way. Would you find race similarly relevant if it was a white woman and black man?

      maybe you haven’t picked up on this, but Mondoweiss is a site dedicated to exposing the injustice done to the Palestinians, the lies Israel and Zionists are constantly telling, etc. etc. There are plenty of other sites dedicated to harping on Palestinian violence which, I might add, is the result of a brutal and ongoing occupation (West Bank) and virtual imprisonment (Gaza), and ethnic cleansing.

      • dannyad on July 7, 2014, 4:33 pm

        If my racism is exposed when I mention that she was stabbed by a Palestinian, if reminding the race and origin of attackers is racist, then Mondoweiss and all of its readers are racists, cause in every article and almost every comment you hear about a Jew who killed, a zionist that killed etc. The death of Shelly Dadon is as relevant to mention as the horrifying death of Muhammed Al Khadir, which I strongly condemn.

      • seafoid on July 7, 2014, 5:04 pm

        Nobody incited the killer of Ms Dadon. Israel passed a red line in the lynching of Abu Khdeir and the hasbaradim know it.

        http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.603451

      • jenin on July 7, 2014, 5:08 pm

        Dannyad, don’t you think there’s a difference between hate crimes and crimes where the people happen to be of two different ethnicities? in one case, it appears appropriate to talk about race; in the other, it is not. Here, there is no evidence that this crime was about ethnicity/nationality/race. for all we know, it could have been a sex crime. On the other hand, it’s pretty clear that the lynching of Abu Khdeir WAS about ethnicity, as were the shootings of two Palestinian kids by IDF soldiers. Particularly, too, in cases where one group is oppressed by another group racial motivation may be discerned from the context (for instance, a white slave owner beating a black slave may not be literally motivated by race, but surely race is relevant there, as it is to the two cases discussed above). Not so in a case where it so happens an Arab cab driver killed a Jewish girl for reasons unknown.

      • jenin on July 7, 2014, 5:15 pm

        and another point, dannyad–I acknowledge that in a situation where racial/ethnic/religious tensions are high, it may be appropriate to mention in an article the races of the perpetrator and victim of a crime even when there is no direct evidence of a racially motivated attack. However, my point is rather that YOU felt the need to talk about this as though it is on the same level as the Abu Khadir situation, which was clearly a crime motivated by race; not so in the Shelly Dudon scenario. YOU spoke about these as comparable situations and thus accused Mondoweiss of misleading, which they are not. Also, the mondoweiss article specifically mentioned that she was murdered and that the suspect was Palestinian. So your whole comment is totally wrong and off base (I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and refrain from calling you a liar).

      • talknic on July 8, 2014, 6:26 am

        @ dannyad “If my racism is exposed when I mention that she was stabbed by a Palestinian, if reminding the race and origin of attackers is racist, then Mondoweiss and all of its readers are racists, cause in every article and almost every comment you hear about a Jew who killed, a zionist that killed etc.”

        Problem. Zionists are not a race and because anyone can become a Jew, we are not a race.

        Say …. maybe if Israel didn’t slaughter so any people in its vile expansionist push for non-Israeli territory ….. maybe if Israel withdrew from ALL non-Israeli territories, took its vile illegal settlers and lived in Israel… It’s never been tried

        ” The death of Shelly Dadon is as relevant to mention …”

        Why now is the real issue. It already had ample airing. Its mention now is only adding fuel to Israeli hatred for non-Jews and appears to be endangering INNOCENT Palestinian taxi drivers.

    • Shingo on July 8, 2014, 1:53 am

      However, if anyone is hiding something it is MondoWeiss, who hides from its readers the fact that Hamas has been shooting over 100 rockets on Israeli cities in the past week, terrorizing Israeli civilians on the south.

      I guess you’ve been hiding the fact that Israel has killed 12 Palestinians in the West Bank in past 3 weeks, and 7 in Gaza in the last 24 hours. But I keep forgetting, one Jewish fingernail is worth more than all those lives right Danny?

