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Thankfully, many American liberals are coming out strongly against Donald Trump’s Islamophobia. One of them is Neera Tanden, head of the Democratic-Party linked thinktank, the Center for American Progress. She sent out a note to staff congratulating the organization for its progressive undertakings against Trump, and extolling values of equal rights and countering bigotry:

Dear Colleagues,

As we have seen a dramatic rise of Islamophobia in the country in response to Donald Trump and others, I wanted to take a moment to thank those in our national security team, religion team, immigration team, the war room, government affairs, and of course, Think Progress, who have been leading the response within the progressive movement.  I’m proud that our staff, building on work we’ve done over years on the issue of Islamophobia, have done so much – from issue briefs, articles, talking points, outreach – to articulate why these attacks run directly counter to the ideals of America.  We are a country made afresh each generation by immigrants from around the world, with no set religion, but perhaps only a civic religion of belief in equality amongst people, dignity, fairness and freedom.

I know there is a lot of hate in the public debate right now.  It is truly alarming.  I am proud to work at an institution that stands against it, alongside all of you.  I know we all stand in solidarity with those who are subject to these attacks.

Thank you for all you do to make progress.  And to fight back against voices of intolerance.

Neera

Let’s not forget that a month ago Tanden feted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with a giggling “conversation” at the same Center for American Progress, which has censored ThinkProgress writers who criticized Israel. Tanden is hardly alone: she is one of many Democrats/liberals who have denounced Trump’s intolerance but have no problem with Israel’s ongoing, chronic, deep-seated discrimination against Palestinians.

Americans need to understand that Israel would not exist as the “Jewish state” if it weren’t for a highly-discriminatory immigration policy: Muslims are unwelcome there at the borders today, and were pushed out of the way in the 100s of 1000s so as to establish the state.

Here are two other examples of Israel’s deep discrimination against Muslims that Americans would never tolerate:

–The army is overwhelmingly Jewish. While there are also Israeli Druze in uniform, scarcely any Palestinian Muslims serve in Israel’s military. In sharp contrast to most Jewish teens, they are not called to serve, and they don’t. The army is reminiscent of the US army before it was desegregated in 1948 — even worse, because at least then there were blacks in U.S. uniform, albeit separate.

–The governing coalitions in Israel are built out of Jewish parties only. Arab parties are almost never invited into government coalitions– I believe that it happened one time, in the 1990s. This week the hugely impressive Ayman Odeh, a Palestinian member of the Israeli parliament, is touring the United States. I heard him speak. An awesome man with tremendous gravitas, built to lead. But Odeh can never be prime minister in Israel because of this discrimination. The practice recalls the Jim-Crow-affiliated Democratic Party that the Mississippi Freedom Democrats tried to liberate in 1964.

When President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, he said boldly that he was giving up the south to the Republican Party. He was right; and it was worth it.

Today Neera Tanden’s Democratic Party is also owned on a key foreign policy question by a Jim Crow faction, the Israel lobby, but the Party’s own liberal base is rebelling against that ownership. The Democratic base wants Palestinians and Muslims to have basic civil rights in Israel and Palestine; and it is becoming restless inside the party, and our country too. Tanden’s glaring hypocrisy should advance that movement.

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  1. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    December 12, 2015, 5:34 pm

    RE: “How long can Democrats denounce Trump and embrace Netanyahu?”

    ANSWER: For as long as it keeps the donations/contributions coming into the Democrats’ coffers!
    It ain’t rocket science, Phil.

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      December 13, 2015, 5:11 pm

      Remember when you watched the DNC in action on primetime tv on the Jerusalem issue in their party platform? That event was not rocket science either. If I were a democrat I would have been humiliated, embarrassed, frustrated. The unknown dumper lady came out, whispered to the guy with the gavel, and down came the hammer. Main media didn’t even bother to discuss it, if memory serves.

      • Emory Riddle
        Emory Riddle
        December 14, 2015, 5:15 pm

        Delegates clearly and loudly voted down the platform change to name Jerusalem the undivided capital of Israel. Three times.

        But Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, taking instructions from some handler (AIPAC rep?), declared the motion passed.

        Around the same time the GOP was breaking its own rules by refusing to seat Rand Paul’s delegates.

        Classic democracy in action from both parties.

        Right up there with the Dems threatening to have Ralph Nader arrested if he even sat in the audience of the Dem Convention debates in Boston in 2004.

