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Palestinian flag is an ‘enemy’ flag– Netanyahu’s latest crackdown

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Last week when discussing Israel’s proposed new Jewish and democratic law, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated that in the land of Israel, “only the Jewish People have national rights: A flag, anthem, the right of every Jew to immigrate to the country, and other national symbols.” In the same meeting he laid out his latest and harshest measures of Israeli deterrence against a wave of attacks in Jerusalem: deporting Palestinians.
On Wednesday a measure was submitted to the Knesset  from the prime minister’s ruling Likud party to punish Palestinians implicated in terrorism. The punishments include stripping Palestinian citizens of Israel of their citizenship, terminating the West Bank or Jerusalem residency if they are “engaging or cooperating” in crimes against the state and its citizens. For those that have completed prison sentences for terrorism charges, they can be deported to Gaza. And the state can refuse to return remains of deceased Palestinian attackers, or suspected attackers. Not to mention Palestinian flags will also be banned from protests.

“I instructed Cabinet Secretary Avichai Mendelbit, along with Interior Minister Gilad Erdan, to submit draft legislation to revoke rights from residents who participate in terrorism or incitement against the State of Israel,” said the prime minister at a cabinet meeting on Sunday. “This law is important in order to exact a price from those who engage in attacks and incitement, including the throwing of stones and firebombs, and it complements the demolition of terrorists’ homes, and helps to create deterrence.”

The grab bag of punitive laws comes after unrest in Jerusalem, where a series of attacks have claimed the lives of several Israeli citizens, along with the lives of most of the Palestinian attackers and suspects. Most recently five Israelis—four rabbis and one Druze police officer—were killed in a West Jerusalem synagogue on November 18, 2014. There has also been violence in the West Bank.  Lately, one Palestinian was killed and two others injured in the northern West Bank village of Barta’a after they were ran over by an Israeli bus.

The deterrence measures are aimed at Palestinians, regardless of their citizenship status, who committed or intend to commit acts of violence against Israeli citizens. Moreover, the law punishes crimes based on ethnicity. While the bill would apply to Palestinian citizens of Israel and Palestinian residents of the West Bank and Jerusalem, equally—irrespective of status—Jewish-Israelis who engage in violence against Palestinians are exempt from the sanctions.

The Israeli outlet Ynet published a rundown of the bill, which was presented as an “eight-step plan,”

  • Israeli Arabs caught engaging or cooperating with terror will automatically lose their citizenship – or Palestinian Authority residency, in the case of Palestinians.

  • After completing their prison term, terrorists will be deported from Israel.

  • Those killed during their attempt to conduct a terror attack will not receive a funeral.
  • The body of terrorists will not be transferred to their families, and will be buried in an unknown location, without ceremony and without future access for their families
  • Terrorists’ houses will be destroyed within 24-hours of the attack
  • Masked stone throwers and those inciting for terror and violence participating in illegal protests in which firebombs or fireworks were thrown will be arrested and held in remand until the completion of legal procedures against them. The same measures will be taken against those who waved an ‘enemy flag’ during the protests, including the Palestinian flag. Anyone convicted at the end of their remand will lose their social welfare benefits and driving license for a 10 year period.
  • Families of terrorists will lose their citizenship and will be deported to Gaza should they express support for their relative’s deed. Support, according to the bill, can be expressed through public or social media.

The bill also includes a clause that would close businesses and printing presses that print posters that support terror or terrorists.

The deterrence law would mark a sea change in how Palestinian citizens of Israel are punished in that it enshrines punitive treatment that is applied based on national identity, separating them from Israeli-Jews. But as with other security measures passed to quell the Jerusalem unrest, they are revisions from an earlier era. Components of the policy are rooted in Israeli military code that governs Palestinians in the occupied territories. For instance, temporary security holds on the remains of Palestinian attackers were commonplace during the first and second intifada across the West Bank.

Moreover, a policy of expulsions outside of Israel is rooted in the period leading up to the Oslo Accords when then Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin ordered 400 Palestinians bussed over the northern border to Lebanon. That measure was challenged in Israel’s high court and ultimately approved in 1992. Reporting for the New York Times, Clyde Haberman covered the deportation as a midnight run where the Palestinians were dumped with money and rations. “Handed $50 each, along with some food, jackets and blankets, the Palestinians from both the West Bank and Gaza were taken on a wintry night into the ‘security zone’ that Israel has declared in southern Lebanon,” wrote Haberman.

International law forbids the transfer of persons outside of occupied territory as a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention, to which Israel is a signatory.

On Thursday Haaretz reported the Swiss government is working to assemble a conference in Geneva, similar to the 1999 review on Israel’s violations of the agreement. According to Haaretz, the U.S. has attempted to prevent the event, as it did in 1999. The Fourth Geneva Convention does not include regulations on enforcement.

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  1. just on November 29, 2014, 9:33 am

    Netanyahu’s continuing crack- up~ codifying ethnic cleansing.

    G4S & the IOF is gonna be busier than ever.

    Thanks, Allison. I was hoping that this latest travesty of justice/”security” would be headlined.

  2. amigo on November 29, 2014, 11:08 am

    Could zionism be similar to syphilis and or Rabies.The actions of those who are suffering from the later stages of syphilis or Rabies are eerily alike those of nietanyahu and his cohorts.

    “Latent and Late Stages

    “The latent stage of syphilis begins when all of the symptoms you had earlier disappear. If you do not receive treatment, you can continue to have syphilis in your body for years without any signs or symptoms. Most people with untreated syphilis do not develop late stage syphilis. However, when it does happen it is very serious and would occur 10–30 years after your infection began. Symptoms of the late stage of syphilis include difficulty coordinating your muscle movements, paralysis (not able to move certain parts of your body), numbness, blindness, and dementia (mental disorder). In the late stages of syphilis, the disease damages your internal organs and can result in death. ”

    Rabies also mirrors zionism in it,s late stages and it,s effect on those who have the disease.

    “Furious rabies

    Furious rabies is characterised by episodes of increasingly odd and hyperactive behaviour, separated by periods of relative calm. During these episodes a person may have some or all of the following signs and symptoms:

    aggressive behaviour, such as thrashing out or biting
    hallucinations – seeing or hearing things that are not real
    delusions – believing things that are obviously untrue
    excessive production of saliva
    high temperature (fever)
    excessive sweating
    the hair on their skin stands up
    a sustained erection (in men)

    • piotr on November 29, 2014, 11:53 am

      This is not serious an unnecessarily inflammatory. However, there is an actual point here, namely, that some conditions do progress to be worse and worse. I would call this condition “war thinking”.

