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This has been a remarkable season for talking about pro-Israel Jewish money in the U.S. political process– a conversation about political power. Here are three news stories about Jewish wealth and political influence.

First, Chris Christie attended a press roast in Hamilton, N.J. two nights ago. Bloomberg’s Elise Young reports the media spoofed him in songs:

Another song, “If I Were a Rich Man” from Broadway’s “Fiddler on the Roof,” was reworked: “I’m not Sheldon Adelson’s boy/I’ll tell him I’m another hopeless goy.”

The Forward also mentions Adelson (who wants to nuke Iran, who regretted serving in the American army rather than the Israeli one) in a story called, “Who the Jewish Billionaires Are Backing for 2016″.

A quick look at the list of top political donors for 2014 reveals a striking fact: At least a third of the most generous 50 mega-givers were Jewish. In fact, contributions from Jewish billionaires and multi-millionaires dominated the top 10 spots on the list…

Political activists have known for years that members of the Jewish community are over-represented in the field of political contributions…

The Forward doesn’t leave out Democrats.

[Hillary] Clinton comes with her own rolodex of major Jewish donors, many of whom funded her 2000 Senate race and her unsuccessful 2008 presidential bid.

The list at the Forward includes many Jews for whom Israel is the only thing. Adelson, Saban, Norman Braman, Paul Singer, Bernard Marcus. And it is still the case that Jewish money is perceived as Zionist. President Obama himself quipped that his early supporters were a “cabal”; and they were all liberal Zionists. The Washington Post once estimated that 60 percent of the money in Democratic Party coffers comes from Jews. When I asked Steve Rabinowitz, a campaign consultant, about this, he said that Jewish giving to Democrats was so high that if anyone did a study of it, it would fuel conspiracy theories.

Finally, in this discussion of Israel at a Detroit-area synagogue a few nights ago, Sam Molnar, a grad student in environmental studies at the University of Michigan and member of Jewish Voice for Peace, says that wealthy pro-Israel Jews have fostered a “culture of fear” among Jewish students about discussing the conflict. He related that in 2014, the University of Michigan Hillel invited students who opposed the occupation to host a Sabbath dinner on campus, and the group came up with a dinner called Palestinian solidarity shabbat because “it was our conviction that standing in solidarity with Palestinians against the occupation is a beautiful and vital expression of Jewish identity.”

Money came into the picture.

“We were called into the Hillel offices and for an hour and a half we basically had our identities disparaged. We were told that the words Palestinian solidarity were aggressive…. To be clear, the censorship was never about the interests of students. The president of the Michigan chapter of Hillel said to us point blank the problem was not the students but the major donors of Hillel and the standards of partnership… [Hillel] offered to fund [the Shabbat] if we didn’t tell anyone.”

Molnar said that the students proceeded to have the Shabbat without the funding and drew 80 folks, quite a turnout. He concluded, to applause:

“The 1 percent of wealthy donors should not be allowed to stifle the urgent conversation that the 99 percent of young Jews need to have.”

Max Blumenthal points out that the Forward’s story on Jewish billionaires would be condemned as anti-Semitic if it appeared in the non-Jewish press. I am of course guilty of talking about Jewish wealth publicly. Jews talk about it privately, as a condition of our experience in the U.S. today, and I am of the right-to-know school, because I think pro-Israel Jewish money plays a powerful role in U.S. politics, and Americans have always been able to discuss power. The media seem to agree with me, increasingly. It’s time to have an adult conversation.

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  1. Walker
    Walker
    May 22, 2015, 1:03 pm

    I first heard about the estimated share of national Democratic Party donations made by Jews around 1996, via JJ Goldberg. As a supporter of Palestinian rights I was stunned. I was even more shocked by the fact that this massive political reality and its massive foreign policy implications were mentioned nowhere by the mainstream media. This was enormous malfeasance, amounting to deliberate deception of the public.