  2. Atlantaiconoclast
    Atlantaiconoclast
    December 12, 2015, 9:04 pm

    A very long time, for there are no signs that the MSM is ready to explain to the American public that Israel has a stricter religious/ethnic based test for its immigration policy than the one Trump advocates for US immigration policy. And it shows no interest in pointing out that Israel does not recognize interfaith, NOR Gay marriage.

    And too many liberal American Jews/progressive Democratic Party politicians seem to have one standard for immigration to the US and another for Israel.

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      December 13, 2015, 5:21 pm

      I think the argument is US is not surrounded by peoples who want to snuff it out at first opportunity. Oceans of difference, they’d tell you.

      • Atlantaiconoclast
        Atlantaiconoclast
        December 13, 2015, 11:10 pm

        Actually, I think progressives are too eager to overlook understandable fears among Middle Americans about waves of immigration from third world nations. Who enjoys having their culture changed very fast as a result of immigration? I suspect if the affluent people who claim to support immigration had to live in the same neighborhood as the immigrants, they wouldn’t speak so nicely of them. Middle and lower class people are the ones who have to face the consequences of excessive migration to the US. [..] Israelis should not have set down roots in a land that was SOOOOO dangerous, as in, a land in which people rightfully don’t take too kindly to being ethnically cleansed from their own homeland.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        December 14, 2015, 8:21 am

        This is not just an American phenomenon. The fashionable elites in other countries have the same attitude. Nor is it merely overlooking the fears. The very legitimacy of the fears is denied. The only fear that is acknowledged is that of migrants taking jobs. There are other, genuine, concerns. Will the migrants be loyal to their new country? Will they learn the language and the customs, and obey the laws? Will they become part of the society, or set themselves up as a separate group? Will they support, or subvert, or. like the Zionists, take over?

        But these are never recognized by the elite, and, if someone mentions those concerns, the immediate response is to lambast the doubter with accusations of xenophobia, bigotry, and racism. Scorn is poured on those who suggest that it is the immigrant who has the duty to adapt to the society he enters, rather than the natives who must adapt to the immigrant. People who want social solidarity, integration, and harmony are told to “embrace multiculturalism ” and “celebrate diversity”. (But never told why these are good things.)

        After years of this sort of abuse, it is no surprise to me that a politician (even one as repulsive as Trump) who seems to take the concerns seriously will get considerable support from ordinary people.

      • December 14, 2015, 9:23 am

        Iconoclast and Roha, both of you a spewing nationalist hogwash to justify racism and xenophobia towards immigrants who are just looking for a safe refuge for them and their families. In addition, no one really wants to move to another country, foreign and unwelcoming, while uprooting themselves from their homeland just to make things difficult for the racists in the country they are moving to.

        That being said, there is a difference between immigration and invasion, the latter involving undue aggression and intent to destroy, subjugate or wholly supplant the native population through violence and use of force. Now this is something that should be condemned and fought against, never peaceful, voluntary immigration. Examples of which are the white invasion of the Americas and ANZAC countries and European Zionists invasion of Palestine. All thoroughly evil deeds that are rendering all kinds of misfortune and suffering to the native populations of these lands with no end in sight.

      • Atlantaiconoclast
        Atlantaiconoclast
        December 14, 2015, 11:10 am

        a4tech, You are resorting to ad hominem attack, which is par for the course for people who want to keep their head in the sand about the real life difficulties that massive immigration brings to a a society. And I don’t think that ALL are simply looking for safety. I don’t even blame the immigrant who comes here for mostly economic reasons. I blame elites who never have to face the consequences because their children go to private school, and because they live in communities which immigrants can’t afford.

        Finally, while I don’t deny that American settlers often did act with agression, you shouldn’t pretend that the Native Americans were open borders advocates. They too fought with passion to keep out those not like them.

      • December 14, 2015, 12:57 pm

        I still don’t get your problem with immigration. What exactly is wrong with sharing schools and neighbourhood with immigrants? They care for education just as much you, and they possess the need to be part of a healthy, positive community as you do. Why do you assume they will be a scourge to your otherwise idealic lifestyle?

        Plus, over a few generations, they will fuse into the existing class structure and move into different living and working environment based on their class, therefore the elite will also have to deal with the newcomers, just like the poor and middle class, granted they are not heavily discriminated against institutionally like the POC have always been subjected to in this country.

        Seriously, what you wrote contain heavy racist and xenophobic undertones, and I suggest you open your mind a bit on immigration and the ever evolving state of human civilization. Not to mention the blatant Native genocide denial in your last paragraph, what are you doing moderator?

