He put the big consequence to Netanyahu’s refusal to agree to a respectable 2SS
oh really, was it a mystery consequence and did he name it? that kind of news bite is good for image/propaganda but has no teeth. i'd think you'd know that. you reference "having Netanyahu in a position he can’t say no either way" but thus far you, as well as trump, have not articulated any consequence. are you now using it to position the nation state law as a response/"defense"? clever, but i am not biting. there's little traction in the 'occupiers/aggressors defending themselves' meme, except for dummies.
Trump has positioned himself, to apply pressure.
his positioning is irrelevant if we all know he won't. get back to me when he's put a consequence on the table, because unlike all the severe pressure he's put on palestinians (jerusalem/unrwa/money etc etc), all he's done is kiss israel's a**, which is why right wing israelis adore trump.
Tried to come across as willing to find the way to a deal while identifying what cannot be agreed to.
palestinians have already identified that: https://mondoweiss.net/2014/04/the-borders-stupid/
i recommend reading the whole article.
Why has that support not translated to political gains is important to get a handle on.
i have a handle on it. money, the lobby, a bought congress.
jon, it's been explained to me that the term jerusalem as it pertains to jewish prayers is a spiritual place vs a physical place. but for those like yourself who think the prayers are referencing an earthly physical location, can you explain to me why, for nearly 2000 years, this longing didn't manifest itself in swarms of jews, putting those longings into action? i just can't figure out why the vast majority didn't go there. i can understand the poor, but what about wealthy jews? why didn't they immigrate for 2000 years if they longed to be there so much? and look at all the jews who immigrated here? why would they do that if they longed to be there (for 2000 years presumably). and when the zionist movement first started, what explains so many jews not jumping on board? why did it require a political movement if the longing had been there for so long, as a physical place that was being prayed to? it doesn't make sense. and when jews were kicked out of spain and england, why not go to jerusalem then? why were they only a 5% minority in the place they longed to be? because that 5% were not prosecuted in palestine for the most part, they lived comfortably. and the arab jews living in iraq, yemen, morocco, iran etc, what took them so long? isn't it reasonable to assume european jews (at a minimum) preferred living in europe during those 2 centuries. because that's a long time to wait around for literally dozens and dozens of generations of jews, if, as you claim, they were longing to change their physical destination. that goes for 1/2 the jews alive today. what's the reasoning for them not moving to israel if, as you claim, this longing exists?
It saddened me to see Abbas and Erekat, lacked the savvy and sophistication to contend with the circumstances.
you mean kowtow to their master? what does that even mean. where i come from showing up on someone's doorstep when the host has already informed you they do not want to host you at that time shows a total lack of savvy or sophistication. trump had just f'd them in the a**, and you expect them to take a call? for what pray tell?
Probably “no respect” should apply to most Americans, all Administrations, all Congresses and media organizations for the last 70 years as well.
if you'd like to neutralize the impact of a president who equalizes nazis w/anti fascists and calls for muslim bans w/'everyone else' in america be my guest. it's not worth counter-arguing. i get it, the palestinians were too uppity for your taste and general protocol for knowing one's place wasn't applied.
My tendency is to analyze based on the political landscape and psychological dynamics.
uh huh. as in What he did on the embassy ... was done. Dealing with Trump requires savvy…. note, Kim.
speaking of psychological dynamics, kim has a nuclear arsenal to play around with.
All Presidents I remember kissed up to Israel to position themselves to make a difference later on.
and they've gotten no where.
Is it your opinion Netanyahu is confident in Trump? Perhaps you know what Trump has in mind, I’m not sure I do.
i think netanyahu has confidence in kushner and friedman. i think what trump has in mind is to do what adelson requests, leave it to bolton, kushner and friedman. to understand what adelson, bolton, kushner and friedman have in mind, just look at groups like one jerusalem, gatestone, the emergency committee for israel, and every extremist right wing zionist talking pt you've ever interacted with, and aipac. palestinians don't really exist, they are not refugees, they should go to jordan, it's all hamas fault, etc etc etc. the colonialist settler mentality. y'know, like emit:
Let them go back. Let them go back to Arabia, to Syria, to Iraq, to Jordan, or anywhere east of the river Jordan. They are not coming to Jaffa and they are not coming to Haifa.
for me, "trump" and "mind" don't really segue. he just tweets weird stuff, knows very little about very little, and follows the money.
I’m uncomfortable moving forward on the necessity to bring America down and see it more reasonable to manipulate it to a better endgame.
you think abbas manipulating the trump admin is more reasonable than turning their noses up. manipulate w/what? their nuclear armament, like kim? i think maybe you're uncomfortable with abbas not going along with the game. maybe you're uncomfortable with the whole world witnessing the slaughter in gaza, the closing of the DC office, the end of UNRWA funding, the blockade of gas to gaza, the humanitarian disaster. is it happening too fast? time to save america's face? palestinians should wear the facade of reasonableness? i can see your point. if i were an israel supporter i'd want that too. but i think those days are over, at least for this admin.
If he plays a good hand, Netanyahu could have to confront our Congress along with the whole world on equality.
you mean our tough as nails congress who continually confront and pressure israel (hold their feet to the fire) over matters of equality and justice. oh yeah, i totally hear you. maybe we could drag this out another century if abbas just got a "good hand".
if i were abbas, i'd thumb my nose at DC and make a b line straight to the ICC. in fact, i think that's what concerns israel. hence, the recent threats against the ICC. none of this is complicated.
Later when I thanked Kaine for that, he, with some excitement said, “Did you notice he gave me the right answer?” This is what I mean by “safe political ground” for a politician to stand on.
because all progressive politicians really care about “safe political ground” and moderate dems (go #resistance!) are scoring big time w/the people. guys like kaine, so impressive, a real progressive when it matters most. did kaine ask freidman a followupup, if israel would every willingly grant equality? of course not. a moot point now after the new nation state law. would kaine ask if equality was off the table? of course not.
where's the loo