    • annie on July 8, 2014, 2:30 am

      Mondweiss also doesn’t mention the murder that is highlighted above on YNET, the murder of a young woman called Shelly Dadon

      i would urge you to read http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/marginalize-muhammad-khudairs.html “Israeli police and media collude to marginalize coverage of Muhammad Abu Khudair’s murder”

      we’ve heard about people this murder. i made this comment in another thread. we don’t forget:

      oh i get what you’re saying. after the murder of shelly dadon israel’s military forces decided to kill two palestinian teenagers in cold blood starting a cycle of revenge killings which resulted in the abduction and killing of 3 israeli teens and then numerous other palestinians killed during the state of israel’s weeks long WB poprom and then another palestinian teen burned alive?

      i get it. yeah, thanks for pointing that out.

  13. Taxi on July 7, 2014, 2:43 pm

    “It has been strongly condemned by everyone in Israel. this murder is a disgrace. ”

    That’s a cute lie or two right there. (I don’t believe you care about a single Palestinian life).

    You know what’s “bollocks”, danny? Colonialism is “bollocks”. Occupation is “bollocks”. Racism is “bollocks”. Arrogant ignorance is “bollocks”. Simply put, the motive behind your post is “bollocks”.

    • Tobias on July 7, 2014, 5:00 pm

      Too right Taxi, I think Danny is a bit of a bollocks as well
      .

  14. jenin on July 7, 2014, 2:53 pm

    slightly OT–I didn’t actually know about this murder and googled Dadon…read an article in the Jerusalem post which was the first to pop up. I read a couple of the comments but could not continue, they were so horribly racist it is appalling: “don’t get in a cab with an Arab” etc. to the one person who wrote something critical of Israel and mentioned the 2 boys shot by Israeli soldiers, “I hope next time you get in a cab with an Arab” and “too bad they didn’t finish the job and kill a million Palestinian kids.” I guess having read Blumenthal’s book and many others I shouldn’t be that surprised, but there was something about seeing it in the flesh, so to speak.

  15. Taxi on July 7, 2014, 4:13 pm

    Very disturbing to think that my tax dollars are being freely given to a despotic and violent country distinguished by its incessant rabid racism – a vile and trigger-happy regime that’s in possession of some 200+ illegal nukes.

    We gotta stop sending them our bucks. We gotta BDS not just settlements and their business partners (practically all of israel), but we gotta also BDS American zionist politicians who are seemingly leading us and the world into a grim, icy darkness.

    COMPLETELY boycott israel-firster politicians at the next election.

    • jenin on July 7, 2014, 5:30 pm

      while I agree with you, that basically leaves me with no one left to vote for :-(

      • Taxi on July 8, 2014, 12:35 am

        I actually think it’s more important and more potent to vote in local elections than it is to vote in national presidential elections.

        Get the vermin out of your local office first – why not vote Green, they at least are against aid to israel.
        http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Green_Party_Foreign_Policy.htm

  16. Taxi on July 7, 2014, 4:30 pm

    The two most dangerous forces in the middle east right now aren’t ISIS and Alquaida, it’s psycho zionism and its illegally acquired nuclear weapons.

    ISIS and Alquaida are loathed and feared alright, but they’re just killer-puppets: take the western/gulfie/turkish hands out of these puppet’s arses and they just flop to the floor like used handkerchiefs. Plus, and this is very important, ISIS and Alqauida DON’T have illegal nukes like racist israel does.

  17. Taxi on July 7, 2014, 4:49 pm

    It’s unlikely that the world will easily forget how jewish isreali settlers burned a child alive on the outside and on the inside simultaneously, then with frenzied pride marched and chanted for an encore.

    There is no difference in evil between killing a person in a gas chamber and the unspeakable way Mohammad Khudeir was snuffed out. Both are death chambers. And I despair to think that the tender Mohammad Khudeir (R.I.P.) had the added agony of a blaze exploding in his thorax.

