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A new Pew Research Center poll of global attitudes says that while most countries see the U.S. as not considering their country’s interests in foreign policy decisions, far and away the people of one country regard the U.S. as taking their country’s interest into account. Israel!

Eighty-six percent of Israelis say that the U.S. takes their country’s interests into account. That is a far larger percentage than any other country surveyed–

Across the 25 countries where the question was asked, a median of just 28% say the U.S. takes their country’s interests into account when making international decisions. In fact, majorities across Europe, and in neighboring Canada and Mexico, say that the U.S. does not take into account their interests when making foreign policy.

“Some of America’s top allies and partners” score in the teens or twenties on this scale, Pew says– 27 percent in the U.K., 19 in Germany, 18 in France. And for all the worries about Russia having something on Trump, only 26 percent of Russians think that the U.S. is taking Russian interests into account.

Israelis felt that way about the U.S. under Obama too– 69 percent in 2013 said that the U.S. took Israel’s interests into account. But it’s only gotten better:

Israel saw the biggest increase [from 2013 to 2018], perhaps due to recent U.S. actions, such as scrapping the Iran nuclear deal and moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem…

By contrast, over that same period, the number of Germans who believe the U.S. takes their country’s interest into account dropped from 50 percent in 2013 to just 19 percent today.

US takes Israel’s interests into account, Israelis say. Pew Global.

Trump is doing well in Israel. At a time when few in the world have positive opinions of Donald Trump, Israelis stand out: they have great confidence that Trump will do the right thing. “America’s global image plummeted following the election of President Donald Trump, amid widespread opposition to his administration’s policies and a widely shared lack of confidence in his leadership,” Pew observes.

Israelis have confidence that Trump will do the right thing, 69 to 31– the reverse of most peoples’ view of our president.

Pew Global poll on confidence in Trump in other nations.

While the image of the U.S. turns “sour” in Canada and across western Europe, the U.S. is popular in Israel: 83 percent favorability.

US favorability in the world, per Pew Research global survey. Oct. 1, 2018.

In summary: Germany has a 30 percent favorability rating for the U.S. and a 10 percent confidence level in Trump; Mexico scores 32 and 6; Netherlands, 34 and 19, Canada, 39 and 25; Japan, 67 and 30.

But Israel: 83 and 69. Says Pew:

Confidence in President Trump has increased significantly in Israel since 2017. Trump also receives substantially higher ratings than Obama got near the end of his second term, although they are very similar to the high ratings for Obama in 2014, before tensions rose between his administration and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over the Iran nuclear deal. As has been the case in recent years, around eight-in-ten Israelis express a favorable opinion about the U.S. At 52%, Israelis are more likely than any other public surveyed to say the U.S. is doing more to address global problems than a few years ago. Israel also tops the list in terms of the share of the public (79%) saying that relations with the U.S. have improved in the past year.

Confidence in Trump in Israel. Pew Research, Oct. 2018.

And though we talk about the rise of the right in Europe, Israel’s rightwingers are way keener on the U.S. than European nationalists.

[A]mong people in France who have a favorable view of Marine Le Pen’s National Rally (formerly known as the National Front), 57% have a positive opinion of the U.S. vs. only 36% among those who have a negative opinion of the National Rally. Similar divides exist among supporters and detractors of Alternative for Germany (AfD) in Germany; the League (formerly called the Northern League) and the Five Star Movement in Italy; UKIP in the UK; Jobbik in Hungary; and the Party for Freedom in the Netherlands.

But those scores are 94 percent to 57 percent in Israel. That is to say, those on the left in Israel score the same as rightwingers in Europe when it comes to favorability toward the U.S.!

Israeli right is far more supportive of the U.S. than rightwing nationalists in Europe.

Next, here’s your creeping fascism index. Most people in most countries regard the U.S. as an enemy of civil liberties in the U.S. But not Israel!


Another difference. Israelis are the most convinced of any people in the world that the global role of the U.S. has gotten more positive in the past two years: About half of Israelis (52%) say the U.S. is doing more “to help address major global problems.” Europeans by overwhelming proportions say the U.S. is doing less not more to address global problems.

Is the US doing more or less to solve world problems? Pew asks.

And relations between the U.S. and Israel have gotten better in the last year, to a degree that no other country’s people feel. Nearly four out of five Israeli say relations with the U.S. have improved, obviously because of the Iran deal and the Jerusalem gambit. No one else comes close!

Things go better with Trump in 2018, Israel says. Pew Global poll.