    This is related to a second massive reality regarding the media itself. Jewish supporters of Israel have for years constituted a very disproportionate share of publishers, editors and journalists in mainstream media. Given the pro-Israeli bias of US media, this is an in-your-face opportunity for investigation. Is it really credible to suppose that Abe Rosenthal’s views on Israel had no effect on the New York Times‘ reporting during his 11 years as Executive Editor? How did Katharine Weymouth’s Zionist background affect her stint as publisher of the Washington Post? There has never been a finger lifted to investigate these situations or many other similar ones. Again, the American public be damned.

    • Krauss
      Krauss
      May 22, 2015, 1:46 pm

      Most of the giving to the Democratic party is not by Israel Firsters. Or at least that wasn’t the case before. Part of that reason was that the bipartisan concensus on Israel was so strong before that you didn’t really need to enforce it.

      Today, however, you do need to enforce it, hence the people like Haim Saban.

      The Israel Firsters on the GOP side don’t need to spend money to drum up support for Israel; that is automatic from the base. They are there primarily because most of them are really hawkish social liberals, people like Adelson or Braman. On most other issues they are leftists except on two: taxes/unions and Israel and those two override every other concern.

      On abortion, gun control, gay marriage.. go down the list, they are firmly in the Democratic party. Ditto Paul Singer and the other hedge fund guys.

      This is why they are willing to dance with anti-gay pols like Ted Cruz, precisely because Israel trumps all other issues, even if they have nothing in common with him or his base on the vast majority of other issues.

      You see the same pattern with the Jewish establishment embrace of hard-right Christian right types.

      It’s actually quite amusing. The level of insanity these people are debasing themselves to just for Israel is an indication of their fanaticism and why most of these people will not go quietly into the night, but will fight until the bitter damn end for Apartheid.

      • Walker
        Walker
        May 22, 2015, 3:09 pm

        The bipartisan consensus on Israel was much less strong 40 years ago than it is now. In the ’60s and ’70s there were senior administration officials (Dean Rusk, George Ball, James Baker), senators (Chuck Percy, William Fulbright), and even a President (Jimmy Carter) who were willing to be strongly critical of Israel.

        It’s my opinion that the bipartisan consensus was created by the carrots and sticks of the Israel lobby. Largely the sticks. All of the individuals above were hurt. The consensus has always had to be enforced.

        In 1996 Mother Jones published something called the “Mojo 400”, a list of the largest individual donors to both major parties. I took the time to analyze those top Democratic donors whose names were identifiably Jewish. Almost all of them had direct ties to Israel, either as members of major pro-Israel groups or as benefactors of Israeli causes. This is not a new phenomenon.

    • RockyMissouri
      RockyMissouri
      May 23, 2015, 5:09 pm

      I’m not going to donate another penny to the democrats because of this very issue. NO MORE $$$$..!!

  2. wondering jew
    wondering jew
    May 22, 2015, 3:22 pm

    I am of course guilty of talking about Jewish wealth publicly – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/christie-michigan-censorship#sthash.LPIGl7RG.dpuf

    the referenced article was antiSemitic in any number of ways. weiss has talked about jewish money in politics many times for many years, but the article in question was a Jew hating article in many ways aside from the topic that Weiss is focusing on here.

    • Kris
      Kris
      May 22, 2015, 3:44 pm

      @yonah: “the article in question was a Jew hating article in many ways aside from the topic that Weiss is focusing on here.”

      Could you please be specific? Which parts of the article were “Jew hating”? It is very easy to copy and paste, and then everyone would know what you’re talking about.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 22, 2015, 7:08 pm

        I think Yonah is saying the “Jewish Daily Forward” (“the referenced article”) article referred to in Phil Weiss’s article is “antiSemitic in any number of ways” and is a “Jew hating article.”

        But you know, I’m pretty sure that whole “Jewish Daily Forward” place is full of apostates anyway. It’s those apostates who mess up the tribal unity. “Remember the TU, consider the TU! ” That’s all I ask. Think before you excommunicate!

      • Kris
        Kris
        May 22, 2015, 8:55 pm

        Thanks, Mooser, but I still don’t get it. I have read the Forward article twice, and am not seeing how it is “antiSemitic” or “Jew hating.”

