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In an address to the United Nations General Assembly yesterday, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas called on the  Security Council to pass a resolution to end the Israeli occupation by ordering the immediate resumption of negotiations with a set time limit to demarcate the boundaries of a Palestinian state.

“The introduction of a draft resolution aspires to correct the deficiency of the previous efforts to achieve peace,” Abbas said to the General Assembly in New York.

“We are the only people remaining under occupation in the world,” he continued.

Abbas did not say when this resolution has to be implemented or outline what repercussions Israel could face if it does not comply. Senior Palestinian officials confirmed a draft has already been written in consultation with members of the Arab League and Hamas. Over the weekend while in Cairo negotiating a long-term ceasefire in Gaza, Hamas officials were said to have again signed off on the text, pledging support privately. Those officials include Hamas’s political bureau leader Khaled Mashal.

Conflicting time tables for ending the occupation

During the General Assembly this week ranking members of the Palestinian government made conflicting remarks about precisely when this Security Council proposal will be submitted. Member of the PLO Central Council Dr. Mustafa Barghouti said it will be released “immediately”– within a month– while Economic Minister Mohammed Shtayyeh said he thought the resolution would be presented the following day. However, the Palestinian delegation to the UN left New York shortly after Abbas’s speech.

Abbas said his resolution would include a “specific timeframe” to fully remove Israel’s occupation in the terms, “stipulated in the Arab Peace Initiative,”—in which Arab states offered to normalize relations with Israel once it recognizes a Palestinian state on the June 1967 lines, an offer that has been on the table since 2002. Beyond those general details, however, no other information has been released, including when this political project will begin.

That lack of clarity seems to extend to the Palestinian government. Discussing when Israel has to return to 1967 lines in a Thursday meeting at the General Assembly with the Chilean president, “Abu Mazen [Abbas] said it could be six months, it could be a year, it doesn’t matter as far as there is a deadline and that’s something he said in the meeting,” stated Spokesperson for the PLO Xavier Abu Eid. Abu Eid said, “I’ve heard from six months to three years,” continuing, “The idea is putting a deadline to end the occupation.”

Earlier this month, Chief Negotiator Saeb Erekat notioned a three-year deadline to end the occupation. But Abu Eid said, “I could tell you based on gossip three years, but I do not have three years.”

Palestinian Economic Minister Mr. Shtayyeh said this afternoon the text of the Security Council resolution he saw makes clear a deadline of three months, and Dr. Barghouti added that once an agreement on borders has been reached, Israel will then have three years to remove their civilians and forces. If the United States vetoes this resolution inside the Security Council, as many expect, Dr. Barghouti said the Palestinian leaders would then seek the option of acceding to the Rome Statute to join the International Criminal Court (ICC) where they could then charge Israel with crimes against humanity.

Weeks ago Palestinian leaders announced that letters to join the ICC have been drafted and a separate memorandum has been signed by all Palestinian parties supporting the measure, but senior members of the PLO say at this point there is no timetable for when they would actually join the court.

Inside the Palestinian government “there is one opinion that we should join the Rome statute immediately,” and another to wait, said Dr. Barghouti who emphasized that his personal position is that the PLO should join the ICC in conjunction with the Security Council Resolution. Indeed there is overwhelming support among Palestinians to pursue the ICC, and for weeks Palestinian officials have fingered Abbas as the lone holdout. “Some think the Rome Statute is like the nuclear option,” said Barghouti of his guarded colleagues. “In my opinion this could be a reasonable opinion before Gaza, not after.” Indeed Abbas also mentioned Gaza as an impetus for appealing to the United Nations for support, stating, “This last war against Gaza was a series of absolute war crimes carried out before the eyes and ears of the entire world, moment by moment, in a manner that makes it inconceivable that anyone today can claim that they did not realize the magnitude and horror of the crime. The difference today is that the scale of this genocidal crime is larger.”

‘A most abhorrent form of Apartheid’

Abbas hopes to finally  lock down a mechanism to address final status issues–namely water, borders, Jerusalem and refugees. Those matters have been on hold for the past 25 years; not since the onset of the Oslo Accords have Palestinian leaders discussed core issues of the conflict in negotiations with Israel.

In his speech to the U.N General Assembly Abbas chastised Israel saying,”the future proposed by the Israeli government for the Palestinian people is at best isolated ghettos for Palestinians on fragmented lands.” He continued that if there is no deadline to end the occupation the West Bank and Gaza will be marooned to “the subjugation of the racist settlers and army of occupation, and at worst will be a most abhorrent form of Apartheid.”

Abbas made additional remarks on the heightened tensions in Israeli society that led to a series of violent attacks against Palestinians, hitting a fever pitch during the summer. “This culture of racism, incitement and hatred was glaringly manifested in the despicable, appalling crime committed months ago by fascist settlers, who abducted the young Jerusalemite boy Mohammed Abu Khdeir, burnt him alive and killed him,” he said.

Update: The State Department was quick to denounce Abbas’s speech for the comments on the occupation. AP’s Matt Lee posted this statement last night:

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  1. eljay
    eljay
    September 27, 2014, 9:40 am

    >> The State Department was quick to denounce Abbas’s speech for the comments on the occupation.

    Yeah, it’s always terribly counterproductive when the woman chained in the bunker provocatively screams in desperation that she’s being held captive by a rapist. It really dampens the positive atmosphere in the bunker.