Lastly, here’s Pew’s discussion about the U.S. acting in other countries’ interests. Most countries regard the U.S. as selfish. Obama lessened that perception, but Trump has heightened that view, especially among some of our “top allies and partners.” Not Israel.

A common criticism about American foreign policy over the past decade and a half has been that the U.S. only looks after its own interests in world affairs, ignoring the interests of other nations. As Pew Research Center surveys showed, this belief was especially prevalent during George W. Bush’s presidency, when many around the world thought the U.S. was pursuing unilateralist, and unpopular, policies. Strong opposition to the Iraq War and other elements of Bush’s foreign policy led to rising complaints about the U.S. acting alone and ignoring the interests and concerns of other nations.

Opinions shifted following Barack Obama’s election, with more people saying the U.S. considers their country’s interest, although even during the Obama years the prevailing global sentiment was that the U.S. doesn’t necessarily consider other countries. Now, the Trump presidency has brought an increase in the number of people in many nations saying the U.S. essentially doesn’t listen to countries like theirs when making foreign policy.

This pattern is especially pronounced among some of America’s top allies and partners. For instance, while the share of the French public who believe the U.S. considers their national interest has not been very high at any point over the past decade and a half, it reached a low point near the end of Bush’s second term (11% in 2007), rose somewhat during Obama’s presidency (35% in 2013) and has declined once more under Trump. Today, just 18% in France say the U.S. considers the interests of countries like theirs when making policy.

Again: Eighty-six percent of Israelis say that the U.S. takes their country’s interests into account, up from 69 percent under Obama in 2013.

 

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  1. Maximus Decimus Meridius
    Maximus Decimus Meridius
    October 4, 2018, 12:13 pm

    The only country whose interests America should take into account is America. The only country whose interests Russia should take into account is Russia. The only country whose interests Finland should take into account is Finland. And so on and so forth. That’s how it’s always been. Nation states don’t have ‘friends’. They have shared interests, which ebb and flow over time. Historians in future generations will look back in amazement at how the most powerful country in human history allowed itself to be dictated to by a minor Middle Eastern state with no borders, no resources and a population slightly smaller than that of Sweden.

    I remember several months ago hearing some Zionist firster say that Jared Kushner was ‘dedicated to Isreal’. My first thought was: Shouldn’t he be dedicated to America? That is the country he is supposed to be serving, after all. Could you imagine a senior Iranian-American politician being praised for being ‘dedicated to Iran’? It would never ever happen. But the American people seem fine with being dictated to by a belligerant statelet most couldn’t point to on a map.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      October 5, 2018, 11:14 am

      @Maximus Decimus Meridius , et al.

      Meanwhile, the sun is breaking through. Ahed Tamimi and her generation are the wave of the future and guaranteed to drive the Zionists crazy.

      https://en.vogue.me/fashion/perspectives/ahed-tamimi-palestine-open-letter/

      VOGUE MAGAZINE,

      “PERSPECTIVES October 4, 2018
      “Occupied Childhood: Ahed Tamimi Pens a Heartfelt Letter About Life in and After Prison”

      By Ahed Tamimi

      EXCERPTS:

      “In a heartfelt letter, 17-year-old Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi tells the story of her arrest and eight months in an Israeli prison – and the struggles she faces as a symbol of resistance.

      “’I am a child of the Israeli occupation. It has always been there. My first real memory is of my father’s arrest in 2004 and visiting him in prison. At the time, I was three years old; he has since been arrested on two further occasions. Last year, when I was 16, I was arrested too, during a nighttime raid, for slapping a soldier who was standing in our yard. I was sentenced to eight months in an Israeli prison.’

      “’Life behind bars was very hard. The guards woke us at 5.30 am for the count and at 8am they returned to search the cells. Our doors opened at 10.30 am, when we were let out for breakfast. Afterward, we would go to the other rooms, where I could talk to my fellow inmates. There were around 25 of us. We were not allowed outside and walked around in a big hall for exercise. Along with the other girls, I tried to make study groups, but the prison administration did not encourage this and broke up the class. Instead, we read books, and I managed to pass my final exams in prison. Only my immediate family was allowed to visit me, and that was limited to 45 minutes through a glass barrier every two months.’

      “’Through my arrest, I became the symbol of the occupation, but there are 300 other children in Israeli jails whose stories no one knows. Nurhan Awwad was arrested when she was 16 and sentenced to 13 years in prison. It is said that she tried to kill a soldier. Nurhan was walking with her cousin, who was shot and killed in front of her eyes. Israeli security forces also shot Nurhan, who was sent to hospital. From there, they took her to prison on a 13-year sentence. She is 18 today. The youngest girl in prison is Hadia Arainat. She is 16 and has already served three years; she should be released in four months. They say that she also tried to kill a soldier; she was on her way to school in Jericho at the time of her arrest.’

