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Hillary Clinton’s campaign against Donald Trump is unwinnable.

Even if she gets enough votes in the right states in November, the former Secretary of State will take on the job of uniting a country where millions of people, both left and right, believe that she should be in jail. Latest polls show that she has about a fifty percent chance of beating Donald Trump.

I learned to walk, talk and breathe as a tiny baby in Washington D.C., so let me tell you what is going on. The Clintons and their Foundation run the biggest futures market for favors in the nation’s capital. There are people who have been holding onto Clinton Favor Bonds for thirty years, waiting for them to mature. Many were hoping they could call in or cash in favors from the Clintons in 2008. That didn’t work out. Now, the Clintons owe even more people and even more people owe the Clintons, and the only way for them to settle this byzantine network of handshakes is for Hillary to become president. If she had had to run against a low-energy guy like Jeb, she would’ve mopped the floor with him. But this might not have been her year to make that futures market worth anything.

What’s terrifying is that the Washington Democrats don’t understand how deeply fucked they are this year. One doesn’t need to look any farther than to the Washington Post, a venerable Potomac River valley news institution, Pulitzer-winning pride of the Chesapeake Bay Watershed, to understand how inaccurate reports from the field are metastasizing into one big ass-covering festival on K-Street.

The title of the article was “How Clinton and Sanders Avoided a Broken Convention.” The article comes from exclusively anonymous sources in the Clinton and Sanders campaigns, but what the Sanders and Clinton “aides” and “advisers” were feeding the Post was just meaningless, feel good garbage that had zero relation to what I heard from exhausted Sanders delegates, who’d come to Philadelphia with idealistic ambitions about truth, justice and democracy and found themselves thrust into puppy kicking politics.

“The Clinton people wanted to use us as a piggy bank,” said Jon Schnitzer, a Sanders delegate from California. “They said ‘Oh, now you can fundraise for us!’”

But don’t listen to that human with an actual name, who is now my Facebook friend, listen to unnamed sources, the Washington Post would tell you. These people’s jobs rely on Washington believing that they have their shit together, when every indication from the convention was that they absolutely do not.

“Two campaigns that had been through a bruising primary season pulled together and orchestrated a week relatively free of public controversy,” the Post declares.

Look at the keywords in that sentence “orchestrated” and “public.” That orchestration involved the systematic suppression of anti-Hillary flags and posters and signs, and even ones dedicated to “Palestinian human rights.”

The Clinton “whips” (people in the stands who order delegates around) confiscated Bernie signs from Bernie delegates, and replaced them with Hillary signs that the delegates defaced to say “Liar” and “Stronger Together” posters marked up to read “Stop Her.”

It wasn’t that they were disappointed that Sanders didn’t get the electoral votes necessary to “clinch” the nomination, it’s that they felt the process was rigged against them. And when they came to Philadelphia, their experience there only amplified that feeling. Many left with a determination to stay on in politics, but with significant portions turning to Dr. Jill Stein in the Green Party, who made passionate appeals to dissident Sanders delegates to join her.

One Iowa Sanders delegate, Daniel Clark, now has Stein as his Facebook profile. Why the Washington Post didn’t talk to people who were prepared to give their names is beyond me, but maybe it has something to do with the ethos of “omerta” that permeates political parties.

It was up against this God-like power that the Sanders Democrats arrived in Philadelphia. They made lots of Facebook friends, even among some Clinton delegates, but many left deeply alienated from the Democratic party. Even if that doesn’t count as “public controversy,” but it still does matter, even if Washington isn’t waking up on Monday, today, to read about it.

I posted this Washington Post story on my Facebook wall and tagged a number of Sanders delegates to get their take. The comments I received within seconds were a dozen photos of anti-Clinton signs held up by disgruntled Bernie delegates, and then Clinton attempts to cover them up, even bringing out people just to hold American flags in front of protest placards.

At one point, the Oregon and Washington delegates started chanting “No More War” to which Democratic party loyalists responded “Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!” This is from multiple sources who were gracious enough to give me their names despite the delicate nature of American politics, or whatever genteel, mint-julep-ass sipping excuse worked on the Washington Post editorial board.

“There was dissent the whole time,” said Sitina Gutierrez, 38, a Bernie delegate from Texas. “There were some of course that went along with the program for self serving reasons and some just because but it was a bad attempt at forced Unity no doubt!”

