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Noted Arab expert Martin Peretz is back, spouting racist generalizations, at the ‘Daily Beast’

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He’s back! Martin Peretz, the rabid supporter of Israel who left the New Republic in disgrace after saying “Muslim life is cheap,” and lots of anti-Arab comments —

The “general afflictions of Arab politics are the principal resistance to compromise . . . the endless patience for vengeance.”

is given a platform at the Daily Beast to spout— well, lots of generalizations about Arabs! They’re given to fantasy and metaphor and fratricide and women don’t count to them. The usual spiteful tone runs throughout his column, which is about Obama’s peace initiative coming to nothing, because of– the Arabs, of course. Peretz:

Egypt has for the moment robbed the headlines from Syria, although the Syrian fratricide is still the real measure of Arab politics….

Targeting fellow Arabs is what Arabs have been doing for many decades. In 1938, George Antonius—Lebanese born, Egyptian raised, British schooled, Palestine domiciled—published a book called The Arab Awakening, arguing the essential unifying nationalism of the otherwise religiously sundered Arabs. The volume became their bible against Zionism. It was popular in England and the United States. It even attracted the support of wealthy Judeaophobic Americans, who influenced Nicholas Murray Butler, president of Columbia University, to offer Antonius a job. Col. Gamal Abdel Nasser took from the book’s tenets his ambition to unite the Arabs, finally joining his own country, Egypt, with Syria and North Yemen in the United Arab Republic. The union lasted all of three years. Then he initiated the disastrous Six-Day War against Israel. Such armed action with Israel is now utterly unfeasible. So the Arabs are driven to fantasy and metaphor…

All that is left of Obama’s diplomacy in the Middle East is John Kerry’s stubborn and heroic effort to keep its Israel-Palestinian scope alive. Despite the rhetorical mischief coming out of certified troublemakers in the Israeli government, Netanyahu is ready to go not perhaps the extra mile, but the extra half mile. The Palestinians, however, are aware that all of their Arab brothers—there are no relevant sisters!—are otherwise engaged. This is the moment of truth for the Arabs of Palestine, perhaps the last moment. They will have to sign on to what Israel will give up. Obama cannot help them. And it might just be that, after all of the soppy rhetoric about the disinherited people, he also doesn’t really care.

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  1. bilal a
    bilal a
    July 18, 2013, 2:29 pm

    gawker on the Ernst Rohm of the Neocon Sturmabteilung :

    Peretz’s life has sort of fallen apart over the last year. Though he has been an avowed bigot for most of his adult life, he has only been held to account for his ethnic hostility to Arabs and Persians recently, when he wondered aloud on his New Republic blog “whether I need honor these people and pretend they are worthy of the privileges of the First Amendment, which I have in my gut the sense that they will abuse.” The “these people” were Arabs, for whom Peretz also said “life is cheap” (he later apologized for the First Amendment line). The naked racism of the sentiment caused even some of Peretz’ oldest friends to hang their heads in shame, and served as an ignominious cap to his career. He and his wife divorced in 2009 (they had been separated since 2005), and late last year he stepped down as the New Republic’s titular editor-in-chief and moved to Tel Aviv, where he teaches high school students and is active on the social circuit (he still maintains residences in New York City and Cambridge, Mass.).

    http://gawker.com/5742857/why-wont-anyone-tell-you-that-marty-peretz-is-gay

    • marc b.
      marc b.
      July 18, 2013, 5:18 pm

      Ernst Rohm. funny. this is the septuagenarian with the 20-something ex- (*cough*) IDF boyfriend. I have read about the booming trade in male GI Joe-like prostitutes that are the rage in DC. seems like an interesting psychological angle to the chicken hawk syndrome, what with publicly hyper macho douche bag clients like certain reporters and senators so-and-so.

