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Today, John Kerry made the rounds of the Sunday morning news shows following the Israeli massacre in the eastern Gaza City neighborhood of Shuja’iyeh which killed 63 Palestinians. Although Kerry defended Israel’s actions on air, he was caught with a hot mic off air telling an aide, ‘It’s a hell of a pinpoint operation.” Fox host Chris Wallace asks Kerry about the apparent criticism of the Israeli onslaught, but Kerry sticks to the talking points. The difference between what Kerry says on air and off is mind numbing. 

During the off air moment Kerry also says he should leave for the region right away and that he thinks “it’s crazy to be sitting around.”

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  1. a blah chick
    a blah chick on July 20, 2014, 11:44 am

    In other news I just saw a video from Fox News. A crazy lady was on saying that the media is falling prey to Hamas’s dastardly “dead baby strategy.” She also said that we should thank Israel for keeping Hamas bottled up otherwise they would come to America and kill us, cuz they are the “same type of organization” as Al Qaida.

    The talking points are just getting crazier.

    • a blah chick
      a blah chick on July 20, 2014, 12:57 pm

      Expect to hear more about the “dead baby strategy,” or as Mr Sara called it on CNN “telegenically dead Palestinians.” Yep, all those crazy Arabs are getting themselves killed just to make Israel look bad. Poor dears.

      • Kay24
        Kay24 on July 20, 2014, 3:22 pm

        Their desperation makes them say these outrage things, that don’t add up.
        Yes, their dearly beloved supporters will drink it all in, but most people now that they have first hand information to exactly what is happening, and who really are the ones having to be protected by Israels might, know these are just verbal garbage spewed by those who are looking very bad in the eyes of the world;

    • RoHa
      RoHa on July 21, 2014, 1:19 am

      “keeping Hamas bottled up otherwise they would come to America and kill us”

      Without Israel, Hamas would be storming the beaches of New Jersey, and there’d be no stopping them till they reached the Mississippi.

      • Mooser
        Mooser on July 22, 2014, 10:58 am

        Say, RoHa, do me a favor, will you, my friend? When it looks like Hamas is about to cross the Rockies and debouch onto the West Coast, destroying all in its path, give me a call, okay? I want to get a head start.

      • eljay
        eljay on July 22, 2014, 11:25 am

        >> Mooser: Say, RoHa, do me a favor, will you, my friend? When it looks like Hamas is about to cross the Rockies and debouch onto the West Coast, destroying all in its path, give me a call, okay? I want to get a head start.

        Beware, lest the wily Aye-rabs come at you from the West! ;-)

  2. seanmcbride
    seanmcbride on July 20, 2014, 11:50 am

    The situation here is obvious: John Kerry knows that if he tells truth and expresses his real thoughts and feelings, he will be targeted for destruction by the Israel lobby. Barack Obama and Kerry have been intimidated into supporting yet another disastrous Israeli policy. Noam Chomsky has no useful insights to provide on what is really going on in US/Israeli relations.

    • American
      American on July 20, 2014, 1:43 pm

      seanmcbride says:

      July 20, 2014 at 11:50 am

      The situation here is obvious: John Kerry knows that if he tells truth and expresses his real thoughts and feelings, he will be targeted for destruction by the Israel lobby
      >>>>>>>>>>

      I had a long conversation with Jones’s staffer on this. Told him Jones and others who are ‘resistant’ to Israel but not ‘pro active’ against it, even though they privately believe Israel and its lobbies are damaging to US, need to start their own cabal on the hill and find in their ranks retiring politicians –those not running for office again—to start before they leave office speaking out very loudly against the I Lobbies and Israel.
      Told him that the Isr propaganda of ‘americans supporting Israel’ is just gross AIPAC and mouthpieces propaganda and politicans fall for it—and that millions upon millions of Americans would cheer a stand against this foreign occupation of our government but they need leaders to get behind in congress—and there are none..
      He agreed that congressmen and senators dont do any research on americans opinions on Israel, are totally unaware of the anti israel comments by the majority of americans who follow this.
      Said the only they input politicians record is calls or letters to them and the Pro Israel orgs set up phone trees and call-in’ blitzes’ and there is no big well funded american group countering them.

