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Defending the Iran nuclear deal from Israel and its supporters


President Obama detailed a “framework” agreement for a proposed nuclear deal between Iran and the P5+1 countries – the United States, Russia, China, France, the United Kingdom, and Germany – with the support of the European Union.  The framework is guidance for Iran and the P5+1 to negotiate a final agreement by June 30, 2015.  This agreement will prevent Iran from developing a nuclear bomb under a robust inspection regime, but still allow Iran its rights under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.  This means it can enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.

Within days polls showed that the American public supported the framework by almost 2-to-1, with 80% support among Democrats, 60% among independents, but only 40% among Republicans.  What’s more, the poll showed that a similar majority wants Congress to monitor, rather than block the framework agreement.

But opposition to the framework deal emerged from the Israeli government, AIPAC, other members of the Israel lobby, and Congressional Republicans.   That opposition caused the American public to back off from its support for the framework, and in a recent poll support a significant Congressional role in the final deal with Iran.

It is important to note that the Israel lobby is not united in its opposition to the Iran framework.  J Street and Americans for Peace Now both support the framework.  They consider it the best way to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power, and they are gearing-up campaigns to spread that message, demanding that Congress “do no harm” in reviewing the deal.  J Street documents broad support for the framework agreement among the progressive community in the United States.

To understand the issues in more detail, we have deconstructed a column by David Suissa that strongly panned the framework, calling it “a dangerous lemon.”  This column deserves close scrutiny because Suissa is the publisher of the Jewish Journal of Los Angeles, and he unfailingly parrots the positions of the Israel lobby.

Suissa starts by quoting Henry Kissinger and George Schultz that “What began as negotiations to prevent an Iranian capability to develop a nuclear arsenal are ending with an agreement that concedes this very capability.”  But Suissa drops the end of Kissinger and Schultz’s sentence that says “albeit short of its full capacity in the first 10 years.”  But that is critical caveat.  Under twelve years of negotiations, Iran went from 100 to 19,000 centrifuges, but the framework agreement Iran is limited to just 5,000.  Clearly the framework is cutting Iran’s enrichment capacity to the bone for the next decade, and even then an Iranian nuclear bomb will still be outlawed by the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

Suissa says that Iran was only “two or three months” from nuclear breakout (“breakout” meaning a country has already amassed enough 90% enriched uranium or plutonium to build one bomb).  But despite his Chicken Little warnings, Iran was never a few months from breakout.  Iran had a quantity of 20% enriched uranium before the 2013 “interim” agreement which kick-started negotiations that eventually led to the April 2 framework agreement.  But under the interim agreement, Iran agreed to neutralize its 20% enriched uranium and promised not to enrich above the 5% used in power reactors.  To say the least, a significant effort is required to further enrich 20% uranium to the 90% level required to create a bomb.

As for the plutonium path, Iran agreed to reconfigure its Arak heavy water reactor cutting plutonium production to less than 1 kg a year – far less than the amount required for breakout.

Suissa acknowledges that the framework extends Iran’s breakout time to over a year, but belittles that difference, claiming that no matter what inspection protocol is in place, Iran will still cheat.  Not only is there no evidence that Iran will cheat on inspections, but according to Israel’s newspaper of record, Ha’Aretz, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu said his real fear is that Iran will abide by the agreement.  In fact, Suissa reaches the belief that Iran with cheat because that is what Israel did when it misled the United States and even France about its nuclear reactor in Dimona.  Since Israel cheated to develop its nuclear bombs, Suissa assumes that Iran has its same low standards and will, therefore, also cheat.

Then Suissa discounts the ten-year inspection schedule, quoting Marc Theissen to suggest that at the end of that interval Iran will turn its nuclear program inside out in a matter of days.  He says that Iran will not have to dismantle any of its nuclear facilities, but Suissa does not acknowledge that under the negotiated framework, Iran must convert its facility at Fordow so it can no longer be used to enrich uranium.  Furthermore, enrichment at Iran’s Natanz site will be limited to 3.67%, using outdated centrifuges.  Finally, no new enrichment facilities can be built under the deal.

