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Memo to Israeli soldiers: Irish prosecutor charges British soldier for killing unarmed protesters 47 years ago

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Today there was solemn news on the BBC. The prosecutor in Northern Ireland is going to charge a British soldier with murder for two of the 14 killings on Bloody Sunday in Londonderry.

Bloody Sunday was January 1972. Forty-seven years ago.

The families of the victims have never forgotten the fallen. They marched through the streets yesterday. The arc of history is long but sometimes it really does bend toward justice.

The Guardian reminds us that the victims were unarmed protesters. Though there were also militants in the crowd.

The inquiry found the killings were unjustified and that none of the 14 dead was carrying a gun, no warnings were given, no soldiers were under threat and the troops were the first to open fire.

Wikipedia says that the British had a reason to suppress the protests.

The authorities expected that [the plans for the march] would lead to rioting.

You know just where this story is going. Since last March 30th, Israeli soldiers have shot thousands of unarmed Palestinian protesters before the eyes of the world. Or the eyes that aren’t blinded anyway. Some 256 Palestinians have died. Thousands more have been wounded, many of them maimed.

B’Tselem and the United Nations have concluded that the Israeli army is committing war crimes. Last April, B’Tselem took the further step of urging Israeli soldiers not to shoot the protesters, and to refuse their commanders’ orders. Shooting those protesters is unmistakably and patently illegal, B’Tselem said. As if there was any doubt.

We’re coming up on the one-year anniversary of the first Friday’s march in Gaza. Thousands will memorialize that day. Let us hope the Israeli soldiers have read the news from Northern Ireland.

 

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  1. dimadok
    dimadok
    March 14, 2019, 1:31 pm

    Learn the basics.
    Gaza shootings of persons trying or actively engaged in breaching Israel sovereign border, while hurling stones, Molotov cocktails, IEDs are completely justified by military rules of engagement, there were not done under the policing of protesters inside Israel. These reports do not amount to war crime tribunal rulings or conclusions, they are one-sided and therefore subjective. Bloody Sunday shootings were done while policing, not by protecting the border from the mob. Big difference there. Any use of force, while defending a border, is guided by a different set of rules and the main reason for the Bloody Sunday tribunal is that
    ” The inquiry found that none of the casualties were posing a threat or doing anything that would justify their shooting.
    It said no warning was given to any civilians before the soldiers opened fire and that none of the soldiers fired in response to attacks by petrol bombers or stone throwers.”
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-47433319
    Big difference from the riots and border breach at the Gaza.

    • amigo
      amigo
      March 14, 2019, 3:53 pm

      “” The inquiry found that none of the casualties were posing a threat or doing anything that would justify their shooting.”dumaduck

      “The commission found that 35 children had been killed, some from direct weapons fire. The commission also noted one case involving a disabled person in a wheelchair and direct fire at journalists who claimed that they were clearly identified as members of the press. ”

      https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israel-to-open-investigations-into-the-killing-of-11-palestinians-in-gaza-protests-1.7020222

      So dumaduck , what exactly were those 35 children doing to justify (by zionist rules), their killing.
      And what were the Medics and official journalists doing to justify their killing.Killing medical Personnel and journalists is a war crime.

      The Gaza protesters were 1000 meters way from Israel,s so called border as Israel erected a fence on Gazan land and never got near Israel,.s so called border.

      You are still full of it doomaduck.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        March 14, 2019, 7:45 pm

        amigo: “So dumaduck , what exactly were those 35 children doing to justify (by zionist rules), their killing.”

        @ Dimadok
        I’m afraid this question is not handled in the Hasbara script. And you missed the chance to blame Hamas. Try to improvise. For example: “These poor children, if only the Palestinians wouldn’t use them as [cannon fodder/human shields/propagamda victims]”. Don’t forget: We kill them, you blame them.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius
      Maximus Decimus Meridius
      March 14, 2019, 5:56 pm

      ” in breaching Israel sovereign border,”

      a) It’s not a border
      b) An occupied people have the absolute right to resistance, including by armed force.

      Learn the basics.

    • amigo
      amigo
      March 14, 2019, 5:57 pm

      “Big difference from the riots and border breach at the Gaza.” dumaduck.

      As usual dimaduck , the main point went right over your zio kopf.

      Clue===47 years .

    • Talkback
      Talkback
      March 14, 2019, 7:07 pm

      Dimadok: “Learn the basics.”