      • JWalters
        JWalters
        December 14, 2015, 5:49 pm

        On NPR’s To the Point today one person reported on extreme anger by white American housing construction workers at their huge loss of jobs to immigrant Hispanic construction workers. Ironically, these people don’t realize it’s the corporate elite who want these cheap workers, and want to keep them illegal so they’ll stay cheap. They are completely suckered by the Republicans in Congress who point the blame at the Hispanics, distracting attention from the financial backers of those very Republicans, who are inducing them into the country and hiring them. Chris Matthews occasionally alludes to this, but apparently MSNBC’s owners have decreed it’s off-limits for actual discussion, despite how obvious it is.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 14, 2015, 8:29 pm

        “I suggest you open your mind a bit on immigration and the ever evolving state of human civilization.”

        Yeah, you guys! Open up yer darn minds!
        Here, let “a4tech” explain the “ever evolving state of human civilization”! You tell ’em, “a4tech”:

        “There isnt some factory in the sky that continuously develops and build brand new souls and identity everytime a baby is born or to replace dead ones. People now are just the newer cells, replacing the old ones through sexual reproduction. They are still the same cells.
        This is why time doesnt have any impact on past policies and atrocities.”
        “a4tech”
        – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/a4tech?keyword=RoHa#sthash.wsaXewPR.dpuf

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 14, 2015, 9:50 pm

        “People now are just the newer cells, replacing the old ones through sexual reproduction. They are still the same cells.”

        But cells reproduce by…Oh, no, I see what the problem is, but it’s certainly not my job to solve it.
        I’ll let the distinguished health educator Jewel Akens do it.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 14, 2015, 10:01 pm

        “Finally, while I don’t deny that American settlers often did act with agression, you shouldn’t pretend that the Native Americans were open borders advocates. They too fought with passion to keep out those not like them. “

        Weeel, by the time anything which could be even faintly called “American” came along, in fact for a good 150 years previously, the Native Americans of both (what we now call) North and South America had experience of Europeans. They knew who the fuck they were dealing with, thank you.
        And if nothing else, remember, diseases for which they had little resistance were, inadvertently, brought in by the Europeans, ravaging the Native Americans. That’ll make you leery, even if you don’t understand the vector, wouldn’t you say?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 15, 2015, 12:19 am

        “Seriously, what you wrote contain heavy racist and xenophobic undertones…”

        “RoHa”, do you remember when “a4tech” advised you on racism and xenophobia concerning a possible marital outcome in your family?

        “…bearing two identies is a load too great for humans. The direction of the discrimination would be a matter of probabilities. The elder might grow up embracing the Samoan side more, while vice versa for the younger. Eventually though, over multiple generations, the family will be split back to its constituent forms, one entirely Chinese and one entirely Samoan. – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/profile/a4tech?keyword=Chinese#sthash.PmOqr7ow.dpuf

        “Oh let me tell you ’bout the birds and the bees, and the flowers and the trees…” Pleasant little song.

  3. WH
    WH
    December 13, 2015, 4:28 am

    “The army is overwhelmingly Jewish. While there are also Israeli Druze in uniform, scarcely any Palestinian Muslims serve in Israel’s military.”

    I don’t think this point really fits into an argument about equal opportunities, because how many Palestinians would want to be a part of the army that oppresses and kills them? Compulsory service for Palestinians would be coerced collaboration, and I don’t think having more of them in the IDF would change its policies.

    • Stephen Shenfield
      Stephen Shenfield
      December 14, 2015, 12:48 pm

      Druze, Bedouin, and Circassians serve in the IDF. The Druze have their own religion, but Bedouin and Circassians are Moslems. Druze and Bedouin, though not Circassians, surely count as Palestinians.

      Many Palestinians also assist the IDF as civilian employees. The bulldozers that demolish Palestinian homes are often driven by Palestinians. Palestinians build the settlements. They do it because they have to make a living somehow. As Israeli policy plays a big part in limiting the economic opportunities open to Palestinians that too can be considered coerced collaboration.

      • gamal
        gamal
        December 14, 2015, 12:50 pm

        I know a blond blue eyed Circassian who always calls himself a Palestinian.

      • Stephen Shenfield
        Stephen Shenfield
        December 14, 2015, 2:26 pm

        There are two Circassian villages in Israel. The inhabitants of one village traditionally show loyalty to the State and send their young men to the IDF. The inhabitants of the other village support the Palestinian side in the conflict. Their young men do not serve in the IDF. Whether they actually call themselves Palestinians I don’t know.

