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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu delivered a speech Wednesday at the Dimona nuclear plant, the site and symbol of Israel’s nuclear weapon capacity, and warned Iran and other regional rivals against taking Israel on.

The weak crumble, are slaughtered and are erased from history while the strong, for good or for ill, survive. The strong are respected, and alliances are made with the strong, and in the end peace is made with the strong…

But our enemies know very well what Israel is capable of doing. They are familiar with our policy. Whoever tries to hurt us—we hurt them

Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif said Iran was being “threatened with atomic annihilation by a warmonger standing next to an actual nuclear weapons factory.”

Netanyahu’s comments were widely derided on twitter as fascistic. Some quoted Adolf Hitler’s speech in Munich in 1923 at a time when he was gaining a following:

 “The whole of nature is a mighty struggle between strength and weakness, an eternal victory of the strong over the weak.”

Norman Finkelstein writes, “According to the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of antisemitism–” which is now being embraced by political leaders in the U.S. and Britain — “’drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis’  is taboo.

“Does this mean that the obvious juxtaposition of Netanyahu’s and Hitler’s words is antisemitic? Put otherwise, whose fault is it if Netanyahu sounds like Hitler?”

H/t Ofer Neiman.

 

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  1. Kay24
    Kay24
    September 1, 2018, 11:19 am

    It must be nice to be “strong” especially when you are given billions of dollars in aid, the latest weapons, and protection from the world’s greatest superpower. Without years of the above support, the “strong” would have collapsed, and been yet another struggling Middle Eastern nation. All that aid and support, and they have the arrogance to gloat, and brag what great people they are.
    How many have they killed, how much have they stolen, to become “strong”?

    Perhaps if those they occupy, had the same support, aid, and forceful lobbies in the US, they would be “strong” too.

    • Ellen
      Ellen
      September 1, 2018, 5:12 pm

      Exactly. And because the Israeli State is completely dependent upon aid and foreign support in many forms, it is not sustainable. At least not in the way it functions now.

    • Susan A
      Susan A
      September 1, 2018, 6:51 pm

      Indeed. And now those that give all those billions of dollars are cutting the funding of the displaced, oppressed and much maligned Palestinians by cutting all contributions to UNWRA, the only lifeline that the ordinary Palestinian has apart from BDS, And they wonder why we resort to that?!

    • inbound39
      inbound39
      September 1, 2018, 9:58 pm

      Kay24, last night I watched the Al Nakhba tapes on Al Jazeera. It blew me away. The British Army trained and armed the Sterngang,Irgun and Hagana members and in WW1 and 2 they were allowed to serve in the British Army. Palestine was always intended by the British to be a Jewish State. The British Army had concentration camps in Palestine and did the hard yards eradicating the Palestinian opposition so the Jewish Terrorists could prepare for the takeover of Palestine. Eventually the Jewish terrorist groups turned on the British Army and started attacking them to force Britain out of Palestine. Britain washed its hands of the Zionosts yet the British government left allits weaponry in Palestine….tanks and aircraft and jeeps and trucks and fortifications in Zionist hands. Palestinians never had a chance. America then decided to take Britains position to arm ,train and support Zionists. And so it has continued.

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        September 2, 2018, 7:03 am

        The Jews from Eastern Europe must have been given the green light to go for all the Palestinian territories. There must have been an unspoken agreement for them to take over as much as they want to. Why would the UK and the US otherwise keep aiding them, arming them, and protecting them every time they massacre the indigenous people? The US and the UK are experts at taking over lands too. So it does not matter to them.

      • inbound39
        inbound39
        September 3, 2018, 8:08 pm

        That is precisely the Plan Kay24. Before 1948 and since it was always the Zionist intent for Israel to rule and dominate the entire Middle East supported wholeheartedly by America and Britain. Today we see America claiming Iran as the global threat when Israel is causing more global instability by undermining and infiltrating Foreign Governments and attacking Foreign Nations. Britain does similar and both send arms or buy arms from Israel. Australia is now buying weapons from Israel. American Foreign Policy and statements have become a joke when people see clearly Israel is the larger threat globally. It is getting far too big for its boots and it is costing America and Britain their credibility and global status.

  2. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    September 1, 2018, 2:23 pm

    “Israel PM Echoes Hitler: The Weak Are Slaughtered, Erased From History”
    by Fatimah Mazhar
    In 1923, Adolf Hitler talked about the “eternal victory of the strong over the weak.” In 2018, Israeli PM Netanyahu has said something eerily similar.
    LINK – https://www.carbonated.tv/news/israel-pm-benjamin-netanyahu

    • Maghlawatan
      Maghlawatan
      September 2, 2018, 1:08 am

      “The Weak Are Slaughtered, Erased From History”

      This is bollocks
      I think Zionism feels a lot of shame about the Shoah. And then it has the cult of violence.Plus they never acknowledge trauma which even an amateur can see is so prevalent in Israel.

      Netanyahu is a walking psychology conference.

      BNRI – Benny Netanyahu king of the Jews. Where did it all go wrong?