On Thursday, I had met Gutierrez as she left the Wells Fargo Arena with her credentials bearing the “I Support Palestinian Human Rights” sticker popular with Palestinian rights activists in the hall.  What happened to her is the reason “mind boggling” is a descriptive term.

Sitina Gutierrez, a Texas Bernie delegate, and supporters convene after the convention on Thursday. (Photo: Wilson Dizard)

Sitina Gutierrez, a Texas Bernie delegate, and supporters convene after the convention on Thursday. (Photo: Wilson Dizard)

“Somebody, a Clinton supporter, told me to take my sign down because it’s offensive,” the Texas delegate told me. “I asked her why are Palestinian rights offensive to her and she said ‘because I am for American rights.'”

And the coercive tactics were clear to the youngest Sanders delegates, too. Giselle Herzfeld, 19, gave a grim description of what happened in the Facebook comment thread.

“They instructed what I call “censorship police” to find protesters and instruct people nearby to cover us up with signs. They coordinated patriotic chants to drown out our calls for peace and justice. They filled our empty seats with actors,” Herzfeld said. “Their unity is a lie.”

For some, it was a deeply disturbing process.

“Our chants of ‘No More War’ drowned out by ‘Hillary, Hillary, Hillary’ will forever haunt me,” said Clark.

I mentioned to Herzfeld that a delegate had hoisted a Palestinian flag only to see security quickly cart him away. That’s something that only happens at Trump rallies, one would think. But no. Clinton rallies see the same thing. The pattern is disturbing.

Herzfeld had seen a completely different incident of attempted protest.

“I noticed that a lot of people were protesting Israel, and getting almost no press for it,” she told me.

“In the convention, I was disturbed when I saw a person by the stage with a large banner protesting Israel’s treatment of Palestine get completely covered by Hillary signs in a matter of seconds. There were what I call ‘censorship police’ in yellow vests whose entire job was basically hiding protests from the media. It terrified me, as a protester inside the convention, seeing the lengths they would go to silence us.”

What Clinton should remember is that delegates like Herzfeld and Clark have lots of politically active friends across the country, the world, even, and in their own home towns and states. These friends they can reach through Facebook with their dissident Stein sympathies. That’s a messaging problem Clinton can’t even quantify.  Or just broadcasting their renewed distaste for Clinton tactics that multiple Sanders delegates described as “Orwellian.”

“We were treated like children,” wrote Georgia Bernie delegate Julie Wangari Kisaka, 32, who I met after all the delegates left on Thursday evening.

(Image: Carlos Latuff)

(Image: Carlos Latuff)

The Democratic National Committee “continuously tried to silence our voices. They tried to bully us, under the assumption that we would all just fall in line. We were called crazy, and some of us, including myself, were physically attacked. They tried to intimidate us, but their attempts only fired us up more. Even when it felt like the world was against us, we did not give in. We refused to accept the status quo. We continued through the struggle. We fought with all of our hearts. We stood up and fought back.”

That’s a Facebook post that’s gotten 58 likes from genuine human beings. Those aren’t part of some paid astro-turf social media campaign. They come from people who still believe America is better than favors-for-favors, fond-but-not-in-love, pig-in-a-cage-on-antibiotics politics as usual that is being propped up as the only bulwark against Trump’s “restore law and order” message. It might not work.

But that doesn’t matter to people who have stock in the Clintons’ favors futures market. What matters to them is that they did their share to help Hillary this year, and aren’t on the Clinton’s shitlist. Even if Clinton cannot win the general election, they plunked down their favor chips, like favorable primary coverage or failing to cover the Sanders delegate walkout. They’re OK.

But those are the folks who are rich enough to escape the wrath of a Trump presidency. They can leave the country, or buy a new passport, if they are some of Clinton’s wealthiest political clients. But for millions of other Americans there is no helicopter ride off the roof of the Establishment embassy as the forces of Trumpism close in on the city, promising revenge and jail or libel suits or “worse” to their enemies, the “cuckservatives” and other nonbelievers.

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  1. wondering jew
    wondering jew
    August 1, 2016, 2:26 pm

    They yelled “Dump the Hump” at Humphrey in 68, elected richard nixon and the rest is history, as they say, and wilson dizard wants more of the same. (or doesn’t want the same and imagines that a personality transplant by Hillary for the course of four days would have attracted disaffected Sanders supporters, like bees to honey. Unlikely.)