      Basically, during a war we have a reversal of normal human norms, starting from murder: abhorrent becomes laudable. When wars last longer, this reversal is more and more profound. To me, the most striking example was the quest of British and American high commands during WWII to perfect the art of incinerating large cities, with notable successes in Dresden, Hamburg and Tokyo. Firestorms created by carpet bombing indiscriminately killed hundreds of thousands (and we are not even talking about the nuclear bombs). This example shows the effects of war thinking in the absence of nasty ideologies.

      Israel cultivates state of war, and that removes inhibitions on what is fair or unfair in respect to people classified as “enemies”. One can dispute what was the original nature of Zionism, but there was definitely several varieties of which the most radical, Revisionist, is ancestral to most non-religious parties — Likud and three major offshoots. While initially “mildly fascistic” (think of Mussolini before Pact of Steel), revisionists mellowed while in opposition, and started to appreciate “democratic values”, and that is the origin of the “mildest” type of the ideology, with Rivlin being a representative. But the “war thinking” progresses and Zionist becomes increasingly intolerant and undemocratic. A parallel evolution can be observed in organized Judaism.

      • Mooser on November 29, 2014, 12:41 pm

        “A parallel evolution can be observed in organized Judaism.”

        That’s right, and I was going to go and give Marc Ellis a piece of my mind, if I had enough to spare, for talking about the “end of Jewish theology” . Nonsense. There’s no reason why (oh, apart from dwindling numbers, a low birth rate and a lot of out-marriage and internal division) Judaism couldn’t evolve a Theology of Victory. I think the world is ready for a Jewish Warrior Theology. And if they aren’t well, there a lot fewer of us than there is of them! Oh wait…

      • W.Jones on December 2, 2014, 12:53 pm


        Is Gomulka, Poland’s postwar president, saying anything noteworthy in his speech on antiZionism?

      • piotr on December 5, 2014, 9:24 pm

        Jones, Gomulka was not a President. I could comment at length, but the fact that there were anti-Semitic campaigns using “anty-Zionism” slogans does not mean that every criticism of Zionism is invalid. By the way, I was very much on the receiving end of the Polish “anty-Syjonizm” in 1967/68, so I have some experience how quickly “abhorrent can become laudable”.

      • W.Jones on December 7, 2014, 10:09 pm


        Sorry to hear that you were on the receiving end of “anti-Zionism.” May i ask what happened, eg. denied a job opportunity because seen as a potential Zionist?

        Also, I was not asking a sarcastic or trick question- I wanted to ask you what Gomulka was saying on the topic, since I don’t know Polish, and you may have some insights too.

    • Mooser on November 29, 2014, 12:36 pm

      amigo, please set your mind at rest. The manifestations and excrescences of the Ziocaine Syndrome often mimic those of other maladies. And there is no reason why a person couldn’t have both the Syndrome and untreated venereal disease. At bottom tho, the Ziocaine Syndrome is a behavioral malady and its etiology is ideological and psychological.

      • amigo on November 29, 2014, 1:32 pm

        Thanks for trying to put my mind at rest but as the results of ideological or psychological actions of zionism are the mass killings of Palestinians and their slow genocide, it is hard from me to put any part of me at rest.

        By the way , the English term for etiology is aetiology.

        Two peoples separated by a common language. Why don,t you Colonists stick with the mother tongue .

      • just on November 29, 2014, 1:36 pm

        ” Two peoples separated by a common language. Why don,t you Colonists stick with the mother tongue . ”

        lol, amigo!!!

      • Mooser on November 29, 2014, 4:21 pm

        ” Two peoples separated by a common language. Why don,t you Colonists stick with the mother tongue . ”

        Once I attained mans mortgaged estate, I found a hug, a peck on the cheek, and “Hi, Mom, how ya’ doin?” sufficient, thank you.

  3. dimadok on November 29, 2014, 11:43 am

    From the same article:
    “Despite their plight, many of the Palestinians — Muslim fundamentalists from the Hamas and Islamic Holy War groups — seemed far from unhappy because they saw a chance to muster international sympathy that their declared armed struggle against Israel might not ordinarily bring.

    News reports from southern Lebanon quoted the men as urging the Lebanese Government to keep them out, thereby forcing them to stay in a desolate buffer strip that lies between the nearest Lebanese and Israeli army checkpoints.”
    Cry me a river.

    • The Hasbara Buster on December 1, 2014, 10:10 am

      Not sure what exactly your point is, dimadok, but Allison is providing an example of Israeli racism, i.e. a policy that punishes Arabs, but not Jews, for stone throwing and acts of terrorism. The house of an Israeli Arab who runs over someone with a truck will be demolished. That of an Israeli Jew who douses gasoline on a teenager and sets him alight will not. That is Apartheid, plain and simple, independently of what goes on in Lebanon.

  4. American on November 29, 2014, 12:14 pm

    Can I mentioned that many of us have been saying and warning for years that Israel ‘was going to get worse and worse” ?
    And it has.
    None of us had to be geniuses to predict this.
    And yet ‘world leaders’ of democracies supposedly couldn’t recognize the Israel mentality problem.
    Or they don’t’/didnt care, which is likely the real explanation.

  5. Walid on November 29, 2014, 12:57 pm

    I’m wondering what the Palestinian Chief negotiator and President are thinking at this point. They sure are quiet about what’s been happening.

    As to Netanyahu, who’s surprised by his antics?

    • Abierno on November 29, 2014, 3:21 pm

      @walid. Netanyahu, Feiglin and Liberman’s actions and comments speak for themselves. Adding to the article above, Netanyahu has appointed the creator of the Dahiya doctrine to head the IDF. Not only has he learned nothing from world outrage at “Protective Edge”, but he has also frantically hunkered down to only two responses to the current complex Israeli situation: Incitement and force (Shoot to kill orders, mayhem with total immunity and arming already violent and out of control settlers).

      Abbas? More and more I am beginning on think of him as a Kasporov level chess expert playing the devilishly complex Sicilian Defense wherein you give away a lot of pieces but corner your opponent to have few, if any effective moves in the end game. Haaretz announces today that the Arab league is taking Abbas proposal to the Security Council – in January, of course, when new members Venezuela, New Zealand, Spain, Angola and Maylasia are seated, all sympathetic to the Palestinian cause. Then, in Mid December the Genevan convention. Finally, with all paperwork in place, signing up for the ICC if all else fails. With the new configuration of the Security Council and ratification of Israel’s war crimes by Geneva, he stands a solid chance of moving his/Arab League proposal to the General Assembly. Netanyahu’ s ever increasing levels of state sanctioned apartheid, racism, facism and violence speak volumes about the need for these measures. Only a few Israeli politicians understand that Bibi has no endgame (former heads of Shin Bet IDF) .