      “’Since I was released on July 29, I have become a spokesperson for the Palestinian cause, which is not easy. With this role comes a great deal of responsibility and pressure. In parallel, I am on a suspended sentence for the next five years; if I say something they don’t like, I can be imprisoned for another eight months. I must tread carefully. People often ask where I find my strength and courage to stand up to the occupation, but I am experiencing a situation which forces me to be strong. Of course, it is also due to the influence of my parents. They remain my biggest inspiration. Yet I believe that everyone in my village is like me; I am not special. Do I sometimes wish that I could just let go and not be strong? No. Under occupation, you must be. I have always challenged my fear and found the strength I needed.’

      “‘If there was no occupation and Palestine was a normal country, I would move to Acre and live by the sea and go swimming. I have only been once – even if the water is only 30km from my house. Some years ago, during Ramadan, Israel gave us permission to visit Jerusalem. On that day, my dad took us kids to the sea. We were afraid, of course, because it was illegal – the permit we had only allowed us to stay in Jerusalem for a few hours, but my father was determined.’

      “‘I want to be a regular 17-year-old. I like clothes, I like makeup. I get up in the morning, check my Instagram, have breakfast, and walk in the hills around the village. Sometimes I go to Ramallah with friends to go bowling, eat ice cream, and go to restaurants – but I am not a normal teenager. Both my parents have been in jail, as have I, and now my eldest brother, Waed, is imprisoned too. If I were permitted to be a regular teenager living in a normal country, I would play sports. I wanted to become a football player but I don’t play here because there is no time. Instead, I have been involved in demonstrations and confrontations with the Israeli army since I was a child. Many criticize that, but why not criticize the army who places itself in front of children? Under the occupation, everything is a crime. People should not accuse us; it is the occupation that is wrong.'”

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius
        Maximus Decimus Meridius
        October 5, 2018, 11:41 am

        And did you see the Israeli ambassador sputter with rage when she was received at Real Madrid last week? Not a fan of Real in the slightest, but respect where it’s due.

        Ahad is a star. Who have the Ziobots got who can compare? “Wonder” woman Gal Greenstein who has clearly been instructed to downplay her Israeli backround and delete the tweet where she praised the Gaza massacre? Even the likes of Natalie Herschlag don’t want to be associated with Israel anymore. Zionism is doomed I tell you. Doomed.

  2. Steve Grover
    Steve Grover
    October 4, 2018, 12:59 pm

    Thanks Phil for sharing that Israelis have a very positive view of the United States. It is also a beautiful thing that Americans have a very positive view of Israel.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      October 5, 2018, 9:50 am

      @Steve Grover

      “Thanks Phil for sharing that Israelis have a very positive view of the United States.”

      It’s hardly surprising that “‘Israelis’ have a very positive view of the United States.” Beggars, including beggar states, always have a “positive view” of their benefactor.

      To wit:
      https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mid…
      “Congressional Research Service, U.S. Foreign aid to Israel, Jeremy M. Sharpe, Specialist in Middle East Affairs, April 10, 2018.”
      “Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $134.7 billion (current, or non inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance and missile defense funding. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance. At a signing ceremony at the State Department on September 14, 2016, representatives of the U.S. and Israeli governments signed a new 10-year Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) on military aid covering FY2019 to FY2028. Under the terms of the MOU, the United States pledges to provide $38 billion in military aid ($33 billion in Foreign Military Financing grants plus $5 billion in missile defense appropriations) to Israel. This MOU replaces a previous $30 billion 10-year agreement, which runs through FY2018.”

      “It is also a beautiful thing that Americans have a very positive view of Israel.”
      Sorry old boy, but the facts are dramatically contrary to your assertion.

      To wit:
      The Forward, June 21/17: “Support for Israel on Campus Drops by ‘Devastating’ 27%: Study”
      “The Brand Israel Group [BIG], a coalition of volunteer advertising and marketing specialists, has released a survey that shows a significant decrease in Israel’s approval rating among Americans.

      “’The future of America no longer believe that Israel shares their values. This is huge! Devastating,’ Fern Oppenheim, a co-founder of BIG, told The Times of Israel. While approval of Israel among American college students dropped 27% between the group’s 2010 and 2016 surveys, Israel’s approval rating among all Americans dropped 14 points, from 76% to 62%.”