    • JLewisDickerson
      JLewisDickerson
      September 2, 2018, 2:02 pm
      • JLewisDickerson
        JLewisDickerson
        September 2, 2018, 2:29 pm

        P.P.S.
        On 1948 | Ilan Pappe | Part I | *NEW* 2018 interview
        Published on Sep 1, 2018

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      September 3, 2018, 9:56 am

      @JLewishDickerson, et al.

      Beyond words:
      File these recent news items under “B” for Bibi’s Betrayal.

      https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/hitler-admirer-at-yad-vashem-1.6436389

      Haaretz, Sept. 2/18

      Editorial “Hitler Admirer at Yad Vashem”

      “Under the shadow of Duterte’s visit, Israel once again proves it’s willing to overlook leaders’ human rights violations for the sake of opportunities for arms deals and defense contracts.”

      Also:
      https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-phillipines-duterte-to-inaugurate-holocaust-memorial-in-israel-1.6430996
      Haaretz, Aug. 29/18

      “The Philippine’s Duterte, Who Compared Himself to Hitler, Will Inaugurate Holocaust Memorial in Israel.”

      “Philippines President Duterte once said that ‘if Germany had Hitler, the Philippines would have,’ and then pointed to himself.”

      “Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte is expected to land in Israel on Sunday for a four-day trip, marking the first visit by a Philippine president since the two countries established diplomatic ties in 1957.”

  3. zaid
    zaid
    September 1, 2018, 4:26 pm

    By Strong Bibi Adolf means bigger guns.
    Strong for me is bigger spirit and a stronger heart.

    Are these strong:

  4. Citizen
    Citizen
    September 1, 2018, 5:55 pm

    Zionists don’t do irony.

  5. edwardm
    edwardm
    September 1, 2018, 6:16 pm

    Lay by your pleading, law lies a-bleeding
    Burn all your studies down, and throw away your reading
    Small power the word has, and can afford us not half so much privilege as the sword does

    It’ll the foster the master, plaster disaster
    This’ll make a servant quickly greater than the master
    Ventures, enters, seeks and it centres
    Ever the upper hand, never a dissenter

    Kruger, Krugerrand-a, whither do you wander?
    Gone to the suborning of Hastings Banda
    Kruger, Krugerrand-a, tear you all asunder
    Beira to Luanda, Gabarone to Nyanga

    Talks of small things, it sets up all things
    This’ll master money, though money masters all things
    It is not season to talk of reason
    Never call it loyal when the sword says treason

    Balm for the worrier, the whaler, the furrier
    This’ll get the measure of a Rainbow Warrior
    Incognito, come and sink a Rainbow
    President will never know. I should (bloody coco)

    Subtle deceiver, turns calm to fever
    See the pilgrim flay the unbeliever
    It’ll make a lay man, preach and to pray man
    It’ll make a Lord of him that was but a drayman

    Conquers the crown too, grave and the gown too
    Set you up a province, but it’ll pull it down too
    No gospel can guide it, no law decide it,in church or state, till the sword sanctified it

    Take books, rent ’em, who can invent ’em?
    When that the sword says “there’ll be no argumentum”
    Blood that is spilt, sir, has gained all the guilt, sir
    Thus have you seen me run my sword up to the hilt, sir

    https://youtu.be/Na0SyJScrQo

  6. Bumblebye
    Bumblebye
    September 1, 2018, 6:45 pm

    Must be why israel’s bombing al-Mazzeh airport in Damascus tonight.

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod
      September 1, 2018, 8:29 pm

      A country without a constitution, bombs one who has a beautiful one.
      http://Www.egov.sy

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        September 1, 2018, 10:49 pm

        Comma-after-subject-clause error!

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        September 2, 2018, 11:59 am

        I’m sure you are correct, but I do it as a life-saving measure. I punctuate where I take a breath.
        But, maybe I’ll start using The Trump Method…where grandiose sentiments are contrasted with train-wreck grammar.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        September 2, 2018, 6:55 pm

        Bad practice. Punctuation is more important than breathing.

  7. CigarGod
    CigarGod
    September 1, 2018, 7:15 pm

    So says The Book of Bibi.
    Yet, Matthew 5:5 says “…the powerless shall inherit the earth.”

  8. inbound39
    inbound39
    September 1, 2018, 10:11 pm

    All Bibi and his ilk have done by their words and deeds is set themselves and their people up for another disaster and you can see it building.

    • guyn
      guyn
      September 2, 2018, 9:03 am

      So clearly, and I wouldn’t want to live in the region if or when something will happen.

    • Maghlawatan
      Maghlawatan
      September 2, 2018, 2:52 pm

      Bibi doesn’t understand trauma. War ends but trauma lives long after the weak have passed on. Judaism is still run on the trauma of WW2. So is Russia. Bibi can scare the shit out of Israel because of trauma. And he is a mess because of trauma.

  9. Qualtrough
    Qualtrough
    September 1, 2018, 10:40 pm

    Phil is violating, I have no doubt quite consciously, one of the IHRA Guidelines being foisted on the Labour Party at the moment. Namely the one prohibiting, “Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.”

