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NY’s Center for Jewish History to host Ayelet ‘Little Snakes’ Shaked in conversation with Bret ‘Hiroshima’ Stephens

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This is disturbing. The Center for Jewish History is a prestigious institution in New York. It’s got gravitas. And it’s hosting the rightwing Justice Minister of Israel a month from today, in conversation with the rightwing columnist Bret Stephens. That’s right, Ayelet Shaked and Bret Stephens on September 30. Who’s going to be the devil’s advocate?

Shaked is the face of the extremist right in Israel. She opposes a Palestinian state and is famous for an appalling act in the middle of the Gaza slaughter a year ago: posting on Facebook a racist commentary by a Zionist role-model of hers, Uri Elitzur, that many interpreted as genocidal. The text said that Israel was at war with Palestine and must destroy many elements of Palestinian society, including elderly and children, who are “little snakes.”

The Palestinian people has declared war on us, and we must respond with war. Not an operation, not a slow-moving one, not low-intensity, not controlled escalation, no destruction of terror infrastructure, no targeted killings. Enough with the oblique references. This is a war. Words have meanings. This is a war. It is not a war against terror, and not a war against extremists, and not even a war against the Palestinian Authority. These too are forms of avoiding reality. This is a war between two people. Who is the enemy? The Palestinian people. Why? Ask them, they started…

[T]he morality of war (yes, there is such a thing) is founded on the assumption that there are wars in this world, and that war is not the normal state of things, and that in wars the enemy is usually an entire people, including its elderly and its women, its cities and its villages, its property and its infrastructure.

Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism. Actors in the war are those who incite in mosques, who write the murderous curricula for schools, who give shelter, who provide vehicles, and all those who honor and give them their moral support. They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there.

This is the honored guest of the Center for Jewish History in New York? Bret Stephens, by the way, has campaigned against the Iran Deal by praising the Hiroshima bombing; and two years ago, Stephens sat quietly on stage with Sheldon Adelson as Adelson called for nuking Iran– comments Stephens later defended. I suppose we may see a reprise of the lunacy and passivity show at CJH.

The invitation is another demonstration of how Zionism is destroying the Jewish IQ. The calendar of events at the center includes two other Zionistic celebrations, an October 14 event featuring Seth Siegel’s book on Israel’s water technology making the world better for everyone, and an October 15 event featuring former Harvard University President Lawrence Summers equating the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement with anti-Semitism.
The problem goes beyond an intellectual institution staging Israeli and Israel-lobby propaganda; it’s that CJH, captivated by Zionist donors, is not even offering an antidote to this propaganda. This is tragic. Why aren’t they inviting Max Blumenthal to speak? He’s a young Jew who has written the definitive account of the Gaza war, The 51-Day War: Ruin and Resistance in Gaza. He is an American journalist– not a rightwing Israeli politician — and yet there is no place for him at the Center for Jewish History? They can’t deal with his ideas, is the truth. They are too weak and cowardly to take him on. It is like when a panel of experts trashed John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt as anti-Semites from that stage eight years ago, without giving the scholars the opportunity to respond; and today Mearsheimer and Walt’s ideas are mainstreamed. So you are witnessing the destruction of any genuine intellectual debate inside Jewish institutions, because of our ideological fragility. Blumenthal will debate anyone. These upright glass-jaw curators and academics pretend that Blumenthal does not exist. And they are losing any reputation they had for integrity because young Jews are a lot smarter than this.

More on Shaked:

“The demand to give Ayelet Shaked the Justice portfolio is like giving the Fire and Rescue Services to a pyromaniac,” opposition lawmaker Nachman Shai told the Arutz Sheva news site.

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  1. piotr
    piotr
    August 30, 2015, 11:17 am

    Yes, it’s too bad. A videotape of a more adversarial panel would help satisfy my curiosity. Does Ayelet bat her eyelashes when she talks about exterminating little snakes? Does she pout when she is accused of racism? And does she believe, as a reportedly secular person, that Eretz Israel (all of it) is an eternal gift of G.d to the Jewish people?

    OTOH, what sane and a moral person would be a panel partner of Minister Shaked?

    PS. Concerning “Jewish IQ”, in the age of Trump it sounds a bit unfair. More generally, what does an institution have to do to have “gravitas”? AEI is highly cited etc., and Minister Shaket would fit there very well (although not in the department of theology and free enterprise, being secular).