        Why can’t yonah just copy and paste the parts he’s talking about, so that I can try to understand what he’s talking about? I’m probably not the only one who needs some help with this.

        It’s so typical of Zionists to cry “antiSemitic” and “Jew hating” without presenting any evidence.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        May 22, 2015, 8:59 pm

        Kris,
        If memory serves, Yonah consistently refuses to answer when asked for a precise definition of either “Jewish” or “antisemitic”.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        May 22, 2015, 11:03 pm

        Mooser, with all this new anti-Semitism that hophmi and Yonah are so concerned about, these days I cant tell the difference between The Jewish Daily Forward and the Völkischer Beobachter.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        May 23, 2015, 1:41 am

        Will Yonah finally give a precise answer?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 23, 2015, 5:41 pm

        RoHa, has any religion ever been so hamstrung by self-haters in its mist? (They’re worse than gorillas. ) Here we have a “Jew hating” rag, calling itself “The Jewish Daily Forward” which has been in business, I think for, well over a hundred years!
        Amazing, isn’t it, that besides being beset by persecution from without, we must fight a running battle with those within the religion itself? I wonder why that could be?

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 23, 2015, 6:32 pm

        I wonder if we are reaching a tipping point, a point at which more accusations of anti-semitism are made by Jews against other Jews or Jewish organizations, than against non-Jews. I wonder if some kind of analysis would show we passed that point a while back. I don’t know.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        May 23, 2015, 9:31 pm

        Mooser, I suspect that quite a few of those “self-haters” are really just misguided. They want to be good, properly Jewish, Jews, but they don’t know how, and nobody can tell them how to be Jewish.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 24, 2015, 12:42 pm

        “They want to be good, properly Jewish, Jews, but they don’t know how, and nobody can tell them how to be Jewish.”

        Go to the “Build Your Own Judaism” website for help with this. Design a Judaism which fits your lifestyle. Choose a diet which may help avoid apostate trouble.

    • philweiss
      philweiss
      May 22, 2015, 4:11 pm

      wrong link. I need to link to something political

    • Danaa
      Danaa
      May 22, 2015, 9:33 pm

      Here goes the idiotic anti-semitic “trump card” from yonah. Heaven forbid we point out that the 0.1% oligarchy that’s ruling this country is in any number of ways enforces support to an absolutely horrific, almost robotically oppressive caste society in the Middle east. That the oligarchy is not all Jewish we know. But just what fraction of it is? and what of the friends of uber-wealthy friends? do they not all flock together like the birds of prey that they are?

      That the abominable country in question should have been subject to all-out sanctions – much more stringent than those put on Iran – for far more grievous reasons, is obvious to any person with even slight concern about human welfare in general. So why isn’t there a a congressional vote to slap sanctions on Israel? is it just because israel makes a good vassal to the Empire? is it really that simple? or are the chicken and the egg merely illusory manifestations of the same dark forces lurking in all our natures, so it’s quite pointless to ask what came first. The important thing is the end result – corruption, subversion, triumphalism, entitlement. The rich play nice together so the more aggressive influence peddlers win,basically by default. The Koch brothers simply give way to the Addelsons, don’t they? seen any rich carping at other rich much lately?

      We can ask about the silence of the congress – that supposed representatives of the American public, that pinnacle of democracy. Are they all – to the last man silent because the money (much of it indeed from jewish sources) bought their tongues?do they fear the likes of jokers like Yohah who keep wagging their fingers while whining incessantly about some mysterious thing called “anti-semitism”? or is it simply because elected officials go with the loudest voices and the victims of oppression and the ones concentrated into a desolate no way out place called Gaza are less moneyed and less empowered and have little if any access to our media megaphones??

      I hope people learn to brush aside these silly disingenuous accusations from people like Yonah and hophmi and jon s who care not a hill of beans about humans in general (none that I ever saw evidenced at least, except as a point hurled out in a debate, cf the Oy vey, what about Darfur?). It is high time to do the studies that will disclose just how much wealth is spent by the pro-apartheid, pro-oppression, soul-crushing members of this one particular ethnic/religious group that feels totally entitled to subject the rest of the country to their big brother, orwellian tactics. The numbers should be laid out as for any other influence or control-peddling group. So yes, people should do the research, look up the names, investigate the amounts, identify the owners and editors of the media/publishing/Hollywood and let it all hang out. Just like we do (or at least some do) with any lobby group, foreign agents or otherwise.