      So besides the bribe money factor —the other problem is politicians have no idea how many americans do oppose Israel and the US zionist corruption.

      Politicians depend on political consultants to advise them what issues to be for or against–and that is another problem because if you research the main consulting firms the dems and the repubs use you will find many of their principles are jewish, if you further check out those individuals you will find that a number of them have made pro israel statements themselves. I once posted my in depth research on this here but it was not shown. I dont know why, maybe because I did identify many of the consulting firms as heavily jewish and it was considered anti semitic.
      However ‘political consulting firms’ are another infiltration avenue –a natural one—for zionist to influence politicians. If theses consultants tell politicians that 90% of americans support Israel the politicians aren’t going to institute their own investigation to see if that is true or not.

      So in many cases no matter what their private beliefs are they arent going to act on them if they think they would be going against BOTH “american sentiments” AND against AIPAC.

      This is like the chicken and egg delimma–leaders wont go against Israel unless the american people come out –and the american people cant get any real juice in congress unless some leaders come out.

      • Kay24
        Kay24 on July 20, 2014, 3:28 pm

        It is a brilliant strategy. They control the media, the think tank, and most probably influence polling companies. I would dearly love to see an independent uncorrupted polling company take a poll on our nation, so that I can believe that so many support these lying butchers.

        You have made good points. It is the greed for power, campaign donations, and the assumption that the American people all support Israel, that makes these idiots become Israel’s slaves. If they don’t do as the lobbies say, they know their lame opponent will be supported by them

      • American
        American on July 20, 2014, 6:18 pm

        Kay24 says:
        July 20, 2014 at 3:28 pm
        I would dearly love to see an independent uncorrupted polling company take a poll on our nation, so that I can believe that so many support these lying butchers>>>>>>

        The butchers dont have the support they want you to think they have
        the World Public Opinion Poll by the Univ of Maryland Kennedy Center is the only one you can trust
        http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/503.php?nid=&id=&pnt=503
        International Poll: Most Publics–including Americans–Oppose Taking Sides in Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
        Publics Support Even-Handed Approach to Conflict
        Asked how their country should approach the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, 14 out of 18 publics preferred taking neither side. On average, 58 percent say that their country should not take either side, while just 20 percent favor siding with the Palestinians and 7 percent say that their country should take Israel’s side.
        In eight of the countries this was a large majority.
        In America it was 71%

        In no country does a majority favor taking Israel’s side. The largest percentages favoring taking Israel’s side are Indians (24%), Americans (21%), and Nigerians (15%).

      • Mooser
        Mooser on July 22, 2014, 11:01 am

        Kay24, to see the same thing, the same process, look up some things about the “China Lobby” and America’s support for Nationalist China’s leaders.
        It could almost be a model, in some ways, for the Israel Lobby.

  3. just
    just on July 20, 2014, 11:51 am

    He’s pulling a Colin Powell!!! Enough already. Speak the TRUTH ON AIR. If not now, when? When you guys are out of office, and more rivers of Palestinian blood flow? The man I so admired for asking “How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam?”….is reduced to spinning for AIPAC/Israel?

    SAVE GAZA! Tell Netanyahu to stop it right this minute. No more domes, no more dimes, no more drones, no more spinning.

    (THAT is the Kerry (off air) that I campaigned for so hard)

    • Kay24
      Kay24 on July 20, 2014, 3:28 pm

      We should write to the State department and say so.

  4. Justpassingby
    Justpassingby on July 20, 2014, 11:56 am

    kerry is the definition of a coward just like the rest of the western leaders.

    • Citizen
      Citizen on July 20, 2014, 12:34 pm

      Kerry just wants to live high of the hog. He mixes this banal interest with lies he tells himself that he is being an altruist.