      • Walid on November 29, 2014, 4:19 pm

        Abierno, the pseudo-Kasparov has for years been oscillating between threats of resigning and threats of joining world bodies that could help him against the Zionists. He’s back at it today with the threats, while his chief negotiator a couple of days back said going to the UN or other agencies is still being debated. As to the involvement of the AL, this is simply sabre rattling as just about the only action it took in its history was to back the West’s invasion of one of its member states and to suspend the membership of another. There’s a 100% chance of getting any resolution pertaining to Palestinians at the UNSC vetoed by the US. All these talks of doing this and that are soap opera stuff. Netanyahu is also into it by proposing to take half-a-dozen drastic steps towards the Palestinians so when he decides after the uproar to cancel 5 of those and retain only one, people will claim he lost and the Palestinian won something.

      • Brewer on November 30, 2014, 4:10 am

        Regret to inform that New Zealand has a Zionist, ex-Wall St Bankster Prime Minister (who is, incidentally, trashing our Constitution and trying to rush through Emergency Deep State Surveillance legislation). I fear the NZ vote will go against the Palestinians – and there will be an uproar down here.

        Its a bit complicated but I’ll give it a go with the help of links:

        Three Israelis were among the 181 people who died when the earthquake destroyed most of Christchurch’s central business district on February 22. One was found to be carrying at least five passports.
        An unaccredited Israeli search and rescue squad was later confronted by armed New Zealand officers and removed from the sealed-off “red zone” of the central city….

        Within hours,

        Prime Minister John Key fielded the first of four calls that day from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

        Israel’s Ambassador in the South Pacific, Shemi Tzur, who is based in Australia, booked flights to Christchurch, where he visited the morgue.

        Israel’s civil defence chief left Israel for Christchurch.

        A complete Israeli urban search and rescue squad was assembled and flown to Christchurch, arriving about the same time as …

        Three people who had smashed their way out of a van crushed by a concrete pillar in the central city, leaving a fourth person dead in the vehicle, arrived back in Israel.

        This incident resurfaced just before the 2011 election when the leader of the opposition, Phil Goff, said he had not been briefed about it by the Prime Minister. The PM’s department then set up a rather disreputable attack blogger who put a Freedom of information request to the Security Intelligence Service and, based on that reply, boasted that Goff had indeed been briefed. The resulting embarrassment might have cost Goff the election.

        Now, fast forward to last week when the results of an official enquiry announced that:

        ……the information on former Labour leader Phil Goff released to Whaleoil blogger Cameron Slater was inaccurate and misleading – and that then SIS director Warren Tucker failed to make any correction when he learned that was the case.

        In short, PM John Key’s office (Key had inserted plausible deniability) had engaged the SIS in political dirty tricks. In recent days he has further exposed himself by lying in Parliament. A good satirical piece here:

        Just incidentally, Cameron Slater, the sleazy blogger has been to Israel as a guest of the Likud Govt.

        Immediately after winning last month’s election, Key turned up the volume on scary monsters ISIS and began promoting the curtailment of civil rights:

        New Zealand has an unwritten Constitution. One of the conventions is that anyone caught lying in Parliament must immediately resign. The resignation may not be accepted by the House but the gesture is required. Key is brazenly bluffing his way around this and vast disapprobation by the NZ public. He will not hesitate to vote against the majority of New Zealanders who support Palestine.

  6. Daniel Rich on November 29, 2014, 1:01 pm

    ‘And beep the ff-ing Brits for their rulers are a royal pain in the ***!’

  7. seafoid on November 29, 2014, 2:40 pm

    Not allowing funerals qualifies as collective punishment. When edward Said was asked about what would happen to the sabras and replied “i don’t know, I really don’t” he must have envisaged this descent into madness.
    Because whatever Israel does to the palestinians, jews will fear will be done to them. That is why other countries are civilised. So the bad stuff doesn’t happen in a never ending cycle of revenge.

    israeli Jews are hopelssly lost in holocaust trauma.

    • DaBakr on November 29, 2014, 9:23 pm

      yeah, like behaving well and civilized has really prevented other nations and other cultures from wreaking havoc, mayhem and murder upon their neighbors in the past. the US thought it was acting as a ‘civilizing’ force upon the natives while it stole all their land and built an empire. are US citizens hopelessly lost in the culture of manifest destiny?

      • just on November 29, 2014, 10:57 pm


        Here’s the thing~ some in Israel and in the US struggle to be one and the same. We are NOT.

        I wouldn’t live in Israel if they gave me a all of Adelson’s shekels/dollars.

        It’s not a good place.

      • amigo on November 30, 2014, 8:38 am

        “yeah, like behaving well and civilized has really prevented other nations and other cultures from wreaking havoc, mayhem and murder upon their neighbors ” dabakr

        Did you have a point to make ???.

      • Mooser on November 30, 2014, 11:39 am

        “other cultures from wreaking havoc, mayhem and murder”

        Oh, look, he just called “Mayhem” an Arab!
        That’s gonna start a spat.
        It’s the settlers vs, Mizrahi vs the Frummers vs the seculars vs the Ultra-Orthodoxvs Liberal Zionistsvs Russians vs the dual-passporters vs

    • SQ Debris on November 30, 2014, 1:32 pm

      The return of remains in international armed conflicts is an obligation under the Geneva Convention.. the thingee that was written in response to Nazi tactics. Here’s a link to a relevant page regarding International Humanitarian Law:

      • oldgeezer on November 30, 2014, 2:36 pm

        The geneva conventions are not a suicide pact. When will the world understand that dead bodies are an existential threat to the State of Israel.

  8. Walid on November 29, 2014, 3:16 pm

    President Abbas is today in Cairo at an Arab League emergency meeting to hear him make more threats on what he’s going to do to the Israelis. This must have Netanyahu shaking in his pants.

    from Times of Israel:

    Abbas: Palestinians will never recognize Israel as Jewish state
    Speaking to Arab League, PA president accuses Israel of setting up apartheid state, says Palestinians can’t wait any longer for statehood
    BY TIMES OF ISRAEL STAFF November 29, 2014, 4:41 pm 84

    The Palestinian leader was speaking in Cairo at an emergency session of the Arab League with foreign ministers from around the Arab world. His remarks came following a week of intense debate among Israeli politicians about a Knesset bill which would enshrine Israel’s status as a Jewish state in law.

    “We will never recognize the Jewishness of the state of Israel,” Abbas was quoted by Channel 10 saying. The news outlet also reported that Abbas threatened to terminate all security cooperation between Israel and the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank unless peace negotiations are revived. Talks collapsed in April, and Israel will not resume them so long as Abbas is partnered with the Hamas terror group in a Palestinian unity government.