      The people of the world deserve to know the truth. Especially the countless victims now lining the graves of Palestine, Iraq and Syria, among other places where power and money did its thing and poisoned whatever was ever good about the American Empire.

      Sounds like AS to some, I know. But the ghosts of millions of victims (and I mean, millions) out there, including the ones not acknowledged to be victims – sometimes choose to speak at me and so I feel obliged to channel them who cannot speak (even if sometimes I steal the words from my betters…). The bottom line to me is simple; mere words, even if laden with false meanings, like Anti-semitism – mean little in the face of the calamities that became the fate of the people of Gaza, just to name a most obvious victim. People that to Yonah and the like, are not really people, or so I suspect.

      So, I say, lets get the numbers – all of them or as much as is possible. And let the people of the world make their judgement.

      • SQ Debris
        SQ Debris
        May 23, 2015, 5:17 pm

        Agree with you Danaa. It’s time to change the beat. A strategy of defending oneself against false charges of antisemitism, and consequently soft pedaling challenges to political zionism is a clear fail. Time to get aggressive. Tracking zionist money in politics is important. So to is tracking zionist ownership and influence in American media. Affirmative action programs could have been called “Black counting” The multi-cultural movement could have been called “Minority counting” because it addressed the over and under representation of minorities in many areas of life. It might have also been called “White counting.” But it wasn’t. Research on over-representation of a political viewpoint (zionism) in political funding, or into the power and influence of that ideology in the media, is neither “antisemitic” or “Jew counting.” It’s called “important research.”

    • May 23, 2015, 9:25 am

      You Israeli apologists sure do love to say Jew hating and Jew hatred.

      In fact, the hatred is from you.

  3. Kay24
    Kay24
    May 22, 2015, 9:57 pm

    A very interesting read from Haaretz:

    “On U.S. campuses, when does ‘anti-Israel’ become anti-Semitic?
    Something bad is happening on American campuses, and it’s not unrelated to the anti-Israel boycott, divestment and sanctions movement.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-features/1.657753

    • Kris
      Kris
      May 22, 2015, 10:28 pm

      Thanks, Kay24, for the link to the article, which is more than “interesting,” it is downright bizarre.
      From the article:

      “Seth Brysk, Central Pacific regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, makes his living detecting anti-Semitism. The ADL does not level the charge or use the term lightly, he says, but BDS matches the description.

      “The positions of BDS leaders advocating the unqualified right of return of all Palestinian refugees [to Israel], a one-state solution, would lead to the demise of Israel as a Jewish state,” Brysk said. “People who advocate that promote an idea that at its core is anti-Semitic.”

      “Though he concedes that not everyone involved in BDS is anti-Semitic, Brysk cites examples of supporters using incendiary rhetoric, expropriating Nazi terminology to describe Israel and Israelis. For example, he says, some BDS adherents charge Israel with perpetrating a “holocaust” against Palestinians, and he points to a new anti-Israel term du jour — Zizis, short for Zionist Nazis, used to describe Israelis and their supporters.

      “Even when activists temper their rhetoric, Brysk says the BDS movement makes anti-Semitic acts and speech “acceptable and more inevitable,” creating an atmosphere that normalizes anti-Jewish behavior.”
      ….

      ““You get suspicious sometimes,” he said. “I’ve listened to the narratives. Sometimes it’s not that Israel is wrong or it should do this or that. The [BDS] narrative is that Jews are too powerful, too privileged, have too much influence with Congress and the media. It strikes me as containing an anti-Semitic element.”