      Ok, what I have learned from you is that it is legitimate to snipe, injure, cripple and kill unarmed Jews (even more armed Jews) with live ammunition who cross the border into East Jerusalem, Gaza, Westbank and the Golan Heights or have allready breached these borders.

      Anything you like to add?

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      March 15, 2019, 10:45 am

      @dimadok

      Reality:

      Human Rights Watch, 2005: “…Israel will continue to be an Occupying Power [of the Gaza Strip] under international law and bound by the provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention because it will retain effective control over the territory and over crucial aspects of civilian life. Israel will not be withdrawing and handing power over to a sovereign authority – indeed, the word ‘withdrawal’ does not appear in the [2005 disengagement] document at all… The IDF will retain control over Gaza’s borders, coastline, and airspace, and will reserve the right to enter Gaza at will. According to the Hague Regulations, ‘A territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army. The occupation extends only to the territory where such authority has been established and can be exercised’. International jurisprudence has clarified that the mere repositioning of troops is not sufficient to relieve an occupier of its responsibilities if it retains its overall authority and the ability to reassert direct control at will.”

      Video: http://obliteratedfamilies.com/en/story/shuheibar/

      The International Committee of the Red Cross: “The whole of Gaza’s civilian population is being punished for acts for which they bear no responsibility. The closure therefore constitutes a collective punishment imposed in clear violation of Israel’s obligations under international humanitarian law. The Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949, ratified by Israel, bans collective punishment of a civilian population.”

      “In practice, Gaza has become a huge, let me be blunt, concentration camp for right now
      1, 800,000 people” – Amira Hass, correspondent for Haaretz, speaking at the Forum for Scholars and Publics at Duke University, 2015.

      “‘The significance of the [then proposed] disengagement plan [implemented in 2005] is the freezing of the peace process,’ Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s senior adviser Dov Weisglass has told Ha’aretz. ‘And when you freeze that process, you prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, and you prevent a discussion on the refugees, the borders and Jerusalem. Effectively, this whole package called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed indefinitely from our agenda….’ Weisglass, who was one of the initiators of the disengagement plan, was speaking in an interview with Ha’aretz for the Friday Magazine. ‘The disengagement is actually formaldehyde,’ he said. ‘It supplies the amount of formaldehyde that is necessary so there will not be a political process with the Palestinians.’” (“Top PM Aide: Gaza Plan Aims to Freeze the Peace Process,” Ha’aretz, October 6, 2004)

  2. amigo
    amigo
    March 14, 2019, 3:08 pm

    The British Authorities have found themselves a patsy to throw under the bus but his commanders will walk free.Not that I have the slightest bit of sympathy for this guy if he is guilty.Clearly the evidence is strong .

    The most senior Officer in charge that day should have been hauled on the mat the first day when evidence was available in abundance but the British Gov chose to obfuscate and kick the can down the road to avoid bringing the members of their Armed forces who committed war crimes to account.

    There is nothing new here.This is just one of a series of “Bloody Sunday ” massacres carried out by British Forces in Ireland on Sundays , the last one being in 1920 when members of the British forces went on a killing spree in Croke Park in Dublin during a sports event , and shot some 15 civilians (fans) during the game . one of which was a player .This was in retaliation for the killing of 10 British Intelligence agents who had been responsible for the torture and deaths many dozens of Irish people . These assassins had a shoot to kill policy and died the way they lived.

    In fairness to the British Gov , they do not refer to their Armed forces as “The Most Moral Army ” blah blah blah.

    Nope the Light unto the Nations have the franchise on that myth.

    As to the soldier in question , he will walk free .The Morale of the defenders of the realm requires it so.Meanwhile 14 other killers get off without even a slap on the wrist.

    • Bumblebye
      Bumblebye
      March 14, 2019, 7:03 pm

      That senior commander is still alive, 85, said *before* that day, (on radio, still in the archives) that his men would not be standing back and taking whatever demonstrators handed out, lied through his teeth about the victims, and *still* has no regrets or remorse. Probably be able to get the audio thru bbc podcast, R4 news progs from world at one onwards. Why the f hasn’t *he* been charged?!

      • amigo
        amigo
        March 14, 2019, 8:07 pm

        I believe the name is Col Wilfrid .

        He was mentioned on BBC News this evening and they stated that he is upset that any of his subordinates were charged.

        Next story up is the Guildford bombing for which 5 or was it 6 innocent people who spent 15 years in prison until their sentence was overturned.

        The Police officers who lied and withheld evidence that would have cleared the suspects were never brought to task.

        The families of those killed in the bombing are still waiting for justice.

        British Justice my arse.

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