  2. annie
    annie
    September 27, 2014, 10:09 am

    it seems as tho it is dragging on forever ..but then this:

    Palestinian Economic Minister Mr. Shtayyeh said this afternoon the text of the Security Council resolution he saw makes clear a deadline of three months, and Dr. Barghouti added that once an agreement on borders has been reached, Israel will then have three years to remove their civilians and forces. If the United States vetoes this resolution inside the Security Council, as many expect, Dr. Barghouti said the Palestinian leaders would then seek the option of acceding to the Rome Statute to join the International Criminal Court (ICC) where they could then charge Israel with crimes against humanity.

    iow, there’s 3 months to agree to borders and the rest of the three years to pull out? if this is the gist of it does that mean if there’s no proposal in 3 months they go to the ICC?

    Indeed there is overwhelming support among Palestinians to pursue the ICC, and for weeks Palestinian officials have fingered Abbas as the lone holdout. “Some think the Rome Statute is like the nuclear option,” said Barghouti of his guarded colleagues. “In my opinion this could be a reasonable opinion before Gaza, not after.”

    when is abbas going to keel over?

    • Sycamores
      Sycamores
      September 27, 2014, 10:16 am

      what role does creating a Palestinian unity government has to play in Abbas dragging his feet?

    • NickJOCW
      NickJOCW
      September 27, 2014, 11:20 am

      For Abbas to achieve a boundary agreement and an exit schedule in a diplomatic manner is worth infinitely more than a series of long drawn out sessions at the ICC which would be retributive, sure, but would not of themselves secure an end to the occupation. The threat of the ICC is the most important, if not just about the only, bargaining tool Abbas has aside from increasing global sympathy; much more useful for that purpose than for actual implementation. Netanyahu in particular appears to have psychological characteristics that make it virtually inconceivable he would ever allow himself to be called to account in an international court. Slowly, slowly catchee monkey?

      • annie
        annie
        September 27, 2014, 11:47 am

        nick, you can only threaten for so long. it’s been threatened time and again. last year abbas threatened and then backed off in agreement for a 9 month negotiation and freeing prisoners which produced nothing but 2/3 of the prisoner release, and then israel reneged and stole those people back during the summer WB pogrom. so why not go then, last spring?

        For Abbas to achieve a boundary agreement and an exit schedule in a diplomatic manner is worth infinitely more than a series of long drawn out sessions at the ICC

        but he will not receive a boundary agreement, please! we’ve been thru this time and again.

        2011 “where’s the proposal?” http://mondoweiss.net/2011/12/europe-asks-wheres-israels-proposal

        2014 “it’s the borders stupid” http://mondoweiss.net/2014/04/the-borders-stupid

        anyone who thinks israel is going to turn in their proposals now in this 3 month juncture is living in fantasy land. you can’t just say ‘you’ve got another extension’ time and time again? it’s time to cough it up now or get on with it. at least it’s 3 months instead of 9. why not one week? seriously, in 3 months will things be any different. they should poop or get off the pot, not just push this down the road again. everyone is ready for change, now!

      • NickJOCW
        NickJOCW
        September 27, 2014, 5:15 pm

        Annie, the situation is evolving. Consider how different the picture is now compared with five years ago, how many have been awakened to this issue despite such a multitude of distractions. The Palestinians have been variously ousted from their land and restored to it again for 3500 years, generally because the powers that subdued them were in time subdued themselves. Why should it be different now? Abbas is a Palestinian, he has patience. So have the other Palestinians, you see it behind their pain and suffering. OK we are talking about 60 years but the US constitution was signed less than 250 years ago. That’s why many Americans fail to understand people like Palestinians. and nations like Iran whose recorded history goes back 2500 years, and that only if you start with Cyrus. Patience will win. The Zionist regime will disappear, it is already a pariah and showing signs of internal decay. It simply cannot last indefinitely. If Abbas actually goes to the ICC, then the future will be much more ugly for the Israelis and particularly for the settlers. If, on the other hand, an accommodation can be reached then isn’t that better? Yes, the settlers and others are deeply offensive but, like it or not, they are human. It may be romantic but would it not be preferable to achieve a change of heart, repentance, restitution and mutual forgiveness, however difficult, than retribution. I don’t know Hebrew but our KIng James, Deuteronomy 32:35 has: To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

      • annie
        annie
        September 27, 2014, 11:19 pm

        shingo, yes it would be better for an accommodation to be reached, but i don’t believe israelis can/will be accommodating. and i know palestinians have more sumud than i do, still i want to see this in my lifetime.

      • Gene Shae
        Gene Shae
        September 28, 2014, 12:36 am

        Annie: the Israelis have laid out their terms. 2 States for 2 Peoples. Why is that so damn difficult?

      • annie
        annie
        September 28, 2014, 1:38 am

        gene, no border proposals. http://mondoweiss.net/2014/09/security-council-occupation#comment-712475 can’t have 2 states w/no borders. besides, netanyahu recently announced no end to occupation. so your claim is BS

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        September 28, 2014, 10:24 am

        Geneshae

        the Israeli formulation of 2 states for 2 people is known in diplomatic parlance as breadcrumbing or attention whoring

        http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Breadcrumbing&defid=5308006

      • annie
        annie
        September 28, 2014, 10:39 am

        seafoid, that’s perfect!

      • just
        just
        September 28, 2014, 10:29 am

        Gene is also a fan of the Luntzian “quiet for quiet”.

        ’nuff said.

      • talknic
        talknic
        September 29, 2014, 10:04 am

        @ Gene Shae ” the Israelis have laid out their terms. 2 States for 2 Peoples. Why is that so damn difficult?”

        Nope. Quite simple actually … except for the fact that Israel keeps illegally claiming , illegally annexing, illegally settling and illegally building in the territory of the other state, Palestine.

        But you know this. So, why are you acting stupid and asking stupid questions?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        September 29, 2014, 6:47 pm

        ” I don’t know Hebrew but our KIng James, Deuteronomy 32:35 has: To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste. “

        Yes, the Zionists are terribly afraid of the Palestinians taking revenge on them. Well, I’ll relay the Scripture Quote, and hope they catch the veiled warning.