      • bilal a
        bilal a
        July 19, 2013, 7:09 am

        How much of NSA surveillance is directed at the McConnells and Lindseys , the Spitzers, Weiners, and Petraeus-Allens? Surveillance is Blackmail which is why Prez Carter no longer considers the USA to be a functioning democracy, and as Justin Raimondo points out, this is a left wing phenomenon, the Trotskyites in the neocon and establishment left :

        although the liberties of our cousins across the Atlantic are in a much more advanced stage of degeneration. There the most elementary rights, such as free speech, are no longer operative, and politically this is fully supported by what passes for the British “left.” They have actually set up a government-media commission to decide how to regulate all media content in the UK, and, meanwhile, the EU, a supra-national authority with ultimate decision-making powers over the British people, has even more draconian “speech codes” that regulate what one may say on certain subjects
        ….

        Aside from the faculty lounges of certain American campuses, where does a political base for a real authoritarian regime in America – a “democratic” despotism that retains the forms of democracy, minus their content – actually exist?

        I’ll tell you where it exists: in a good part of the base that fervently supported the election of Barack Obama, which we are now seeing coming out in favor of universal surveillance: the Obama cultists and the neocons. Extreme Democratic partisans have been among the most vicious calumniators of Snowden and the reporting team that divulged the details of the NSA’s global spying operation, rivaling and often surpassing the routinely vicious neocons in their ferocious denunciations of the “traitor” Snowden.

        http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2013/07/18/is-america-a-free-country-2/

  2. American
    American
    July 18, 2013, 2:58 pm

    Peretz is back because the zios, including the libs ones, even though secure in their ownership of our government, see they are bit by bit losing their grip on the public, some flashpoints like the universities, Palestine and Muslim voices poping up here and there.
    The more hyper and reckless they get with vicious talk and attack dogs —the more we can tell they are feeling the pressure.
    Let them scream, rant and rave, …all the better for our side.

    • seafoid
      seafoid
      July 18, 2013, 4:40 pm

      “The more hyper and reckless they get with vicious talk and attack dogs —the more we can tell they are feeling the pressure.”

      Da da da da da da

  3. wondering jew
    wondering jew
    July 18, 2013, 5:56 pm

    Peretz is back, because he ran the New Republic for thirty or was it forty years. So they let him talk. Some of his earlier stuff is racist and I accept that people here hate him and disdain him, but I don’t.

    The current state of the Arab Spring is discouraging. Two and a half years ago I drew an analogy between the Arab Spring and a 15 year old. The 15 year old, suddenly aware of his own power, but also scared, not entirely in control of his impulses. Well at this point, the 15 year old is under curfew (in Egypt) and actually bleeding profusely in Syria. The idea that sectarian violence is natural smacks of racism, but to tell you the truth I have no idea what to make out of Shiite versus Sunni animus and am nowhere expert enough to toss Peretz’s assumptions aside. Sure I hope for an evolution towards a better world: Evolution from dictators to democrats, from mullahs to modernity, from sectarianism to pluralism is the fantasy.

    But in the end I find myself wishing for the evolution of a part of the world that I don’t sufficiently understand and I have no idea whether the odds against are as formidable as they seem or whether the urge for freedom can find a path towards freedom and tolerance and order and prosperity. But meanwhile getting back to the analogy to the 15 year old, between Syria and Egypt, the Arab Spring is seriously heading towards juvie hall and not graduation and the first generation to go to college. But I am not surprised that it will take time.

    Peretz has a short cut answer to all the problems of the Arab world and it provokes me into wondering whether with enough study I could come up with a theory or two of my own. Meanwhile the superficial knowledge I possess is not enough to dismiss Peretz’s theories, although I don’t swallow them whole either. Maybe those of you who have sufficient knowledge of the Arab world can dismiss his theories as merely narrow minded, but I found the column useful. I hope ten or twenty years will prove Peretz wrong and “can’t we all just get along?” will be answered in the affirmative by the Arab world. But for the moment, his thoughts provoke me usefully.

    • tokyobk
      tokyobk
      July 18, 2013, 9:03 pm

      Yonah, in 1951 General Douglass referred to Japan as (compared to the mature Germans) having been like a 12 year old. He was not trying to be offensive, in fact what he was probably saying was that while the Germans were culpable because the should know better, the Japanese were just begging to mature as a modern civilization when they stampeded Asia. (He was also at the time trying to shore up a complete annihilation and take over of Northern Korea).

