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Shifting the Discourse: Katie Miranda interviews Adam Horowitz on challenging the mainstream media

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Last year when mega-activist and artist Katie Miranda introduced her free Palestine Solidarity tele-summit on action for Palestine, interviewing prominent leaders, activists and scholars in our movement, I subscribed immediately and her extraordinary online interviews, initiated to inspire listeners to take constructive action to end apartheid in Palestine began landing in my inbox.

Since then I’ve listened to dozens of her fantastic interviews. A few days ago, opening her email, I was surprised and excited to realize she had interviewed Mondoweiss’s very own Adam Horowitz.

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Katie Miranda jewelry.

Katie queried Adam for 30 minutes on a range of questions including his personal goals for our site, the evolution of Mondoweiss over the years, how he became involved in Palestine solidarity (a topic he recently wrote about in My journey from Zionism to Palestine solidarity as part of our Be The Mondoweiss Megaphone campaign).

And not only that, but Katie is supporting Mondoweiss this month by donating $7 from every purchase on www.katiemiranda.com! Please go check out her amazing jewelry and apparel and support Katie and Mondoweiss by purchasing something today

Okay, back to the interview.

About half way through the interview (14:47) Katie asks Adam if he had any funny or weird stories on zionist pushback against Mondoweiss. Adam’s response didn’t surprise me:

One thing is this sort of idea of pushback and criticism being  y’know — one of the ways that Phil and I work really well together is that neither of us really care very much about that. I think some people, a lot of people are really intimidated by that, which I understand and it really cows people into silence, which I understand. For whatever reason Phil and I just don’t really care about that so it’s never prevent us from saying or doing anything.

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He expanded on a specific incident in the past when Mondoweiss was attacked for “misrepresenting Israeli society” which, for me, demonstrates how much our society has evolved so much over the last few years.

When we would cover instances of just outrageous Israeli racism…..we don’t get that anymore partly ..that face of Israelis society has become…more familiar, so that’s something that used to get us a lot of pushback that now doesn’t as much.

these pieces that we write about the privileged position that many American Jews have in American society and trying to have an honest discussion and an accounting of that privilege without getting into anti-Semitic caricatures or tropes but also not ignoring that American Jews do hold positions –  some position of power in American society, and especially when it comes to the way that the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is discussed and framed. The general audience is much more familiar with a Jewish perspective on that conflict than a Palestinian perspective on that conflict … and trying to untangle and talk about that sort of social power in American society which has then impacted the way that Americans view this conflict.

That discussion is a difficult discussion and that is something that we have always gotten push back on – we’ve gotten support, but we’ve also gotten pushback, it has started debates – I think they’ve been really fruitful debates but it doesn’t necessarily surprise me because that is a conversation that is considered beyond the pale in a lot of places and there isn’t really a place to have it.

This challenge to come to grips with Jewish privilege and Jewish power in society, that is a topic that continues to be challenging and that we continue to get pushback on but our job is to push that conversation … push some of those boundaries because it isn’t happening in other places. .

Katie said it was very difficult to talk about Jewish power, but also the issue of Jewish voices being prioritized in the discourse. She told a story about coming back from Palestine in 2006 and giving a presentation in the Bay Area about what was going on in Hebron. At that time people had “no idea” how bad it was there. Afterwards a man from Syria came up to her and said said

“Because you’re Jewish it lends credibility to what you’re saying” and this was before I became Muslin, it made me uncomfortable at the time and it still makes me uncomfortable.

Adam:

That’s a comment that we get too. A dynamic we are always trying to handle. One of the ways that’s problematic is that Jewish voices do get prioritized on this topic, and we don’t support this reality. Mondowiess is viewed in many ways as a Jewish site, so we use that privilege to bring attention to voices that would be ignored but need to be part of this discussion, we try to use it to our advantage but it’s based on racism.

You can watch the whole video above, and don’t forget to visit www.katiemiranda.com!

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About Annie Robbins

Annie Robbins is Editor at Large for Mondoweiss, a mother, a human rights activist and a ceramic artist. She lives in the SF bay area. Follow her on Twitter @anniefofani

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  1. hophmi
    hophmi
    July 7, 2015, 3:26 pm

    “For whatever reason Phil and I just don’t really care about that so it’s never prevent us from saying or doing anything.”

    Usually, radical ideologues don’t care much about criticism. Most of time, that means that their ideas don’t really go anywhere. Sometimes, it means that they wreak real havoc.