    • catporn
      catporn
      September 27, 2014, 1:35 pm

      Yea, you could probably make a case if it was “the UNSC has one week to implement the resolution, if the US vetoes it we’re going to the ICC”.
      Then any protestations by the US about going to the ICC can be thrown back at them, they’re not taking a two state solution seriously so we’re going elsewhere.
      But all this prevaricating by Abbas looks bad. I thought they’d agreed at Kerry’s insistence to put it off, at the very latest, until the end of the last round of peace talks, which was what, February, March?

      Is he playing petty party politics?

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      September 27, 2014, 5:24 pm

      when is abbas going to keel over?

      When is someone going to put a bullet in the back of his head? Isn’t he supposed to be stepping down anyway ?

      • Accentitude
        Accentitude
        September 28, 2014, 5:56 am

        Shingo, what happened when the United States and the “transitional” Iraqi puppet government it propped up, put a rope around Saddam’s neck? Nothing better for the people of Iraq of course.

        I don’t agree with Abbas’ leadership but I certainly don’t want someone to put a bullet in his head.

  3. Kay24
    Kay24
    September 27, 2014, 10:39 am

    This is yet another cry for help by the Palestinians, and most probably this too, will go unheeded.
    The US will twist every arm it could on behalf of it’s little protege, to prevent any sort of resolution that will end this idiotic but brutal occupation. If the world does not do the right thing, right now, just after witnessing the massacre in Gaza, and see the devastation Israel inflicts every couple of years or so, then nothing will convince them, that these poor people are in desperate need to be free of this occupation, have basic human rights, and be able to defend themselves from the zionist onslaught, land grabs, and years of blockades.

    Shame on the US for criticizing Abbas’s pleas to the world to help end the occupation. We know the game it plays on behalf of Israel. Basically the message from the US to the world is, that they support this occupation, in fact Barbara Boxer just pushed for a resolution making sure they have more support, more weapons, and everlasting love from the US. Despite the violent effort by Israel to break the unity government, it seems the group is still united. Israel uses every cheap excuse in the book to keep this charade going, and the US keeps patting it’s head in agreement.

  4. Gene Shae
    Gene Shae
    September 27, 2014, 10:51 am

    A lot of words for an old guy. What can’t he just say 2 sates for 2 people? Then he would have Israel on board

    • Accentitude
      Accentitude
      September 28, 2014, 2:34 am

      Enough of your B.S. Actions speak louder than words. Arafat and Rabin hugged it out with Clinton on the White House lawn and declared “2 states for 2 people”, did it happen? No. Israelis murdered their so-called peacenik and turbocharged the settlement program and the same has happened every single time talks were initiated.

      The idea of 2 states for 2 people has been the basis of every single round of negotiations since the start of this conflict. When has Israel ever been on board? Go on, I’ll wait.

    • amigo
      amigo
      September 28, 2014, 3:08 pm

      ” What can’t he just say 2 sates for 2 people?” Gene S..

      Why can,t you say”Two States for Two people.

    • talknic
      talknic
      September 29, 2014, 10:09 am

      @ Gene Shae“A lot of words for an old guy. What can’t he just say 2 sates for 2 people? Then he would have Israel on board”

      Bullsh*t your specialty is it? Abbas offered, in front of the world in 2011 and 2012 at the UN, to accept only 22% of the Palestinians rightful territories for peace with Israel. Israel answered by building even more illegal settlements in non-Israeli territory, continuing the illegal occupation and slaughtering more and more Palestinian civilians.

  5. HarryLaw
    HarryLaw
    September 27, 2014, 11:38 am

    The notion that Israel is going to talk about final status positions is absurd, they have failed to talk about them for the past 20 years, far better for them to continue the talks i.e, the annexation process, it is obvious the Palestinian leadership do not have a coherent plan of action, they seem to be waiting for something to turn up, it will, in the form of thousands of new settlements. If I were a Zionist I would be laughing at the antics of Abbas and Co. In his speech Abbas said Israel wants to see the Palestinians in isolated ghettos, in my opinion the Palestinians will be lucky to get that so long as Abbas keeps deferring to his masters in US/Israel. Because Abbas continues looking to start further futile negotiations while refusing to join all the UN Agencies and the ICC, the Palestinians suffering will continue http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/un-abbas-accuses-israel-waging-war-genocide-2108714766

    • Kay24
      Kay24
      September 27, 2014, 12:35 pm

      It seems every time the Palestinians make a move to legally end this, they seem to face this insurmountable wall put up by the US, who should not pretend it is an honest broker in this disaster. The US consistently does what Israel wants it to, and put it’s interests above the Palestinians. The US has for years been complicit in Israel’s wars, land theft, and the occupation. Only the naive will keep believing otherwise.

      • Accentitude
        Accentitude
        September 28, 2014, 2:35 am

        I know what the reaction of Israel to Abbas’ speech is going to be. They’re so predictable. Two words:

        JERUSALEM TENDERS

    • Abierno
      Abierno
      September 28, 2014, 3:21 pm

      @harrylaw I think the situation now is very different. While our mainstream media has blocked out the horrors of the most recent Gaza massacre, world news has not. Abbas is riding the crest of world wide aversion to Israeli war crimes. The assignment of the term genocide to Protective Edge did not originate with Abbas. Palestine is unified despite the Netanyahu government’s best efforts to derail it. This government has the support of the EU, all the BRICS, Iran and many nonaligned nations, as well as the Arab league. Israel’s prime support, the US, is an economic dustbin with a mostly incoherent foreign policy as well as having a UN ambassador of less than marginal competence. I wonder if Abbas, Erekat and Ashwari are not using the ICC threat as a feint while they back channel some means of getting Abbas proposal before the General Assembly which would without reservation approve the proposal. The US and the UK already stand isolated as Netanyahu’s “poodles.” Snowden’s revelations of the unfiltered metadata dumps of all US communications including those of the US senate, house and government agencies to Israel’s 8200 intel units explains much of why this is the case. One has to wonder how much of this information Israel has sold internationally as they did with the trove of data stolen by Pollard. Again, the US has never had less world wide credibility than it does now.