Suissa copies former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak to say that bombing Iran’s nuclear facilities will be more like the assassination of Osama bin Laden than the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq.  Not likely according to all military experts, including Israel’s.  Even limited airstrikes would require a massive military operation that would start with American warplanes destroying Iran’s air defense capabilities using “long-range bombers, drones, electronic warfare, land-based fighter bombers, carrier aircraft, and submarine-launched cruise missiles.”  Follow-on airstrikes would then destroy known nuclear facilities, a military action far beyond Israel’s capabilities.  Finally, the introduction of the Russian S-300 air defense system in Iran further complicates any aerial attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities

Suissa follows David Horovitz to argue that under the deal “thousands of centrifuges are to be allowed to keep on spinning.”  That is true in one sense.  The deal allows Iran to use 5,000 older models to enrich uranium and another 1,000 for research only.  What Suissa does not realize is that today Iran has about 19,000 centrifuges, many with up-to-date technology, so the deal reduces Iran’s enrichment capability to a small fraction of what it has today because of earlier international failures to reach a negotiated settlement with Iran.

Suissa insinuates that Obama is going for this “bad deal” because he is desperate to achieve a foreign policy success.  We hope that is the case.  The deal that Obama is negotiating stops Iran from building a nuclear bomb, if that was even Iran’s intention, a conclusion challenged by both US and Israel intelligence agencies.

Finally, Suissa worries that Iran will eventually attempt to develop a nuclear bomb.  We share that worry.  The ultimate driver for Iran to build a nuclear bomb is Israel’s arsenal of 100 or more nuclear bombs, as well as its endless threats to attack Iran.  What is needed is a Middle East nuclear-free zone.  But we doubt Suissa would support that because it would mean that Israel would be required to give up its arsenal of nuclear bombs.

In this violent part of the world, diplomacy is the only way to stop a technologically sophisticated country like Iran from developing nuclear bombs to match Israel’s nuclear arsenal.  Obama is well aware that, at most, bombing will only delay Iran for a 2-4 year period, while giving Iran an unchallengeable right to develop nuclear weapons.

While this debate might seem remote, involving international politics, we think it is important enough for us to not only closely follow the issues, but do all we can to avert another Middle Eastern conflagration.

Jeff Warner and Dick Platkin

Jeff Warner and Dick Platkin are members of LA Jews for Peace.  They welcome comments and questions at [email protected]

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  1. traintosiberia on April 22, 2015, 1:51 pm


    Washington Post political correspondent David Broder has kind words for President Barack Obama in in his opinion column Sunday, arguing that it isn’t the president’s fault the economy is stuck in reverse.

    But the four-decade-plus veteran of Washington politics offers a startling solution to the president’s political and economic woes: March off to war with Iran.

    2 The main strategic priority for the US is not the Islamic State but Iran, a former speechwriter for George W. Bush said on Tuesday.

    Speaking about the crisis in Syria on BBC’s Newsnight, David Frum accused Washington of making “too much of a priority out of the Islamic State”, adding that the militants, who currently control swathes of land across Iraq and Syria, are not the West’s most important strategic threat in the region.

    “That is Iran,” said Frum, who currently writes for The Atlantic. “Because of our [America’s] focus on the Islamic State… the Obama administration has been leading us into a de facto partnership with Iran.”

    3 Huckabee: Iran regime a ‘snake’ to be killed before it bites | The Times of Israel

    4 , Senator Lindsey Graham (R.-S.C.) told Netanyahu, “The Congress will follow your lead” on Iran and would demand a role in the final settlement. —-Gareth Porter

  2. annie on April 22, 2015, 2:22 pm

    Suissa copies former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak to say that bombing Iran’s nuclear facilities will be more like the assassination of Osama bin Laden

    this is hysterical, comparing taking out all of iran’s nuclear facilities to invading one domestic home/compound in pakistan! ah, but it’s all relative:

    than the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq.

    iow, it won’t be a ten year war? and they know this how? don’t they think iran has the capability to retaliate? or are they so confident that if iran does retaliate the US/IS is capable of making a desert and calling it peace.

    on a scale from 1 to 10, one being the (alleged) assassination of bin laden and 10 being the invasion and occupation of iraq, Suissa is claiming this would be a 4, 3 or 2 (closer to 1 than a number over 5)? what kind of idiots speculate like this?

