Remember when everyone used to worry about inflation? Now the problem is conflation. The Miami Herald reports that, campaigning for the Jewish vote for John McCain in Florida, Joe Lieberman has linked hawkish U.S. activities in the Middle East with Israel’s interests, and Jewish interests.
”The Democratic Party, I believe, respectfully, has left the strongest roots of its foreign policy and national security,” Lieberman said, adding that McCain “has always believed that Israel is our natural ally, from the beginning of its modern existence to this day in the war against Islamic extremists and terrorists.”
So support for Israel’s side in the cycle of violence with the Palestinians is the "strongest roots" of our foreign policy. Once again, an American Jewish public figure conflates Israel’s interests and our own. (And what if you don’t think that Israel is a great democracy–because Arabs can’t serve in the Israeli army? And what if you think our support for these policies has angered and radicalized the Arab world?)
The Miami Herald article is interesting in 2 other ways. First, John Mearsheimer, author of a "controversial" book, is quoted fairly. About time. Though controversial is a smear. What about all the neocon war manuals? Are they controversial now? Were they ever?
Also, note that the Herald devotes 1200 words or more to the Jewish voters in Florida, and good for the Herald; we are sure to see this sort of story echoed in the Times once the general campaign begins. Jewish voters. The fight for Jewish voters in battleground states. But not a word about Jewish money, when it is the battle for Jewish financial support that is crucial to any number of political campaigns. No; the word money is an antisemitic canard…
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Philip – Just wanted to let you know that in an effort to stop the control of the US government by us Jews I have requested that the Obama campaign return to me the $1500 in campaign donations I made to them. My wife is doing the same for the money she donated to Edwards' campaign. It's high time us Jews knew our place and kept our enormous noses out of the democratic process in our own country.
I can hardly imagine how this will all look to a historian (probably Chinese) 50 years from now. It will be hard for any future researcher to understand how Americans could be so foolish as to tie their fortunes to such an albatross as Israel.
In 50 years China, India, and the US will have used up all of the oil and Gas in the Middle East and the world will have little use for those pushy Muslims, much less those pushy Jews. We can then let them just kill each other while we bow down to the corn crop growers in the Midwest who will dictate our foreign and domestic policy
"It will be hard for any future researcher to understand how Americans could be so foolish as to tie their fortunes to such an albatross as Israel."
I don't beleive average Americans have. I beleive influential, wealthy Jewish Zionist fifth columnists have, and that mentally unstable, suicidal, endtimes-cheering Christian Zionists have, and that a corrupt, cynical Washington Establishment has. But all of the above mentioned groups don't represent America. In fact, in many ways, they are the antithesis of America.
It's time for average Americans to separate themselves from these groups because NOT doing so will result in the destruction of America.
Jewish Zionists can and will eventually make Aliya to Israel and so don't really care if America is trashed; average Americans only enjoy citizenship in one country, and so better start fighting tooth and nail to see that it isn't completely destroyed by the sick minds that have already done it so much damage.
I guess we're about to find out if average Americans really do love their children or if they've become too soft and lazy to trouble themselves with saving them from a catastrophic future.
Ed,
I'm afraid you've got it wrong… The average American is much dumber than anybody ever imagined. Whether they are dumb by birth or have been "dumbed" by the media is a moot question, to be solved by future anthropologists (probably Chinese).
The Arab Street isn't very bright, either. But even it has enough horse sense to know that the Zionists are up to no good.
When things get bad enough, average Americans will wise up pretty quickly.
"The Arab Street isn't very bright, either."
Piss off Mr. Ed, you sniveling tossbag
Is that the best you can do, saladin? It just confirms what I wrote.
Sen. Joe Lieberman (Israpendent – Quislington)
The AJC's dossier on Obama is leaked. It "expresses concern." No wonder Obama is ranked last among the candidates in Rosner's who's-good-for-the-jews poll. He can jump through hoops for them, like his recent gratuitous letter to the UN ambassador, but they'll never forget.
http://www.forward.com/articles/12508/
I'm a 25-year old Jewish Male from the Northeast. I'm voting for Obama. 7 of my 10 Jewish friends are also voting for him. That's a higher percentage than of my non-Jewish friends. There may be a split in the American Jewish community across generations, which may mirror a split amongst non-jews. Does anyone have any data on this?