  6. HarryLaw
    HarryLaw
    September 27, 2014, 11:48 am

    More on President Abbas stopping the complaint at the ICC, to the astonishment of the ICC Prosecutor here. http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/abbas-stopped-palestinian-application-icc-1206160342

    • joemowrey
      joemowrey
      September 27, 2014, 12:27 pm

      And no doubt, despite his empty rhetoric at the UN, Abbas, the traitorous collaborator, will do everything he can to obstruct any effort on the part of the Palestinians to accede to the Rome Statute. Let’s hope there is a special place in Hell for creatures like Abbas. He is the Palestinians worst enemy.

      • chet
        chet
        September 28, 2014, 4:33 pm

        Marshall Mahmoud Petain of the Vichy Palestinian Authority

  7. Horizontal
    Horizontal
    September 27, 2014, 12:59 pm

    “Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman also blasted Abbas, accusing him of ‘diplomatic terrorism’.”

    gulfnews.com/news

    So now the Palestinians are being accused of firing verbal rockets into Israel. Like most bullies, these guys have really thin skins.

    • michelle
      michelle
      September 28, 2014, 3:54 pm

      .
      the world has seen the pictures of the young
      Israeli girls writting messages on unfired bombs
      .
      once again Israel trumps its neighbors in how to live life wrong
      .
      G-d Bless
      .

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      September 29, 2014, 6:50 pm

      Abbas can’t get no love nowhere. Sad.

  8. catporn
    catporn
    September 27, 2014, 1:00 pm

    Awe, Jen Psaki, what a wonderful world it is where people that can’t even find the back of their own head are given such a high profile positions at the US state dept:

    “Such provocative statements undermine efforts to create a positive atmosphere and restore trust”.

    ggrraalllt, innaaaarr. Sorry, I’m trying to comment on her comment, but I can’t form any words.

    • Accentitude
      Accentitude
      September 28, 2014, 2:37 am

      Perhaps in Jen Psaki’s world, a “positive atmosphere” for negotiations would include overstuffed leather recliners, mood lights and a Yanni CD. Would that get Bibi back to the table?

      • catporn
        catporn
        September 28, 2014, 3:02 pm

        I think in ‘Jen Psaki’s world’ the Palestinian and Israeli negotiating teams have fallen out over something like who did or didn’t pay for dinner at some restaurant. Her line about “restoring trust” shows a level of awareness that rocks make fun of.
        Though I have to admit its a lot of fun watching Matt Lee ask her basic questions, its like a comedy skit.

  9. Ira Glunts
    Ira Glunts
    September 27, 2014, 4:26 pm

    Three things missing from Abbas speech: 1)Specifying the time limit in the UNSC resolution proposal and when it would be delivered 2) The much reported decision to take Israel to the ICC 3) Hamas.

    These omissions do not inspired confidence. Despite all the pundits that say the speech indicates that Abbas will renounce US mediation and internationalize the conflict, Ha’aretz reports that pressure from the US convinced Abbas not to detail his UNSC proposal.

    Also, not mentioning Hamas indicates both bowing to US pressure and lack of commitment or faith of the unity government.

    I was actually hoping for better, but now feel that Abbas may back off both the ICC and the UNSC proposals.

    Maybe Abbas should be spending more time trying to drum up support for Gaza reconstruction, diplomacy aimed at forcing Israel to lift the siege and building the unity government.

    • Abierno
      Abierno
      September 28, 2014, 3:41 pm

      I think it is important to contextualize Abbas speech with Rouhani’s eloquent speech on Islamaphobia, colonial aims and the West. Also thanks to US disastrous foreign policy, the dollar is moving toward oblivion as reserve currency, the EU is finalizing negotiations with Iran for oil delivered through Austria and Poroshenko is is subtly aligning with Putin realizing that otherwise Ukrainians will freeze. The world center of gravity is rapidly shifting away from the US. Abbas timing may await the next US diplomacy disaster – which is not if but when. Given the Israeli centric teams in the White House, it can be expected in weeks not months. That Netanyahu is being feted at the White House despite his well documented war crimes tells the world all they need to know about US foreign policy.

  10. traintosiberia
    traintosiberia
    September 27, 2014, 7:16 pm

    This guy should resign . He has hurt Palestinian cause more than anybody in recent times . He is very much in the camps of the Liberal Zionist .

  11. Rusty Pipes
    Rusty Pipes
    September 27, 2014, 10:08 pm

    Abbas needs to demonstrate that he has exhausted all reasonable remedies for either the UNGA to override the UNSC veto or the ICC to take up the case. The Obama administration needs to avoid upsetting major Zionist donors to keep whatever Democratic congresscritters make it through the election willing to help him pass any legislation or approve nominees (that is, if the Democratic base finds any motivation beyond scare tactics to turn out to vote for these over-funded but less-than-inspiring candidates).

    If not now, when?

  12. Palikari
    Palikari
    September 28, 2014, 1:17 am

    Abbas is a hypocrite and a professional victim.

    • Accentitude
      Accentitude
      September 28, 2014, 2:40 am

      Do tell. I think there’s a special slot for “professional victims” who consistently rape the memory of the Holocaust to justify murdering Palestinians. Isn’t that what Israel does best? Those professionals are in a major league of their own.