    Abbas charged that instead of advancing the peace process, Israel was working to set up an apartheid state, including Jews-only buses, establishment of Israeli legal sovereignty over West Bank settlements, the proposed “Jewish state” law, and requirements of declarations of loyalty by citizens.

    “Return to negotiations is possible if Israel agrees to a full freeze of settlement [construction], including Jerusalem, release of the fourth group of long-term prisoners, and setting a timetable for negotiations which will begin with setting borders,” Abbas said.

    …. Abbas said Saturday that the Palestinians weren’t willing to wait any longer for progress and were determined to petition the United Nations Security Council to demand a timetable for the end to Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian territories.

    “It’s impossible for us to wait any longer, because Israel continues its aggression and expropriation of lands and setting facts on the ground by continuing to build settlements,” Abbas was quoted saying. “The government of Israel doesn’t want, for internal reasons, to define its borders and we can’t continue with this situation.”

    Abbas was expected to receive Arab League approval to lodge the UN petition in the coming days, but did not say when he would do so.

    … The resolution is likely — but not certain — to fail, either because it falls short of the needed votes or because the US will veto it. But it will likely add momentum to international backing for Palestinian statehood.

    Abbas warned that the Palestinians could take other steps, including joining the International Criminal Court, if the Security Council rejects the resolution.

    The PA president said he would take these steps unless Israel “takes responsibility for the situation.”

    “The situations in the [West] Bank is dangerous, and can’t continue,” Abbas said. “All signs point to [the fact that] the American mediation [of peace talks] failed with the end of negotiations.”

    • Abierno on November 29, 2014, 4:25 pm

      @walid. This is a continuation of my comment. Abbas/Arab League and others are ramping up to obviate the US Security Council veto by invoking a UN 377 resolution known as ” Uniting for Peace”. For example it was used during the Suez crisis years ago. Netanyahu, his Likud and far right cronies by their ever increasing attempts at Palestinian defenestration are making this an ever more credible possibility.

      I applaud your sarcasm regarding Netanyahu’s shaking in his boots. He is too blind sighted to see that the the building blocks are in place to move around the US (whose foreign policy can be summed as blind and incompetent, fettered to our own military-industrial oligarchs).

      • Walid on November 29, 2014, 4:49 pm

        Abierno, the US is one hell of a huge elephant at the UN and this world body will always move the way the US wants it to. I don’t think there are grounds with the UNSC is doing or not doing that would allow the 377 that you mentioned into kicking in. This is where Hostage should be here to explain it. What has the Arab League been able to do for the Palestinians in the last 60 years?

      • Abierno on November 29, 2014, 6:55 pm

        The format of this site gives me no space to comment below your last comment so here it is above. The composition of the Security Council changes significantly in Palestine’s favor with the new rotating members coming on board. 377 is set up for situations where the security council is hopelessly deadlocked as it will be. Virtually all those countries rotating in have been burned by the US or Israel. I would predict they ally with Russia and China and force the issue to the General Assembly. The US representative is Samantha Power whose diplomatic skills are significantly attenuated, naively seeing her own role as to protect Israel. My question, Walid, is the US still the elephant in the room or slowly and inevitably in its bankrupt state moving toward becoming a paper tiger?

      • NickJOCW on November 30, 2014, 10:45 am

        @ Abierno: Don’t overlook Russia. A US veto will piss off a lot of people and could make Putin appear a knight in bright armour.

  9. amigo on November 29, 2014, 3:16 pm

    “Not to mention Palestinian flags will also be banned from protests.”nietanyahoo

    Better start building a lot of prisons.Feeding all those people will be mighty expensive and who will do the work they used to do.Who will look after all the children of those in prison for waving the Palestinian flag.10 % of Israeli population in prison should put a very large hole in the budget not to mention all those taxes that will no longer be paid into the states coiffures.

    Sounds to me like he is taking off a bigger bite than Israel can chew.

    But he is the King of the Jews and he knows best, eh.

    • Walid on November 29, 2014, 5:29 pm

      “But he is the King of the Jews…”

      He’s more like the king of Israel where most Israelis think like him; he doesn’t speak for all the Jews of the world as much as he pretends. Besides, wasn’t that Jesus’ title?

      • DaBakr on November 29, 2014, 9:29 pm

        he is much less the ‘king of israel’ then Arafat was the ‘king of Palestine’ and it is obvious now that dspite being despised by many withing the Palestinian elite he remained popular as a figure that represented a type of Palestinian unity in times of struggle. hate or love Netanyahu-he will be noted as one of the most popular PM’s in Israeli history.

      • just on November 29, 2014, 10:44 pm

        That’s a real knee- slapper, DaBakr!

        Never, ever lose your sense of humor.

      • just on November 29, 2014, 11:02 pm

        A ditty for Netanyahu and his many fans:

      • just on November 29, 2014, 11:15 pm

        Why, yes it was.

      • bryan on November 30, 2014, 2:43 am

        @DaBakr: “hate or love Netanyahu-he will be noted as one of the most popular PM’s in Israeli history” The normal format for this cliche is “love or hate”; is it significant that you reverse the word order? Well he hasn’t got a lot of competition has he – petty tyrants, like Ben Gurion, prima donnas, like Golda Meir and Shimon Peres, and terrorists, like Shamir, Begin, and Sharon. Perhaps Rabin? who was so popular he was assassinated (following incitement from a guy called Netanyahu). Perhaps Sharett and Eshkol? who sometimes attempted to lead Israel down the path of reason, compromise and peace, but were constantly undermined by the hawks who dominated their cabinets. Of all western nations Israel surely has been dealt the weakest hand in its political leadership, as exemplified by your admiration for a smarmy, duplicitous, piece of chickensh*t?

      • DaBakr on November 30, 2014, 8:39 pm

        so @ bryan- we can take it you havn’t liked any Israeli leaders. why is this not a big surprise.