    • amigo on April 22, 2015, 2:30 pm

      “iow, it won’t be a ten year war? and they know this how? don’t they think iran has the capability to retaliate? or are they so confident that if iran does retaliate the US/IS is capable of making a desert and calling it peace. ” Annie

      Come Annie , it will be a slam dunk .Easi peasi , a walk in the park.Just like taking candy from a kid.Israel always places great confidence in Americas boys and girls to get the job done for Israel and if it costs American lives –well they can always claim they never asked Americans to die for Israel.

      • pabelmont on April 22, 2015, 3:32 pm

        amigo: And a war with Iran will also be a “piece of cake”. “As easy as falling off a log.”

        So easy to make announcements from an arm-chair. And what’s another $1T down the drain to USA? And those people, if you can call them that, you know, who live in Iran, they have dark skins and talk a really seriously funny language. Don’t love their kids, either. It’s an established fact.

        So a USA war with Iran would be OK. Glatt Kosher in fact.

      • Citizen on April 23, 2015, 12:57 pm

        israeli leaders say to each other, no problem for USA, it can easily take Iran’s punches. Many US troopers have teen on 15 or more expeditions to the Middle East. They are akin to the small number of guys sent back again and again to actually battle the last ditch German effort at the Battle of the Bulge.

        The US combat troops became known as “the rag men.”(To be distinguished from “the rag man’s son,” Mr Kirk Douglas) We now have a new version.

        Futrther, the USA has a long history of treating its war veterans like shit.

      • annie on April 23, 2015, 7:45 pm

        amigo, israel knows very well it won’t be a cakewalk and they don’t care. they are using the quick and easy promotion to convince americans to go to war, not because it relates to the truth.

        once we invade, like iraq, they want iran to burn for a long long time. they want to destroy it just like iraq was destroyed. they want to send it back to the stone age. they know it won’t be quick. they lie w/impunity all the time.

  3. JLewisDickerson on April 22, 2015, 5:22 pm

    RE: “Suissa acknowledges that the framework extends Iran’s breakout time to over a year, but belittles that difference, claiming that no matter what inspection protocol is in place, Iran will still cheat.” ~ David Suissa’s psychological projection*

    * SEE: “How Israel Out-Foxed US Presidents”, By Morgan Strong (A Special Report),, 5/31/10

    [EXCERPT] ● Secret Nukes and JFK
    . . . Even as it backed down in the Sinai [following its invasion in 1956], Israel was involved in another monumental deception, a plan for building its own nuclear arsenal.
    In 1956, Israel had concluded an agreement with France to build a nuclear reactor in the Negev desert. Israel also signed a secret agreement with France to build an adjacent plutonium reprocessing plant.
    Israel began constructing its nuclear plant in 1958. However, French President Charles de Gaulle was worried about nuclear weapons destabilizing the Middle East and insisted that Israel not develop a nuclear bomb from the plutonium processing plant. Prime Minister Ben-Gurion assured de Gaulle that the processing plant was for peaceful purposes only.

    After John F. Kennedy became President, he also wrote to Ben-Gurion explicitly calling on Israel not to join the nuclear-weapons club, drawing another pledge from Ben-Gurion that Israel had no such intention.
    Nevertheless, Kennedy continued to press, forcing the Israelis to let U.S. scientists inspect the nuclear reactor at Dimona. But the Israelis first built a fake control room while bricking up and otherwise disguising parts of the building that housed the plutonium processing plant.
    In return for allowing inspectors into Dimona, Ben-Gurion also demanded that the United States sell Hawk surface-to-air missiles to the Israeli military. Kennedy agreed to the sale as a show of good faith.
    Subsequently, however, the CIA got wind of the Dimona deception and leaked to the press that Israel was secretly building a nuclear bomb.
    After Kennedy’s assassination, President Lyndon Johnson also grew concerned over Israel’s acquiring nuclear weapons. He asked then-Prime Minister Levi Eshkol to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
    Eshkol assured Johnson that Israel was studying the matter and would sign the treaty in due course. However, Israel has never signed the treaty
    and never has admitted that it developed nuclear weapons. [For details, See “Israel and The Bomb” by Avner Cohen.] . . .


    P.S. ALSO SEE: “How Israel Hid Its Secret Nuclear Weapons Program”, By Avner Cohen and William Burr,, April 15, 2015
    An exclusive look inside newly declassified documents shows how Israel blocked U.S. efforts to uncover its secret nuclear reactor.
    LINK –

    • lysias on April 22, 2015, 5:25 pm

      LBJ was never serious about those demands on Israel.

