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The other night at Yeshiva University, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach introduced Sheldon Adelson as having the ear of Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu. Adelson said that he has met often with the prime minister, and that a recent Wall Street Journal column by fellow-panelist Bret Stephens saying that Netanyahu was not willing to attack Iran without US support was wrong. Adelson compared Netanyahu to the former prime minister, Ehud Olmert.

Adelson: Knowing both men, my conclusion is very simple. Olmert is a political person. He will– his wind blows in the direction of the polls. Bibi is not a political person. Bibi’s wind blows in the direction of his ideology, and his deep and unwavering support and love for the Jewish people and the state of Israel. I am absolutely convinced that Bibi says what he means, means what he says, and if he says that Iran is an existential threat, he would not live, not only as just prime minister, he would not live to face these issues without taking some type of action.

Boteach asks, He’d act on his own if the U.S. doesn’t act?

Under the threat of harm or damage to the Jewish people or the state of Israel, in my opinion…. I’ve purposely never discussed it with him….I don’t want to know. I don’t want him to tell me or say he can’t tell me… But knowing him as well as we do, I’d say if it involves the security and safety of the Jewish people worldwide, not only just in Israel, and the state of Israel, he’d be prepared to walk on his head from Israel to the United States and back. He will do whatever it takes.

Boteach:  So Bret’s column is wrong.

Completely. Maybe not completely. 98 percent. Not that we don’t think that Olmert is not a patriot. He is a patriot. But his patriotism extends sort of modified by the political considerations.

Anti-Zionists long contented that a problem with Zionism is that it creates dual loyalty, and suspicions about Jews in the countries where they are citizens, because of its definition of a “Jewish people” that transcends borders. Adelson gave Romney’s presidential campaign $30 million last year, and millions to Newt Gingrich. What did he want from them?

P.S. Adelson served in the US army.

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  1. piotr
    piotr
    October 26, 2013, 3:59 pm

    … he would not live to face these issues without taking some type of action.

    … he’d be prepared to walk on his head from Israel to the United States and back. He will do whatever it takes.

    I say, however difficult the described action is — it seems to entail the crossing of Bering Strait in winter — it falls short of taking an action independent from United States.

    I was prepared to ask if Adelson should be aware that rattlesnakes do not live in Iran (being confined to Americas), but he seems to have cognitive problems that are much more profound.

    • Citizen
      Citizen
      October 26, 2013, 8:06 pm

      @ piotr
      Adelson did not say specifically he meant the Iranian desert. It was “over there” but he didn’t say where “over there” there was for his warning shot. He did specifically mention where his second shot would go: Tehran. Maybe he meant a desert in the USA with rattlesnakes. Maybe in Nevada, but far from Las Vegas where his casino business is.

    • Krauss
      Krauss
      October 27, 2013, 12:59 am

      P.S. Adelson served in the US army.

      But his wife said that she would never let their kids serve in the U.S. army and instead wanted them to server in the Israeli army.

      Adelson served in the U.S. army simply because you couldn’t get away with that kind of way of thinking when he was younger, today you can, so he doesn’t stop his kids.
      And by the way, what about people like Bronner of the NYT? Since Bronner is an American citizen, his kids are very likely too. But they were still sent to the IDF.

  2. Dutch
    Dutch
    October 26, 2013, 4:06 pm

    I repeat that Israel is the biggest threat to Jewish wellbeing worldwide, and Adelson is its messenger. He puts the lives of Jews on the line by his agressive hatespeech. Who is supporting this outside the Chosen State and the US Congress?

    • pabelmont
      pabelmont
      October 26, 2013, 6:53 pm

      Agreed. Israel was founded, in large part, because a lot of Jews were feeling (or imagining) PAIN. They sought to escape either the PAIN or the imagining of the pain by TAKING ACTION! WOW! BIFF BAM BOOM! We’ve acted and thereby averted PAIN.

      Well, no.

      Nowadays, Israel and its cheerleaders are CHEERLEADERS for IMAGINED PAIN: and tell everyone that they must support Israel as the only bulwark against the pain. But Israel, nowadays, is causing so much pain. For Jews. And others. And supporting Israel means supporting PAIN. But the propaganda continues like a steamroller — you must support Israel or else there will be pain!