      • lysias
        lysias
        December 14, 2015, 3:14 pm

        I wonder how successful IDF recruiting among Bedouins has been since the IDF started expelling Bedouins from their villages.

      • WH
        WH
        December 15, 2015, 4:09 am

        I believe these ethnic distinctions have been emphasized by the Zionists as part of their ‘divide and rule’ strategy. The majority opinion among self-identifying Palestinians is clearly that serving in the IDF is collaboration.

        But this doesn’t affect my point about Phil’s point, which is that employment in the oppressor army is not a desirable thing for the oppressed.

  4. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    December 13, 2015, 9:53 am

    @Atlantaiconoclast
    “Israel does not recognize interfaith, NOR Gay marriage”

    I believe that the state of Israel in order to preserve its “Western Democratic” credentials actually does recognize interfaith marriages. They are on my understanding however not recognized by the Rabbinate and there are extreme right wing Jewish groups in Israel such as Lehava which actively try to prevent or disrupt mixed marriage ceremonies.

    Whatever the permutations one thing remains abundantly clear – Israel has now buried itself in a very deep delusional hole from which it will not retreat and a mainstay of that delusion is that it must remain a pure Aryan type Jewish entity. So overt and covert mechanisms to prevent assimilation are the order of the day. The right wing freaks who are running the show quite simply ignore the fact that 20% of the entity`s population are non Jewish and OMG even worse are Muslims and that interfaith marriages appear to be on the increase in Israel. What they appear unable to ignore and what is really causing them to wet the bed at night is the growth of interfaith marriages and assimilation within the US Jewish community – now that could very soon become a major Achilles Heel for the Israel Firsters there. On can only hope sooner rather than later.

  5. lysias
    lysias
    December 14, 2015, 10:59 am

    Look at what Trump is saying about Syria: Politico: Trump: Hillary’s killed ‘hundreds of thousands’:

    Donald Trump seemingly laid fault for the rise of ISIL and the Syrian civil war directly at the feet of Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton on Sunday, claiming the former secretary of state “killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity.”

    Trump, appearing on “Fox News Sunday,” shocked host Chris Wallace with his comments.

    “She is the one that caused all this problem with her stupid policies,” he said. “You look at what she did with Libya, what she did with Syria. Look at Egypt, what happened with Egypt, a total mess. They don’t back — we don’t back any of our allies. You look, she was truly, if not ‘the,’ one of the worst secretary of states in the history of the country. She talks about me being dangerous. She’s killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity.”

  6. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    December 14, 2015, 11:46 am

    @Atlanticonaclast
    You are correct that it does not recognize interfaith marriages ( ie between Jews and non Jews) in Israel but it does I believe recognize interfaith marriages including between Jews and non Jews conducted outside Israel ( with the non Jew if a Palestinian not being allowed to immigrate into the country surprise surprise ) and of course it is “happy” I believe to recognize marriages in Israel between Muslims and Christians. Whatever the permutations and they are many I believe that between us we have re – enforced the point that Israel is a shitty little pseudo Aryan cult backwater. I am no Anthropologist but is it possible that a significant element in the freaky Israeli Zionist psyche may be down to inbreeding? I believe that non assimilation was an absolute priority in the Third Reich but with a much larger population and additional gene pools available from the conquered Aryan nations then this would not have been a problem? However with the Land of Creation`s tiny population and with no help available from those pesky young American assimilators who are polluting the only alternative gene pool, the outlook is bleak for today`s Zion failing a biblical event.

    All the qualitative military edge that US taxpayer money can buy for the Zionists will not save them from basic demographic realities

  7. Scott
    Scott
    December 14, 2015, 12:48 pm

    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/195446/trump-and-the-joys-of-hatred

    Here’s a piece from Paul Berman at Tablet likening Trump’s voters to “stupid peasants” and “losers” who don’t realize that mass immigration and globalization is good for them.

  8. MaxNarr
    MaxNarr
    December 14, 2015, 12:56 pm

    There are more hate crimes against Jews in this country. Why are you equating Donald Trump to the Prime Minister of Israel? What are you smoking? You are mad that Arab parties aren’t in the coalition? That’s democracy! Many small and extreme parties are not invited.

    Ok so now you want Arabs to join the IDF? You guys are high on cocaine.