    The polls say Hillary got a bump from her convention and it
    was her convention. You win the nomination and the show is yours. true democracy disagrees, i hear you and admire your purity. There’s plenty to hate about Clinton and suppression of free speech, I hear you. But the convention was unified enough to give Hillary a boost among independents and that was the goal.

    If hillary loses the election, then woe to all of us. It will not be the end of america, but it will not be pretty. If hillary loses the election there will be plenty of blame to go around and if ms. stein wins enough votes in some key state to give that state’s electoral college votes to the Donald, then you will be able to say, I told you so.

    if hillary wins, the left and the right will oppose her from day one, unless, the dems can win a majority in both houses and thus the elimination of deadlock will excite possibility. but the odds are slim on that and divided government is the safest bet and thus hillary will be opposed from the right and from the left and the trump fever and the symptom of america’s deep trouble will persist even after trump himself is defeated.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      August 1, 2016, 3:27 pm

      “They yelled “Dump the Hump” at Humphrey in 68,”

      And Trump rhymes with “Hump”! Well, there you go, “Yonah”! You have just got to keep praying and hoping “the black vote” elects Hillary!

  2. MHughes976
    MHughes976
    August 1, 2016, 3:40 pm

    You’re right, I think, Yonah, partly for the reason that Trump’s campaign now seems to stand or fall by Islamophobia, as has emerged starkly from his confrontation with the Gold Star mother. He needs to be opposed by all practical means.

    • RoHa
      RoHa
      August 2, 2016, 12:11 am

      Rare that I disagree with you, MHughes, but I will reiterate that, while being rude to Muslims is not nice, bombing them to oblivion is downright nasty.

      Trump does not seem too interested in continuing and extending America’s wars.

      Hillary has form.

      • Theo
        Theo
        August 6, 2016, 11:08 am

        My sentiment!
        Obwohl I cannot stop shaking my head watching the stupid things Trump says, word are always less dangerous than violent acts. Hillary is bought and fully paid by the NWO and I can bet my Bill Clinton $3 bill, (yes, there is such thing, although not official), that with her we will have another war or even wars.
        What we need is that someone puts a 3″ tape over the mouth of that loudmouthed billionaire.

  3. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    August 1, 2016, 8:13 pm

    RE: “I learned the walk, talk and breathe as a tiny baby in Washington D.C.” ~ Dizard

    MY COMMENT: Are you related to Wilson P. Dizard Jr. (d. 2009), who worked for the State Dept. – USAID from1951 until 1980?
    Post Mortem — http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/03/AR2009090303576.html

    BOOKS BY WILSON DIZARD – https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=wilson+dizard

  4. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    August 1, 2016, 8:26 pm

    RE: “Why the Washington Post didn’t talk to people who were prepared to give their names is beyond me, but maybe it has something to do with the ethos of ‘omerta’ that permeates political parties.” ~ Dizard

    INTERVIEW: “Is the Elite Media Failing to Reach Trump Voters?”
    And in their rush to condemn Trump, are journalists betraying their values? Glenn Greenwald says yes to both.
    By Isaac Chotiner
    LINK – http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/interrogation/2016/07/glenn_greenwald_on_donald_trump_the_dnc_hack_and_a_new_mccarthyism.html

  5. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    August 1, 2016, 8:51 pm

    RE: “The Clinton ‘whips’ (people in the stands who order delegates around) confiscated Bernie signs from Bernie delegates, and replaced them with Hillary signs . . . The comments I received within seconds were a dozen photos of anti-Clinton signs held up by disgruntled Bernie delegates, and then Clinton attempts to cover them up, even bringing out people just to hold American flags in front of protest placards. . . At one point, the Oregon and Washington delegates started chanting ‘No More War’ to which Democratic party loyalists responded ‘Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!’ “

    SEE: “A Party of Lemmings Led by a Zombie: Why We Need to Keep Bernie Sanders’ Vision Alive”
    Posted on Jul 31, 2016
    By Alan Minsky

    Well, I guess I won’t be working in the Clinton White House.

    I ran into Truthdig Editor in Chief Bob Scheer at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia last week. I asked about his take on the Clinton delegates. I explained that I wanted to engage them on matters of policy, but I could hardly get an honest peep out of them. Bob looked at me, shrugged off my question as if to suggest that they’re not interested in that stuff, and quipped, “This is a job fair to them.”