    A Zionist could quite literally suggest that Palestinians should be placed in camps and disposed of through gas and crematoria, but anyone pointing out the obvious similarity to Nazi regime policies would immediately be branded an anti-semite under the guidelines, if adopted.

    The Guidelines are just one more nail in the coffin that will eventually bury weaponized anti-semitism.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      September 3, 2018, 10:03 am

      @Qualtrough

      “‘Phil is violating, I have no doubt quite consciously, one of the IHRA Guidelines being foisted on the Labour Party at the moment. Namely the one prohibiting, “Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.’”

      See my posting above regarding Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte’s current visit to “Israel.”

      “If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…”

  10. JWalters
    JWalters
    September 2, 2018, 12:31 am

    Netanyahu left out the part about being Just. His credo is that of the predator. As are his actions.

  11. DaBakr
    DaBakr
    September 2, 2018, 4:21 am

    If pw had cared to do a like research (i’m sure he didn’t) he would have found reference to leaders stretching back thousands of years from the pharaohs, the Romans, Spanish, British/americans, allied generals in both ww’s all making speeches or references to the same premise of the righteous and strong will prevail….. Blah blah. Of course of all the constitution’s one could possibly make throughout history the Jewish jew/zionist hater PW chooses bibi and Hitler. So lovely, intellectually profound and mature. What a guy

    • Sibiriak
      Sibiriak
      September 2, 2018, 9:06 am

      Most famously:

      The Athenians offer the Melians an ultimatum: surrender and pay tribute to Athens, or be destroyed. The Athenians do not wish to waste time arguing over the morality of the situation, because in practice might makes right—or, in their own words, “the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must”. [25]

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Melos#Synopsis

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      September 2, 2018, 10:13 am

      Nazi ideology was specifically based on “survival of the fittest” and “might makes right” and Netanyahu’s Zionist stance mirrors it precisely.

      • MHughes976
        MHughes976
        September 2, 2018, 11:22 am

        The first clause of the Nazi 25 point programme – not that Hitler always took it that seriously – appeals, amusingly in a grim way, to the principle of self-determination. It isn’t a pure celebration of pure force, though it is highly racist, clause 4 being the one about Jews not being capable of citizenship. Social Darwinism, with the strong prevailing over the weak, was certainly influential at the time.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        September 3, 2018, 3:34 am

        @ctz
        The Nazi ideology was based on murdering as many Jews and Romas on an industrial scale to people who were putting up almost no resistance for the most part and innocent as a whole.

        The only thing that bibis speech highlighted is how enemies of Israel and commenters here react to jewish sovereignty in israel with scorn and mock horror.

        20% of Israeli Arab/muslim /christian/druze are full citizens with all rights to vote, work and be subject to the fair court system and full civil rights. Only a die-hard Nazi loving jew hater repeatedly makes this idiotic and far-fetched theory about ideologies being the ‘same’ when the opposite is as plain as the nose on his face

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        September 3, 2018, 8:49 am

        DaBakr: “20% of Israeli Arab/muslim /christian/druze are full citizens with all rights to vote, work and be subject to the fair court system and full civil rights.”

        No, they don’t. They are not “full citizens”. Only Jews are “full citizens”. The rest are only called “citizens” to pretend that Israel is not an Apartheid state.

        DaBakr: ” Only a die-hard Nazi loving jew hater repeatedly makes this idiotic and far-fetched theory about ideologies being the ‘same’ when the opposite is as plain as the nose on his face.”

        Why would he love Nazis and hate Jews at the same time if he claims that both of them share the same ideology?

      • eljay
        eljay
        September 3, 2018, 12:32 pm

        || @aak: … The Nazi ideology was based on murdering as many Jews and Romas on an industrial scale … ||

        Nazism / Ideology:

        Nazism emphasized German nationalism, including both irredentism and expansionism. Nazism held racial theories based upon a belief in the existence of an Aryan master race that was superior to all other races. The Nazis emphasised the existence of racial conflict between the Aryan race and others—particularly Jews, whom the Nazis viewed as a mixed race that had infiltrated multiple societies and was responsible for exploitation and repression of the Aryan race. The Nazis also categorised Slavs as Untermensch (sub-human). …

        Nationalism, irredentism, expansionism – check, check and check.
        Conflict of one group against all others (Aryans vs. non-Aryans; Jewish supremacists vs. everyone else) – check.
        Categorization of one group (Slavs / Arabs) as Untermensch – check.

        It’s hard to know whether you’re:
        – deliberately misinterpreting Nazi ideology; or
        – simply wrong (again) because you’re in such a hurry to spew hatred (again) at anyone who objects to your preferred brand of supremacism.

        Regardless, I think I get what you’re trying to say: Just as Israel isn’t quite as bad as Saudi Arabia, Mali, African “hellholes”, etc., Zionism isn’t quite as bad as Nazism. I can agree with you on this sentiment.