      “It takes an extremely one-sided approach to a complex problem,” he added, “and rather than really engage in peaceful protest, it’s a disingenuous and prejudiced movement.” Roz Rothstein, founder and director of the pro-Israel nonprofit StandWithUs, employs a litmus test to determine whether criticism of Israel veers into anti-Semitic speech: the “three Ds” of delegitimization, demonization and double standard. Those are key parts of the State Department’s official definition of anti-Semitism.

      “If you apply the three Ds, you can see that [BDS] does qualify,” Rothstein said. “The movement targets [only] Israel, blaming it for the lack of peace. The movement conveniently does not discuss its goal, which is not peaceful coexistence.”

      ““It’s becoming more clear, more explicit every day,” she said of the link between BDS and anti-Semitism. “What used to be Israel Apartheid Week is now called Anti-Zionism Week. No more ‘Let’s criticize the policies of the government of Israel.’ Now it becomes opposition to Israel’s very existence.”

      “And since making Israel disappear would require the disappearance of seven million Israeli Jews, that would amount to anti-Semitism, Rossman-Benjamin argues.”

      These people live in an alternate universe.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        May 22, 2015, 11:21 pm

        ““And since making Israel disappear would require the disappearance of seven million Israeli Jews, ”

        Just as making East Germany disappear required the disappearance of more than sixteen million East Germans.

      • Sibiriak
        Sibiriak
        May 22, 2015, 11:56 pm

        Kris: “These people live in an alternate universe.”

        ——————

        No, they are just playing hardball.

      • Kris
        Kris
        May 23, 2015, 10:42 am

        Sibiriak: “No, they are just playing hardball.”

        It’s a whiny kind of “hardball,” though, and non-Zionists are increasingly unsympathetic to the constant claims of “antisemitism” from this privileged and self-absorbed group. The sympathy comes from the people who have been bought by, yes, undue Zionist Jewish influence in the media and government, and the rest of us are noticing that.

        It is bizarre that this racist group, as it acts out its fantasies of racial oppression right now, keeps claiming victimhood based on the Holocaust, which ended in 1945.

        This attitude just is not reality based. The world can see who today’s victims are, and it’s not the Jews.

      • eljay
        eljay
        May 23, 2015, 1:30 pm

        “The positions of BDS leaders advocating the unqualified right of return of all Palestinian refugees [to Israel], a one-state solution, would lead to the demise of Israel as a Jewish state,” Brysk said. “People who advocate that promote an idea that at its core is anti-Semitic.”

        My understanding is that BDS advocates a right of return of all Israeli refugees to Israel, and not of non-Israeli refugees to Israel. Is my understanding incorrect, or is Mr. Brysk lying?

        The existence of Israel as a supremacist “Jewish State” is unjust and immoral. No state has a right to exist as a supremacist state. For Israel to cease being a religion-supremacist “Jewish State – a state primarily of and for Jewish Israelis and non-Israel Jews – and instead to become a secular and democratic state of and for all of its Israeli citizen, immigrants, expats and refugees, equally, would be a just and moral development.

        “Though he concedes that not everyone involved in BDS is anti-Semitic, Brysk cites examples of supporters using incendiary rhetoric … For example, he says, some BDS adherents charge Israel with perpetrating a “holocaust” against Palestinians, and he points to a new anti-Israel term du jour — Zizis, short for Zionist Nazis, used to describe Israelis and their supporters.

        Zio-supremacist Israelis and their Zio-supremacist supporters, yes.

        “Even when activists temper their rhetoric, Brysk says the BDS movement makes anti-Semitic acts and speech “acceptable and more inevitable,” creating an atmosphere that normalizes anti-Jewish behavior.”

        A moment ago, he was talking about Israelis, and now he’s anti-Semitically conflating Israel and Zionism with all Jews.

        “And since making Israel disappear would require the disappearance of seven million Israeli Jews, that would amount to anti-Semitism, Rossman-Benjamin argues.”

        No Jews would have to “disappear” – they’d still be Jews. Or is Ms. R-B suggesting that Jews are not Jews unless they support and live in a supremacist “Jewish State”? If ‘yes’, shame on her for anti-Semitically de-legitimizing Jews who do not support or live in a “Jewish State”.