    Indeed, just as Thomas Frank portrays in his magisterial new book “Listen, Liberal,” the core of the Clintonite Democratic Party is the American aspirational class, and they’ve transformed the Democratic National Convention into their natural habitat, the job market.

    Somehow, I missed the memo. Look, I have no illusions. I’m from the same social strata as many of the Clinton delegates—middle- and upper-middle class, well-educated, soccer over NASCAR. Almost all of my longtime friends dutifully support the Democratic Party, and while my pals went for Bernie Sanders in the spring, they will probably fall back in line for “Her” in November.

    Neither, I hope, am I naïve. I understand why the Clintonite ideology is attractive to this post graduate-degree, upper 10 percent, caste. They’ve all worked very hard their entire lives for the right to continue overworking. Yet, simultaneously, I am appalled that so many people who have shared so many of my life experiences cannot recognize that the Clintons and their clique are the primary architects of the contemporary national and global economic order that has made such a mess of this country and has us hurtling toward a rendezvous with apocalypse. . .

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_party_of_lemmings_led_by_a_zombie_20160731

  6. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    August 1, 2016, 9:20 pm

    RE: “The Clintons and their Foundation run the biggest futures market for favors in the nation’s capital. There are people who have been holding onto Clinton Favor Bonds for thirty years, waiting for them to mature.” ~ Dizard

    FROM “Clinton Inc.”, by Daniel Halper, pages 50-51

    . . . An important aspect of her time as U.S. senator was her learning the
    ability to fund-raise—and to reward friends. She had played a supporting
    role for years, helping her husband raise money—and helping pay back the
    donors. But now it was her turn—and within years she earned the nick-
    name, from the media outlet Bloomberg, the “Queen of Federal Pork.”24

    According to documents obtained from an organization that has
    been doing opposition research on Hillary Clinton and that is combing
    through her full record, between 2001 to 2007 Mrs. Clinton was able to
    secure earmarks totaling $536 million for companies that combined to
    contribute $514,700 to her various campaign organizations. For these
    companies, for every thousand dollars given to Mrs. Clinton, a million
    dollars was returned in the form of a federal earmark. BAE Systems got
    earmarks totaling $9,700,000 in defense appropriations; PACs and in-
    dividuals associated with the company gave Hillary $10,000. Likewise,
    Corning, Inc. got $6,700,000 and contributed $95,850 to Hillary; Day-
    Star Technologies got $1,000,000 and gave $1,000; Delphi Corporation
    got $3,000,000 and gave $2,000; DRS Technologies got $16,500,000 and
    gave $14,600; EDO Corporation got $1,800,000 and gave $4,500; General
    Motors got $10,550,000 and gave $206,000. The list goes on.

    In one four-year stretch, from 2002 to 2006, Hillary Clinton was able
    to secure more than $2 billion in earmarks—an eye-popping sum. The
    Associated Press reported, “The beneficiaries have ranged from defense
    giant Northrop Grumman Corp. to New York-based Telephonics, which
    won $5 million for helicopter equipment.”25

    Just as the Clintons’ alleged involvement with crooked donors was the
    subject of congressional inquiries while they were in the White House,
    the same allegation was made once Hillary began her own political
    career. She allegedly deployed a fugitive, Norman Hsu, as a fund-raiser,
    and there were reports that a New York developer named Robert Congel
    had made a $100,000 donation to Bill Clinton’s foundation in exchange
    for millions of dollars in federal assistance for a mall project by Congel.
    The New York Times reported that around the time of the donation,
    “Mrs. Clinton helped enact legislation allowing the developer, Robert J.

    Congel, to use tax-exempt bonds to help finance the construction of the
    Destiny USA entertainment and shopping complex,” and nine months after
    the donation, Clinton “also helped secure a provision in a highway bill that
    set aside $5 million for Destiny USA roadway construction.”26

    Of course, the Clinton camp—and for that matter the Congel camp—
    denied any quid pro quo. “Mr. Congel and Philippe Reines, a spokesman
    for Mrs. Clinton, both said there was no connection between his dona-
    tion and her legislative work on his project’s behalf. Mr. Reines said Mrs.
    Clinton supported the expansion of Carousel mall ‘purely as part of her
    unwavering commitment to improving upstate New York’s struggling
    companies, for every thousand dollars given to Mrs. Clinton, a million
    economy, and nothing more. “27

    Taking on the right—via CAP and Media Matters—and finding
    future money streams to help achieve future political aspirations was
    only part of Hillary’s planned offensive. She would also spend a consid-
    erable amount of time trying to seduce people on the right. In that, she
    took lessons from the master charmer himself, her husband, Bill Clin-
    ton, who in the first years after his presidency was building his own en-
    tourage and set of institutions. . .