Again, I'm from Minnesota, and I don't see what good America's strong ties to Israel do for the people of the Upper Midwest.
As for putting sanctions on Israel, Phil, first our government would have to end the official economic aid!
Michael Blaine
http://www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com
They probably made it possible for you to operate the computer that you are using.
Intel's second largest research facility is in Israel for example.
Be thankful, rather than resentful.
"They probably made it possible for you to operate the computer that you are using."
Actually Intel was founded by Bob Noyce, a Christian preacher's son from Iowa. So spare us your Jewish triumphalism. I'm still not finished gagging over your beyond incredible assertion of the IDF's superiority over our own(excluding you and yours who would never serve) American military. You know, those guys who were attacked by your heroic IDF on June 6, 1967, in a false flag sneak attack.
It's high time that Lieberman is told that he DOES NOT SPEAK FOR "JEWS", only for ultra-Zionists whose agenda run counter to everything decent in Humanity:
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=8021
They have corrupted the Jewish identity to a point where many young Jews feel sick in their stomach.
A little misrepresentation of my words, Chuck.
If Israelis (and Palestinians) contributed to the development of the chip that you are using, then YOU are benefiting from the relationship of Israel to the US.
Thanks is a more JUST attitude than resentment.
It puts you in a status where your critical comments are actually criticism, rather than demonization.
Richard Witty, you're still kicking around here? Why haven't you made aliya yet? Or are you writing from Israel?
Jewish-American Zionist fanatics and Neocons more loyal to Israel than America are becoming a lethal threat to all Americans. Just look at this report today from AntiWar.com, which suggests that Jewish Zionists such as Grossman, Perle, Wolfowitz and Feith may have been enabling the illegal sale of US nuclear secrets to Turkey in a joint Israeli/Turkey operation…
http://www.antiwar.com/frank/?articleid=12265
…and that the Neocon Bush admin may be retroactively legalizing the sale (and thus engaging in nuclear proliferation itself) in order to protect its treasonous Zionist traitor partners.
As I have said before, Zionism is the spearhead for a fascism and world war. It is a complete ideological system that infects the minds of its adherents the same way that communism did, and turns them against their own countries. Whenever the interests of America and Zionism conflict, one can count on the Zionists to side with their ideology over America, as we have seen time and again. Even many Americans who advertise themselves as "patriots" are infected.
Real patriots who want to ascertain who they can trust and who they cannot should find out any given politician's position on Zionism.
Another "victory" for the lobby
Gandhi Grandson Quits After Criticizing Jews
By: Ben Dobbin on: 27.01.2008 [07:21 ] (326 reads)
ROCHESTER, New York, 27 January 2008 — Mahatma Gandhi’s grandson resigned from the peace institute he co-founded after condemnation of his comments that Israel and the Jews are the biggest players in a culture of violence that “is eventually going to destroy humanity.” Arun Gandhi, the fifth grandson of the revered pacifist, said on Friday that his comments, which were posted on an online forum, were meant “to generate a healthy discussion on the proliferation of violence.”
“Instead, unintentionally, my words have resulted in pain, anger, confusion and embarrassment. I deeply regret these consequences,” Gandhi said. He apologized “for my poorly worded post,” saying he should not have implied that Israeli government policies reflected the views of all Jewish people.
Abraham H. Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, called it “shameful that a peace institute would be headed up by a bigot.” The board of the M.K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence based at the University of Rochester accepted Gandhi’s offer on Thursday to step down as its president.