      • Shingo
        Shingo on July 21, 2014, 12:35 am

        After seeing Hagel, who used to be a clear headed, intelligent, fearless man of principal reduced to some pathetic, spineless, war crazed puppet, there is nothing that can surprise me about people like Kerry.

    • refugee47
      refugee47 on July 20, 2014, 12:38 pm

      You can’t blame them . They would be out of office if they go off the train .

      • lysias
        lysias on July 20, 2014, 3:53 pm

        So why is it so important to them to stay in office?

  5. Cliff
    Cliff on July 20, 2014, 12:07 pm

    More proof of how the only people to truly support IsraHell are Christian fundies, Islamophobes and careerists.

    No one likes Israel. Its a shitty little apartheid settler-colonial country club for Jews only.

    • Americangirl
      Americangirl on July 20, 2014, 2:09 pm

      “No one like Israel, it’s a shitty little apartheid settler-colonial country club for Jews only”
      Brilliant and true! I’m going to quote that on twitter.

      • Mooser
        Mooser on July 22, 2014, 11:06 am

        “No one like Israel, it’s a shitty little apartheid settler-colonial country club for Jews only”

        For the right Jews. Look, in a colonial project like Israel, there isn’t a shift from Palestinian hell to Jewish heaven as soon as you switch a person’s religion. The oppression in a colonial project exists along a continuum. There’s still a long way to go from merely being Jewish to getting the benefits extracted from the colonial project. You have to be the right kind of Jew, too

    • Kay24
      Kay24 on July 20, 2014, 3:30 pm

      I agree with American girl, that is indeed a nice slogan and so appropriate.

    • traintosiberia
      traintosiberia on July 20, 2014, 7:58 pm

      Yes ,you are right. It is the presence of Islamophobia in certain circles that explain divine reverence for Israel in Ethiopia,Kenya,and India .

  6. Citizen
    Citizen on July 20, 2014, 12:30 pm

    Bibi is on CNN now, saying what Putin & Obama did with Syria was good because Syria actually got rid of its chemical WMD, but that’s not what’s happening with the Iran talks. I ‘d like to ask Bibi Y we should trust Israel with its chemical weapons and nuclear weapons, but I’m an American, so I can’t–it’s taboo thanks to the power of AIPAC-orchestrated dollars gushing into the US bribery system, some call the US campaign finance system.

    • Shingo
      Shingo on July 21, 2014, 12:33 am

      Yes these leaders are all gushing about the sanctity of human life with respect to MH-17, but nada about the hundreds of civilians murdered in Gaza

  7. Citizen
    Citizen on July 20, 2014, 12:38 pm

    Pentagon spokesman says the Russians are liars. Feinstein says Germany has to lead. Putin has to “man up.” regarding Ukraine. US rushes to push more sanctions on Putin, but Bibi is given a blank check. Feinstein is urging an ethical compass, “the world has to rise up.” She ignores what’s happening in Gaza. Nobody challenges her on CNN.

  8. Sumud
    Sumud on July 20, 2014, 12:44 pm

    What does that even mean?

    I’ve never heard that phrase before.

    • Mooser
      Mooser on July 22, 2014, 11:08 am

      “I’ve never heard that phrase before.”

      I have. I bet Feinstein got it from “Helter Skelter”

  9. a blah chick
    a blah chick on July 20, 2014, 12:47 pm

    I wish to nominate this as tweet of the day, take it away Tom Dale: “IDF death toll now 18, giving Hamas & co a 9:1 military/civilian kill ratio. Israel’s is around 1:3, 27 times worse.”