    • JLewisDickerson
      JLewisDickerson
      August 5, 2016, 6:28 pm

      FROM “Clinton Inc.”, by Daniel Halper, pages 50-51 (word wrap removed)

      . . . An important aspect of her time as U.S. senator was her learning the ability to fund-raise — and to reward friends. She had played a supporting role for years, helping her husband raise money—and helping pay back the donors. But now it was her turn—and within years she earned the nickname, from the media outlet Bloomberg, the “Queen of Federal Pork.”24

      According to documents obtained from an organization that has been doing opposition research on Hillary Clinton and that is combing through her full record, between 2001 to 2007 Mrs. Clinton was able to secure earmarks totaling $536 million for companies that combined to contribute $514,700 to her various campaign organizations. For these companies, for every thousand dollars given to Mrs. Clinton, a million dollars was returned in the form of a federal earmark. BAE Systems got earmarks totaling $9,700,000 in defense appropriations; PACs and individuals associated with the company gave Hillary $10,000. Likewise, Corning, Inc. got $6,700,000 and contributed $95,850 to Hillary; Day-Star Technologies got $1,000,000 and gave $1,000; Delphi Corporation got $3,000,000 and gave $2,000; DRS Technologies got $16,500,000 and gave $14,600; EDO Corporation got $1,800,000 and gave $4,500; General Motors got $10,550,000 and gave $206,000. The list goes on.

      In one four-year stretch, from 2002 to 2006, Hillary Clinton was able to secure more than $2 billion in earmarks — an eye-popping sum. The Associated Press reported, “The beneficiaries have ranged from defense giant Northrop Grumman Corp. to New York-based Telephonics, which won $5 million for helicopter equipment.”25

      Just as the Clintons’ alleged involvement with crooked donors was the subject of congressional inquiries while they were in the White House, the same allegation was made once Hillary began her own political career. She allegedly deployed a fugitive, Norman Hsu, as a fundraiser, and there were reports that a New York developer named Robert Congel had made a $100,000 donation to Bill Clinton’s foundation in exchange for millions of dollars in federal assistance for a mall project by Congel. The New York Times reported that around the time of the donation, “Mrs. Clinton helped enact legislation allowing the developer, Robert J. Congel, to use tax-exempt bonds to help finance the construction of the Destiny USA entertainment and shopping complex,” and nine months after the donation, Clinton “also helped secure a provision in a highway bill thatset aside $5 million for Destiny USA roadway construction.”26

      Of course, the Clinton camp — and for that matter the Congel camp — denied any quid pro quo. “Mr. Congel and Philippe Reines, a spokesman for Mrs. Clinton, both said there was no connection between his donation and her legislative work on his project’s behalf. Mr. Reines said Mrs. Clinton supported the expansion of Carousel mall ‘purely as part of her unwavering commitment to improving upstate New York’s struggling economy, and nothing more. “27

      Taking on the right — via CAP and Media Matters — and finding future money streams to help achieve future political aspirations was only part of Hillary’s planned offensive. She would also spend a considerable amount of time trying to seduce people on the right. In that, she took lessons from the master charmer himself, her husband, Bill Clinton, who in the first years after his presidency was building his own entourage and set of institutions. . .

  7. John Douglas
    John Douglas
    August 1, 2016, 11:05 pm

    When LBJ withdrew as a candidate as a result, I thought at least, of Gene McCarthy, I was furious at Bobby Kennedy for stepping in. I literally ran to the McCarthy HQ in Boston to volunteer. I voted for Bernie in the primary, but in my seconds of good judgment I knew he would have been mowed over by the presidency. The same, for Clean Gene. Bobby was tough. Hillary is tough. Anger at Humphrey gave us Nixon. Wison’s pissed. He gave a shit. But there’s nothing in the piece that gives me a good reason not to vote for Hillary. She lies. So? She should be in jail. Horse [email protected] Too much is at stake for this nonsense.