      As you can probably tell, though it was a bigoted comment which underestimated the Japanese who ten years later began their path to revolutionizing world industry.

      Don’t underestimate any group and certainly not with this kind of self referential yardstick of “age.”

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        July 19, 2013, 2:15 am

        Tokyobk- Hello.
        I realize that the yardstick of age would be considered demeaning (it is not self referential. I was not like that at 15. but I observed what most kids were like at that age.) And I can understand that when a dictator (in the best sense of the word) like MacArthur uses it, it reflects badly upon himself and on the US.
        I use the analogy, not because I think it is great, but because I have no other analogy on hand to replace it. My mind is simple and it enjoys or needs analogies. If you have a different analogy that I can try on for size, I am willing to ditch my analogy for a new one. But until it is dislodged, it is lodged.

      • SQ Debris
        SQ Debris
        July 20, 2013, 5:12 pm

        Here’s a different analogy to help you dislodge your paternalist generalization: The Arab world is like a person who has been bound and gagged so that thieves can steal his property and has finally managed to free a hand and scratch FREEDOM in the dirt.

      • NoMoreIsrael
        NoMoreIsrael
        July 21, 2013, 12:39 am

        I got a PERFECT analogy for you. The Israelis are like the Scientology cult. They regard the entire non-Israeli world as bitter enemies as well as fools, despite the fact that their leaders are international gangsters with lengthy criminal records and their people are hyper-nationalist robots. You can’t reason with Israelis because, like Scientology ideologues, they’re completely nuts and lie about everything as a matter of course. Whenever they are engaged in yet another hair-raising scandal of their own making, they play the victim card, even though almost no one is still around who is naive enough to buy into their sickening subterfuge.

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      July 19, 2013, 5:00 am

      So, what do you make of the 65 year old geezer, Israel, still engaged in her cycle of abuse of those 15 year olds? About time for an intervention by some mature professionals from outside?

    • Shegetz
      Shegetz
      July 19, 2013, 8:59 am

      Yes, it’s an especially foolish comment considering the culture in question is no less than 5,000 years old.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        July 19, 2013, 9:44 am

        Shegetz- So given that Egypt is 5000 years old, how do you explain the tumult? If you have a different handle on the situation, why not share it?

      • American
        American
        July 19, 2013, 11:52 am

        yonah says:
        July 19, 2013 at 9:44 am

        Shegetz- So given that Egypt is 5000 years old, how do you explain the tumult? If you have a different handle on the situation, why not share it?>>>

        How do you explain the tumult of Jewish history?
        A) the tumult of Jewish history was caused by others cause our culture was perfect and had no problems.
        or
        B) the tumult of Jewish history was caused by others cause our culture was perfect and had no problems
        or
        C) I refuse to answer on the grounds I might incriminate myself and validate my obtuseness.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        July 19, 2013, 12:18 pm

        american- the tumult as in Zionism is easily explained as an attempt to use colonialism as a means to escape powerlessness. the tumult as in the hatred stirred in the hearts of Hitler or the disdain of the czars, is primarily caused by a clash of cultures, a nomadic separatist culture and the specific culture of the russian peasants is the culture that I have in mind. as far as hitler goes, I’d call it, German romanticism meets the heart of darkness clashes with the famous nation of contradictions, as the old school yields to the modern age, a bloodbath was called for by those gotterdamurang nuts of darkest central europe.

    • American
      American
      July 19, 2013, 11:38 am

      ‘Meanwhile the superficial knowledge I possess is not enough to dismiss Peretz’s theories, ‘…yonah

      You’re right you dont. And I dont either, but you might try viewing the whole arc of history of the ME, from the cradle of civilization in many respects, from pinnacles to dissolutions and invasions and population rearrangements.
      How different do you think the Arab world morphs are from say the return of some US states pushing to secede from the US Union today in 2013? ..and hell we’re not even 5000 years old yet….. no telling what kind of things will happen in another 4500 years or what we will be like then.
      And how about those Jews whose hierarchy is still stuck in it’s primitive tribalism of ancient times?