      Furthermore, regarding the USA: http://forward.com/news/ national/376097/study-israel- losing-support-among- democrats-minorities- millennials/ The Forward July 2, 2017
      ”Study: Israel Losing Support Among Democrats, Minorities, Millennials ‘It appears that the more Americans learn about Israel, the less they like it.’”

      The Real News, Jan. 25/18
      http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=20982'%20style='color:#000
      “US Bipartisan Support for Israel over Palestinians Is Breaking Down, New Study Shows”
      “The bipartisan consensus of support for Israel over the Palestinians is breaking down in the United States.

      The decline includes American Jews:
      “Support for Israel among American Jewish college students and young American Jews in general is in decline” – Times of Israel, June 21/17:
      http://www.timesofisrael.com/devastating-survey-shows-huge-loss-of-israel-support-among-jewish-college-students/

      https://www.haaretz.com/israel -news/.premium-jewish-agency- chief-warns-young-u-s-jews- more-turned-off-to-israel-1. 5751616
      Haaretz – Jan 22, 2018, by Judy Maltz
      “Young American Jews Increasingly Turning Away From Israel, Jewish Agency Leader Warns”
      “The Jewish Agency’s CEO and director-general called the trend ‘extremely worrisome,’ and said that a new strategy must be undertaken to engage young American Jews with Israel.”

      https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-progressives-welcome-aipac-is-all-just-gaslighting-1.5871623?utm_campaign=newsletter-daily&utm_medium=email&utm_source=smartfocus&utm_content=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.com%2Fopinion%2F.premium-progressives-welcome-aipac-is-all-just-gaslighting-1.5871623

      “Why Young Jews and Democrats Are Waving Goodbye to AIPAC”
      “My generation has only known Israel as an occupier. We won’t back anyone who supports that injustice – including the powerful lobby that is AIPAC”
      By Emily Mayer, March 6, 2018 – Haaretz

  3. amigo
    amigo
    October 4, 2018, 3:24 pm

    Dick and Jane don,t much care as long as they have their house with white picket fence and she has her car and dick has his pick up truck and they can afford a trip to Vegas once in a while.

    What,s the problem if their leaders are selling the USA to the highest bidder.

    Ironically , Dick and Jane will be front and center at Trump,s rallies asserting their love for America and undying patriotism to the cause .

    Sad , at best.

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr
      October 6, 2018, 1:18 pm

      @a

      If you give most of the people in the world enough food, house, pick up truck and enough money to take a family vacation they won’t usually rise up against the government even if the president is a bozo

  4. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    October 4, 2018, 11:51 pm

    “Forever Pure” (2016)
    1h 25min | Documentary | 30 May 2017
    The furor over the addition of two Muslim players to the Beitar Jerusalem soccer club underscores the role of institutionalized racism in Israel.
    Netflix streaming — https://www.netflix.com/title/80148223

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr
      October 6, 2018, 1:19 pm

      Yeah. The Jews playing on Asian and Arab Muslim teams are treated so much better.

  5. DaBakr
    DaBakr
    October 4, 2018, 11:58 pm

    Thanks for pointing out that even a bozo like trump can see that Obama made a deal that he never satisfactorily explained to the American people how it was in American interests. What was supposed to curtail Iranian expansionism into Yemen Iraq, Syria Lebanon and Kurdistan and benefit the Iranian people unsurprisingly made the situation worse. Thanks for also pointing out that European appeasement and cowardice is alive and well and that Europe’s main concern with the bogus Iran deal is to make money and not curtail Iran from its desire to be able to annihilate Israel which is not a strategic, geographic or ideological threat to Persians yet the fanatical mullah tyranny is fixated

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      October 5, 2018, 10:32 am

      DaBakr

      More bafflegab. At least your consistent.

      “Europe’s main concern with the bogus Iran deal is to make money and not curtail Iran from its desire to be able to annihilate Israel which is not a strategic, geographic or ideological threat to Persians yet the fanatical mullah tyranny is fixated.”

      In fact, “Europe’s main concern” is to prevent a war breaking out between the US and Iran, with as usual, “Israel” cheering on from the sidelines. As anyone reasonably familiar with reality knows, apart from the mass slaughter and destruction that would ensue throughout the region, including “Israel”, such a war would lead to Iran sinking and scuttling hundreds of ships in the Strait of Hormuz, which would drive the price of oil into the stratosphere and lead to an international financial disaster.