    • eljay
      eljay
      September 29, 2014, 7:07 am

      >> Palikareee: Abbas is a hypocrite and a professional victim.

      Abbas is a Zio-supremacist? Who knew!

  13. NickJOCW
    NickJOCW
    September 28, 2014, 3:24 am

    President Abbas’ speech today included offensive characterisations that were deeply disappointing and which we reject. Jan Psaki State Department Spokesperson.

    That response encapsulates what the real problem has ever been. What Abbas has done now is shift the issue out of US hands. That’s no mean achievement, and it is arguable that it could only have been accomplished after an event of the magnitude of the recent slaughter, watched before the eyes of by the entire world. That horror may prove to be a ‘Twin Tower’ event for Palestinians and galvanise world opinion behind them. Furthermore, whatever spokespersons may say, I would not be surprised to discover that Obama has been kept abreast of this plan and ‘looked kindly on it’. After all, Abbas and others have made no secret of it, Hanan Ashrawi confirmed it in her moving interview on ABC news. http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/plos-hanan-ashrawi-deliberate-massacre-gaza-24639854 . Events appear to be proceeding according to a definite plan and in that sense Abbas is using the ICC option.

  14. Kay24
    Kay24
    September 28, 2014, 7:29 am

    It is going to be a hard sell for Benjy to convince the world, the bloody carnage they saw, the blowing up of little children while playing soccer, and the UN shelters being bombed many times, were all a figment of their imagination, at the UN.

    “Netanyahu heading to UN to ‘refute lies’ about Israel
    Prime Minister will use General Assembly speech to respond to Rohani and Abbas, accusing them both of deception and incitement.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.618050

    Something tells me this time he will not be showing any cartoon bombs, because from the time he showed the last one, it seems it was not Iran who used any, but predictably Israel did!
    Israeli bombs killed over 2000, injuring thousands….Iran nil.

    • just
      just
      September 28, 2014, 8:33 am

      I hope the audience laughs at him with horrified derision and disbelief! I also hope that they wear protection from the fumes of sulfur.

      “Netanyahu’s comments come after Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas charged that Israel had committed “a series of absolute war crimes carried out before the eyes and ears of the entire world” during an address to the General Assembly on Friday.

      “In this year, proclaimed by the United Nations General Assembly as the International Year of Solidarity with the Palestinian People, Israel has chosen to make it a year of a new war of genocide perpetrated against the Palestinian people,” he said.

      With memories of the Nazi Holocaust still fresh in Israel, use of the word “genocide” is regarded as particularly provocative both to Netanyahu and Israelis in general.

      An angry Netanyahu promised an appropriate response when he himself addresses the General Assembly on Monday.

      In my address to the UN General Assembly, I will refute all of the lies being directed at us and I will tell the truth about our state and about the heroic soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces, the most moral army in the world,” Netanyahu said.

      During the 50-day Gaza war, which ended Aug. 26, Israel launched thousands of airstrikes against what it said were Hamas-linked targets in the densely populated coastal territory, while Gaza militants fired several thousand rockets at Israel. More than 2,100 Palestinians were killed, the vast majority civilians, and some 18,000 homes were destroyed, according to U.N. figures. Sixty-six soldiers and six civilians were killed on the Israeli side.

      The devastating war weakened Abbas domestically, with his Hamas rivals enjoying a surge of popularity among Palestinians for fighting Israel.

      He is under pressure at home to come up with a new political strategy after his repeated but failed attempts to establish a Palestinian state through U.S.-mediated negotiations with Israel.

      But his remarks at the UN appear to have alienated many mainstream Israelis, beyond just Netanyahu and members of his rightwing government.

      “Genocide is a term that shouldn’t be bandied about frivolously,” wrote Nahum Barnea in the mass circulation Yediot Ahronot daily. “In diplomatic and legal terms, it is on par with a declaration of war.”

      http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israels-netanyahu-refute-gaza-lies-25814789

      Can someone point out the “mainstream Israelis”?

      • Shmuel
        Shmuel
        September 28, 2014, 8:42 am

        Genocide is a term that shouldn’t be bandied about frivolously,” wrote Nahum Barnea in the mass circulation Yediot Ahronot daily. “In diplomatic and legal terms, it is on par with a declaration of war.”

        And what was Barnea expecting for Gaza? A thank you note and a box of Ramallah’s finest chocolates?

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        September 28, 2014, 9:55 am

        The last time he made that ridiculous speech at the UN accusing Iran of all kinds of things Israel was really guilty of, regarding bombs, the audience was not fooled.
        This time, fresh after the Gaza massacre, it will really be hard, even for a world known liar like Benjy, to convince anyone. There will be poker faces, but behind the scenes, he will be once again looked upon as a war criminal justifying his orders to slaughter civilians in Gaza, based on lies. He is also not very popular at home, and some have called his policies a failure.
        No one deserves it more.

      • just
        just
        September 28, 2014, 10:04 am

        It is an disturbingly myopic statement that Barnea wrote. Obviously for Zionist consumption only.

        Here’s just one of the videos that Netanyahu should watch prior to lying to the world tomorrow.

        “Waiting For The Bombs To Fall: Life In Gaza During War ”

      • seafoid
        seafoid
        September 28, 2014, 10:25 am

        Israel wouldn’t declare Protective Sadism as a war because to do so would open Israel to compensation claims.

      • justicewillprevail
        justicewillprevail
        September 28, 2014, 3:56 pm

        Anybody who appreciates comedy should tune into the demagogues propaganda speech tomorrow. More kids cartoons? Or just the blatant lies and pathetic posturing of a full-time fantasist? Complete with, of course, the routine bullying, bluster and chicanery

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        September 29, 2014, 6:53 pm

        “In diplomatic and legal terms, it is on par with a declaration of war.”