  8. RepresentativePress
    RepresentativePress
    August 2, 2016, 3:39 am

    “with significant portions turning to Dr. Jill Stein in the Green Party, who made passionate appeals to dissident Sanders delegates to join her” YES! So I was eager to see what the polls were now saying and the very first one I found was “Morning Consult” AND THEY EXCLUDE JILL STEIN!! The audacity of some people to abuse the power they have never ceases to amaze me. https://morningconsult.com/2016/07/31/presidential-poll-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/

  9. bryan
    bryan
    August 2, 2016, 7:25 am

    Someone please enlighten me.

    millions of people, both left and right, believe that she should be in jail

    I get that (in an exercise in projection) she has been labelled by an opponent “crooked Hillary”; that the Clinton Foundation, set up by her husband, has some dodgy donors; that she has too often espoused an actively interventionist foreign policy; that she was “extremely careless” with State Department emails; that the highly effective Democratic Party machinery is extremely ruthless; that Sanders supporters are extremely disappointed with the outcome of the primaries; that the Democratic platform in favour of Israel and hostile to Palestinian rights is utterly unprincipled; that she is a very unattractive candidate in many people’s eyes: that she has made a fortune speaking to private groups of bankers; that her campaign is funded by very disreputable characters within Wall Street, Big Business and the pro-Zionist lobby; etc., etc. …….

    But can someone please tell me what indictable criminal offences she has committed or may have committed or at some point in the future may commit? Is her record for honesty and integrity in any way comparable to that of her main rival in the presidential campaign? Is this constant innuendo about her criminality in any way justified or helpful to the democratic process?

  10. Elizabeth Block
    Elizabeth Block
    August 2, 2016, 12:22 pm

    What I don’t understand is: Bernie Sanders was never going to win the nomination. So why did Hillary Clinton feel she had to go to such lengths to fight him? Reminds me, a bit, of Watergate, where Nixon, who was almost a shoo-in for re-election, resorted to illegal means against the Democrats.

    • annie
      annie
      August 2, 2016, 1:01 pm

      Bernie Sanders was never going to win the nomination. So why did Hillary Clinton feel she had to go to such lengths to fight him?

      part of the manufactured aura surrounding clinton’s candidacy was that she was inevitable. it’s been like that since the beginning and remains so today. when a wild card candidate does well at the beginning of a primary it not only lends to the idea that candidate has a chance but it punctures the invincible inevitable candidate image which has been the mainstay of her campaign. part of the reason that image/aura is so imperative is that she is such a polarizing figure and so intensely disliked by so many. so i think that’s why they went to such lengths to fight him. ei, what happened in arizona took a lot of planning, it was too big to be random. and that state in particular was important because of the timing of that primary. had the results been different at that time it would have lent to the idea they were neck n neck or sanders had a realistic chance. so he had to be crushed even if it meant radically shrinking the voting options in glaring obvious ways.

      ultimately, i don’t agree she (or whoever decides these election strategies) didn’t believe he never had a chance. not after what happened during her first run against obama.

      i think the dnc took a big gamble throwing all their weight behind someone so polarizing. moving the party to the right isn’t smart because it’s too big a risk running someone the left of the party doesn’t like. i don’t think dems can survive if they lose the left.

  11. Elizabeth Block
    Elizabeth Block
    August 2, 2016, 12:24 pm

    And no, I don’t think Hillary should be in jail. Whatever peccadillos she committed regarding emails, they are nothing to Donald Trump’s defrauding “students” of “Trump University.” I hope their lawsuit comes to court before the election.

  12. Rusty Pipes
    Rusty Pipes
    August 2, 2016, 5:22 pm

    Did anyone get the Bernie email about helping to take back the Senate? I think that Bernie supporters should make it clear that they will give no support if it means helping Chuck Schumer (AKA Israel’s Shomer) become majority leader (especially after the way the establishment treated Palestinian advocates at the convention).

    • echinococcus
      echinococcus
      August 2, 2016, 5:39 pm

      Rusty,

      Does Schumer matter? Anyone giving any support to the Zionist Oppression Party (either Democrat or Republican wing) is pulling the trigger. Schumer or Sanders or whatever other name.

  13. Pixel
    Pixel
    August 2, 2016, 11:06 pm

    Right now, this article is on the front page of Reddit, a place where Mondoweiss should always be!

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