Gandhi co-founded the institute with his wife, Sunanda, at Christian Brothers University in Memphis in 1991 and relocated it to the University of Rochester campus in June, a few months after her death. Gandhi was on a panel of scholars, writers and clergy who discuss a new topic weekly on The Washington Post’s “On Faith” page and his comments, posted Jan. 7, drew a torrent of criticism, much of it unfavorable. Describing Israel as “a nation that believes its survival can only be ensured by weapons and bombs,” Gandhi asked whether it would “not be better to befriend those who hate you?”
“Apparently, in the modern world so determined to live by the bomb, this is an alien concept,” he wrote. “You don’t befriend anyone, you dominate them. We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews are the biggest players) and that Culture of Violence is eventually going to destroy humanity.” He wrote that the Jewish identity “has been locked into the holocaust experience — a German burden that the Jews have not been able to shed. It is a very good example of (how) a community can overplay a historic experience to the point that it begins to repulse friends. “The holocaust was the result of the warped mind of an individual who was able to influence his followers into doing something dreadful … The world did feel sorry for the episode but when an individual or a nation refuses to forgive and move on, the regret turns into anger.”
The school’s president, Joel Seligman, said in a statement that Gandhi’s resignation was appropriate and his remarks “did not reflect the core values” of the university or the institute.
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4§ion=0&article=106137&d=27&m=1&y=2008
"Intel's second largest research facility is in Israel for example."
I'm not sure what this is supposed to be an example of, but it doesn't matter because it's not true anyway .
What Intel has in Israel is a production plant. These are all over the world, and only require cheap educated labor (and subsidies from the local government). Intel does indeed have eleven large research labs around the globe, but none of them are in Israel. Perhaps you were thinking of Guadalajara, or Bangalore?
http://techresearch.intel.com/articles/None/1475.htm
What I would like to know (but don't really expect to get an answer to) is where do you come upon these canards, Richard? I honestly don't think you're trying to mislead people, but your awareness of the situation is so one-sided that I wonder how it is still possible for an educated person to be so uninformed. Are there web sites that you follow, or newsletters that you trust? Do you have any access at all to non-Jewish perspectives?
Do you ever consder the possibility that the voices telling you about Israel and Palestine might have an axe to grind?
Hitler left his historical physical "print," and his final political testament, actual word print. In his mind, both were consistently based on a defense against the role of Jews in the world as he saw it to the best of his ability. No one can doubt his sincerity in his purpose, however weak his logic applied to all of history. If Hitler would by magic drop in on this, Phil's blog, what would he say? What would Phil say to him?
Actually Charles, I think Hitler would feel right at home here. Not many people would describe Hitler has just being "weak in logic". But I'll grant you this, he was sincere, has are you.
Arabs do serve in the Israeli army. They are just not drafted.
Same goes for American Zionists.
What army are you serving in, eddie?
Everybody happy here that we have a "volunteer" army?
Charles Keating – fan of hitler? Oh dear, What would his mother-in-law think?
Chris Moore, a true patriot, will ignore your pathetic pleas to spare your little jewish kiddies (Chris of course will use the Nazis' standards for jewishness) and carry out his patriotic duties to neutralize all them jooooooos. Such irony, huh Charlie?
LOL
Lewellyn, I think you've watched 'Schindler's List' one too many times. You've worked yourself into a state of hysteria, just like the Neocons.
I'm wondering: have you also found a way to financially profit from your "cause," as have they? (Oye, the depths to which some people will stoop for a few shekels.)
"They probably made it possible for you to operate the computer that you are using.
Intel's second largest research facility is in Israel for example.
Be thankful, rather than resentful."
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Israel ranks benefit to Israel over ALL other concerns so I'm resentful of the espionage possibilities of the Intel/Israel connection.
I'm English, I used to support Israel but I don't now! Why? The massive military and intellectual supiority of the Jews in Palestine is out of context and obscene! The Jewish People developed their intelligence in Europe, they kept themselves separate, in the same way that the Levites were higher than the other Tribes, and therefore like any pyramid minority at the top i.e. the Aristocracy or the Middle Classes, they are vunerable to attack from the Mob. I.e.the Nazis. But , having suffered that, in the same way that the French Aristocracy did, there is no right to occupy a land like Palestine.
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