      Feh!

      • Walid
        Walid
        October 27, 2013, 12:24 am

        “Feh!”

        Curiously, in Arabic “Tfeh!” has the exact same meaning as in Hebrew to convey utter disgust. But it must be said in an abrupt snapping movement with an ugly and distorted nauseated facial expression to give it a full dramatic effect.

      • MRW
        MRW
        October 27, 2013, 10:49 am

        Nowadays, Israel and its cheerleaders are CHEERLEADERS for IMAGINED PAIN

        Time for everyone to watch this TED talk:
        Elizabeth Loftus: The Fiction of Memory
        http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_loftus_the_fiction_of_memory.html

    • wes
      wes
      October 27, 2013, 1:11 am

      Dutch #

      no one dutch,why would they anyway,its a frozen state.stiff necked and obdurate

    • seafoid
      seafoid
      October 27, 2013, 9:02 am

      Chosenness is fine as long as it it carried out in private between consenting adults. But when it drives a demented elite in a country like Israel it is dangerous. If the bots want to run a global caste system we need better membership benefits. Looking at people like Boteach and Danon it is hard to identify what makes them so special.

      • Bumblebye
        Bumblebye
        October 27, 2013, 9:23 am

        Chosenness and the infliction of pain on others. I’m really starting to worry about 2017, the centenary of the Balfour Declaration. Especially when remembering how the 50th anniversary was marked. Feel pretty sure there’ll be something very nasty planned for the Palestinians. If the hasbara shield isn’t well and truly cracked thru before then, who’ll stand up against the bots?

  3. just
    just
    October 26, 2013, 4:08 pm

    “He is a patriot.”

    Who do these “duals” pledge allegiance to??? What patriots are these?

  4. seafoid
    seafoid
    October 26, 2013, 4:19 pm

    “Bibi’s wind blows in the direction of his ideology, and his deep and unwavering support and love for the Jewish people and the state of Israel.”

    Driving Israel under the bus does not strike me as loving behavior.
    Feed Mama whiskey because she’s an alcoholic but don’t call it love .

  5. mcohen
    mcohen
    October 26, 2013, 5:26 pm

    old news-israel as the commodity,to traded as a unit of the jewish religion company

    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/06/30/080630fa_fact_bruck?currentPage=all

    the third-richest person in the United States, according to Forbes. He is fiercely opposed to a two-state solution; and he had contributed so generously to Bush’s reëlection campaign that he qualified as a Bush Pioneer. A short, rotund man, with sparse reddish hair and a pale countenance that colors when he is angered, Adelson protested to Bush that Rice was thinking of her legacy, not the President’s, and that she would ruin him if she continued to pursue this disastrous course. Then, as Adelson later told an acquaintance, Bush put one arm around his shoulder and another around that of his wife, Miriam, who was born in Israel, and said to her, “You tell your Prime Minister that I need to know what’s right for your people—because at the end of the day it’s going to be my policy, not Condi’s. But I can’t be more Catholic than the Pope.” (The White House denies this account.)

    Perhaps this exchange contributed to a growing resolve on Adelson’s part to try to force the Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, out of office. Adelson and Olmert had been friendly since the nineteen-nineties, when Olmert was a member of the hard-line Likud Party. Olmert became Prime Minister in January, 2006, following Ariel Sharon’s stroke. He, like Sharon, came to recognize the inexorability of Jewish-Arab demographic trends. Olmert declared that a two-state solution was the only way of preserving Israel as a democratic state with a Jewish majority, and he said that he was ready to negotiate with the President of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas. Adelson saw Olmert’s actions as a betrayal of principle. He had long wanted to see the Likud’s Benjamin Netanyahu returned as Prime Minister, but a revived peace process gave that goal new urgency.

  6. DICKERSON3870
    DICKERSON3870
    October 26, 2013, 6:30 pm

    RE: “Bibi’s [i.e., Netanyahu’s] wind blows in the direction of his ideology, and his deep and unwavering support and love for the Jewish people and the state of Israel. I am absolutely convinced that Bibi says what he means, means what he says, and if he says that Iran is an existential threat, he would not live, not only as just prime minister, he would not live to face these issues without taking some type of action.” ~ Adelson

    MY COMMENT: Be afraid*! Be very afraid**! ! !