      • bryan on December 1, 2014, 2:45 am

        No DaBakr – my reading of Israeli history gives me considerable admiration for the moderation and common sense of Sharett and Eshkol. Unfortunately however neither was able to resist the madmen within the Israeli establishment, particularly Eshkol who was undermined by a virtual military coup d’etat on the eve of the Six Day War. Avi Shlaim’s masterful narrative describes: “Eshkol’s … former party colleagues … now conducted a merciless campaign to undermine his authority. David Ben Gurion, Shimon Peres and Moshe Dayan, who had been languishing in opposition, tried to make political capital out of the crisis by persistently drawing attention to Eshkol’s shortcomings. Of the three, Dayan was the most devious, manipulative and power-hungry. His greatest ambition was to replace Eshkol as Minister of Defence… Military pressure on the cabinet to agree to immediate military action against Egypt steadily intensified… That evening [May 28th 1967] Eshkol met with the General staff to explain the decision of the cabinet [ to wait two or three weeks following President Johnson’s promise to organize international action to resolve the Straits of Tiran crisis.] The meeting was very stormy. The generals used blunt language in charging the civilian leadership with weakness, muddle and confusion… Eshkol disputed that the only way to achieve deterrence was by launching an immediate attack, and he elaborated on his reasons against preventative war. ‘Would we live for ever by the sword?’ he asked,his voice rising in anger. The atmosphere became so intolerable that the meeting had to be adjourned… What was said on ‘the night of the generals’ was so blunt and so harsh that it could be seen as verging on open rebellion.” (‘The Iron Wall’, pages 238-240)

        And there you have the tragedy of Israel. In a democracy the military is the subordinate servant of the elected political leadership. In a military state like Israel, albeit with superficial trappings of democracy, the real power base is so often the army, who have a vested interest in for ever living by the sword.

      • Mooser on December 1, 2014, 3:42 pm

        ” Of the three, Dayan was the most devious, manipulative and power-hungry.”

        And there was no chance Dead-Eye Dayan would “kick the habit, and give up smoting for good”

  10. Walid on November 29, 2014, 3:59 pm

    Saeb Erekat is also in the news, and he too is saying maybe yes and maybe no for the UN bid; here we go again:

    From Times of Israel:

    Saeb Erekat to Haaretz: Palestinians have not yet delayed UN bid

    Chief negotiator’s remark follows announcement by PA foreign minister that Palestinians have decided to postpone the UN motion.

    By Jack Khoury | Nov. 24, 2014 | 2:59 PM

    The Palestinian Authority has not yet decided whether or not it will postpone a bid at the United Nations Security Council to achieve recognition as a state and set a timetable for ending the Israeli occupation.

    That according to the authority’s chief negotiator Saeb Erekat, who spoke to Haaretz following a report in Ma’an saying the Palestinian leadership would postpone the motion. Erekat added that, as it stands, the proposal is still due to be submitted as planned on November 29.

    In an interview with the Palestinian news agency, PA Foreign Minister Riad Malki said the Palestinians had decided to delay the UN bid. He cited the negotiations between the world powers and Iran as the reason for the delay, but also admitted that the Palestinians have failed to secure nine out of 15 votes at the Security Council.

    Malki also said Washington was vehemently opposed to the resolution, which was supposed to be submitted at the end of the month, and added that it could lead to economic sanctions against the Palestinian Authority.

    Malki said, however, that the UN bid has not been shelved and negotiations with member states are ongoing.

  11. just on November 29, 2014, 4:21 pm

    “CAIRO (AFP) — The Arab League on Saturday backed President Mahmoud Abbas’ plan to seek UN endorsement for a timetable for declaring an independent state, and rejected recognizing Israel as a Jewish state.

    But the extraordinary meeting of Arab foreign ministers, which Abbas attended, did not announce when they would approach the United Nations Security Council.

    A statement said the ministers agreed on a plan which includes submitting an “Arab proposal to the United Nations Security Council to end the (Israeli) occupation,” of Palestinian land.”

    more @

    • Walid on November 29, 2014, 4:57 pm

      “But the extraordinary meeting of Arab foreign ministers, which Abbas attended, did not announce when they would approach the United Nations Security Council. ”

      I’m surprised seafood hasn’t yet answered your question with “boukra fi michmich”

      • Walid on November 29, 2014, 4:58 pm

        Sorry, I should start wearing my glasses.

      • just on November 29, 2014, 5:01 pm

        lol, Walid…

    • Walid on November 29, 2014, 5:08 pm

      Just, the real news out of Cairo today is the final “not guilty” verdict for Hosni Mubarak, his sons, ministers and friends in any killings or wrongdoings.

      With the ensuing Brotherhood rioting because of the verdict, already one person killed, many injured and many more arrested. Mubarak supporters also in the streets celebrating.

      • just on November 29, 2014, 5:12 pm

        I know. I am watching RT right now~ apparently el- Sisi’s goons are using live fire…

        another fine kettle of fish that the US/Isr generously helped to stir up.

  12. just on November 29, 2014, 4:32 pm

    ruh- roh~ no ‘quiet’ for the PM…

    “Large left-wing protest erupts outside of Netanyahu’s home in J’lem

    Hundreds of citizens, MK’s and left-wing activists protested the controversial Nationality Law outside of Netanyahu’s home in Jerusalem, former head of Shin Bet called Netanyahu an ‘ego-maniac.’

    Hundreds of citizens, MK’s and left-wing activists gathered outside of the home of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem on Saturday night to protest the legislation of the controversial Nationality Law.

    Under heavy police supervision, the protesters chanted “Jews and Arabs refuse to be enemies,” and attacked Netanyahu’s conduct.

    During the protest – one of the largest to take place outside of the Prime Minister’s house in the capital in recent years – Gillon stressed that “the law eats and will eat like a cancer in the body of all of its citizens. The continuation of the masochistic and radical policy at the Temple Mount will lead to a war of Gog and Magog against the entire Jewish nation.”

    Former Education Minister Yossi Sarid also spoke at the protest and said, “Netanyahu said that Israel is for Jews only, and we are here to correct him on his mistake. This is a country for all of its citizens, Jews and Arabs together. Nobody here is the tenant or the guest, and nobody alone is the landlord.”

    “Israel is no longer the democracy that you used to flaunt so much,” said Sarid, directing his words at American Jews.

    MK Erel Margalit (Labor) responded to Netanyahu’s criticism directed at left-wing parties and said, “We have an evacuation and construction plan. We are here to vacate you soon from the tabernacle of prime minister. We are here to vacate you and your nationalist friends.””,7340,L-4597563,00.html

  13. eljay on November 29, 2014, 4:55 pm

    Last week when discussing Israel’s proposed new Jewish and democratic law, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated that in the land of Israel, “only the Jewish People have national rights: A flag, anthem, the right of every Jew to immigrate to the country, and other national symbols.”

    In other words: Israel is a religion-supremacist “Jewish State”. Justice, accountability and equality – along with the Palestinians – can go f*ck themselves.

    • amigo on November 30, 2014, 9:06 am

      “Justice, accountability and equality – along with the Palestinians – can go f*ck themselves. -” Eljay

      He learned that from the Unionists in Northern Ireland.Their claim was that “Ulster is a Protestant country for a Protestant People” even though circa of one third of Ulster is in the Republic of Ireland and circa 45% of Ulsters population are Catholic .Netanyahu ought to at the History of Northern Ireland and note how badly things worked out for those supremacists.