    • a blah chick
      a blah chick
      August 30, 2015, 12:11 pm

      “Does Ayelet bat her eyelashes when she talks about exterminating little snakes?”

      She’s probably pretty bummed that none of the hunger strikers have died, yet, then she could have walked into Bennett’s office carrying their bloody noggins and saying “I’ve brought you their heads, my lord.”

      That has to move her up on the party list.

  2. Marnie
    Marnie
    August 30, 2015, 1:07 pm

    That link to arutz sheva was an eye opener. The comments were no big surprise, but it seems Ms. Shaked is only given this position because of the eye candy she apparently provides to horny MKs and non-Jews from America who’d love to go to Israel and be arrested in the hopes of being in her presence. Gag me.

  3. Rodneywatts
    Rodneywatts
    August 30, 2015, 1:13 pm

    “This is disturbing” –Phil Weiss. Yes it is Phil, and I think we can all imagine your feelings as you prepared this piece. Absolutely sickening. However it is not the end of the story. Some of us have faced similar situations in the past, and the fight will continue in whatever way possible– a demonstration or two could be in order?

    My boss/supervisor as a young Ph D candidate was noted for his phase ” Disturbing isn’t it?” when our results contradicted perceived understanding. Nevertheless, progress was made over, sometimes, long periods of time and prevailing ideas were replaced. There will always be obstacles to overcome–even in academia –when there are interest groups with financial and political clout who have vested interests. These experiences were also parallelled in political life and we just kept battling away.

    Of course we want justice NOW, especially for the palestinians, and indeed the security and equality for all in I/P. However all of us must just keep doing what we can and trust that justice will win in the end- as it surely will.

  4. Boomer
    Boomer
    August 30, 2015, 2:47 pm

    I don’t know whether it relates to Jewish IQ as much as to Jewish notions of ethics and justice. What, indeed, does it mean to be “a light to the nations.” As with most biblical passages, interpretations evidently differ.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_Unto_the_Nations

    • JWalters
      JWalters
      August 31, 2015, 7:42 pm

      I get the impression there are two meanings. One is being a model of justice globally. The second is being the rulers and masters of all non-Jews in “messianic times”, with justice reserved for the Chosen, and non-Jews as servants, akin to animals.

  5. Rusty Pipes
    Rusty Pipes
    August 30, 2015, 4:09 pm

    If the best that Israel can do to put a better face on its increasingly right-wing government is to put forward attractive, young spokespeople, it might grab some new eyeballs, but not necessarily the brains that are attached.

    • JWalters
      JWalters
      August 31, 2015, 7:31 pm

      And that’s most likely why they didn’t want to have her face a knowledgeable person with another perspective. She might say something like, “What is this ‘Nakba’ you keep babbling about!?”, or “That Dier Yassin story is an anti-Semetic MYTH!!!”

  6. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    August 30, 2015, 4:37 pm

    RE: “The problem goes beyond an intellectual institution staging Israeli and Israel-lobby propaganda; it’s that CJH, captivated by Zionist donors, is not even offering an antidote to this propaganda. This is tragic. Why aren’t they inviting Max Blumenthal to speak? ~ Weiss

    MY COMMENT: Perhaps they aren’t inviting Max Blumenthal to speak because they are afraid that protests might come “pouring in”* (thereby jeopardizing their jobs)! ! !

    * SEE: “Peter ‘Powder Keg’ Beinart is disinvited from gig at Atlanta Jewish book festival”, by Annie Robbins, Mondoweiss, 11/05/12