      • JLewisDickerson on April 22, 2015, 5:32 pm

        That is quite possible, but others in his administration were very concerned about the implications of Israel having nuclear weapons.

    • traintosiberia on April 23, 2015, 7:33 pm

      Lying comes so easily to Zionist . Suspecting other of lying also comes very easily. Looking at the mirror very morning and seeing Ben Guiron these Zionist warn the world that Iran will deceive them. Projecting the same thought process ,they even refer to the Taqia ( or some similar name justifying religious approval of lying for the sake of religious gains) guiding Iranian game plan.
      If Golda Meir were around today,she would have said ” we won’t forgive Iranians for forcing us to suspect them ” .

      BTW Lyndon Johmson was allowing a beautiful Israeli spy to stay in WH while the 1967 war was breaking out

    • JLewisDickerson on April 23, 2015, 9:13 pm

      P.P.S. AND SEE: “Israel’s early nuclear deceit damages Iran nuclear talks today”, by Richard Silverstein,, 20 April 2015
      LINK –

  4. traintosiberia on April 22, 2015, 11:31 pm

    1 In 2013, former IAEA chief Olli Heinonen warned an Israel Project conference call that Iran was two weeks away from a bomb (Two weeks!).

    2 Con Coughlin has been warning againts impending doom coming like a meteor towards the west from Iran for years sitting on teh defesne pages of Telegraph(UK) .Now he thinks that Iran’s reapproachment with Hamas should force world power rethink the negotiations since Hamas is a terrorist organization. In same WSJ( 22nd April 2015 ) article on page A 27 ,he reminds the world how this rapproachment will exacerbate tension between Sunni and Shia since Qatar also supports Hamas ! For some inexplicable reason he doesnt inform the readers that US should look again at Qatar for supporting Hamas !

    3 Barak has forgot now. But ” but when asked in 2011 whether Iran would drop a nuke on Israel, former Defense Minister Ehud Barak responded “Not on us and not on any other neighbor.”-

    4 The Chief Rabbi had been asked by presenter Evans Davis for his reaction to the situation in Gaza immediately after delivering the daily Thought for the Day on Radio 4’s Today.

    He initially responded: “I think it’s got to do with Iran, actually”, before being told he was live on air.

    He quickly responded by making a plea for peace saying: “A continued prayer for peace is needed, not only in Gaza but the whole region”.

    5 “In 1981, when we were launching a new crusade for freedom, in Central America, Samuel Huntington, who is a professor of government at Harvard, and a long-time government advisor, explained in a discussion in the Harvard journal International Security, that you may have to sell intervention or other military action in such a way as to create the misimpression that it is the Soviet Union you’re fighting. That’s what the United States has done ever since the Truman Doctrine.

    Now Soviet is gone .It is Islam . But more precsiely for the latest edition of American fight-its Iranain mullah and its the Iran that is not normal,it is is a death cult intent on making Mehdi return .For other it is nuclear stuff.

    6 ‘ As Israeli leaders should have realized a long time ago, the core of that support is not Jewish activism or money but the deeply-held sentiments of American Christians”-

    Yes Saban,Singer,Adelson are busy weighing the sentiments with teh ill gotten gold to let Us attack Iran


    — Jundallah was being funding in US currency by men with US passports who were actually Israeli spies, in what was seen as an attempt to frame the US for the backing of terror attacks inside Iran.

    Foreign Policy reported Israel’s relationship with Jundallah continued to roil the Bush administration until the day it left office, and that it also ‘jeopardized’ US ties with Pakistan, another nation Jundallah was active in at the time.”-

    8 This included former advisor to Obama Dennis Ross. “We must not let Tehran off the hook, says Dennis Ross at Jewish Agency for Israel’s 2013 Assembly,”

    9 The U.S. policy in the Middle East is a spectacular success for Israel even though it is disastrous for U.S-

    10 Assassination wielded as ‘a weapon’
    Israel has long used assassination against its enemies, “hoping that by taking out individuals, they can alter, change the course of history,” says Ronen Bergman, an Israeli commentator and author of “Israel’s Secret War with Iran” and an upcoming book tentatively titled “Mossad and the Art of Assassination.”