  10. michelle
    michelle on July 20, 2014, 12:51 pm

    .
    “Can you read this word, Peter?’
    …’It says GOD.’
    ‘Yes, that’s right. Now write it backward and see what you find.’
    …’DOG! Mamma! It says DOG!’
    ‘Yes. It says dog.’ The sadness in her voice quenched Peter’s excitement at once. His mother pointed from GOD to DOG. ‘These are the two natures of man,’ she said. ‘Never forget them… Our preachers say that our natures are partly of God and partly of Old Man Splitfoot… But there are few devils outside of made-up stories, Pete — most bad people are more like dogs than devils. Dogs are friendly and stupid, and that’s the way most men and women are when they are drunk. When dogs are excited and confused, they may bite; when men are excited and confused, they may fight. Dogs are great pets because they are loyal, but if a pet is all a man is, he is a bad man, I think. Dogs can be brave, but they may also be cowards that will howl in the dark or run away with their tails between their legs. A dog is just as eager to lick the hand of a bad master as he is to lick the hand of a good one, because dogs don’t know the difference between good and bad.”
    ― Stephen King, The Eyes of the Dragon
    .
    G-d Bless
    .

  11. MHughes976
    MHughes976 on July 20, 2014, 12:52 pm

    Lots of apoplectic demands for apologies will follow, I suppose, plus lots of insincere offers of same. Everyone knows that the western political leadership doesn’t mean what it says but cannot say what it means. To a certain degree I sympathise with the leaders of the violent things going on in the ME in that they keep on demanding forgiveness, admiration and more – ‘Say you really love me!!’ – keep on being reassured, keep on knowing that these reassurances are hollow at the core, keep on ever more frantically demanding that it all be said again.

  12. chet
    chet on July 20, 2014, 1:05 pm

    For those in politics or with the media, the message is clear — say the wrong word about Israel and your career is over.

    What is the first step ridding ourselves of this malignancy?

    • traintosiberia
      traintosiberia on July 20, 2014, 7:47 pm

      It is known as “career suicide” . Intelligence knows it for a longtime . Unless you are Carter building habitat , you have to support the demolition crew at the drop ofa dime and clear the way for the action. Kerry and Obama knee what was in store for the Palestniam children .

  13. Donald
    Donald on July 20, 2014, 1:22 pm

    The definition of a Washingtonian gaffe is someone accidentally speaking the truth.
    I half wonder if this was an accident. It’s really sort of stupid to make this mistake in a TV studio, let alone at Fox News. MSNBC (Rachel Maddow) might cover for you. Fox won’t. At the very least, maybe Kerry’s subconscious mind wanted to be caught.

    I agree with the condemnations of Kerry as a hypocrite, but all the same, it’s encouraging to know that he does have some sense of reality and is disgusted by Israeli behavior. The fact that when confronted by Mike Wallace he goes back to the talking points is great–it’s as clear a demonstration of what’s wrong with American politics on this issue as anyone could wish.

    The Republican right will try to use this to demonstrate that the Obama people are secretly anti-Israel. That’s good. It may force the mainstream press to cover it. The cowardly liberals who support Israel (think Rachel Maddow or Chris Matthews) will try to cover for Kerry by pointing to what he says in response and of course in public Kerry will continue to use the talking points. But that’s fine, so long as there are enough people pointing out that clearly Kerry really meant what he said “in private”. In this the far right will be our unwitting allies.

    • Svigor
      Svigor on July 20, 2014, 4:17 pm

      I had a long conversation with Jones’s staffer on this. Told him Jones and others who are ‘resistant’ to Israel but not ‘pro active’ against it, even though they privately believe Israel and its lobbies are damaging to US, need to start their own cabal on the hill and find in their ranks retiring politicians –those not running for office again—to start before they leave office speaking out very loudly against the I Lobbies and Israel.

      TPTB are way ahead of you on this one. The vast majority of bribes are paid (legally, I might add) to politicians after they leave office by way of “speaking fees,” the “lecture circuit,” etc.

      If former politicians do what you suggest, their bribes would not be paid.

      Also, I think you underestimate American popular support for Israel. There are a lot of patriotards out there who reflexively support Israel. A lot of red-blooded American instincts are subverted and channeled into that support; much like a cuckold who cheers on a fellow who finds another man in bed with his mistress and beats him up, not knowing that the guy who’s cuckolding him and the guy who’s doing the beating are actually the same man.