      And this?….”I hope ten or twenty years will prove Peretz wrong and “can’t we all just get along?” will be answered in the affirmative by the Arab world. ”

      Dont ask for whom the bell tolls it tolls for you.
      Maybe you ought to be more worried about why your tribe cant answer affirmatively to ‘cant we all just get along’ .
      I am certainly worrying about why my US tribe cant.

    • marc b.
      marc b.
      July 19, 2013, 4:03 pm

      thanks, traveling, for the potted, handwringing feigned ignorance of the sociology of ‘mooslims’. some quick points: 1. few revolutions, if that is what this is, are week-long, bloodless adventures. so the fact that Egypt hasn’t transformed itself into Sweden in the length of a trial subscription to ‘People’ magazine isn’t evidence of anything. (see e.g. the American and French revolutions, and the weak, wobbly-kneed, bloody democracies they produced.) 2. you aren’t watching a microbe under a microscope. Drs. Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc. are meddling in Syria, and while the US and Israel whinge on about the insufficiently robust democratic impulse in Syria and elsewhere, they actively support the most backward, grotesque anti-democratic forces, intentionally undermining the nascent democracy they pray for. (Haiti has failed to develop into a healthy nation state not due to the genetic weaknesses of ‘negroes’, but because france, the US and so on have had their collective boots on its throat for 200-plus years.) 3. peretz is an racist and an ignoramus. he’s incapable of even noticing the contradiction of his smirking over the deaths of arabs while simultaneously criticizing the inhumanity of those same people. Israelis are inherently more humane than ‘arabs’? are these the same Israelis who have schoolchildren painting messages on ordinance being lobbed into Lebanon or Gaza? or the same Israelis whose best and brightest are calculating the length of time it will take a Palestinian child to starve under the blockade? please. there is nothing complex or ungraspable about what peretz is doing. he’s the literary equivalent of a dung beetle, pushing the same pile of crap with him wherever he goes.

      • wondering jew
        wondering jew
        July 19, 2013, 7:10 pm

        marc b. – the american revolution was not a real revolution compared to the french revolution or the russian revolution. it was a revolt of colonialists against the mother country. that’s really different than the french or russian revolution.

        the first russian revolution, kerensky, was potentially great, but along came lenin and turned it to crap.

        the french revolution was half decent, if it turns out that way (le duc tho? chou en lai?) but robespierre and the guillotine was a bunch of sick crap.

        the tough part to handle or categorize regarding the egyptian (arab) revolution is the role of religion, whereas the french and russian revolution were explicitly anti religion and because of this difference the analogy breaks down. i understand the rebellion against imperialism and the modern culture which is a type of imperial product import to the lands of the arabic speakers and the expression of islam as a reaction to the west, i understand that. but the role of islam as expressed by morsi and those who suspect erdogan of similar antidemocratic sentiments. it’s tough to know. sectarianism is not like anything that i’ve experienced in america. so shiites bombing sunnis and visa versa, i don’t really understand that, because it’s so foreign to me. in many ways the adolescence analogy is not useful, but then again if you read william james, maybe the religious type has an adolescent phase as well, so it might have its point. how can i compare russian, french and arabic revolutions when the russian and french revolution came after luther and came after the encyclopedists of france, and russian after the nihilistic atheists of russia and their bombs are a given, but how to attach bombs to the religious, this is something very foreign to the french and russian revolution.

        so mark b.- i consider your explanation insufficient and until you clarify it to my satisfaction i’m going to keep on trying to grasp it on my own and my grasping will include comments which you will diss and that seems to give you some satisfaction. have a good time.