      • MRW
        MRW
        May 27, 2015, 12:46 pm

        Just as making East Germany disappear required the disappearance of more than sixteen million East Germans.

        Good one.

    • Philip Munger
      Philip Munger
      May 23, 2015, 2:39 am

      from the article:

      A survey by the Louis D. Brandeis Center for Human Rights Under Law found that 54 percent of Jewish college students experienced or witnessed anti-Semitism on their campuses during the 2013-14 school year, including incidents of harassment, violence or a “hostile environment.”

      54%, eh?

      As opposed to 100% of my Alaska Native students at UAA experiencing some similar or worse level of a hostile environment every fucking week. Of their lives.

      These kids in the recent spate of articles on growing anti-Semitism on US campuses are mostly wusses.

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        May 23, 2015, 7:34 am

        One factor to this may be that these kids are brought up taught that the world is out to get them, and they see anti-semitism everywhere. Another factor is that the zionists have made any criticism of zionist policies or Israel, anti-semitism, to shut anyone from doing so. So these claims of anti-semitism have become murky to say the least. Then we have also seen false flag claims by some who drew the swastika on their door themselves. Anti-semitism exists but who knows exactly which type. I think anti-Israel has been linked to anti-semitism.

      • JanetB
        JanetB
        May 24, 2015, 2:25 pm

        I have got to the point where I find it very difficult to take Jewish complaints of Antisemitism seriously because so many of the people making the charge have no problem being racist against other people, in particular Muslims/Arabs/Palestinians. I feel like saying until all Jewish leaders start denouncing Israeli crimes don’t complain about Antisemitism. I know this attitude is wrong, but I have a real problem with this Zionist double standard.

      • Kris
        Kris
        May 24, 2015, 6:14 pm

        @JanetB: “I feel like saying until all Jewish leaders start denouncing Israeli crimes, don’t complain about Antisemitism. I know this attitude is wrong, but I have a real problem with this Zionist double standard.”

        That’s it in a nutshell! Great comment, thank you!

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        May 24, 2015, 8:09 pm

        I know this attitude is wrong

        What is wrong about it? The great majority are Zionists, i.e. racial supremacists. Anyway, the very word is a scam. Either you are racist or you aren’t. No one discriminates against Jews only –racist is racist. Especially the Zionists, only that they discriminate against everyone but the Jews. Provided these Jews are not dark-skinned, of course.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        May 26, 2015, 4:41 pm

        “Especially the Zionists, only that they discriminate against everyone but the Jews.”

        Did the Zionists put their hopes in individuals, or maybe families, managing to find their way to Palestine, or did the Zionists think that Jewish populations should be turned over to the Zionists for ‘resettlement’ in Palestine. I’m pretty sure it was the latter.

    • Froggy
      Froggy
      May 23, 2015, 12:15 pm

      Can somebody here please tell me what anti-Semitism is. I’m looking for a definition.

      I know what the old/traditional definition is, or was. (The Wikipedia definition: “…prejudice against, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews as a national, ethnic, religious, or racial group.”)

      I am referring to restricted neighbourhoods, quotas for admittance to America’s top colleges and universities, non-Jewish companies’ restrictions in hiring Jews, accusations that Jewish citizens were disloyal to the US, and the like, along with the pogroms and ethnic cleansings in Europe.

      The ADL definition is rather good too: “The belief or behavior hostile toward Jews just because they are Jewish. It may take the form of religious teachings that proclaim the inferiority of Jews, for instance, or political efforts to isolate, oppress, or otherwise injure them. It may also include prejudiced or stereotyped views about Jews.”

      Fair enough.

      However, the definitionof snti-Semitism seems to have changed recently, expanded to include labelling anyone who does not support the State of Israel and its policies an anti-Semite.

      So what is the definition?