    • eljay
      eljay
      December 14, 2015, 1:31 pm

      || MaxNarr: … Ok so now you want Arabs to join the IDF? … ||

      I wouldn’t let just any old “Arabs” join the IDF, but there’s no reason – other than Zio-supremacism – that non-Jewish Israelis should be barred from serving in their country’s military.

      || … You guys are high on cocaine. ||

      Not nearly as high as you Zio-supremacists are on Ziocaine.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 15, 2015, 12:09 pm

        I wish you guys would give “MaxNarr” a little room, a little space. He’s in the running for a “Nettie” award for “longest continuous Zionist hysteria attack in a comment section”. One more good outburst’ll put him over the top. Let the man work!

      • eljay
        eljay
        December 15, 2015, 2:07 pm

        || Mooser: I wish you guys would give “MaxNarr” a little room, a little space. He’s in the running for a “Nettie” award … Let the man work! ||

        You’re right: With JeffB out of the running*, MaxNarr has a good shot at the title.
        ___________________________
        (*Is there a fresh grave out there somewhere that Max isn’t telling us about?!)

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 15, 2015, 2:39 pm

        “I follow all the commenting guidelines”

        And ol’ MaxNarr is ready to go to work to see we do, too:

        “Annie, I would love to volunteer, and I could recruit some colleagues to log ALL incitement to murder Jews and increase violence against Jews that is spouted on this website. Can I have your commitment that you will remove ALL incitement and encouragement of violence on this website? I have logs of murderous incitement on Mondoweiss going back to 2010 and I could provide you a first dump of comments to start. I would be happy to help moderate against incitement to murder Jews on this hate-site.”

    • Kris
      Kris
      December 14, 2015, 8:02 pm

      Slightly off topic, MaxNarr, but since you’re around today, maybe you could address this:

      MaxNarr on November 28, 2015, 8:45 pm : “Breaking the Silence has already been debunked. Next.” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/11/killed-israeli-veteran#comment-812557

      You haven’t yet provided your sources for this information, and as far as I can discover, your statement is untrue, and Breaking the Silence has NOT been debunked.

      Here’s a new article about Breaking the Silence, which addresses your claim:

      “Why do so many Israelis hate Breaking the Silence?” ” From the article:

      … But let’s take a look at the accusations against Breaking the Silence one by one:

      The first claim, which in my mind is the most important and most critical accusation to refute, is that Breaking the Silence is not credible. The organization’s critics come up with all sorts of reasons why the organization isn’t credible, but there is one rebuttal that is awfully difficult to refute: In the 11 years that Breaking the Silence has collected and published testimonies, there has not been one instance in which a serious error, or a fabrication, has been found in their published testimonies.

      That is no insignificant point. That needs to be the heart of the debate. An organization that publishes hundrds of testimonies, which works with more than 1,000 soldiers, which has dealt with very complicated subject matter for 11 years — not a single fabricated published testimony has ever been found. No court of law in any land can boast of such a record. And that is despite a number of attempts to fool the organization by giving them false testimonies. Their researchers and fact-checkers seem to have a perfect record of catching fabrications before publication.

      That astounding success is the result of the massive investment Breaking the Silence makes in every single testimony. As the organization’s director of research has written here in the past, every testimony that a soldier or former soldier gives is fact-checked, the background of the incident or testimony is verified along with the identity of the testifier him or herself (and that they are not an aspiring politician looking to make a name for himself), and then the entire testimony is corroborated with any available information — both from other soldiers’ testimonies and open source information. Some of the most hair-raising testimonies collected by Breaking the Silence were never published because the organization could not independently corroborate them. Just imagine if journalists who published attack pieces on the organization applied their strict verification standards to their own work and the malicious things that are said about it…. http://972mag.com/why-do-so-many-israelis-hate-breaking-the-silence/114763/

      Did you get that, Max? “An organization that publishes hundrds of testimonies, which works with more than 1,000 soldiers, which has dealt with very complicated subject matter for 11 years — not a single fabricated published testimony has ever been found.”

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        December 15, 2015, 11:49 am

        Likud member oren hazan tried to scam breaking the silence and was busted in the process. But then what do you expect from a deputy speaker accused of pimping and meth dealing. I would do a link but annoying on my phone to manage that. Fat fingers lol

      • annie
        annie
        December 15, 2015, 4:27 pm

        I would do a link but annoying on my phone to manage that.

        this ? http://www.timesofisrael.com/likud-mk-lies-to-lefty-ngo-in-attempt-to-embarrass-it/

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        December 15, 2015, 4:40 pm

        @annie

        Yes, thank you very much. New tech, old geezer.

