Is it election season? Laura Rozen reports that Dennis Ross, the Obama aide at large, and really a representative of the Israel lobby, went to AIPAC in Florida to talk about Iran etc. Read the speech and you will see all the talk about the joint exercises with Israel and fighting delegitimization. Delegitimize appears twice. So the world is turning against Israel, but we're not, Ross is assuring the Israel lobby. People are afraid, they hear footsteps.
This administration’s commitment to Israel has also been demonstrated in our work to defeat efforts in international organizations to single out or delegitimize Israel. Most recently, we successfully coordinated the opposition to a resolution at the IAEA General Conference singling out Israel’s nuclear program for rebuke. ...
I don’t have time to go through how we are working intensively to jump-start negotiations today, but I do want to close with a couple of points about the need for peace and the importance for both sides to take the strategic and historic decisions that are required to preserve a two-state solution before it is too late.
Two questions: Why is it singling out Israel at the IAEA when Israel is the only power in the Middle East with actual nuclear weapons? If you're talking about nuclear weapons in the Middle East then you have to talk about Israel.
Also, preserving a two-state solution "before it is too late." What follows if we don't get there? I don't think we will. So what's next, Dennis?
“”Why is it singling out Israel at the IAEA when Israel is the only power in the Middle East with actual nuclear weapons? If you’re talking about nuclear weapons in the Middle East then you have to talk about Israel.”"
++++ When has US attacked or done serious complain to ally ? Even when those allys are dictators….
“”Also, preserving a two-state solution “before it is too late.” What follows if we don’t get there?”"
++++ Happens that same ol’ . “Arabs left voluntarily”. And guns were pointing to their direction, if they try to come back.
“When has US attacked or done serious complain to ally ? Even when those allys are dictators”
At the end of WW2 the U.S. had pretty high moral authority in much of the world. Onr of the factors that destroyed that was the consistent support the U.S. gave to any nasty dictator who claimed to be “anti-communist”.
how did you feel about the occupation of australia by american army, roha? i am working on a project about same and wonder about aussie attitudes toward it
What occupation of Australia are you referring to Phillip?
While there was a natural antagonism towards American troops, Americans have always been popular by and large in OZ. The presence of US intelligence bases here has been largely forgotten.
ww2. some aussies called it an occupation…
That’s long before my time, but I’ve lived here since 1976 and never heard the presence of the US military here referred to as such.
Like I said, there was some antagonism towards Americans, mainly because of their philandering ways with women. Nevertheless, until the early 80′s, most Australians would have happily become part of the US if given the chance.
WW2? Before I was born.
I do get fed up with our Governments consistent policy of tagging along behind the US on nearly every one of its loony wars.
There was some friction because US troops in transit were better paid than the Australian Army, had access to more and superior goods via the PX, and the black US troops gave the Australian natives hope of something better for themselves. A small percentage of young Australian woman preferred the GIs to their own soldiers because of these differences, which could be seen on the weekends especially, which suddenly became night life party time whereas traditionally, the Aussies closed up shop for the weekends. There was one big street brawl between the respective troops; otherwise, merely a source of tension during (especially) weekend passes for both sets of troops.
“Why is it singling out Israel at the IAEA when Israel is the only power in the Middle East with actual nuclear weapons?”
Israel is not the only country on Earth with nuclear weapons. I think you can acknowledge that it’s a pretty old tactic of the Arab League and the OIC to stick Israel on the agenda in fora that have nothing to do with Israel for political reasons.
“Also, preserving a two-state solution “before it is too late.” What follows if we don’t get there? I don’t think we will. So what’s next, Dennis?”
Maybe, instead of childishly referring to Dennis Ross as part of the “Israel lobby”, you should acknowledge that he’s trying to do the hard work of building public support for peace negotiations around the solution that is enshrined in international law through UNSC Resolution 242 and endorsed by most of the rest of the world. And maybe part of that is speaking to people in Florida.
“Israel is not the only country on Earth with nuclear weapons.”