    * SEE: “Netanyahu’s ‘King David’ Complex”, by Paul Pillar, Consortium News, 4/02/12

    [EXCERPTS] . . . A former Likud activist who has become a critic of Netanyahu explains, “Bibi is a messianist. He believes with all his soul and every last molecule of his being that he — I don’t quite know how to express it — is King David.”
    It is not in a superpower’s interest to get sucked into projects of someone with a King David complex. . .
    . . . If it [the U.S.] does not escape a war, it will be hard to find any silver lining in the consequences. But perhaps one would be that Americans would then be more likely to understand how contrary to their own interests it has been to follow the preferences of the Israeli government. Perhaps that could be a first step toward a more normal — and more beneficial for the United States — U.S. relationship with Israel. . .

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://digg.com/newsbar/Politics/netanyahu_s_king_david_complex_consortiumnews

    ** SEE – “Bibi: Israel Will Raise ‘David’s Sword’ Against Iran” ~ By Richard Silverstein, Tikun Olam, 9/28/11

    [EXCERPTS] . . . But the most interesting and frightening element of the interview was his [Netanyahu’s] comments about Iran. Other reporters have been noting that Bibi lately has been waxing apocalyptic and mystical about the possibly oncoming war with Iran. In this interview he says:

    Iran’s nuclear programs are turning it into an existential danger to the State of Israel. The question is not just what Israel is doing to stop it, but what the world is doing. The awareness by the world community that Iran is progressing on a track toward developing a nuclear weapon obligates it to act so that Iran does not get this weapon. With every day that passes, Iran gets closer. The obligation of the international community to act grows as the fear [that Iran progresses toward a bomb] does.
    You must keep in mind: that we aspire toward peace; but at the same time we must wield the sword of David to defend the Jewish State.

    Of course, in Bibi’s skewed world-view, David’s sword was raised only to defend his people, not in aggression against a victim. But we should keep in mind that David’s sword slew an Israelite enemy and led to the killer’s annointment as King of Israel. . .
    . . . Bibi (and to a lesser extent, Barak) have a very complicated complex that is little short of messianic and frightening. In the past, I’ve written dismissively about Bibi saying he has no principles and that even his so-called Jewish values appear to be manufactured. Now, I’m not so sure. And I don’t know which is worse, a megalomaniac with no principles or values; or a Jewish megalomaniac with religious-nationalist principles and values. They both scare the living hell out of me. . .

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2011/09/28/bibi-israel-will-raise-davids-sword-against-iran/

    P.S. Netanyahu’s ‘King David’ Complex combined with Adelson’s Napoleonic Complex is an über-existential threat to the U.S.! ! !

  7. Blownaway
    Blownaway
    October 26, 2013, 7:33 pm

    From today’s Haaretz ” Israel asks Us Jews: Where do your loyalties lie? Two sensitive and potentially explosive issues have always clouded the relationship between the Jewish community in the United States and the State of Israel. The first relates to claims of “dual allegiance” to both Israel and the United States; the other concerns the pro-Israel, American “Jewish lobby.” Many of those raising such claims against American Jewry have…

    We know here Shmuley and Sheldon’s lie

  8. Citizen
    Citizen
    October 26, 2013, 8:11 pm

    RE: “P.S. Adelson served in the US army.”
    PS: He has said publicly since then he wished he had worn an Israeli uniform instead of his US army uniform.

    PS: More than a few Jews objected to Zionism in its early stages precisely because they were concerned Zionism creates dual loyalty and host nations would be rightly concerned about Jews in their midst as a 5th Column for the Jewish state.

  9. Taxi
    Taxi
    October 26, 2013, 11:16 pm

    Sheldon’s hate speech upsets Spain:
    “In his daily radio op-ed on Spain’s Cadena Ser, Miguel Ángel Aguilar, the former editor of the worldwide Spanish-language wire service EFE, called on the Spanish government to reject a proposal by Adelson to build a casino near Madrid as a consequence of Adelson’s statement.”
    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.554550

    I say send that old toad Sheldon on a world tour to promote zionism (heh heh heh).

    • just
      just
      October 27, 2013, 5:18 am

      heh heh heh, indeed!

      Seems that Shell Game Shel has gambled and lost……….

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