      • Kris
        Kris
        December 15, 2015, 5:10 pm

        Thanks for the link http://www.timesofisrael.com/likud-mk-lies-to-lefty-ngo-in-attempt-to-embarrass-it/ , annie. From the Times of Israel article:

        Freshman Likud party MK Oren Hazan was accused Wednesday of attempting to embarrass an Israeli left-wing NGO by providing it with false testimony detailing fictitious human rights abuses committed by IDF soldiers in the Gaza Strip.

        Hazan apparently acted in hope that the fake attestation would be published and thus cast serious doubt on the organization’s credibility.

        The article goes on to detail Hazan’s deeds, and ends with this, about his father:

        Yehiel Hazan was convicted of forgery, fraud and breach of trust after double-voting in the Knesset in 2003 and attempting to cover up the evidence. He was sentenced to four months of community service and a six-month suspended prison term.

        Have to say I’m stunned by the harsh sentence for this crooked politician: “four months of community service and a six-month suspended prison term!”

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        December 15, 2015, 5:58 pm

        “New tech, old geezer.”

        Ha! At least you have an idea of how to do it. Where phones are concerned, I am only comfortable with dial phones. In black Bakelite, of course. SWMBO keeps urging me to buy a smart phone. I tell her that the “simple” mobile I have is too smart for me.

        (When my son was about eight, he was being given a placement test in Japanese. Part of the test involved showing him pictures and asking him to describe the items portrayed. The tester showed him a picture of a dial phone. He looked at it blankly, and then said (in Japanese, of course) “Is it some sort of clock?”
        The tester realised that his pictures were a bit out of date, and said, “No, actually it’s an old style telephone.”
        My son then astonished everyone by saying,”I thought that old phones had a handle on the side, and you had to turn that to make a call.”
        Somehow he had seen (on TV, probably) those very old phones, but not dial phones.

        Mind you, a few years ago I had to teach some university students how to use a VCR.))

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      December 15, 2015, 2:02 am

      I can’t understand why your posts continue to pass moderation. You’ve proven yourself to be nothing but a lying, slandering, chickenshit SOB zionist, in desperate need of having his lawn mowed.

      • MaxNarr
        MaxNarr
        December 15, 2015, 1:02 pm

        Marnie,

        Please do not make personal attacks. What do you mean by “lawn mowed”

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        December 15, 2015, 3:26 pm

        “Please do not make personal attacks. What do you mean by “lawn mowed”?

        Gee, “MaxNarr” I think some yard-work might be in order. Your you-trees need work. So man the ‘elm, “Max” and turn over a new leaf. You’re not opening a branch office, just sawing off the limb you sit on.
        Maybe you just need a bole.

      • annie
        annie
        December 15, 2015, 4:34 pm

        Gee, “MaxNarr” I think some yard-work might be in order.

        i agree — gaza style — metaphorically of course. the ol ‘off with his head’! if i had my druthers anyway. ;)

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        December 15, 2015, 11:59 pm

        You don’t meet the qualifications for having suffered a personal attack. Annnnyyyywayyy – your lawn is in desperate need of permanent borders; LET THE MOWING COMMENCE!

    • Theo
      Theo
      December 15, 2015, 8:30 am

      MaxNarr

      With your comments you keep earning your last name, look it up in a german dictionary.

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        December 16, 2015, 2:45 am

        +1 Theo!

      • Marnie
        Marnie
        December 16, 2015, 4:01 am

        Also Theo, I have to wonder about someone who would choose to call himself a fool or dumkopf. Is he telling us “pay me no mind, I’m a damn fool!” Maybe we should accommodate him as he seems to be begging.

  9. lysias
    lysias
    December 14, 2015, 3:19 pm

    The Hill: Trump hits new high in poll:

    Donald Trump has crossed the 40 percent threshold in a new national poll, giving the Republican presidential candidate the largest lead he’s held in any survey so far.

    A Monmouth University poll released Monday found Trump taking 41 percent support and opening up a 27-point lead over the next closest contender ahead of Tuesday night’s Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas.

    Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is a distant second place, taking 14 percent, followed by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) at 10 percent and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson at 9 percent.

    The rest of the Republican field barely registers in the poll, with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Ohio Gov. John Kasich taking 3 percent support each, and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, businesswoman Carly Fiorina, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) each taking 2 percent.

    The poll was conducted between Dec. 10 and Dec. 13, in the days after Trump made his controversial call to ban Muslims from entering the United States.

    Trump isn’t going away anytime soon.

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