      Re: “[Iran’s] desire to be able to annihilate Israel.” In fact, Iran has never threatened to initiate a war against the entity known as “Israel.” “Israel,” however, has frequently threatened to do so against Iran.

      I also remind you that in April 2002, the 22 countries comprising the Arab League presented Israel with a unanimously agreed to peace plan known as the Beirut Arab Summit Initiative (28 March 2002.) It calls for a full peace agreement between all members of the Arab League (which includes the Palestinian leadership) and Israel, i.e., full diplomatic recognition, normalization of relations, exchange of ambassadors and open borders in exchange for Israel’s complete withdrawal to the borders of 4 June 1967.

      Acknowledging Israel’s demographic concerns, the Beirut Arab Summit Initiative does not insist on the return of all Palestinian refugees of the 1948 conflict and their descendants to their homes in Israel. Instead, in accordance with policy first enunciated by President Arafat prior to and during the 2000 Camp David Summit, Article II of Paragraph 2 “calls upon Israel to affirm” that it agrees to pursue the “[a]chievement of a just solution to the Palestinian refugee problem to be agreed upon in accordance with UN General Assembly Resolution 194.” (http://www.ruemsy.org.ru/d2005/en20020328_91.htm)

      The Beirut Arab Summit Initiative was also “formally accepted by the [then] ‘supreme leader’ of Iran, Ayatollah Khamenei. [Furthermore, Sheikh] Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah has made it clear that Hezbollah would not disrupt such an agreement if it is accepted by Palestinians [and] Hamas has repeatedly indicated its willingness to negotiate in these terms.” (“On the US-Israeli Invasion of Lebanon” by Professor Noam Chomsky, Znet, August 23, 2006)

      Notably, the Beirut Arab Summit Initiative has also been adopted by the Organization of Islamic States which includes Iran. (Akiva Eldar, “What will happen if Israel ‘defeats’ Obama?” – Ha’aretz, 1 June 2009)

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        October 6, 2018, 1:14 pm

        @m

        If the American people were so for the Iran deal why did Obama go behind congresses back and enter a totally non binding agreement(which Tehran knew was non binding) instead of putting foreign policy to a vote? US Congress was almost universally opposed to deal but once done democrats supported the president. Rhodes admitted he used the press as an echo chamber against Netanyahu. Obama says it was the “best bad deal” whatever the fuck that means. Zionist haters are the o ones who don’t understand what a bad deal means. They only understand that if Israel is against it, for whatever reason, it must be fantastic. That is Zionist jew hating 101.

      • annie
        annie
        October 6, 2018, 1:43 pm

        why did Obama go behind congresses back and enter a totally non binding agreement

        obama didn’t go behind anyone’s back. we have 3 branches of government, the executive branch runs diplomacy. although aipac can push legislation til they are blue in the face, the executive branch doesn’t operate the same way.

        US Congress was almost universally opposed to deal

        no, they were not.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        October 7, 2018, 12:02 am

        @an

        They certainly were before Obama signed the deal. After that, democrats for the most part embraced it as the best deal possible out of all bad deals. When the tyrannical murderous mullah regime took over in 79 the policy towards Israel turned hostile for no other terrain then Israel’s alliance with the Shah. Fair enough. But embarking on a path seeking the destruction of the zionist entity was not based on concern for Palestinians(the Persians are notoriously anti-arab). There was no strategic threat fruition Israel or geographic issue from 800m away. In other words, while the Shah was politically valuable to Israel as an ally, Israel had no reason to seek war or aggression with a new shi’ia regime. Israel wasn’t fighting Shiite Muslims at any time before.

        I stand by my assertion panda never explained why shifting middle east power benefited American capitalist economy

      • annie
        annie
        October 7, 2018, 7:59 am

        They certainly were

        source?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius
      October 5, 2018, 10:58 am

      “Obama made a deal that he never satisfactorily explained to the American people how it was in American interests.”

      And yet surveys showed that the American people were in favour of the deal. And btw has anyone ever shown how uncritical support of, and boundless charity towards, a minor West Asian statelet is in American interests?

      “What was supposed to curtail Iranian expansionism into Yemen Iraq, Syria Lebanon and Kurdistan and benefit the Iranian people unsurprisingly made the situation worse.”

      You just aren’t informed, are you? The JCPOA was about none of these things. It was about stopping Iran’s alleged (very alleged) nuclear programme in return for the lifting of sanctions.