    11 War with Iran is probably our best option

    Joshua Muravchik of Johns Hopkins University’

    12–Why are you parroting Tehran’s talking points, Mr. President? asks Democratic Sen. Bob Menendez. Indeed, why are we endorsing Iran’s claim that sanctions relief is the new norm? Obama assured the nation that sanctions relief was but a temporary concession to give last-minute, time-limited negotiations a chance.

    Twice the deadline has come. Twice no new sanctions, just unconditional negotiating extensions.

    13–AIPAC to UANI: Make Gary Samore Shut Up!

    14- Slippery slope to war if US listnes to Kristol . US Has been tehre before . “Only days after the operation, the Project for a New American Century, headed by Cotton’s mentor Bill Kristol, released a memo that made their position abundantly clear: ‘Now that the dust has settled from the 70-hour aerial attack on Iraq, it has become clear that the only solution for the threat Iraq poses is to remove Saddam.’”

    15 Senator John McCain recently stated that Iran will pose “a direct threat to the existence of the state of Israel” if it is allowed to acquire nuclear weapons, warning further that “The Iranians are on the march.” House Speaker John Boehner recently said that “There needs to be a more serious conversation in America about… the threat posted by Iran,” further stating that Iran poses a “grave threat” to our “security and way of life.” Israel’s US ambassador Ron Dermer stated that the proposed nuclear agreement with Iran “could endanger the very existence of the State of Israel,” going on to say that Iran is “the greatest sponsor of terrorism in the world.” Former US Army Lt. Col. Ralph Peters went so far as to say that “Iran is building a new Persian Empire.”

    16 In December 2013, when The Huffington Post first reported that backers of new sanctions were hoping to blow up the negotiations and would push the region closer to war, charges of anti-Semitism were leveled by the Anti-Defamation League and two other national Jewish groups.

  5. traintosiberia on April 23, 2015, 2:28 pm

    WSJ is at it again .This time Daniel Henninger on page A 11 :The Democrtas Own Iran.

    It is little more time consuming to expose the distortions but distortions and easy to be cast into plausible ,beleivable ideas that can parlay more weight to the existing impression.

    He marches as if he were re-enacting the thought version of the “cakewalk” , from 52 hostages, from earnest honest like Schumer ,Menendez,Tim Kiane,Coons,and from the spell that has been cast on American voters to Obam’s obsession with Iran, charges of undue influences of Jewish money on Congress/Senate and then to Putin adding S-300 fuel to the cauldron while Iran marching across ME.
    lets untangle –
    1- 52 hostages didn’t die in the sea
    2 Schumner and Menendez should some time share the their open sercets with Henninger
    3 Henninger should learn how to do basic math to find out what the voters say about the deal
    4 Before unmasking Obam’s obsession he should familiarize himself with the Israeli obsession of the media and the political leaders , with the obsession of Netnahu/Brak/Liberman/Bennent/Steininz of Iran and the dollar denominated obsession of Sheldon,Singer,Saban and ,Murovchz (or what ever the name is of this real estae guy from Florida) with the destruction of Iran.
    5 Long before Iran started marching across ME, there were other forces that had adorned the landscape- Israel marching frequently across Gaza,Lebanon,and across Syria, Nato marching across Libya and still trying to enetr Syria,and the Isreal-sauid -US/UK supported IS across Iraq,Yemen,and Syria-and continue to do so.

    6 Long before Putin added to the arms race and long before any effects on Iran’s armoury could be seen ,US and West had already initiated the free transfer of high tech costly arms to Israel and had sold huge offensive stockpiles of arms to the Saudis .

    • steven l on April 23, 2015, 6:28 pm

      Case in point: IL left Gaza in peace and soon as Hamas took over it sent close to 10K rockets into IL. Your deliberate ignorance or bias is clear and obvious to everyone to witness.

      • traintosiberia on April 23, 2015, 9:06 pm

        It would be an understatement to say the least that Israel left Gaza in peace unless the quiet night of the prison camp or of th grave yard had become universal standard .