    [EXCERPTS] The Marcus Jewish Community Center of Atlanta (MJCCA) has dis-invited liberal Zionist Peter Beinart from a speaking engagement at its annual Jewish book festival, presumably because he has called for a boycott of settlement goods, and it’s causing quite a stir. Everyone from J Street to Holocaust historian Deborah Lipstadt is weighing in. The event is expected to attract over 10,000 people this year. Beinart is one of 55 authors, some best selling, listed on MJCCA’s 2012 festival brochure. His talk, named “Zionist Zeal” about his book ‘The Crisis of Zionism’, is listed on page 16, relegated to a spot alongside “Low Cal Gal” Lisa Lillian and right above Marni Davis’s “Jews and Booze”.
    The center’s president and CEO are now defending their decision to cancel Beinart’s invitation, claiming that once that brochure went out with word of Beinart’s appearance, protests came “pouring in.”
    However, just how many of the center’s 18,000 members participated in this screeching avalanche of disapproval is not information Steven Cadranel, the president of the MJCCA, is willing to disclose. Nor is he saying if any arm twisting measures were employed. After all, it’s entirely possible merely a few big donors expressed their disapproval in a way that could impact the economic future of the center and phff… and so, for the first time in the history of the festival, a scheduled writer’s invitation went kaput. . .

    SOURCE – http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/peter-powder-keg-beinart-is-disinvited-from-gig-at-atlanta-jewish-book-festival.htmlthe mic 93.1 madison

  7. Dagon
    Dagon
    August 30, 2015, 5:08 pm

    In hebrew ayelet means DOE.sorry,it sounds like ,lashonda, tamika,deandrealon.can’t make this up.ahh yes they did.her parents were trying hard .

  8. traintosiberia
    traintosiberia
    August 30, 2015, 7:20 pm

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4695440,00.html
    Can the doves do it on these two heads?

  9. Kathleen
    Kathleen
    August 30, 2015, 9:23 pm

    So much for “prestige.” Calling Palestinian children and older people “little snakes.” What a loathsome individual.

    Amazed that we have not seen more media folks going after Schumer’s no vote on the Iran deal. The man went on MSNBC’s Steve Kornacki’s Up program and said that he would “vote for what is best for the U.S.” This Dem flat out lied. Have not heard one talking head going after his vote against U.S. national security

    • turveyd
      turveyd
      August 31, 2015, 9:31 am

      Shumer, in a speech recently, referred in a similar manner to Palestinians. On top of being terrorists and pretenders to the land, he added that ‘they don’t believe in the Torah’. He really is a piece of work underneath his cosy, avuncular manner… He really enjoyed teasing Kornacki.

      • Kathleen
        Kathleen
        August 31, 2015, 5:57 pm

        So far Kornacki has not called him out on his lie “will vote for what is best for the U.S.” Kornacki went after Chris Christie with all he has and more. Became obsessive. Not the case with this much more serious decision of Schumer’s.

      • JWalters
        JWalters
        August 31, 2015, 7:52 pm

        “much more serious decision of Schumer’s.”

        Most likely the power of the Israel lobby. What else could it be? Realistically? I look forward to the day when the muzzles come off those chatterboxes at MSNBC.

  10. echinococcus
    echinococcus
    August 31, 2015, 12:52 am

    they are losing any reputation they had for integrity because young Jews are a lot smarter than this”

    May I trouble you to ask for evidence of such smartness? Seeing the 60,000 equally young Americans manning the settlements and the hundreds of thousands in pre-67 occupied territories and unknown (but not so unknown) thousands militating in the States for the Zionists, one really should try to get an idea of what the statistics for “smartness” look like. Granted, the Zionist atrocities should be turning off many; as you know, however, ISIS is recruiting very briskly thanks to beheading movies, so the end result may be surprising.

  11. RoHa
    RoHa
    August 31, 2015, 4:22 am

    “Who is the enemy? The Palestinian people. Why? Ask them, they started…”

    Yes, we all know how, at the end of the nineteenth century, the Palestinian Arabs attacked the Jews who lived in Europe and America.

  12. RobertHenryEller
    RobertHenryEller
    August 31, 2015, 8:29 am

    Ah yes, Ayalet Shaked.

    Israel’s own Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS.

    • turveyd
      turveyd
      August 31, 2015, 9:35 am

      My goodness, that brings horrible memories back! Ilsa Grese….she was pretty, too

  13. CigarGod
    CigarGod
    August 31, 2015, 9:00 am

    “Someday…and that day may never come. I will call upon you to do a service for me.”
    – Don Corleone –

  14. eljay
    eljay
    August 31, 2015, 9:29 am

    … Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism. Actors in the war are those who incite … who give shelter, who provide vehicles, and all those who honor and give them their moral support. They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. … They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there.

    And with that comment, Ms. Shaked legitimizes the destruction of every Jewish person in the world who engages in or supports the Jewish terrorism of oppressive, colonialist, expansionist and religion-supremacist “Jewish State”.