      • MHughes976
        MHughes976
        May 24, 2015, 5:14 pm

        I’ve perhaps said this so often as to be boring: no one has authority in matters of definition. There’s no such thing as ‘the definition’ that everyone ought to accept. There may be commonly accepted definitions but there is no obligation to use them: you may think they are confusing or self-contradictory. The only obligation is to make oneself clear.
        For my part, Anti-Semitism is prejudice against at least some things characteristically Jewish. Being a form of prejudice, it is irrational. I claim that anti-Zionism is rational, therefore not in itself an expression of prejudice, therefore not (other things being equal) anti-Semitic in my terms. My terms are of course ‘loaded’ – ie an evaluation (negative) of anti-S is built in (which is quite legitimate).
        If anti-Semitism is defined as hostility to some things done by people who are Jewish it follows that anti-Zionism is anti-Semitic since many Jewish people are involved in putting Zionism into effect. But then anti-Semitism may on this definition be, if some Jewish people are in fact doing something wrong, quite rational. That is to say that this a non-loaded or neutral definition, also legitimate.
        On the ADL definition anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism unless it is ‘because they are Jewish’, not solely because they act unjustly or cause great suffering, that Zionists are opposed.
        The main rhetorical trick is to slip unnoticed between neutral and loaded definitions. The main sign of honesty in such matters is to say what you mean, stick to it and not import value-judgements half way through the discussion that were not there at the beginning.
        Description of people as ‘anti-Semites’ is almost never, in my experience, accompanied by a statement of what the word means to the person using it.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        May 24, 2015, 6:43 pm

        Froggy,

        Before saying “fair enough”, ask what they mean by “Jewish”!

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        May 24, 2015, 8:01 pm

        “no one has authority in matters of definition”

        Ahem!

      • MRW
        MRW
        May 27, 2015, 12:51 pm

        So what is the definition?

        Anti-semitism has evolved into anything that prevents the hurlers from doing what they want.

  4. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    May 22, 2015, 11:03 pm

    RE: “It’s time to have an adult conversation.” ~ Weiss

    MY INCREDULOUSNESS: In this country?!?!* Are you meshugenah, Phil?!?!

    *SEE: “Anti-Intellectualism and the ‘Dumbing Down’ of America”, by Ray Williams, PsychologyToday.com/blog, 7 July 2014
    There is a growing anti-intellectual dumbing down of our culture

    [EXCERPT] There is a growing and disturbing trend of anti-intellectual elitism in American culture. It’s the dismissal of science, the arts, and humanities and their replacement by entertainment, self-righteousness, ignorance, and deliberate gullibility.

    Susan Jacoby, author of The Age of American Unreason, says in an article in the Washington Post, “Dumbness, to paraphrase the late senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, has been steadily defined downward for several decades, by a combination of heretofore irresistible forces. These include the triumph of video culture over print culture; a disjunction between Americans’ rising level of formal education and their shaky grasp of basic geography, science and history; and the fusion of anti-rationalism with anti-intellectualism.”

    There has been a long tradition of anti-intellectualism in America, unlike most other Western countries. Richard Hofstadter, who won a Pulitzer Prize in 1964 for his book, Anti-Intellectualism In American Life, describes how the vast underlying foundations of anti-elite, anti-reason and anti-science have been infused into America’s political and social fabric. Famous science fiction writer Isaac Asimov once said: “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

    Mark Bauerlein, in his book, The Dumbest Generation, reveals how a whole generation of youth is being dumbed down by their aversion to reading anything of substance and their addiction to digital “crap” via social media.

    Journalist Charles Pierce, author of Idiot America, adds another perspective: “The rise of idiot America today represents–for profit mainly, but also and more cynically, for political advantage in the pursuit of power–the breakdown of a consensus that the pursuit of knowledge is a good. It also represents the ascendancy of the notion that the people whom we should trust the least are the people who best know what they are talking about. In the new media age, everybody is an expert.” . . .

    ENTIRE POST – https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wired-success/201407/anti-intellectualism-and-the-dumbing-down-america

  5. Mooser
    Mooser
    May 26, 2015, 4:47 pm

    “It’s time to have an adult conversation.”

    Yes, and unlike the child-like media babel which accompanied the debate over VietNam, or Civil Rights, we will be much aided in achieving a mature national discourse concerning IP issues by the presence of Fox News! How can we go wrong?

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