        Except Israel didn’t do that, either, declare war. But all the Hasbara folks kept on referring to it as a “war”. So they lose there, too.

  15. just
    just
    September 28, 2014, 1:16 pm

    Looks who’s cozying up to the Netanyahu:

    “During the meeting, the two Prime Ministers will speak about improving bilateral ties and a range of issues from cooperation in agriculture to cooperation on anti-terror technology

    Prime Minister Narendra Modi will meet Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday marking a distinct shift in India’s position on the West Asian conflict. As The Hindu had reported a week ago, the meeting was kept under wraps till the last minute, but officials had been trying to schedule it for a few weeks.

    According to sources, Mr. Netanyahu was unable to leave Tel Aviv until Sunday owing to the religious holidays of Rosh Hoshanah and Yom Kippur, and that had cast a doubt on the schedule of the meeting. Speaking to agency PTI after the announcement, an Israeli government official said “We attach immense importance to our ties with India and see this meeting as very important.” On October 1st, External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj will also meet her Israeli counterpart Avigdor Lieberman.

    There are other factors that denote the shift in India’s position. To begin with, the Prime Minister will be meeting Mr. Netanyahu, but has not met with Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas who was here in New York at the same time. In the past few years, India has taken a more nuanced position on the Palestinian-Israel conflict, away from its pro-Palestine stance of the past. While India voted against Israel at the UN Human Right Council this year during the recent conflict in Gaza where more than 2,200 people were killed, for example, the government refused to condemn Israel’s actions in its statement.

    Mr. Modi’s speech at the UN also saw a departure from the past years, when the Indian speech regularly made references to the “Palestinian struggle” in the past. Even in 2013, after the Indian shift in public statements, the former Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had made a reference to the Palestinian claim on east Jerusalem as capital. ”

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/modi-to-meet-netanyahu-marks-shift-in-indian-policy/article6454837.ece

    Made for one another…both Islamophobes.

    • Larry A Singleton
      Larry A Singleton
      September 15, 2015, 8:14 pm

      That’s because they’re finally seeing the light. What an obscenity that this disciple of Arafat Hajj Husseini actually sits anywhere in the UN. Of course this is the OIC controlled UN so it’s really no surprise. People with an ounce of common decency everywhere reject the UN as representing them in any way, shape or form. It’s one of the most corrupt evil entities on the planet. UNRWA being just one example, that is totally controlled by terrorists who use the taxpayer dollars to finance genocidal Jew hating propaganda to children in UNRWA schools and stash weapons in these same schools. What a farce.

      “Islamophobes” It is to laugh. As my friend Bugs Bunny would say “What a maroon”. Read Islamophobia: Thought Crime of the Totalitarian Future by Horowitz and Spencer.

      And get yourself an education. A real one.

      Martin Kramer:
      Gaza is a place with no Israeli settlements, from which Israel has totally withdrawn to the 1967 lines, and which nonetheless has become a Hamas terror state. That’s what happens in conditions of Gazafication. So when people say that in a two-state solution, Palestinians would have a “right of return” to the West Bank and not Israel, I do not find that particularly reassuring either. Any influx of Palestinians across the Jordan poses a problem for Israel, and it is naive to dismiss it. I would like to hear how, in a two-state scenario, Gazafication of the West Bank can be prevented. I haven’t heard it yet.

      Neither have I.

      Read The Haj by Leon Uris. And ask these questions:

      What year did the nation of Palestine come into existance?
      What were its national borders and what year did it cease to exist?
      What currency did the nation of Palestine use and why is there no history of it?
      Name one leader to the “nation of Palestine” prior to Yasser Arafat.

      The Case for Israel by Alan Dershowitz.

      The Israeli Solution: A One-State Plan for Peace in the Middle East by Caroline B. Glick. READ THESE BOOKS!!!

      Subscribe to Jihad Watch and Campus Watch and the Middle East Forum/Quarterly, Family Security Matters, Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), Gatestone Institute, FrontPage Magazine, American Thinker, The Clarion Project, NGO Monitor, Cross Muslims, Palestinian Media Watch, Muhammad unveiled, Pat Condell, Religion of Peace and read Raymond Ibrahim, Andrew Harrod, Efraim Karsh, Andrew G. Bostom, Frank Gaffney, Martin Kramer, Patrick Poole, Caroline Glick, Bat Ye’or and others.

      • talknic
        talknic
        September 16, 2015, 1:56 am

        @ Larry A Singleton ” What an obscenity that this disciple of Arafat Hajj Husseini actually sits anywhere in the UN.”

        Is he in breach of International Law, the UN Charter? Israel IS UNSC Resolution 476 is one of at least EIGHT reminders of UNSC Res 252 none of which have anything to do with race or religion. They’re based on the UN Charter, International Law and the GC’s, all of which Israel obliged itself to uphold. Alas it hasn’t.

        “Of course this is the OIC controlled UN so it’s really no surprise”

        UN Statistics prove otherwise.