      • marc b.
        marc b.
        July 20, 2013, 12:16 pm

        1. so you’ve read martin malia’s history’s locomotives or some similar comparative analysis of the various revolutions. good for you. nonetheless, the American revolution was a revolution, not simply a revolt or rebellion as malia puts it, comparing it, erroneously to the ‘sixteenth century netherlands revolt.’
        2. the sectarian violence in the ME is not entirely dissimilar to the violence meted out by American revolutionaries against colonial loyalists, or the intimidation and assassination of insufficiently militant Zionist jews carried out by pre-48 ‘israelis’. sectarian violence also isn’t particularly surprising or the result of some unique muslim pathology, as it is encouraged by the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and others. (if Lebanese agents were setting off car bombs in tel aviv and generally meddling in Israel internal politics, it wouldn’t take long before secular and religious forces in Israel were at each others throats.)
        3. there is no cultural, historical, or political mystery as to why the evolution of ‘democratic’ institutions in the ME have been retarded. the evolution is undermined at every turn, in every country. it was undermined in iran in 53 on the pretext of anti-communism; it has been repeatedly undermined in Egypt on the pretext of anti-communism, anti-clericalism, etc.; it has been undermined in Algeria; it’s undermined in Saudi Arabia and the other gulf states, where the US helps maintain the authority of the degenerate ‘royalty’.
        4. peretz is a racist pig. there is nothing of value in his so-called inquiry into islam. if there is any value at all in his rantings, it’s purely from a psychological standpoint.

    • annie
      annie
      July 21, 2013, 3:27 am

      The idea that sectarian violence is natural smacks of racism, but to tell you the truth I have no idea what to make out of Shiite versus Sunni animus and am nowhere expert

      you do not have to be an expert yonah, follow your initial instincts. sectarian violence as natural does smack of racism because it is racist.

      Two and a half years ago I drew an analogy between the Arab Spring and a 15 year old. The 15 year old, suddenly aware of his own power, but also scared, not entirely in control of his impulses.

      while the ‘spring’ may be young, the arab culture is not. it’s an old wizened soul aware of it’s own power, thru the youth.

  4. Mayhem
    Mayhem
    July 18, 2013, 9:56 pm

    This is being televised on Egyptian TV and the moderators are preventing me from telling you about it. I will keep trying to post it because it is relevant and very pertinent to the current discussion. It tells us about Arab mentality and how that impedes conflict resolution.
    Watch the youtube video at http://www.youtube.com about the latest sensation on Egyptian TV. This virulent material plainly reinforces the fact that Muslim anti-Semitism is a major obstacle to progress in the region. We see Arab Muslims resorting to the same foul anti-Semitic tactics that were used by the Nazis.
    Why is there no concern expressed about this kind of incitement on MW?Why aren’t the supposedly socially concerned individuals around here appealing to organisations like Human Rights Watch and Amnesty to condemn this TV series?
    If anybody cares they can sign the petition at https://www.change.org/petitions/human-rights-ngos-condemn-upcoming-antisemitic-khaybar-ramadan-mini-series or join the Facebook campaign at https://www.facebook.com/CondemnKhaybar to condemn this imminent mass incitement against Jews that is being broadcast to hundreds of millions of Arabs.
    This offensive garbage perpetuates the kind of hatred that is a gigantic obstacle to peace and reconciliation, because it closes the minds of people to rationality – they become the victims of media brainwashing that destroys any prospects for understanding and acceptance of the other.
    To be ignoring this crucial damage to prospects for peace and understanding and instead be harping on continually about settlements and bringing up the old bogey of colonialism is only demonstrating a complete lack of awareness of current realities.
    This was manifest recently in the talks that Kerry was trying to get going between Israelis and Palestinians, where the Palestinian side continued in its well-worn obstructionist fashion – the Palestinians were insisting on no Jews being involved – read http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3783/palestinians-no-jews-allowed.

    • OlegR
      OlegR
      July 19, 2013, 10:10 am

      Shhhh it’s not nice to ruin people beliefs …

      • Woody Tanaka
        Woody Tanaka
        July 19, 2013, 11:21 am

        “Shhhh it’s not nice to ruin people beliefs …”

        Which explains the blowback you people try to inflict when your zionists fantasies are shown to be baloney.

      • yrn
        yrn
        July 19, 2013, 1:29 pm

        A TV series against Jews that is being broadcast to hundreds of millions of Arabs is OK in Mondowiess.
        But when a Palestinian is been ask questions in the airport, it makes the headlines here.

        I got used to it, that’s the standard hypocrisy here.