      “Thanks for also pointing out that European appeasement and cowardice is alive and well and that Europe’s main concern with the bogus Iran deal is to make money and not curtail Iran from its desire to be able to annihilate Israel”

      Here’s an interesting little fact for you: No country in Europe – or anywhere else for that matter – owes Israel a thing. Not one tiny little thing. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. They certainly are not required to forego their own interests to appease an increasingly maniacal nuclear-armed statelet and the ever-more delusional rants of its cartoon wielding leader.

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        October 6, 2018, 3:14 pm

        To @DaBakar: From 2016 (60%) to 2017 (60%) to 2018 (66%), polls show a clear majority of the American people have supported and still support the Iran Deal: http://digital.thechicagocouncil.org/america-engaged?_ga=2.226107482.1981351130.1538600399-1817974943.1538139714

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        October 7, 2018, 12:27 am

        @cz

        Maybe it had something to do with Rhodes little ‘obama approved’ echo chamber to fool the american people.? Of course you wouldn’t consider that. luckily Israel still had the power and self control to deal with the teetering mullah tyranny which is completly in line with US interests.

  6. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    October 5, 2018, 12:05 am

    Beitar Jerusalem fans: Here we are, we’re the most racist football team in the country’

  7. RoHa
    RoHa
    October 5, 2018, 2:43 am

    Interesting that Canadians and Mexicans have such negative views of the USA. Looks like a bit of “I knew no harm of Bonaparte, and plenty of the squire”.

  8. Citizen
    Citizen
    October 5, 2018, 8:40 am

    Author of The Apprentice: Trump, Russia & the Subversion of American Democracy, Greg Miller is on CSPAN WJ now talking about how Trump Administration is abandoning USA’s traditional allies.

  9. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    October 5, 2018, 9:30 am

    @DaBakr
    “Thanks for also pointing out that European appeasement and cowardice is alive and well and that Europe’s main concern with the bogus Iran deal is to make money and not curtail Iran from its desire to be able to annihilate Israel which is not a strategic, geographic or ideological threat to Persians yet the fanatical mullah tyranny is fixated”

    Or in the real world outside of the Ziobubble:

    “Thanks for pointing out that American appeasement and cowardice is alive and well and that America`s main concern with the Iran deal is to suck up to the Jewish Lobby and not curtail Israel from its desire to be able to annihilate Iran which has got to be portrayed ad infinitum as a strategic, geographic and ideological threat to the Zionist colony”

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius
      October 5, 2018, 11:04 am

      I made a similar reply above. Like so many Zionists, he believes the rest of the world exists to serve Israel’s interests, but Israel owes nothing to anybody, ever.

      The cult of aggessor victimhood is not a pretty thing.

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr
      October 6, 2018, 12:53 pm

      @o @m

      You both resort to the pee wee herman response so I understand I’m dealing with undeveloped thinking. But last time I checked it was the IRG who tramples the US and Israeli flags when they march, or enter govt buildings. another example of maturity as a regime. Of course “nobody” owes Israel one damn thing because that’s how the international economy works. Jews have worked for thousands of years to control the world economy.

  10. Maghlawatan
    Maghlawatan
    October 6, 2018, 3:53 am

    How much does Zionism spend in DC per year? It is protection money because Israel is still living outside of international law. It is an implicit sign that Israel has taken on too many risks that it cannot manage. 51 years after the 67 war Israel is still winging it.
    Israel will never be normal.

    • DaBakr
      DaBakr
      October 6, 2018, 12:55 pm

      @m

      How much does big oil, big agro, big pharma, Saudis, Chinese and the other lobby groups spend in Washington. It’s all a protection racket. As for how normal Israel is, it really depends on who you ask. tourism is booming as it always has and trade is growing as well. people keep crying about the poison apple but it’s like the boy who cried wolf. most uninvolved people in the world want a negotiated peace and certainly don’t want to be involved in a war.

      P’s. If you want to cite a ten inch litany of reasons for Israel’s abnormality go ahead. But there are at least 1000 other similar comments on here just like it.

      • Maghlawatan
        Maghlawatan
        October 7, 2018, 1:31 am

        Dabakr

        Pharma is #1. Zionism is #2

        I have been thinking about what will bring Israel down for the last 20 years. It is propped up by an elaborate power structure. It needs to stay close to the goy herd to be safe. It needs to manage risk properly. And it can’t. The Temple was never impregnable.

        https://youtu.be/8wl8ZxAaB2E

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        October 8, 2018, 2:45 pm

        The temple was always vulnerable to larger powers.

        I also think your mistaken about big oil, big agro and big insurance sending less then aipac.

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