      • gracie fr
        gracie fr
        September 3, 2018, 4:16 pm

        Hitler referred to the Germans as “human,” and all non-Aryan races as “sub-human.” While this still clearly conveys the message of racial superiority, it also implies that non-Germanic races are more than inferior, but hardly classify as human at all. Indeed, for Hitler, this was the case. Bases on “Social Dawinism, he viewed the Germanic race as the epitome of humanity, whereas all other races were inferior, some even to the point where they were worthy of extermination…..
        However, Netanyahu’s statement is a twisted and subverted reference to Frederick Nietzsche’s quote from On the Genealogy of Morals:
        Only those who suffer are good, only the poor, the powerless, the lowly are good; the suffering, the deprived, the sick, the ugly, are the only pious people, the only ones saved, salvation is for them alone, whereas you rich, the noble and powerful, you eternally wicked cruel, lustful, insatiate, godless, you will be eternally wretched, cursed and damned. (OGM 1:7)

      • eljay
        eljay
        September 5, 2018, 6:57 pm

        || @aak: … @ej

        Of course there is’official’ nazi ideology written by nazi sycophant historians to fill in between hitler’s prison manifesto blind spots in which he makes absolutely clear his driving issue (in life) was the elimination of the jewish ‘race’ from germany, europe and eventually everywhere. yes he had his mind on Slavs and other humans he considered unfit but it was primarily jews that drove his entire ideology and fixation on a third 1000yr Reich. … ||

        It’s impressive how you Zionists anti-Semitically “single out” the suffering of Jews and trivialize the suffering of all other human beings.

        But I do get your point: Just as Israel isn’t quite as bad as Saudi Arabia, Mali, African “hellholes”, etc., Zionism isn’t quite as bad as Nazism. I still agree with you on this sentiment.

      • Jon66
        Jon66
        September 6, 2018, 7:39 am

        Eljay,
        “It’s impressive how you Zionists anti-Semitically “single out” the suffering of Jews and trivialize the suffering of all other human beings.”

        Here’s your guys.
        All Lives Matter
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Lives_Matter

      • eljay
        eljay
        September 6, 2018, 8:17 am

        || Jon66: Eljay, … Here’s your guys.
        All Lives Matter
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Lives_Matter ||

        They’re not “my guys”, but I do believe that all lives matter and that justice, accountability and equality should be universally and consistently applied. It’s a shame that you disagree with this sentiment.

        And it’s a shame that you agree with TheBaker’s reduction of all of Nazism only to Jewish suffering. Not only does it anti-Semitically “single out” Jews but it deliberately trivializes the suffering of all non-Jews.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        September 6, 2018, 9:03 am

        @jon66/eljay

        Funny that you raise All lives matter (as being our side) on the day video is released showing that the GoI and The Israel Project are actively trying to subvert and undermine the BLM movement.

      • Jon66
        Jon66
        September 6, 2018, 1:59 pm

        OG,
        Not your side or my side. Just Eljay’s view. He doesn’t understand that an emphasis on the disproportionately unlawful treatment of blacks doesn’t mean that we don’t value all lives. But rather that in some circumstances the disproportion necessitates an emphasis of those who were/are most targeted. Another example- The NAACP with its focus on African Americans is not anti-white.

      • eljay
        eljay
        September 6, 2018, 2:15 pm

        || Jon66: …
        Not your side or my side. Just Eljay’s view. He doesn’t understand … ||

        I understand very well that Zionism – your and TheBaker’s preferred brand of supremacism – has nothing to do with the universal and consistent application of justice, accountability and equality.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        September 6, 2018, 7:23 pm

        ” The NAACP with its focus on African Americans is not anti-white.”

        All the NAACP ever did was advocate for the civil rights denied to African-Americans. I don’t remember the NAACP stealing a country from its residents.

    • Don
      Don
      September 2, 2018, 1:14 pm

      DaBakr, you are so right. Phil can be so unfair.

      In the name of heaven, Phil, can’t you just…

      Leave Bibi Alone?

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        September 3, 2018, 3:41 am

        @don

        Is THAT what PW looks like now? Is he biurnal , non-gender non-binary? I could give two shts wether PW is fair In his mind or unfair in his heart. I only care that his hypocrisy be exposed and his biases are as well

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        September 3, 2018, 12:25 pm

        “I only care that his hypocrisy be exposed and his biases are as well”

        Are you expecting a big expose in “Commentary” or “Tablet”? I can see the headline:

        “Mondoweiss Author Phil Weiss Exposed As Jewish -American Person!”

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        September 5, 2018, 4:08 pm

        @mssr

        Well, MW and its owner PW have been officially labeled a hate site and purveyor of hate so I’m not sure three is any immediate need for a big expose. By a general scan of the regular commenters here….. The current scale of exposure is appropriate. .

        @tb

        If you are that ignorant to believe that arab muslims /christian/samaritan etc are not full citizens in israel then you simply add to the problem. Plus, you echo certain nazi propaganda technique yourself. but I expect no less from you.