      • amigo on November 30, 2014, 9:12 am

        Walid, correction.That should read !,

        Even though Northern Ireland is 45% Catholic.

    • OyVey00 on November 30, 2014, 9:42 am

      You make the common mistake of confusing Jewish religion and ethnicity. You don’t have to be a believer of Judaism to emigrate to Israel and get Israeli citizenship. You have to be ethnically Jewish. They even do DNA tests in doubtful cases, look it up.

      The “Jews are a religious group and not an ethnicity” is one of the most widespread Zionist propaganda myths.

      • RoHa on November 30, 2014, 7:37 pm

        ‘The “Jews are a religious group and not an ethnicity” is one of the most widespread Zionist propaganda myths.’

        But, of course, when it suits them, Jews are not just a religious group, but also an ethnicity, a people, a cultural group, a civilisation, a cheesecake photography club, a nation, or whatever combination of the preceding categories is required.

      • Mooser on December 1, 2014, 10:55 am

        ” You have to be ethnically Jewish. They even do DNA tests in doubtful cases, look it up.”

        ROTFLMSJAO X 10!!! So there is a Jewish gene! Which can be detected by test?
        Sure, pal, okay.

      • Mooser on December 1, 2014, 10:57 am

        RoHa, don’t forget “and a floor wax and desert topping” or I will suspect you of invidious tendencies, what those are.

      • OyVey00 on December 1, 2014, 11:39 am

        Too lazy to google? Even mondoweiss reported it:

        Also you do not understand much of genetics, do you?

        A sample of genetic variation including Ashkenazi Jews and Palestinians:

      • eljay on December 1, 2014, 2:39 pm

        >> OyVey00: You don’t have to be a believer of Judaism to emigrate to Israel and get Israeli citizenship. You have to be ethnically Jewish. They even do DNA tests in doubtful cases, look it up.

        – A person converts to Judaism, but later becomes an atheist Jew. Is that person ethnically Jewish?
        – If ‘no’, why not, given that Jewish is considered an ethnicity?
        – If ‘yes’ but, upon emigration to Israel, a DNA test is required, how does he pass it? (I’m assuming that religious conversion doesn’t create Jewish genes in a person.)

      • pineywoodslim on December 1, 2014, 4:54 pm

        So, if a Jew converts to Hinduism, Christianity, or Confuscianism, does that Jewish gene get passed out like a kidney stone? According to Orthodox doctrine I believe it is.

        And under Israeli law, a Reform conversion does not implant the gene, yet an Orthodox conversion does the trick.

      • Mooser on December 1, 2014, 5:44 pm

        What about those who are half-Jewish? One-quarter-Jewish.
        Wow, I’d better have my genes tested. But if I don’t, somebody has a lot of explaining to do. I’m not sure who, but somebody.

      • Mooser on December 1, 2014, 5:49 pm

        I guess I won’t be telling anybody anything new if I say that “OyVey00″s link doesn’t say anything like he says it does.

        Anyway, I’m going into business, the Jewish-gene-testing business! Think about it. For $500, I can test your genes. For $5000, I’ll test your genes, and guarantee the correct result!!

      • Mooser on December 1, 2014, 6:00 pm

        Hey, “OyVey00” you know what your problem is? I’ll tell you! You’ve got to think BIG! You are thinking small, strictly small time, with this Jewish Gene business. There’s so many goddam helix’s running around the human genome, it looks like a scooter convention (Oy, that joke was a honda)!! Forget about small genetic differences, go all the way!
        What you should do is Israel-Lobby all the International-Geophysical folks and biologists and botanists, and get Jews declared a separate species! That’ll take care of that little out-marriage problem, but quick. Think what it will do for the retention-rate!

  14. bryan on November 30, 2014, 2:52 am

    These proposed measures are extremely harsh, indeed fascist ones, but surely extreme measures are necessary to control the settler violence, the price-tag crimes, and the marauding gangs of young hooligans, carrying ISIL flags, and chanting “Death to Arabs” that so tarnish the reputation of Israel. Not to mention those who throw stones at those legitimately going about their business and driving their cars on the Sabbath. Netanyahu is to be applauded if he can finally bring these excesses under control.

  15. amigo on November 30, 2014, 9:54 am

    “These proposed measures are extremely harsh, indeed fascist ones, but surely extreme measures are necessary to control the settler violence, the price-tag crimes, and the marauding gangs of young hooligans, carrying ISIL flags, and chanting “Death to Arabs” that so tarnish the reputation of Israel”.Bryan

    You don,t seriously believe these measures will be applied to Illegal squatters or Jewish terroreeeests , do you??.

    You forget, Illegal squatters in Occupied Palestine are dealt with under Israeli Laws whereas Palestinians are under Military Law in their own country.

  16. just on November 30, 2014, 10:22 am

    O/T, but huh?

    “Unconfirmed reports claim Canadian-Israeli Gill Rosenberg captured by ISIS

    Sites affiliated with ISIS report militant group managed to capture several Kurdish fighters, among them Rosenberg, who joined Kurdish troops in northern Syria.

    ……Gill Rosenberg, 31, a resident of Tel Aviv, joined the Kurdish troops against Islamic State in northern Syria earlier this month. According to reports, Rosenberg said she had contacted Kurdish fighters over the Internet before traveling through Iraq to train at one of their camps on the Syrian border.

    According to Walla, Rosenberg immigrated to Israel from Canada in 2006, leaving behind a career as a civilian pilot, and served for two years in the Israel Defense Forces.

    “They are our brothers. They are good people. They love life, a lot like us, really,” she told Israel Radio, explaining her decision to enter the combat zone in northern Syria.

    Israel has maintained discreet military, intelligence and business ties with the Kurds since the 1960s, seeing in the minority ethnic group a buffer against shared Arab adversaries. The Kurds are spread through Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran.

    Worried about spillover from the Syrian war, Israel has been cracking down on members of its 20-percent Arab minority who return after volunteering to fight with Islamic State or other rebels opposed to Syrian President Bashar Assad’s rule.

    Israel bans its citizens from travelןng to enemy states, among them Syria and Iraq, and officials did not respond to a Reuters inquiry about whether the woman could face prosecution if she returns to Israel.

    • Kay24 on November 30, 2014, 10:30 am

      Israel may officially “ban” it’s citizens traveling to many states, but that is on paper only.

      You can bet they have their agents involved in many dirty goings on over there, provoking, inciting, bribing, and trying to control western/Israeli interests. No one can get scientists killed in their nation, without some kind of interference and agents operating there. No one.

      • just on November 30, 2014, 11:18 am

        When I read that article, all that I could think was that she might just be be Moss*d.