      I think one thing that puts me off being more supportive of you folks is that you are narrowly focused on what the bad guys are doing to Palestine, and blind to a whole host of bad things they’re doing to my people (Europeans), much of which you almost certainly support (open borders, demographic annihilation of America & the west via race-replacement, multiculturalism, dispossession of the majority, class war, etc.). I will give you one thing, you’re at least consistent: no tribalism for Europeans, no tribalism for Jews. Trouble is, I want everyone to be allowed their tribalism. But your position is much better than the reigning one (no tribalism for Europeans, total tribalism for Jews).

      In this the far right will be our unwitting allies.

      I typed the preceding text before noticing that comments were registration-only. I was going to skip registering for yet another site that will probably ban me in short order, but that quote changed my mind. Do I really sound unwitting to you? Or an ally of Israel? Maybe you misapprehend the far right; they sound more like “far ‘respectable’ right” to me, but that’s really where the far right begins (tepidly, at that). I am far to the right of these people. Conservatives can’t even see me, from where they’re sitting.

      • Donald
        Donald on July 20, 2014, 6:33 pm

        I don’t underestimate popular support for Israel–it appeals to the sort of person who applauds police brutality and is Islamophobic or hates the Other. People of that sort get off on a country which in their minds is fighting the good fight against evil Arabs.

        But in your later paragraphs you come across as a Klan type. Worried about European “annihilation”, eh? Meaning non-white immigrants. That’s just traditional nativism. I’m not sure why you wouldn’t support the Israelis, as they seem to have the same way of thinking. Well, except for the fact that people on the far far right often think the same–they’re tribalists, but don’t like members of other tribes.

      • eljay
        eljay on July 20, 2014, 6:47 pm

        >> I want everyone to be allowed their tribalism.

        I want everyone to live in countries and in a world where justice, equality and accountability are expected, demanded and upheld.

      • Svigor
        Svigor on July 21, 2014, 6:21 pm

        I want everyone to live in countries and in a world where justice, equality and accountability are expected, demanded and upheld.

        That’s another problem I have with the left; they assume unto themselves the authority to dictate to everyone else the definitions of justice, equality, accountability, etc. Essentially, they demand worldwide hegemony for their own way of thinking. I’m too attached to “live and let live,” to freedom and self-determination, for that.

      • Shingo
        Shingo on July 21, 2014, 7:29 pm

        That’s another problem I have with the left; they assume unto themselves the authority to dictate to everyone else the definitions of justice, equality, accountability, etc.

        No it’s not the definition you have a problem with. Your quarrel is with the entire concept of justice, equality, and accountability because it is incompatible with you desire for privilege, racial and ethnic supremacy and utter disregard and contempt for those not belonging to your tribe.

        The definitions of justice, equality, accountability are universal, but on your fascistic mind, only your fellow cultists are deserving and worthy of these rights.

        Essentially, they demand worldwide hegemony for their own way of thinking.

        That’s extraordinary coming from a supporter and/or citizen of a state that militarily occupies land that does not belong to them and reserves the right to control and dictate every aspect of their lives.

        I’m too attached to “live and let live,” to freedom and self-determination, for that.

        No you’re not. You’re attached to power and and tribal supremacy. Israel controls, steal and kills. It blatantly denies freedom and self- determination.

        You want freedom and self determination for you and your tribe only. You want the freedom to kill, to steal, to control and to violate others.

        unless you can say you are opposed to Israeli policies and practices, you are a hypocrite. That’s another problem I have with the right.

      • eljay
        eljay on July 21, 2014, 8:52 pm

        >> That’s another problem I have with the left; they assume unto themselves the authority to dictate to everyone else the definitions of justice, equality, accountability, etc. Essentially, they demand worldwide hegemony for their own way of thinking.