    No you can never un-internet this degree of horror. The whole damn holy land has lost its soul because of the violent incompetence and greed of its current rulers.

    • seafoid on July 7, 2014, 5:00 pm

      http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.603451

      “There are no words to describe the horror allegedly done by six Jews to Mohammed Abu Khdeir of Shoafat. Although a gag order bars publication of details of the terrible murder and the identities of its alleged perpetrators, the account of Abu Khdeir’s family — according to which the boy was burned alive — would horrify any mortal”

    • seafoid on July 7, 2014, 5:27 pm

      Taxi

      It seems there is a ban on reporting how he was killed. I haven’t seen it on any regular news site. I can’t believe how bad things have become in Israel.
      The authorities have lost control of a subsection of the population.

  18. amigo on July 7, 2014, 7:34 pm

    “It seems there is a ban on reporting how he was killed. I haven’t seen it on any regular news site. ” seafoid.

    Are you referring to Israeli news sites or more broadly.

    RTE –(Ireland,s main TV station has been reporting that he was “killed “by 6 Israeli Jews who have been arrested ,

    I placed a call and inquired as to why they are not reporting that he was “burned to death”. In light of your statement that there is a gag order , I will call tue a.m and ask if they are adhering to an Israeli gag order.I will certainly want to know what legal credence such an order has in our sovereign nation .

    I will follow up with the response.

  19. Danaa on July 8, 2014, 12:36 am

    For a little countermeasure to the ever-repellant hasbara, here is one of several facebooks popping up all over Israel:

    http://www.facebook.com/StopHanin

    Yes, it is in hebrew, but google translate can give enough of the flavor. Lots of likes for this one which basically incites against Hanen Zoabi, the Palestinian-israeli Knesset member who appears to have driven some israelis quite mad with hatred.

    I especially recommend a comment from yesterday which shows a video from Syria perspective (don’t watch!) implying that Zoabi and Jihadi are quite the same. Makes sense, right?

    For those who are interested (and Max Blumenthal has certainly done much research on the subject of pure hate) there are many more where this came from. Note that people “like” this facebook – along with others of the same ilk – under their own names. They don’t even try to mask their identities – like it’s something to be proud of. An old Israeli friend – who apparently liked these types of postings quite a bit – brought it to my attention in an [unsolicited] e mail (I am on his list for some reason). He actually thought I might find the substance “convincing”. No wonder i don’t miss my old friends much…..

  20. Citizen on July 8, 2014, 6:10 am

    To put these murders in context, I note that the chief of IDF, the chief of Mossad have both recently stated (uncharacteristically) in public or semi-public (and the former director of Israel’s security agency also said in 2012) that the biggest existential threat to Israel is not Iran, but the nasty policies of Israel towards Palestinians. http://blogs.forward.com/jj-goldberg/201502/more-from-spy-chiefs-palestine-conflict-not-iran/?

    Seems Bibi’s main parrots are roosting in the WH and halls of the US Congress, not in the smartest and most knowledgeable roosts in Israel.

  21. piotr on July 8, 2014, 11:24 am

    “The number of casualties doesn’t matter. What matter is the fact that over million Israelis (not only Jews but also Arabs and Bedouin) who are within 40 kilometers range from Gaza are being terrorized.”

    The number actually matter. If the numbers were higher, the government of Israel would consider concessions that could end that situation, as it happened with Hezbollah. The key concession would be to refrain from periodic assassinations and other killings, something that would quickly restore “calm”, and more solid concessions could remove the “theat” almost completely. As it happened with Hezbollah (Israel is still childishly performing sonic booms, but does not conduct assassinations, bombings, cross border killings, and Lebanese can engage in economic activity without interference from Israel, and would Hezbollah attack Israel out of the blue, which they can, they would loose a lot).

    But with numbers so low as they are, the permanent “crisis” in respect to Gaza is too convenient to end it.

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