        (If anyone can translate the plaque that she is stepping on with her boot in the linked article, please do.)

      • Walid on November 30, 2014, 11:59 am

        In large letters on top lines, the Moslems’ Profession of Faith: There is no God but God and Muhammad is the messenger of God.

        This is also what is written in white on the black ISIS flag atop an oblong white circle in which is written from bottom to top: Muhammad the Messenger of God. The circle with the inscription is reportedly the seal of the Prophet Muhammad.

        In smaller letters on the lower lines of the poster: Jihadi Base
        Al-Nusra Corps

        Looks like it was a sign at the entrance to a military base.

      • Walid on November 30, 2014, 12:05 pm

        Just, I’m sure you’d appreciate the full story about the flag very clearly explained in a 3 minute video:

      • Walid on November 30, 2014, 1:08 pm

        “Israel may officially “ban” it’s citizens traveling to many states, but that is on paper only. ”

        100% correct, Kay. Right after the 2006 war, Israeli journalist went to Beirut (on her Canadian passport) and filmed a news clip for Israel’s Channel 10 News from downtown Beirut. On her return to Israel, she was interrogated at the airport for an hour or so and was let go.

        About 3 or 4 years ago, an Israeli night-clubber was inadvertently caught by Lebanese police in a murder investigation. After a few days, it was concluded that the guy loved Beirut’s bars so much that he was traveling there once a month via Cyprus to enjoy the swinging nightlife there and so he was released to return to Israel via Germany, of which he was also a citizen. Nothing happened to him on his return to Israel.

        A couple of months ago, 2 Israeli-Palestinian citizens arrived in Beirut via Amman and special travel passes issued by the PA to enter the “Arab Idol” contest. On learning of this, the Israeli Interior Minister said that the 2 Israelis would be arrested on their return to Israel but that at the same time, he would be most pleased to have an Israeli win the “Arab Idol.” contest. Crazy people these Israelis. The woman contestant was dropped from the running 2 weeks ago and the male contestant (with a voice stronger than Mohammed Assaf; sorry Annie) is still in the running and will probably be among the last 2 finalists. S nothing will happen with these Israelis on their return to Israel. +972 picked up the story this week:

        As to the contestants, both great singers, Manal Moussa was eliminated but Haitham Khalaily, my favourite, is still in the running. The video of his second song last Friday night:

      • just on December 1, 2014, 5:52 am

        Thank you, Walid.

  17. Boomer on November 30, 2014, 1:26 pm

    Regarding: “Haaretz reported the Swiss government is working to assemble a conference in Geneva, similar to the 1999 review on Israel’s violations of the agreement. According to Haaretz, the U.S. has attempted to prevent the event, as it did in 1999. The Fourth Geneva Convention does not include regulations on enforcement.”

    It is good to know that the Swiss government is working to do this. I wish them well. It is sad (but not surprising) to know that my government is working to prevent it. It is likewise sad, but not surprising, that I learn about what my government is doing from foreign news sources.

  18. Walid on November 30, 2014, 2:44 pm

    Getting back to the story of Gil Rosenberg, the Israeli soldier of fortune with a criminal record of having embezzled senior citizens being possibly captured by ISIS, we’re omitting the more important story about the women’s force she joined in northern Syria that’s fighting for the survival of the Kurdish people in Kobani. The freedom fighters, the YPG of about 50,000 include 25,000 women volunteers that have received full military training and are fighting on the front lines with the men. A mini-report on these brave Kurdish women, probably the bravest in the world:

  19. Daniel Rich on November 30, 2014, 5:51 pm

    Not a flag? A school, you say? Toast Torched!

  20. OlegR on November 30, 2014, 6:38 pm

    You are mistaken in your article.
    The proposed bill talks only about residents not citizens of Israel regardless of their nationality.

    • talknic on November 30, 2014, 11:21 pm

      @ OlegR “You are mistaken in your article.
      The proposed bill talks only about residents not citizens of Israel regardless of their nationality”

      Uh huh …,7340,L-4596305,00.html

      Israeli Arabs caught engaging or cooperating with terror will automatically lose their citizenship – or Palestinian Authority residency, in the case of Palestinians

      Intelligent hired help must be hard to come by down at Hasbara central

  21. Horizontal on November 30, 2014, 6:56 pm

    It’s hard to tell when Netanyahu is cracking up.

    • Kay24 on December 1, 2014, 2:34 pm

      It was very clear when he stood in front of the entire world, at the UN, and showed it a cartoon bomb straight from a wile e. coyote comic book, shouting about Iran going to nuke the world.
      Years later, Iran is cooperating and trying to reach a deal with the US and other nations, and Israel is still stalling and finding excuses, to not make a peace deal with those that occupied.

      Loony tunes.

  22. bryan on December 1, 2014, 4:16 am

    Just imagine the shrieks of outrage that the following would produce:

    “Last week when discussing the United States’ proposed new American and democratic law, President Obama stated that in the land of America, “only the American People have national rights”. New legislation proposes that alien insignia, especially those of foreign states attempting to subvert America’s unique democratic status would henceforth be banned. Arguing that this was in order to defend America and American interests worldwide from threats of incitement, violence and terror, Obama referred to numerous terrorist groups (including Jewish Armed Resistance, the Jewish Defense League, Jewish Action Movement, United Jewish Underground and Thunder of Zion) that had perpetrated outrages on American soil during the last thirty years), argued that Jewish terrorism was at least as substantial a threat as that emanating from Arabs or Muslims (see He stressed the damage caused to American interests by those advocating and supporting state terror in the Middle East, arguing that those “engaging or cooperating” in crimes against American interests could be stripped of their American citizenship but could also face the loss of social welfare benefits and American driving licenses. The same measures will be taken against those who merely waved an ‘enemy flag’ during protests and demonstrations, including the Star of David. Crucially he argued that action could be taken against those merely expressing their support through public or social media, and the bill would include “a clause that would close businesses and printing presses that print posters [or editorials] that support terror or terrorists”. Analysts were almost unanimous that the proposal, issued in the fag-end of a lame-duck regime, had little prospect of being enacted, but saw it as a significant move in the battle for the integrity of America’s soul.”

    • eljay on December 1, 2014, 8:10 am

      >> bryan: Just imagine the shrieks of outrage that the following would produce: “Last week when discussing the United States’ proposed new American and democratic law, President Obama stated that in the land of America, “only the American People have national rights”.

      I don’t see a problem with that. It would be like Bibi proposing that in Israel, only the Israeli People (citizens, immigrants, ex-pats and refugees) have national rights. Sounds good!