        @ej

        Of course there is’official’ nazi ideology written by nazi sycophant historians to fill in between hitler’s prison manifesto blind spots in which he makes absolutely clear his driving issue (in life) was the elimination of the jewish ‘race’ from germany, europe and eventually everywhere. yes he had his mind on Slavs and other humans he considered unfit but it was primarily jews that drove his entire ideology and fixation on a third 1000yr Reich. He also’borrowed’ (plagiarized) from Henry Ford heavily though Ford did not devote his life to murdering an entire people. Ford actually, despite his bigotry and dislike of jews improved the lives of millions of workers including thousands of jews which proves there is a huge difference between bigotry, nazis and original intent.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        September 5, 2018, 5:47 pm

        ..” The current scale of exposure is appropriate.

        When you’re around, “Dabakr”, the exposure meter is pegged at “indecent”.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        September 5, 2018, 9:36 pm

        “Well, MW and its owner PW have been officially labeled a hate site and purveyor of hate …”

        By which officials?

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      September 3, 2018, 10:18 am

      @DaBakr

      Like it or not, the comparison between Netanyahu and Hitler and describing “Israel” as “fascistic” are entirely legitimate.

      To wit:
      Jan 19, 2018 – Haaretz
      Opinion: “In Israel, Growing Fascism and a Racism Akin to Early Nazism” by Zeev Sternhell.**
      EXCERPT:
      “I frequently ask myself how a historian in 50 or 100 years will interpret our period. When, he will ask, did people in Israel start to realize that the state that was established in the War of Independence, on the ruins of European Jewry and at the cost of the blood of combatants some of whom were Holocaust survivors, had devolved into a true monstrosity for its non-Jewish inhabitants. When did some Israelis understand that their cruelty and ability to bully others, Palestinians or Africans, began eroding the moral legitimacy of their existence as a sovereign entity?”

      Also:
      https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-gaza-border-killings-expose-israel-s-true-mentality-1.6032716
      Opinion: “Gaza Border Killings Expose Israel’s True Mentality”

      “And Bezalel Smotrich, like the cynical face of Avigdor Lieberman, reflects our own face, the face of Netanyahu’s advance guard for the West.”
      Zeev Sternhell Apr 27, 2018 – Haaretz
      ** Zeev Sternhell is a Polish-born Israeli historian, political scientist, commentator on the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, and writer. He is one of the world’s leading experts on fascism. Sternhell headed the Department of Political Science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        September 5, 2018, 4:17 pm

        @mstr

        Like it or not… The comparison of nazi attitude to you yourself is entirely legitimate. I doubt you see it but believe me, it’s there like a neon sign on your pate

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        September 5, 2018, 5:32 pm

        DaBakr: “Like it or not… The comparison of nazi attitude to you yourself is entirely legitimate.”

        Either Misterioso or you supports a state which not only differentiates between nationals and citizens to privilige the former, but also its actions and policies against a whole people that were condemned at the Nuremberg trials as war crimes and crimes against humanity.

        And it doesn’t seem that it is Misterioso who has that attitude.

  12. oldgeezer
    oldgeezer
    September 2, 2018, 10:31 am

    Ssshhhhhhh

    I’m trying to hear Rabbi Sacks condemnation.

  13. Maximus Decimus Meridius
    Maximus Decimus Meridius
    September 2, 2018, 11:07 am

    Thing is, Israel really isn’t all that ‘strong’. It hasn’t won a war for nearly half a century, and god knows that’s not for the want of trying. Its ground forces are made up mostly of middle aged dads and trigger-happy yobs. It depends on handouts from foreign powers to get by. It feels threatened when pop stars cancel concerts.

    Take away the unquestioning support of the USA and what you have is a small middle eastern state with few resources, and with almost no popular support around the world. Israel is not strong. It will only be able to promote the illusion that it is for as long as Uncle Sam holds its hands. Without that, it’s nothing. And Milekowsky knows it.

    • Maghlawatan
      Maghlawatan
      September 2, 2018, 3:45 pm

      Israel can only fight for 2 weeks without being resupplied by the US. When the Mubarak regime collapsed the Israeli embassy in Cairo was sacked. That is how loved Israel is in the region. Israel turkey shoots Gazans for fun. The beauty of Gaza, one soldier told the FT , is that you can shoot anyone. Israel is weak, needy and whiny.

      • Misterioso
        Misterioso
        September 3, 2018, 10:45 am

        @Maghlawatan and Maximus Decimus Meridius

        While living in the region, I came to know several UN observers. They had a very low opinion of Israel’s military, i.e., it is very well armed, including sophisticated missiles and the latest air craft, etc., courtesy of US taxpayers, but its soldiers lack courage, dedication and fighting skills on the ground. This has been well demonstrated in Lebanon and the Gaza Strip.

        For the record:

        https://therealnews.com/stories/hezbollah-leader-nasrallah-calls-israeli-military-weak-he-is-correct

        “Hezbollah Leader Nasrallah Calls Israeli Military Weak: He is Correct”

        The Real News Network, August 30, 2018
        “Shir Hever discusses the relationship of mutual admiration that has developed between Israel and Hezbollah, and that Nasrallah’s sources in the Israeli media indicate a continuing erosion of the Israeli military edge in the region”

        EXCERPTS:
        GREG WILPURT: “‘Last Sunday the leader of Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, gave a speech about how the Israeli military has gone weak and that its soldiers have lost their motivation to fight. He based his speech on reports from the Israeli media. Nasrallah mentioned that there is a drop off among Israelis willing to serve in combat units, and that 44,000 Israelis met with psychiatrists to treat mental problems or to receive exemptions from military service. During the week, virtually every Israeli newspaper and television channel reported on Nasrallah’s speech, often praising his analytical ability and his familiarity with Israeli sources, but also challenging his conclusions.