    • American
      American
      July 19, 2013, 10:47 am

      “”This virulent material plainly reinforces the fact that Muslim anti-Semitism is a major obstacle to progress in the region. We see Arab Muslims resorting to the same foul anti-Semitic tactics that were used by the Nazis.””…Mayhem

      We see the same attitudes among Israelis towards Arabs …..we see Israel not only resorting to the same nazi like foul mouth talk about Palestines and Arabs but actually acting like nazis in many ways………so whats the big news here?….that a group of Arabs hate the Jews as much as the Israeli Jews hate them?

      Blaming Arab ME anti semitism for lack of a I/P peace settlement is laughable…..everyone knows what the problem is.

    • Woody Tanaka
      Woody Tanaka
      July 19, 2013, 11:27 am

      “Why is there no concern expressed about this kind of incitement on MW?”

      Actually, there is. You don’t have to long and hard to see denounciations of actual antisemitism on MW. What you don’t see, however, is people falling for nonsense whereby the zionists make accusations against Arab states, people and organizations, not because of the merits of the accusation, but in order to provide a political benefit or political cover to the zionists in THEIR illegal and criminal actions against the Palestinians.

      If B’Tselem, for example, raised a concern about television programming in Egypt, that would carry a lot of weight. When some random zio spouts off about how the settlments are fine and the West Bank and Gaza aren’t occupied but “disputed”, and excuses and justifies the occupation and the killing of Palestinians as deserved or “collateral damage” and then wants someone to get concerned about television programming in Egypt, that person will be laughed at. Attend to the damned beam in your eye.
      “read link to gatestoneinstitute.org.”

      LMAO!!! John Bolton’s organization???? Yeah, you’re going to get honest, truthful reporting from the mustache and his minions. LOL!!

    • Cliff
      Cliff
      July 19, 2013, 11:56 am

      Antisemitism isn’t the issue.

      Jewish colonialism is.

      Get out of Palestine you thieves.

    • Chu
      Chu
      July 19, 2013, 12:22 pm

      Is troll-baiting forbidden? Probably why you weren’t getting approved, Mayhem.

      • annie
        annie
        July 19, 2013, 12:58 pm

        mayhem can’t seem to figure out mondowiess is not a format for memri. if that’s the only source he’s got and his comment keeps getting rejected you’d think he could figure that out. we regularly trash comments that include memri ‘evidence’ because they’ve been shown to lie, take quotes out of context and they’ve been caught ‘mistranslating’.

        and secondly, links to places like gatestone..don’t they have their own sites to discuss this crap? as if anyone has to wonder why palestinians, the plo, or the PA would want to converse one on one w/a ‘mediating’ power without members of the opposition there. gee, do you think the US holds meetings with the israeli government without palestinians there? gee ya think?

        and another thing, poor mayhem has been trying to insert this comment for over 8 days now beginning in the hebron thread under the pretext it explains why “Muslim anti-Semitism is a major obstacle to progress in the region.”

        you’d think it would dawn on him if that is his ptv and it’s so important to insert it into any/every thread (oh, and btw how original [NOT] the source of all israel’s ills is other people’s anti semitism…where have i heard that before?) so yes, anti semitism exists. is it the source of all israel’s ills? no, it is not.

        btw, i will take mayhem more seriously once he condemns islamophobic movies and acknowledges how rampant they are including the kind of crap hollywood pushes all the time. the entire american public is brainwashed into accepting torture as ok as long as the people being tortured are …you guess it!

      • Mayhem
        Mayhem
        July 21, 2013, 9:54 pm

        @annie, you don’t realize that there is no other source of information coming from the Arab world besides Memri that shows us what is actually happening and being said there. When you can come up with other sources that contradict the unique message that organizations like Memri provide, then I might start to believe differently from what I am seeing and hearing today from Memri. We cannot move forward without knowing what is the rhetoric behind the language.

    • eljay
      eljay
      July 19, 2013, 1:57 pm

      >> To be ignoring this crucial damage to prospects for peace and understanding and instead be harping on continually about settlements and bringing up the old bogey of colonialism is only demonstrating a complete lack of awareness of current realities.