Who said it was? The claim was that Israel is the only power in the ME with nuclear weapons. Israel, Pakistan, India and North Korea are the only countries that have not signed the NPT (or withdrew their signature, as is the case with NK). Whether Pakistan is in the ME or not depends on your definition of ME. If yes, Israel is one of two ME non-signatory countries with nuclear weapons. If not, Israel is the only one. Your choice. Either definition presents a problem wrt nuclear proliferation in the ME or elsewhere. Remember the rumors about nuclear arms deals between Israel and Apartheid SA.
Dennis Ross’ position as Ziegler ‘Distinguished’ Fellow at WINEP (the only Zionist organization more deserving of the title ‘warmongering nest of treason’ is JINSA) proves card-carrying membership in the Israel Lobby. His role as co-convener of WINEP’s Strengthening the Partnership,
How to Deepen U.S.-Israel Cooperation on the Iranian Nuclear Challenge shows where his loyalties lie. A quick glance at the title reveals that the objective is to shackle US to Israeli interests, not to solve the problem in the way that best serves Americans. Also note that Thomas Donilon, Pres. Obama’s new National Security Advisor, was a participant.
ROFL. You and Ross must be reading a different version of UNSC Resolution 242 than the rest of the planet.
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M.J. Rosenberg on Dennis Ross’ stinktank alma mater, WINEP:
Steve Walt Exposes WINEP/AIPAC’s Satloff
“Israel is not the only country on Earth with nuclear weapons. ”
Way to go Hophmi. In the absence if anything sensible to say, just throw a Hasbra tantrum that the world doesn’t live you.
“I think you can acknowledge that it’s a pretty old tactic of the Arab League and the OIC to stick Israel on the agenda in fora that have nothing to do with Israel for political reasons.”
Right Hophmi. What other explanation would there be for bringing up theb existing of nukes in the Middle East at a conference on creating a nuclear free zone in the region?
“Maybe, instead of childishly referring to Dennis Ross as part of the “Israel lobby”, you should acknowledge that he’s trying to do the hard work of building public support for peace negotiations around the solution that is enshrined in international law through UNSC Resolution 242 and endorsed by most of the rest of the world. And maybe part of that is speaking to people in Florida.”
You tell em Hophmi.
Why should the fact that Ross is on Israel’s payroll fir a lobby (that is opposed to a 2 state solution) or that he’s known in Washington circles as Israel’s lawyer. Why should that Demi USB his credibility?
After all, he did such a sterling job at Camp David right Hophmi? It was his proposal at Camp David that even the Israeli Foreign minister at the time, described as unacceptable to Palestinians.
I think you need to cut back on the Ziocaine. It sounds like you overdosed today.
hophmi should change his handle to tu quoque
It’s downright amazing to watch how Zionist apologists can squirm and writhe and twist and flop just to evade the plain truth about Israel.
“It’s downright amazing to watch how Zionist apologists can squirm and writhe and twist and flop just to evade the plain truth about Israel.”
Consummate art next to whom make-up art look like finger painting..
“Consummate art next to whom make-up art look like finger painting..”
Baaah!… Next to which, rather
For anyone interested, here is the draft resolution proposed at the IAEA conference that Ross is so proud of quashing.
link to iaea.org
According to Ross, asking Israel to sign the NPT and follow IAEA safeguards is “delegitimizing” Israel
Thanks for the report on Dennis “The Menace” Ross.
Obama having picked Ross to be in charge of the negotiating on the Iran file was as obscene as his accepting the Nobel. Ross is a rabid career Zionist and looks out for Israeli interests more than Israelis themselves and spends most of his time demonizing Iran so of what negotiating use could he be?
By picking Ross as his special consultant for Middle East affairs Obama has opted to continue the neocon agenda in that region. Did Obama know when he made that decision Ross’s already outstanding legacy? Or did he defer to Rahm and Axlerod because he didn’t know crap about the Middle East and wanted to concencrate on his redistributive health plan? You decide: link to antiwar.com
Dennis Ross Israel’s lawyer and representative. Period. Really telling that Obama has Ross has one of his main officials in this arena. Ross is all Israel no matter what they do.
For fans of Dennis Ross, his Iran Plan discussed in The Nation in April 2009. It details Ross’ illustrious Zionist-inclined career and the absurdity of having him appointed to the Iranian post by Obama:
link to thenation.com