Some are cynical about the 2-state solution. Why?

AC writes:

Peace Now just released a report which found that settlement growth has increased 69% in 2008 as compared to 2007.
A similar report was issued by the group in August of 2008.

A similar report was issued by the group in March of 2008.

A similar report was issued by the group in October of 2007.

A similar report was issued by the group in April of 2007.

A similar report was issued by the group at the end of 2006.

A similar report was issued by the group in August of 2006.

A similar report was issued by the group in June of 2006.

A similar report was issued by the group in March of 2006.

A similar report was issued by the group at the end of 2005.

Here are some excerpts from the Jerusalem Post article on the latest report:

While the government's policy has been to allow settlement growth in areas of the West Bank that Israel is likely to retain under any final status agreement with the Palestinians, Peace Now has charged that 39 percent of the growth in 2008 was outside those areas.

...Dani Dayan, who heads the Council of Jewish Communities of Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip, said in response that he was glad the group was documenting settlement growth.

"We are grateful to Peace Now for investing the funds they receive from European [governments] in documenting the most important Zionist endeavor of our generation, the settlement of Judea and Samaria."

And yet, one would be hard-pressed to find an Israeli, American, British, French, Russian, Egyptian, Saudi Arabian, Fatah, UN, EU, or Quartet figure who doesn't stress the need to "reaffirm the importance of" or "acknowledge the necessity of" or "praise the progress of" the two-state solution or the peace process.

Even Netanyahu is a two-stater. In fact, he could be considered the most honest and barefaced of the whole heap, for at least he explicates what is meant by a two-state solution.

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  1. Susie Kneedler says:

    What is meant by a "Two-State Solution" is:

    1. A state for Israel.

    2. Reservations for Palestine, as in the American West for the indigenous Americans.

  2. Susie Kneedler says:

    And, off-topic, because I can't get the Davos page to accept my comment:

    Brilliant, Phil.

    And David Ignatius disgustingly SUPPORTED the attack on Iraq so he is not a fair arbiter:

    "Get Ready for the American Ninjas [what a barbarous headline, SK]
    Feb 25, 2003

    The Iraq war is just and defensible: Taking arms to depose a dictator who twice has attacked neighboring countries, tortures his own people and lies to the United Nations is precisely what a responsible international community should do. But the administration's efforts to rally support for war have been dangerously inept, and [Donald Rumsfeld] has been a principal culprit. The administration's mistakes have now produced so much opposition that the United States will face serious political problems in the future, no matter how quick or decisive the victory in Iraq."

    link to pqasb.pqarchiver.com

  3. jim byers says:

    there is another post in Haaretz. It explains how all this has been kept secret.

    link to haaretz.com

  4. Tommy says:

    Are most of the settlers Americans? If so, they need to be returned to the US and tried under the same laws that sent John Walker Lindh to prison for twenty years.

  5. cha says:

    Here's the FT article on Bibi's two-state vision–
    link to forum.atimes.com

  6. D. says:

    As commenter CJHarwood reminded us in an earlier thread, the Peace Now report is misleading in its own way. By using the 280,000 figure, it perpetuates the lie that the East Jerusalem settlers are somehow not just as illegal.

  7. citizen says:

    Liindh –nothing lke an American goy to carry the heat. Jewish Americans get to play free. That's how it is. Goys are ignorant;

  8. chris berel says:

    They've merely returned to the areas that the palestinians ethnically cleansed of Jews back in the late 40's.

    Are you against those indigenous Jews returning to their neighborhoods?

  9. Rowan says:

    indigenous. this berel has no shame.

    talking of shame, the argument due to be used next is that we cannot prevent the settlements (all, all, all of them, up to the hilltops) from experiencing 'natural growth' (nudge, nudge, wink, wink – you can't forbid them from fucking, can you? ha ha ha).

    this is normal israeli psyops.

  10. Jaffr says:

    Berel, you are a real shamelessly lying piece of shit.

    "Are you against those indigenous Jews returning to their neighborhoods?"

    "Indigenous Jews"? from the Iron Age?

    Yes, there were a very few areas of Jewish settlements in the West Bank and parts of the Old City that were evacuated after 1948, but minuscule compared to the 500 villages and urban neighborhoods (including in West Jerusalem) that were ethnically cleansed by the Zionists.

    Sure, the Zionists can "return" to the odd kibbutz in the West Bank if the Palestinians can return to Jaffa and Lyd and Ramla and Haifa and Carmel and Majdal and their neighborhoods in West Jerusalem and hundreds of bulldozed villages. . .

    But that's not what you mean, is it?

  11. chris berel says:

    So you're saying that because more palestinians then Jews were forced from their homes, the Jews who were have no rights?

    Seems faintly racist to me.

    And are you also stating that if you didn't live there at or before the time of the "Iron Age", you also have no rights?

    I'd say you've just terminated every Arabs claim.

    Thanks.

  12. Julian says:

    Good source, Peace Now, proven liars and slanderers.
    "The court found the three defendants guilty. Besides ordering them to apologize, Justice Barclay ruled that they must pay the Fund for Redeeming the Land 20,000 shekels plus tax. The group's apology must be public, and must be published in both Maariv and Haaretz."

    link to israelnationalnews.com

  13. tert says:

    Why not a 3-STATE solution on palistina ?

    Help the westbank and shut off Gaza. The stick and the carrot. Palestinians will SEE a better westbank.

    Make of (some parts of) palestina example regions by massive support.
    A few cheap truckloads western overproduction will convince more, it should be really more.

    West must not set a unachievable myth goal where no one actual in believes.
    Let palestinians really SEE what the good alternative is on running around with green towels and machine guns.
    You can't blame any side for being sceptic and not believing in words an myths.