      Assuming this YouTube video is legitimate, I strongly condemn it. This kind of sheer hatefulness is unacceptable and, yes, it is damaging to prospects for peace.

      That said, the video:
      – does not justify absolving Jewish supremacists of past and ON-GOING (war) criminal acts and behaviour;
      – does not justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their homes and lands;
      – does not justify “Jewish State” expansionism and colonialism;
      – does not justify the supremacist “Jewish State’s” refusal to enter into sincere negotiations for a just and mutually-beneficial peace; and
      – does not justify the existence of an oppressive and supremacist “Jewish State”.

      These realities have been damaging prospects for peace and understanding for over 60 years.

    • The Hasbara Buster
      The Hasbara Buster
      July 19, 2013, 4:25 pm

      @Mayhem:

      In the first place, the fact that Egypt airs an antisemitic serial has nothing to do with the Palestinian people’s right not to have their land stolen by Israelis.

      In the second place, scary as this program may be, it is much less so than the Israeli officials, rabbis and Members of Knesset’s outrageous statements about Arabs, Palestinians and other non-Jews. For instance, rabbi David Batzri, who is state-paid, claimed that Christianity has a concept of “pass[ing] a child over a fiery oven so he will burn.” He was never reprimanded, despite his monstrous blood libel.

      This was manifest recently in the talks that Kerry was trying to get going between Israelis and Palestinians, where the Palestinian side continued in its well-worn obstructionist fashion – the Palestinians were insisting on no Jews being involved – read link to gatestoneinstitute.org.

      Unfortunately, your source does not back your statement. The article you quote does not say that the Palestinians made any request to Kerry that no Jews be present — it only speculates that they might. Kerry proceeded to meet Abbas as planned, and I hope you don’t believe he would have done so if he had been asked to leave Jews out of the meeting.

      You see, the Internet is a huge headache for you Hasbaristas. All you claim can be checked now, and most turns out to be a pack of lies.

    • SQ Debris
      SQ Debris
      July 20, 2013, 5:20 pm

      If you don’t like the neighbors then move somewhere else. Like Antarctica. It’s a great place to self-ghettoize since there aren’t any pre-existing human communities (except the scientists).

  5. Inanna
    Inanna
    July 19, 2013, 6:07 am

    Where does one even begin to correct the many, many wrongs in the quote by Peretz?

    Antonius’ work was a work of history that traced the origins of Arab nationalism to the 19th century revolts by Muhammad Ali Pasha in Egypt in the 1820s against Ottoman rule and the civil war/revolt against Ottoman rule in Lebanon in 1860 led by Yousef Karam. It’s in no way a bible against Zionism unless you wish to claim that Arab nationalism born more than a century prior to the creation of the state of Israel and at least 70 years before modern Zionism could somehow have predicted the rise of Zionism in order to ‘react’ to it. Which is patently stupid.

    And yes, we have the zionist canard of Egypt staring the 1967 Six Day War. Just how many Israeli historians and former Prime Ministers does Peretz need before he will acknowledge that Israel started that war?

    • Nevada Ned
      Nevada Ned
      July 19, 2013, 2:11 pm

      The reason that Marty Peretz claims that Nasser started the Six Day War is that this useful fiction supports the propaganda claim that Israel’s wars are defensive wars. All of them. If Peretz were to admit that even one war was a war of aggression, he’d have a fact that didn’t fit the general pattern and propaganda claim.

      The 1956 war is a hard case to make into a propaganda piece for Israel.
      The lineup was Israel + Britain + France vs Egypt. As an initial result of the war, Britain got Suez, France clamped down on the great center of Moslem subversion that threatened France’s grip on Algeria, and Israel got the Sinai peninsula. Alas for the three aggressors, the US and the USSR forced Britain, France and Israel to return the conquered territory. As a result of the war, France and Britain were largely eliminated as mid-East powers.

  6. William Burns
    William Burns
    July 19, 2013, 10:21 am

    Peretz is back because he’s a member of the American establishment and knows enough people and is owed enough favors that he’ll always be published somewhere. The political opinion trade in this country is not exactly a meritocracy.

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