    With friends like her – and Jeff “all Jews are responsible for the actions of some Jews” B – who needs enemies?

  15. Kris
    Kris
    August 31, 2015, 10:58 am

    Ms. Shaked: “Actors in the war are those who incite … who give shelter, who provide vehicles, and all those who honor and give them their moral support. They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads.”

    She is also legitimizing attacks on every U.S. citizen who supports Israel, Jewish or not.

  16. hophmi
    hophmi
    August 31, 2015, 11:39 am

    You could display an iota of honesty and journalistic ethics and mention that she’s coming as part of an exhibition at CJH on Shmita to discuss Israel’s approach to the Shmita year, and not to discuss her political activism.

    You could also do some background research, which would enable you to learn that CJH is actually five separate institutions, one of which is Yeshiva University’s Museum, and that it’s that institution that is bringing her to speak.

    You’re not interested in seeing any antidote. You just want another platform for Max Blumenthal, who has more than enough platforms to spout his vitriol about how Jews and Nazis are the same without being given another one within the Jewish community.

    And despite what you say, Walt and Mearsheimer’s antisemitism isn’t mainstreamed, not remotely. If it were, you wouldn’t devote post after post on this blog to raising BS complaints about the New York Times.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      August 31, 2015, 1:59 pm

      “You’re not interested in seeing any antidote.”

      Hophmi, nobody doubts your antidotes on you. Maybe you can get her to write a post, after the event, saying that Shaked and Stephens didn’t say what they most plainly said?

    • echinococcus
      echinococcus
      August 31, 2015, 2:04 pm

      hophmi,

      What iota of what honesty and ethics? How is Meschita or Schemita or whatever its name relevant to the bare fact that, no matter the camouflage, Ilse the Bloodhungry Beast of the Stalag is holding a public talk with a nuclear war advocate in a venue affiliated with Organization X, seemingly a hub for this kind of events?
      All we want to know is the address, date and time.

    • JWalters
      JWalters
      August 31, 2015, 8:04 pm

      hophmi,

      You dismiss Blumenthal’s analysis by waving the word “vitriol”. You may imagine that gives you a pass from addressing his facts and logic. It does not. You are fundamentally mistaken in your approach if the goal is ascertaining the truth.

  17. Steve Grover
    Steve Grover
    August 31, 2015, 6:12 pm

    “The invitation is another demonstration of how Zionism is destroying the Jewish IQ”
    Mondoweiss and JVP attempt this kind of destruction. It’s a good thing I’m the only Jew that reads mondoweiss.

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod
      August 31, 2015, 7:58 pm

      No doubt you mean…real jew.

    • eljay
      eljay
      August 31, 2015, 8:15 pm

      || Steve Grover: … It’s a good thing I’m the only Jew that reads mondoweiss. ||

      Or so your diminished, Zio-supremacist IQ leads you to believe… :-P

    • talknic
      talknic
      August 31, 2015, 11:08 pm

      @ Steve Grover “It’s a good thing I’m the only Jew that reads mondoweiss”

      A) “the only Jew” …. you’re delusional

      B) I doubt you’re a Jew. The basic tenets of our faith forbid lying. Your IP address has shown you to lie about your whereabouts. Because of your deceit, nothing you say has any much value unless it can be indisputably proven, which in this medium requires some form of verifiable documentation.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        August 31, 2015, 11:48 pm

        No lying at all, to nobody? You’re harsh. Not even an exception for non-Federal-agent?

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      September 1, 2015, 11:02 am

      “It’s a good thing I’m the only Jew that reads mondoweiss.”

      Well, there goes the old stereotype about Jews not being maudlin drunks. Too bad, I sorta liked that one.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        September 1, 2015, 12:51 pm

        “…maudlin drunks.”
        I’ll bet there are more where Steve comes from. What an entertaining short film opp.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        September 1, 2015, 1:22 pm

        Cigar God, have you thought this through?
        I have, and it’s not possible to write a parody of the enduring Grey/Ayer hit song (from 1916’s “The Bing Boys Are Here”) without using a word I don’t like to use.
        Don’t want to give the Mods any trouble.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        September 1, 2015, 7:21 pm

        This one?

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