      • traintosiberia on April 23, 2015, 9:24 pm

        A Calculated Risk: The US decision to Recognize Israel- by Evan Wilson

        FDR ” I learned more about the whole problem the Moslem problem,the Jewish Problem by talking to Ibn Saud for five minutes than I could have learned in the exchange of two or three dozen letters”
        This caused ” an uproar in Zionist circles” , Wilson reports ” Rabbi Stepehn asked for an early interview with President” May 23 rd ,2010

        Another reason Israel never wanted any meeting between SyrianIan. Iranian or Iraqi team or leaders with any US leader in case they learned more than they had from the media and the lobby

      • traintosiberia on April 24, 2015, 10:01 am

        The best way to find out the double-speak of Israelis is to read and appreciate the nuances in the topic not under discussion and refer to those findings.
        Here Israel openly talks of the reality of the settlement,dependence on the settlement( for the Start up Country depending on the agriculture of WB ) and exploitation . This article also proves that Israeli court doesn’t try to answer the issue of occupation or boycott but simply issues decrees that would automatically punish or imprison the person or the group drawing at to the occupation and the exploitation
        Then there are subsidies and one way trade advantages.

  6. traintosiberia on April 23, 2015, 7:19 pm

    Israel knew Iraq had no WMD but withheld the information from US and had no capacity to launch swift attack ( Yossi Sarid ,member of foreign affairs and defense committee, Ehud Yaton another member ,) also echoed by MP,Roman Bronfan. The Guardian 4 th Feb 2004 ( AP) Not only holding off the fact but Efraim Halevy confirmed that Iraq had reconstituted the abilities to build WMD

    But Netanyahu gave an alarming presentation to US Congress in 2002 .
    Same Netanyahu gave again same presentation to Congress this time on Iran.
    GOP hopefuls believe him not out of trust or presence or absence of truth . It is pure corruption and sense of hubris : Who is going to stop us – that psychological conviction is also based on the possession of unsurpassed unequal power US possess militarily . They can say and do against a weak country whatever they want .
    This is where the world stands today .

  7. traintosiberia on April 24, 2015, 12:19 am

    Dick Cheney couldn’t convince Americans,American President,and the Generals. But he didn’t give up trying. Question is why . Why he was so hell bent ?

  8. traintosiberia on April 25, 2015, 12:15 am

    Trish Schuh wrote a column in Counterpunch: Swiftboat vets march to Bush’s drum on Iran – naming such luminaries as Jerome Corsica,his Iran Freedom Foundation,AIPAC ,and even the Israel’s Student Solidarity Movement ,The Jewish Agencyn,and Mossad’s Uzi Arad urging in 2005 for more sanction,destabilization from within,support to MEK and th motley collection of monarchist who were supposed to represent Iran, he delved into the broader question of the support Corsi was getting from .
    Corsi despite past fulsome calumny against Islam ,Koran,and Muslim was repositioning himself as an admirer of Muslim’ prophet to showcase his Iran Freedom Walk .
    We don’t hear much from him . Neither we hear from the Israel’s Student if they are staging or will be protest against Iranian embassies worldwideb.
    The swift boating has now been been prepared and incoroprated as the Republican manifesto by Kristol Adelson group.

  9. traintosiberia on April 26, 2015, 2:54 pm

    It was in 2006 .Rupert Murdoch’s advisor Irwin Stelzer promoted the cause of the firing of Jack Starw .according to him Mr Straw was fired for being too influenced by Muslim opinion of the town( Blackburn UK)
    John Williams opined that these forces must have relied on an extreme mental gymnastics to conceive that it would be a bad idea to listen to the constituencies . Press Secretary to foreign office of UK also noticed how Kristol had been advocating the idea that the Iraninans would welcome a military attack on their country as a cue to rise up ( John Williams .Wednesday. August 9 , 2006 Guardian ( UK )
    Jack called the idea of nuclear strike against Iran,as ” nuts”

    It is not surprising given the accolades and recognitions Murdoch has received from the Zionist that he can’t forget his duties to always accomplish what Zionist want from him ,even if that includes the creation of the most preposterous ideas, inversion of the concept of democracy ,and tacitly endorsing a nuclear mushroom cloud over the millions .
    No one would know why Straw was fired. But the neocons by invoking this possibility would have succeeded in installing fear in the psyche of any leader anywhere in the world who would dare to listen to the ” Muslim” or more certainly to any ” anti Zionist ” camp . Irwin Stelzer and the like minded famous movers and shakers knew they were being immoral arrogant and utterly wrong but they must have looked at the windfall ,must have salivated at the hidden prize and must have recognized again the power of concerted well timed lying .
    And why not if Hamas could be ostracized why not Jack Straw for listening to the same universal reality : listening to the constituency .

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