        “‘Since the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in the summer of 2006 there were no major confrontations between Hezbollah and the Israeli military. While Israeli forces were mainly busy enforcing the siege of the Gaza Strip and repressing protests of unarmed Palestinian civilians, Hezbollah has heavily engaged in the civil war in Syria. And there are reports that between 1500 and 2000 Hezbollah militants were killed in Syria. In Nasrallah’s opinion, the reason there has been no confrontation for 12 years between Hezbollah and the Israeli military is that Hezbollah has effectively deterred the state of Israel from engaging them.
        Joining me now to discuss the state of the Israeli military and their relationship to Hezbollah is Shir Hever. Shir is a Real News correspondent based in Heidelberg, Germany, and his most recent book is The Privatization of Israeli Security, which was published by Pluto Press in 2017.'”

        “GREG WILPERT: ‘So, has the state of Israel been deterred by Hezbollah? What do you say?’
        SHIR HEVER: ‘I think the deterrence is traced back to the Israeli invasion of 2006. That is an invasion that has been really marked by Israeli society as very traumatic. And in fact, all of the senior Israeli politicians in general that were involved in that invasion have taken a heavy loss to their political and military careers, and most of them are now out of the public eye anymore.'”

        “‘And this is, in fact, an example, I think, of how the Israeli military has changed in a way very similar to what Nasrallah is saying; that when the Israeli soldiers marched into Lebanon in 2006 they expected the kind of confrontation that they’re used to in fighting against Palestinian civilians. I wouldn’t even say fighting against, because it’s more about repressing Palestinian civilians and making arrests, and so on. They were just not used to somebody firing back at them. And the soldiers then immediately stopped whenever they were sustaining fire, and took cover and asked for backup, because that’s what you do if you’re a colonialist soldier in the West Bank and Gaza. But this is not what you do if you’re invading a foreign country. And because of that their progress was very slow, and they sustained heavier casualties than the Israeli public was willing to sustain. And that was something that the Israeli government really saw as a failure. And as a result, the Israelis were indeed very cautious about inflaming another confrontation along the northern border with Lebanon.
        So in that sense, Nasrallah is absolutely right. Hezbollah been successful in deterring the Israeli military. But I think it is also interesting to note that this language, to say that Hezbollah’s success in deterring the Israeli army, is directly borrowed from the Israeli vocabulary, because it is generations of Israeli generals who explained that Israel has to go on various military operations in Lebanon or elsewhere in order to deter their enemies. And now I think the tide has turned in the other direction.’

        “GREG WILPERT: ‘So what are the sources that Nasrallah was quoting from in the Israeli media? And do you agree that there is a drop in morale among the Israelis to serve in combat roles?

        “SHIR HEVER: ‘As the main source, I think, that he was quoting is a very fascinating article that was published by [name inaudible], the chief comptroller of the Israeli military, and the man was supposed to receive complaints from soldiers and officers about things that they think are not done properly in the military. And he wrote is very unusual piece for Haaretz newspaper. Because usually these kind of soldiers and officers are not supposed to talk about what’s happening inside the military and the public. And I think the most interesting thing is the fact that he is possibly the oldest serving soldier in the Israeli military. He is now 70 years old. And that means that he has fought in four different wars that the Israeli military has been engaged in. And that gives him a perspective which no other Israeli soldier really has. The perspective is really to see the difference between how the Israeli military was structured and operated in the ’60s and ’70s, even to some extent the ’80s.

        “‘And what happened in more recent years, when the Israeli military became very spoiled and has a serious problem with discipline. And I think that yes, there is a drop in conscription. According to Israeli military sources, less than 48 percent of young Israelis actually joined the military when they turned 18. Compare that to about 80 percent in the 1980s. So a very steep drop in conscription over the years. And also when it comes to what exactly the soldiers expect from military service. How much are we willing to sacrifice, how much are they willing to put their lives at risk and for the national cause? And what his article did not mention is that there are two reasons for that. Reason number one is the neoliberal transformation of the Israeli economy. Israel has ceased to be a welfare state. And because of that, when the government says to the public you have to take care of your own fate and your own future, then of course young Israelis are saying back to the government, so why should we sacrifice our best years to the military? Why should we join the military? We will find a way to avoid military service and find a job instead, or go to university.

        “‘And the second reason that is missing is the settler-colonial nature of the Israeli society. That’s a very important point. Because the generation, his generation are the people who were the so-called pioneers of the Zionist movement, who established the state and fought for it, believing that they are creating something for themselves. The next generations, and this happens in any settler-colonial situation, such as in the United States, Canada, Australia, and so on, the future generations believe that they are entitled to this country that belongs to them, and that they are somehow at the princes that inherited that territory, and that they shouldn’t be expected to make sacrifices like their parents and grandparents did. And therefore they don’t really expect military service to be a place where they sacrifice. They expected military service to be a jumping board for a career, maybe in the high-tech sector, or to make money. And when that doesn’t happen they just leave the army.'”