        It’s telling that the only people on this site who have ever made justice, equality and accountability sound like bad things have been Zio-supremacists.

        >> I’m too attached to “live and let live,” to freedom and self-determination, for that.

        1. When your freedom and self-determination come at some else’s expense, you’re not “living and letting live”.
        2. What are the rules by which “live and let live” operates? What are the remedies when a rule is broken?

      • RoHa
        RoHa on July 20, 2014, 8:28 pm

        “I want everyone to be allowed their tribalism. ”

        What good will it do them?

      • Mooser
        Mooser on July 22, 2014, 11:17 am

        “What good will it do them?”

        What good will it do them? Listen, while “Svigor” was nattering on the internet, me and my tribal bro’s (using that wonderful tribalism “Svigor” wants us to have) burnt his house and raped his women. Hooray for my tribe!

      • Mooser
        Mooser on July 22, 2014, 11:14 am

        “Trouble is, I want everyone to be allowed their tribalism. “

        You are nothing but a racist “Svigor”. And you don’t even have the ability to hide it.

  14. LuLu
    LuLu on July 20, 2014, 1:36 pm

    Kerry must of saw this video..https://www.youtube.com/embed/VyZqqlQNZT4
    As the genocide continues..many Christians have died too, but the controlled media is scared to report that too. Funerals are being held in churches for the dead. The US Government is as responsible for these war crimes for continuing to cover for it’s psychopathic sociopaths friend.

    • Kay24
      Kay24 on July 20, 2014, 3:36 pm

      The only way to get to the consciences of the American people, is show them the massacre of the Christian Arabs, it might then stir some feelings.
      For years we have seen Muslims being slaughtered, by us and by Israel, and they don’t seem to care.

      • lysias
        lysias on July 20, 2014, 3:58 pm

        The American public is still unaware of how disastrous for Iraqi Christians our invasion of Iraq turned out to be, and they are also unaware of how the U.S. government’s goal of toppling Assad in Syria would be disastrous for the Christians there.

      • LuLu
        LuLu on July 20, 2014, 7:29 pm

        Lysias, the ISIS/ISIS is all Mossad and CIA prostitutes put in there to topple Iraq. Nutty Yahoo was on a video shaking hands in a make shift hospital Israel set up between the Syrian and Israeli boarder with one of the Tafkiri terrorist who was injured in Syria. He even was speaking Arabic with him, the Video is on Live leaks if you have not seen it. I always wondered why these terrorist be it AlQueda, Tafkiri, ISIS or ISIL NEVER EVER attacked or touched the Zionist regime.. They only are after Muslims and Christians…Yet they stir their propaganda with saying Allahu Akbur, one of the ISIS members tweeted that he was going to destroy the Kabba in Saudi Arabia… Anyone person knows no Muslim would dare even have that cross their minds. Assad is not going anywhere, the entire terrorist groups they put in there is falling apart…

  15. Donald
    Donald on July 20, 2014, 2:25 pm

    Is this gaffe getting any mainstream coverage? I’ll go look at the NYT in a minute to see if they say anything yet. I could well imagine the liberal press trying to cover for Kerry by not reporting it at all (as I speculated would have happened if he’d done this on most of the MSNBC shows.) For that reason I hope the Fox News and rightwing Republican Zionists push this story with everything they’ve got.

    Well I just checked and I was a bit too cynical–the NYT is covering it–

    link

  16. upsidedownism
    upsidedownism on July 20, 2014, 2:49 pm

    ‘Pinpoint Operation’ : I wish not only Kerry had been asked what he meant by that, but more importantly, was that terminology given to him by someone else.

    I’m just guessing, but I wonder if Netanyahu or some other Israeli supplied him that phrase, promising that this indiscriminate, genocidal attack on Gaza would be a ‘pinpoint operation’. Kerry may have been reflecting his disgust at once again being lied to by the Israelis.