        “People with an ounce of common decency everywhere reject the UN as representing them in any way, shape or form. It’s one of the most corrupt evil entities on the planet. “

        How strange. Israel is a Member state, it reaps the benefits of being a Member state, including the protection of US/USNC veto preventing any action being taken for it’s breaches of the UN Charter and International Law without which the law could have been enforced decades ago. Israel also reaps the benefits of its subsidiaries like the IAEA, even though it doesn’t fully support the IAEA by signing the NPT

        “UNRWA being just one example, that is totally controlled by terrorists”

        Evidence please … thx

        “And get yourself an education. A real one”

        By reading propaganda? No thanks. Better to read from the official record the Jewish Agency and ISRAELI GOVERNMENT statements and the lies they contain https://talknic.wordpress.com/

        “Gaza is a place with no Israeli settlements, from which Israel has totally withdrawn to the 1967 lines”

        Israel is in full control of Palestinian airspace, its territorial waters, who what and when anything moves in or out of Gaza, including the crossings with Egypt (under the 2005 agreement and the Egypt Israel peace treaty) borders. It also makes military incursions into Gaza without condemnation of the UNSC for the simple reason that Israel is the Occupying Power UNSC Res 1860
        Recalling all of its relevant resolutions, including resolutions 242 (1967), 338 (1973), 1397 (2002), 1515 (2003) and 1850 (2008)
        Stressing that the Gaza Strip constitutes an integral part of the territory occupied in 1967 and will be a part of the Palestinian state,

        “So when people say that in a two-state solution, Palestinians would have a “right of return” to the West Bank and not Israel, I do not find that particularly reassuring either”

        Odd! Non-Jewish Israeli citizens have RoR to Israel. Palestinians who were not citizens of Israel do not. They have a right to return to territories NOT proclaimed as Israeli and never legally acquired by Israel. http://wp.me/pDB7k-Xk#googlemap

        “Any influx of Palestinians across the Jordan poses a problem for Israel”

        How? They wouldn’t be entering Israel

        “I would like to hear …”

        No you wouldn’t..

        “… how, in a two-state scenario, Gazafication of the West Bank can be prevented.”

        Simple, end the occupation of ALL non-Israeli territories. Accept the Arab peace initiative which gives Israel territories it has illegally acquired by war up to the 1967 cease fire lines. Remove all it’s illegal settlers beyond those lines. Israel withdrew from all territory sovereign to Egypt and bingo … peace.

        ” I haven’t heard it yet.”

        Of course. You’ve never wanted to. But you have now pal.

        “What year did the nation of Palestine come into existance?”

        Palestine’s Nationality Laws were adopted in 1925 ( Official Gazette of the Government of Palestine, No. 147, September 16, 1925, pp. 460–466 )

        “What were its national borders …”

        The borders of the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine (sans TransJordan)

        ” and what year did it cease to exist?”

        Legally it didn’t cease to exist. It was partitioned at precisely 00:0 May 15th 1948 (ME time) by virtue of the Jewish Agency accepting UNGA res 181 as “binding” and by the Israeli Government proclaiming the State of Israel’s frontiers effective .

        However, whether Palestine was or was not, or is or is not a state, is somewhat irrelevant. Until an agreement is reached between Israel and Palestine, territory outside of Israel’s proclaimed and recognized frontiers was and is quite simply not Israeli. Israel has not since proclaiming its frontiers legally acquired any further territories.

        “What currency did the nation of Palestine use”

        The Palestine pound. Which was the first currency used by Israel until August 1948

        ” and why is there no history of it?”

        You really are quite stupid

        “Name one leader to the “nation of Palestine” prior to Yasser Arafat”

        Uh? It’s been under occupation in part or in total since at least the Roman era

        “The Case for Israel by Alan Dershowitz …. The Israeli Solution: A One-State Plan for Peace in the Middle East by Caroline B. Glick. READ THESE BOOKS!!!”

        Uh? Biased speculation and opinion? Why? The official record of the Zionist Federation and its plan to colonize Palestine, the official record of the League of Nations, the LoN Mandate for Palestine especially Article 7, the official record of the Jewish Agency at the United Nations and the official record of the Israeli Government are all available to us, free

      • straightline
        straightline
        September 16, 2015, 2:21 am

        Wonderful response, talknic! You’re a class act. But I’ve no doubt the neophyte hasbarist will be back peddling the same falsehoods.

      • diasp0ra
        diasp0ra
        September 16, 2015, 6:31 am

        What year did the nation of Palestine come into existance?
        What were its national borders and what year did it cease to exist?
        What currency did the nation of Palestine use and why is there no history of it?
        Name one leader to the “nation of Palestine” prior to Yasser Arafat

        These are such idiotic questions.

        You can literally use these questions against any modern state nation. Take Italy for example, Italy only came into existence in the late 19th century. There was no such thing as an Italian back then, but only their city states and city empires. You were Sicilian, you were Venetian, etc.

        Should we call on Italy to disband because it doesn’t reach your weird ahistorical criteria?

        I wonder why you don’t use these same questions against Israel? Or are you really going to suggest that a tribal federation thousands of years ago were also an “Israel”? If that’s the case then I’m ultimately Ethiopian because hey, we all started there at some point, right?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        September 16, 2015, 12:39 pm

        “But I’ve no doubt the neophyte hasbarist will be back peddling the same falsehoods.”

        Preliminary observation tend to reinforce the contention that most Zionist comments are written during the early manic phase of a Ziocaine Syndrome episode, but before the peak, or expectorative phase. What is definitely known (at least by me) is that the episode reaches the ‘black-out’ phase, and then Ziocaine Syndrome Amnesia mercifully relieves the victim of any memory of their behavior and allows them to do it all over again!