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius
        Maximus Decimus Meridius
        September 3, 2018, 12:04 pm

        @misterioso,

        I’m no military expert but from what I’ve heard from those who are, what you’ve said is true. Israel has an excellent air-force – not that hard when you’ve got access to top US technology and billions in ‘aid’ – but its ground forces are made up mostly of reservists, many of them middle aged and middle class, or trigger-happy young thugs, an increasing number of them religiously motivated. Since air forces cannot win wars on their own, and since dads in their 40s don’t make good soldiers, the much-vaunted Israeli army is forced to boast of victories from nearly 50 years ago.

        Thanks for the article btw. Interesting reading.

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod
      September 3, 2018, 11:48 am

      Probably why Bibi has recently gone for the simple solution. Threats to use The Bomb.

      • inbound39
        inbound39
        September 3, 2018, 8:56 pm

        If he did use the bomb all bets would be off and Israel would be glass in retaliation from numerous nations that hold bombs also. It would not go unanswered and Israel would commit suicide by using it.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        September 4, 2018, 6:27 pm

        Which nations, inbound?
        Pakistan?
        Who else?

  14. mayangrl
    mayangrl
    September 2, 2018, 2:22 pm

    “The weak crumble, are slaughtered and are erased from history while the strong, for good or for ill, survive. The strong are respected, and alliances are made with the strong, and in the end peace is made with the strong…“

    So 6 million souls of his tribe are thus relegated to the dustbin of history. We can now move on and forget them, yes? They were weak. We only care about the strong. Sarcasm on my part, but not on the part of the “leader of the world’s Jews.”

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod
      September 4, 2018, 6:28 pm

      I love you, Mayan Girl.

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr
      September 5, 2018, 4:23 pm

      @myn

      He did not say “forget” anybody. but yes, he implied they were too weak to save themselves from industrialized murder and that state of weakness will , with Israel’s rebirth, never exist again. It is not a complex or controversial statement. It is so utterly common and universally true that those who take such umbrage one has to wonder what theit problem is. It is not like the Arab leadership has EVER offered to share the land in two states where one state remains sovereign for its Jewish citizens. the Arabs have always said eventually, when they have the power, they will take back jaffa and everything else between the sea and Jordan. Is this not known by you?

  15. CHUCKMAN
    CHUCKMAN
    September 2, 2018, 2:23 pm

    Scary stuff.

    Over time, Netanyahu just sounds worse and worse, having started from a pretty low beginning point.

    I wrote an article some years ago analyzing Netanyahu then and comparing many well-known aspects of him to facts of Hitler’s make-up as revealed in scholarly biographers.

    I thought then, and think even more now, that the comparison is spot-on.

    Readers may enjoy:

    https://chuckmanwords.wordpress.com/2014/10/17/uncanny-parallels-in-character/

  16. catalan
    catalan
    September 2, 2018, 2:56 pm

    “Nazi ideology was specifically based on “survival of the fittest” and “might makes right” citizen
    The Jews of Europe were destroyed because they were weak – they were not armed. It does seem fair to say that the strong survive and the weak die out. We are all the descendants of the first organisms that populated the earth. There was a lot of death for us to be around. Who runs the world – the US, China, Russia, Japan – all strong countries.

    • Maghlawatan
      Maghlawatan
      September 2, 2018, 3:52 pm

      They were destroyed because they were abandoned, Catalan. One reason AIPAC is so active today and nobody says no to Israel is because of WW2 guilt. 6 million people did not have to die.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius
        Maximus Decimus Meridius
        September 2, 2018, 4:08 pm

        They weren’t ‘abandoned’. There was a war going on and, short of a defeat of Nazism, nothing could be done to help them and the other innocent victims of this war.

        “One reason AIPAC is so active today and nobody says no to Israel is because of WW2 guilt.”

        I disagree. The US slaughtered millions of innocent Vietnamese and Cambodians well within living memory and I don’t see a huge Vietnamese lobby in Washington. The reason AIPAC is so powerful is because pro Israel businessmen and lobbyists are so powerful, and there is incentive not to be. Politicans do not operate on the basis of ‘guilt’.

    • Keith
      Keith
      September 2, 2018, 4:28 pm

      CATALAN- “Who runs the world….”

      Primarily the corporations with the financial corporations at the very top, governments reduced to administrative units which implement elite policy.

      • Maghlawatan
        Maghlawatan
        September 3, 2018, 3:54 am

        Keith,

        The scary thing is that nobody is in charge
        The economic system is out of control. So is the climate

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        September 3, 2018, 7:12 am

        Yes, but the Fed bank is partner with the corporations, especially the financial ones at the very top.

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod
      September 3, 2018, 11:21 am

      Oh great, another guy raised on Ayn Rand.
      Catalan joins Paul Ryan…whos growth stopped in high school.