  17. Boomer
    Boomer on July 20, 2014, 3:02 pm

    As an American, watching Obama, Kerry, et al on this is so frustrating, so disturbing. When I was young I believed, naturally enough, that the U.S. was good, and a force for good. The commies were evil, we were good. As I’ve gotten older, the disillusionments have been all-too frequent, and all too painful. Learning the truth about our war in Vietnam was the first of those disillusionments, and Kerry played a part in that. Now, it seems, he has gone over to the dark side. I recall all too well the shock and dismay I felt while watching my nation open its invasion of Iraq with “Shock and Awe.” Once again, watching the news from Gaza (on BBC), I feel that sense of shame.

    Reflecting on this, I was moved to make a token contribution to the United States Nakba memorial and museum, which I assumed must exist somewhere: DC, NYC, or perhaps Detroit. A quick web search, however, turned up no links for such an entity. I found one in Bristol England, and one in the West Bank (which the Jerusalem Post referred to as “a safe place for dangerous ideas.) But if there is one in the U.S., I didn’t find it. If one exists, perhaps someone here will let us know about it. If one does not exist, perhaps Congress will fund one to match the Holocaust Memorial and Museum in DC . . . right after it renames Columbus Day “First Nations Day.”

  18. lysias
    lysias on July 20, 2014, 4:02 pm

    At least if there were a Nakba Museum in this country, it would be commemorating something for which the U.S. has some responsibility. I’ve always wondered why there was a Holocaust Museum in D.C. on land donated by the federal government, when there is no museum of slavery or of the American Indian genocide in D.C.

    • Svigor
      Svigor on July 20, 2014, 4:21 pm

      Think of Holocaust memorials and museums as a kind of synagogue and it starts to make more sense.

      • lysias
        lysias on July 20, 2014, 5:40 pm

        The federal government could not donate land for a synagogue.

  19. W.Jones
    W.Jones on July 20, 2014, 5:47 pm

    You may find this talk at the UN Security Council on July 18.
    The main figures get time- Palestine’s diplomat, the Israeli one, Jordan’s, and Samatha Powers from the US. Turn off the sound when you watch the Israeli one to notice his emotional reaction.
    http://www.c-span.org/video/?320547-1/un-security-council-meeting-israelipalestinian-conflict

  20. amigo
    amigo on July 20, 2014, 8:27 pm

    All I can say is,

    It,s a helluva pinpoint statement.

  21. oldgeezer
    oldgeezer on July 21, 2014, 12:46 am

    A serious situation. People may not like him but he’s good. He never had to address the question even once.

    Consdering the nature of the massacre that’s going on I felt when I literally burst out laughing at the last bit. When Kerry said the ceasefire could lead to talks. We’ve had a half century of talks (more if you count Israeli promises when it was formed), Kerry just spent a long time in failed talks. All it has accimplished is to result in more oppression and less land for the Palestinians. And you know Israel will not talk directly to Hamas regardless.

    Once I finished laughing… I want to add that it’s really wrong to call this a ceasefire. Unless I’m wrong, and please correct me if I’m wrong, based upon the last proposed agreement (negotiated by umpteen parties but not Hamas) has the requirement for the demilitarization of Gaza. That is not a ceasefire. It’s demands for surrender. To paraphrase a typical Israeli meme…. A ceasefire is not supposed to be a suicide pact.
    If I was Hamas I would never disarm. Israeli failure, and outright refusal, to adhere to their agreements should be legendary by now.

  22. oldgeezer
    oldgeezer on July 21, 2014, 1:25 am

    He clearly has some opinions but he will continue to spout the approved line and do as he’s told.

  23. kalithea
    kalithea on July 21, 2014, 2:33 am

    If only Vietnam Kerry could be reanimated; I wonder what he’d say to this present-day wuss?

    Yes, do go Mr. SoS! To Gaza, not that Ziofantasyland. You might be transported back to the atrocities you were once part of! On second thought – go back and hide under that rock; it’s so much safer there.

    Whoever said we get wiser with age; should have added a caveat – not the rule of thumb.

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