      A declaration by the American president that “In the land of America, only the Christian People have national rights” would be as unjust and immoral – and as supremacist – a declaration as is Bibi’s “Jewish State” proposal.

    • American on December 1, 2014, 11:11 am

      @ bryan

      A few more outrages dropped on my american ‘sensitivities’ by the Zio disease infecting every segment of the US and I might vote for that

      I just today saw yet more proof of what a gd travesty the Zio inflitrated US justice system is…in the Rasmiah Odeh case—where she was convicted of concealing her ‘terrorist past (in Israel)—and Not Allowed to present her torture by the Israelis that made her make a confession.

      The court didnt think it was pertinent to hear what was done to her to get her confession?
      No the court didnt want the Israelis exposed in a US court for the filthy animals they are and have any press pass around the salacious details.
      Here is a account and description of her and her father’s beating, her rape, having a stick stuck up her, ….and it was written about in Alfred Lilienthal’s 1978 ‘The Zionist Connection’


      • mcohen. on December 2, 2014, 2:33 am


        why burn it when you can turn it

  23. traintosiberia on December 1, 2014, 4:22 am
    From NJ the enlightened Rabbi offers his help . In the process he incites collective violence against every non Jewish person in Israel and guides spiritually how to achieve ethnic purity by ethnic expulsion.
    ( Will Cameron still search Facebook to identify terrorism ? Will Obama ask again the Muslim to moderate and curb the extremism among its youths and religious leaders? Will Maher and Harris keep on searching every page of thousands years old Hadith and Koran to identify the sources of terrorism and intolerance ? Will Pamela Geller look for more bus routes in NJ area to warn the tourists and the locals of the danger of Nazi inspired Sharia ?
    Chances are the Rabbi would end up being one of the leaders Obama and Cameron and Geller and Harris would meet for advice regarding the views of the American Jewry or cite his contribution to tolerance and interfaith understanding . )

  24. just on December 1, 2014, 5:49 am

    “Israeli academic Ilan Pappé, author of more than a dozen books on Palestinian and Israeli history, explained that an ongoing wave of discriminatory bills is part of a racist trend of anti-Palestinian legislation in Israel’s Knesset that has intensified in recent years.

    Until recent years, Israel “was uncomfortable with the contradiction between racism and democracy” and insisted that it was possible to be an exclusively Jewish state and democratic at the same time, Pappé told The Electronic Intifada by email.

    Israel “hesitated to legislate in [an outright] racist manner since it was possible, in its leaders’ eyes, to practice a de facto apartheid state with laws that were democratic in discourse but discriminatory in nature when implemented,” Pappé added.

    Yet, as anti-Palestinian incitement has soared, Israeli politicians have become more forward in explicitly targeting Palestinians with discriminatory legislation, according to Pappé.

    The new bill comes shortly after Netanyahu’s cabinet passed a version of another new bill, which officially defines Israel as a “nation state for the Jewish people.” Still waiting the approval of Israel’s Knesset, that bill institutionalizes the communal rights of all Jews (regardless of ancestral origin) in present-day Israel.

    Although nominally allotting Palestinian citizens of Israel “individual rights,” the bill will deny them communal rights, despite how they belong to the indigenous people of historic Palestine. ”

  25. just on December 1, 2014, 8:44 am

    “Rivlin: Israel behaved condescendingly toward Jewish immigrants from Arab world”

    I like that he has admitted the terrible treatment of Arab Jews by the state. One day soon, he will say that Israel has behaved and is behaving abominably toward the indigenous Palestinians of historic Palestine.

    I can dream, can’t I?

    • just on December 1, 2014, 10:28 am

      Don’t Israelis have more to do than figure out roots?

      “Many Israelis welcomed the news that the Israel Defense Forces’ new chief of staff, Gadi Eisenkot, will be the first Israeli of Moroccan descent to attain the senior post. While it is true that both Eisenkot’s parents were born in Morocco, many – including a headline in the cover of Yedioth Ahronoth Sunday – asked how it is that the first Moroccan chief of staff has such an Ashkenazi sounding last name.”


      • Mooser on December 1, 2014, 10:59 am

        Perhaps they need to do a DNA test on him, so they will know his ethnicity.

      • a blah chick on December 1, 2014, 4:16 pm

        “…many – including a headline in the cover of Yedioth Ahronoth Sunday – asked how it is that the first Moroccan chief of staff has such an Ashkenazi sounding last name.”

        Oh my God, that is so ignorant! He’s got that name because his ancestors moved from Europe to North Africa, why is that so hard to understand?


      • annie on December 1, 2014, 4:25 pm

        omg i can’t stop laughing. from the article

        Eisenkot is far from being a common name among European Jews since in German it means “Iron feces.”

      • pineywoodslim on December 1, 2014, 5:11 pm

        @ Annie

        I may be incorrect on this, but a long time ago I heard that when the Austro-Hungarian Empire emancipated Jews, they were then allowed to take German language names.

        If you had the money and were connected you could pay the registry clerk for a nice name like Blumenthal–“flower valley”.

        Obviously, Eisenkot’s ancestors got stuck with whatever suited the clerk at the time. Perhaps the clerk not only had a bad day, but was prescient as well.

      • annie on December 1, 2014, 5:14 pm


  26. CigarGod on December 1, 2014, 9:50 am

    Well, first thing that comes to mind is how the American negros was valued. 3/5th that of a white man, I believe. Looking at the list presented here…it seems Palestinians are valued less.

    • pineywoodslim on December 1, 2014, 5:18 pm

      Just to set the record straight on that 3/5th rule, it was the slaveholders who wanted blacks counted as a full person, and the abolitionists who wanted them counted as zero.

      That was simply because counting slaves as full persons for congressional apportionment purposes gave immense political power to wealthy plantation slave holders. One slaveowner of 5000 slaves in Louisiana would receive the same share of congressional representation as 5001 free citizens of Maine.

      Get ten of those slaveholders together and you may well have had enough population for a congressional district–50,000 slaves and 10 free citizen voters.

  27. amigo on December 1, 2014, 12:48 pm

    Herr Netanyahu, if you don,t like Israel,s Arab citizens (Palestinians) flying the Palestinian flag , then get your Star of David out of occupied Palestine.I just bet , if nietanyahu ha dhis way , the Palestinian flag would be banned in Palestine.

    • Kay24 on December 1, 2014, 2:28 pm

      Well said Amigo. They should get their stinking flag out of occupied Palestine, it does not belong there, and it simply shows Israel’s crime of land theft.

    • WeAreAllMadeOfStars on December 1, 2014, 4:40 pm

      Correct me if I’m wrong but up to the Oslo Accord, it was forbidden to fly the Palestinian flag even in the Palestinian Territories …

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