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod
      September 4, 2018, 6:40 pm

      Ha!
      Catalan…where was this formidable 6 million man Jewish army without arms…positioned?
      Who were their Generals?
      Were there divisions of Jewish infantry training with dummy non-firing wooden rifles, like the U.S. Navy, Army, etc trained with in WWII?

  17. eljay
    eljay
    September 2, 2018, 3:06 pm

    The weak crumble, are slaughtered and are erased from history while the strong, for good or for ill, survive. The strong are respected, and alliances are made with the strong, and in the end peace is made with the strong…

    But our enemies know very well what Israel is capable of doing. They are familiar with our policy. Whoever tries to hurt us—we hurt them

    What a strange message from King Bibi: First he justifies the Holocaust, and then he essentially tells Hamas that the only way to win the respect of and to make an alliance and/or peace with Israel is to become strong enough to hurt it.

    With Zionist “friends” like these, Jews certainly don’t need enemies.

    • gamal
      gamal
      September 2, 2018, 4:54 pm

      “The weak crumble, are slaughtered and are erased from history while the strong, for good or for ill, survive”

      is that so and Dennis Banks ran away with 5 bullets in him, and Chika Dixon is still with us., I even met Gary Foley who didn’t seem weak to me . Who crumbles? You don’t think First Nations still resist in Canada, you should check the news, they will turn into dust is in your dreams…don’t get weary, it’s a long haul, history is long and not over.

      as the great Gazan Shafi’i observed “Some people die and yet their character keeps them alive, other are “alive” but their character has killed them”, if you get my drift.

      • Maghlawatan
        Maghlawatan
        September 3, 2018, 2:45 am

        One of the most pathetic things about Zionism is that it threw out everything to do with Jewish life in the diaspora so 2500 or so years worth of culture. Over the long durée a society will go through different stages. War and warmongering assholes like Bibi , periods of mediocrity and periods of high culture. Zionism had access to all of that experience but ditched it. And so now insights have to be made up. And things brings us to Bibi. He isn’t fit to lick the soles of Hillel’s flipflop

  18. wondering jew
    wondering jew
    September 2, 2018, 7:57 pm

    Yeshayahu Leibowitz was able to conceive of a nation supported by an army that still maintained other values aside from strength. But like the path of those who conceived of a homeland without an army, Leibowitz’s conception was not fulfilled over time and instead we find ourselves with a leader who makes brute force sound like something good.

    If we want an army, we might still want to have a general who has the wisdom of Leibowitz and not just the “we’ll make him an offer he can’t refuse” Corleone ethos. This is a narrow bridge, a tightrope even, not something easy to traverse. It is not made easier by the prevailing winds.

    • Maghlawatan
      Maghlawatan
      September 3, 2018, 1:01 am

      Very toned down Leibovitz, Yonah. He defined people like the current leaders as Judeonazis. Israel now is Judeonazi.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      September 3, 2018, 11:57 am

      “If we want an army, we might still want to have…”

      …children. Lots and lots of healthy, all-Jewish children, so we have plenty for the army.
      Can you get them for us wholesale?

    • Marnie
      Marnie
      September 4, 2018, 10:18 am

      wondering jew – ‘if we want an army’. Speak for yourself dude. if you want an army please find one and join ASAP!! Armchair general spot has been filled by the ample asses of the orange circus peanut and blue boobie.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        September 4, 2018, 12:39 pm

        I don’t know, maybe I don’t really appreciate the qualities which make me the equal of 500 non-Jews, but I always had this weird idea that “the fittest” meant there was lots and lots of you, and lots more on the way.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      September 4, 2018, 1:14 pm

      “Yonah”, if you want an army, all you have to do is order your little soldiers into battle.

      • eljay
        eljay
        September 4, 2018, 1:35 pm

        || Mooser: “Yonah”, if you want an army, all you have to do is order your little soldiers into battle. ||

        Shoot to thrill, seed to spill
        Too many Arabs on too many hills
        Shoot to thrill, seed to spill
        I’ve got my gun and I’m ready for some women to fill
        ’cause I shoot to thrill with my triumph of will
        But I can’t breed enough – they outnumber us still
        Shoot to thrill, seed to spill…yeah
        Pull the trigger!

        (with sincerest apologies to AC/DC)

  19. Marnie
    Marnie
    September 3, 2018, 8:08 am

    Wow, the mask is off! Hardly. netanyahu has always sounded like hitler and his fellow mad men and women in the knesset play their parts perfectly. How can anyone continue to be surprised by where he’s going? Look where he’s from FFS! Murdering, thieving monsters and have Kushner and tRUMP to frolic with about the money they are lining their fat pockets with. They are commiting genocide and bragging about it. Nice fucking world.

  20. inbound39
    inbound39
    September 3, 2018, 9:07 pm

    Like I said earlier. Israel’s time is coming and it will be nothing like Netanyahu et al think. You cannot behave like Israel does and have nothing majorly bad happen. At some point life will sober Netanyahu up from his drunken powercrazed induced stupor. The big slap will inevitably come to Israel. History tells us that.

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