      • Larry A Singleton
        Larry A Singleton
        September 22, 2015, 5:20 am

        “UNRWA being just one example, that is totally controlled by terrorists”
        Evidence please … thx

        Here you go:

        The UNRWA Reform Initiative (U.R.I.)
        http://israelbehindthenews.com/the-unrwa-reform-initiative/10658/
        See links in article

        The UNRWA Is Hamas (The Jewish Press)
        http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/the-unrwa-is-hamas/2014/08/07/

        UNRWA Goes to War
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaaslaZk6mw

        Camp Jihad
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbrafPTe_LQ

        Senior UN Official Accused of Aiding Hamas (United With Israel)
        http://unitedwithisrael.org/senior-un-official-accused-of-aiding-hamas/?comment_id=749513301756753

      • Larry A Singleton
        Larry A Singleton
        September 22, 2015, 5:24 am

        Israel is in full control of Palestinian airspace, its territorial waters, who what and when anything moves in or out of Gaza, including the crossings with Egypt (under the 2005 agreement and the Egypt Israel peace treaty) borders. It also makes military incursions into Gaza without condemnation of the UNSC for the simple reason that Israel is the Occupying Power UNSC Res 1860

        Gee whiz; do you think the terrorist attacks, the epidemic that were the slaughter from suicide bombings, bringing weapons and missiles into Gaza and all the rest of the crap that makes Gaza a terror state has anything to do with Israel applying these security measures?

  16. traintosiberia
    traintosiberia
    September 28, 2014, 8:08 pm

    “Delving into details of the negotiations, the Americans are quoted, “Israel presented its security needs in the West Bank: the demand was for total control on the ground…Israel would not be willing to agree to a timetable — its control would last forever.” But still, Abbas went further than the Palestinians had previously: “He agreed to a demilitarized state; he agreed to draw the border in such a way that 80 percent of the settlers would live in Israeli territory; he agreed for Israel to continue to hold onto security areas [in the Jordan Valley] for five years, and then it would be replaced by the United States…He also agreed that the Jewish neighborhoods in East Jerusalem would remain under Israeli sovereignty, and agreed for the return of Palestinian refugees to Israel to be dependent on the will of the Israeli government.”

    In return for these concessions to the Israelis, the Americans told the journalist that Abbas required the following: that the decision on future borders be the first issue negotiated and agreed on; that an end date be set for Israeli security forces to withdraw from the new Palestinian state; and that East Jerusalem be accepted as the capital of the new state. “The Israelis did not accept any of these three demands.”

    http://www.unz.com/article/secretary-of-state-john-kerry-once-was-everywhere/

    Palestine

    • eljay
      eljay
      September 29, 2014, 10:46 am

      Unless and until Abbas signs away Palestine and the rights of every Palestinian, he’s nothing more than a Jew-hating, map-wiping, into-the-sea-pushing, Iran-loving, Hamas-worshipping, Holocaust-denying, IslamoArabic anti-Semite.

  17. just
    just
    September 28, 2014, 9:17 pm

    I wish only the best possible chance for some justice and peace for the Palestinian people.

    Mr. Abbas is both frustrating and frustrated. I am frustrated, but mostly by my own ‘leaders’ and their dutiful and wrong obeisance to the GoI.

    There is more than one good doctor in the wings ready to take flight toward justice:

    Mustafa Barghouti.

    So are many others– females and males, humans of all livelihoods and professions, leaders in the cause of the restoration of the stolen human dignity of every single Palestinian.

  18. James Canning
    James Canning
    September 29, 2014, 1:26 pm

    It indeed would be a very good thing if the UNSC told Israel to get out of the West Bank, and work toward setting a date.

  19. wes
    wes
    September 29, 2014, 7:14 pm

    haaretz reported that an owl had been injured in the 3 companions war in july…..would anyone happen to know if it recovered and how it is doing.
    any infomation would be much appreciated

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      September 30, 2014, 1:32 pm

      “3 companions war”

      So it was a love-triangle, and a murder-suicide? Yup, I thought so.
      Oh, and how was it a “war”? Who declared “war”? Did Israel declare “war”?

      How can you have a “war” with territory you already illegally occupy?

  20. Mayhem
    Mayhem
    September 29, 2014, 7:42 pm

    Already Birzeit University has ended the occupation and introduced true apartheid
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/.premium-1.618007
    How we love Palestinian hypocrisy!

  21. Gene Shae
    Gene Shae
    September 29, 2014, 8:49 pm

    Using the word genocide in his speech, Abbas lost a lot of,credibility. I don’t believe he thinks the word is accurate. He is trying to pander to extremists. I doubt he will get any concessions. No port, no boat, not motor car. Not a single luxury.

    • eljay
      eljay
      September 30, 2014, 10:18 am

      >> Gene Shae: Using the word genocide in his speech, Abbas lost a lot of,credibility. I don’t believe he thinks the word is accurate. He is trying to pander to extremists. I doubt he will get any concessions. No port, no boat, not motor car. Not a single luxury.

      You’re right, Gilligan, Abbas should adopt the Zio-supremacist tactic of incessant wailing about “existential threats”. It seems to work well for the supremacist “Jewish State”.

      • Larry A Singleton
        Larry A Singleton
        September 15, 2015, 8:17 pm

        Yeah, so does terrorism work for Palestinians. Read The Case for Israel by Dershowitz. If you have the guts. Read it and refute or dispute one single chapter. And remember; he’s a Benny Morris citing Liberal. Let the hypocrisy begin.

      • diasp0ra
        diasp0ra
        September 16, 2015, 6:21 am

        @Larry

        Seriously? The case for Israel? The book is written so sloppily and in such a manner that any academic worth their salt would recoil.

        Not even going to go into the clear plagiarism and citing of historically false facts from widely disproved books.

        If this is the best you got in defense of Israel, then it’s no wonder BDS is snowballing all over the world.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      September 30, 2014, 1:34 pm

      “Using the word genocide in his speech, Abbas lost a lot of,credibility.”

      Something you will never have to worry about, Gene Shae. You couldn’t possibly lose any credibility.

  22. Justpassingby
    Justpassingby
    September 30, 2014, 7:07 am

    Right abbas like anyone belive you, you puppet!

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