    You’ve not been subject to any real Zionist pushback, because most Zionists just ignore you, so the question is a non-sequitor. You don’t intimidate anyone, but you do scare a lot of people, because you advance antisemitic views, and allow others to promote them here.

    • James North
      James North
      July 7, 2015, 3:37 pm

      hophmi: You’ve now made 7229 comments on Mondoweiss, so I guess you are not among the Zionists who are “ignoring” Phil, Adam, and Katie Miranda. If the views in Mondoweiss are so marginal, why have you bothered to comment 7229 times?

      • Katie Miranda
        Katie Miranda
        July 8, 2015, 1:35 pm

        pwned

      • Lillian Rosengarten
        Lillian Rosengarten
        July 9, 2015, 11:58 am

        Mondoweiss DOES NOT advance ANTI-SEMITIC VIEWS. You are channeling the propaganda ministers of hasbara and lies. To speak out against apartheid and Israeli human rights abuses is NOT anti-Semitism. We who write for Mondoweiss have long since refused to remain afraid of zionist backlash and are committed to the end of the occupation, racism and colonialism. Israel must be a democratic state for all. There has been a lack of intellectual honesty in all past negotiations as the elephant in the room has remained outside the negotiations.

    • tree
      tree
      July 7, 2015, 4:11 pm

      hophmi,

      You’ve not been subject to any real Zionist pushback

      And pray tell what is “real Zionist pushback”, oh great and wonderous self-appointed spokesperson for the mainstream Jewish community?
      Obviously you don’t consider accusing Phil and Adam of anti-semitism, or hatred of Judaism and Jews, or of being self-hating Jews, as real pushback, since you subject the both of them to that here on a regular basis.

      So, what is “real Zionist pushback”? Sustained efforts at quashing their livelihoods? Death threats? Administrative detention? Drone attacks? Running them over with a bulldozer? Inquiring minds want to know.

    • justicewillprevail
      justicewillprevail
      July 7, 2015, 4:18 pm

      Radical ideologues?? Lol. I doubt you know the meaning of the words, just a handy smear phrase from your every ready pocket guide.
      Zionist pushback, what? little hop is threatening to send round the big boys? heh, and as for the boilerplate charge of ‘antisemitism’, it always sounds like you are losing the argument, or don’t have one (more often the case), when you trot out your rubber gun. They scare people (but nobody listens to them)? you are easily scared, hoppy, best hide under your bed. Unless there is no room, because the reds are already there. You are hilarious. Over 7,000 comments and this is the best you can do? Oh dear.

    • tree
      tree
      July 7, 2015, 4:19 pm

      Usually, radical ideologues don’t care much about criticism.

      Neither do pompous asses on comment boards, or a whole range of other people, so what’s your point, other than a lame attempt at false implication that because they don’t care about criticism therefore they are “radical ideologues” ?

      Hophmi types.
      Monkeys can type.
      Therefore Hophmi is a monkey.

      I’d think that a lawyer could come up with something better than logical fallacies in his comment. In Hophmi’s case I would be wrong.

    • amigo
      amigo
      July 7, 2015, 4:59 pm

      “You don’t intimidate anyone, but you do scare a lot of people, because you advance antisemitic views, and allow others to promote them here.” hopknee

      Hoppy , I for one contribute financially to this site because it does not allow antisemitic or anti Arab trope.I doubt you give one cent, or should that be shekel.

      I think , given the multitude of insults you throw Adam and Phils, way , you should be sent packing and allow you to find an environment more suitable to your brand of zionist hubris and ad hominem.

      Might I suggest the J Post .You will have an unfettered outlet for your Islamaphobia and hatred of anyone who works for justice and equality .

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 9, 2015, 5:06 pm

        “I think , given the multitude of insults you throw Adam and Phils, way…”

        “Amigo”, my friend, it makes me so sad when I think how close Hophmi and Phil were at one time.

        But now that ol’ lute done rifted.

    • Froggy
      Froggy
      July 8, 2015, 10:59 am

      hophmi : “You’ve not been subject to any real Zionist pushback….”

      Using Israel as the zionist example of ‘pushback’, that would mean blowing people up, along with their families, neighbours, neighbourhoods, and towns.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 9, 2015, 4:28 pm

      “You’ve not been subject to any real Zionist pushback,”

      ROTFLMSJAO!!! Hey, Hophmi, don’t keep us in the dark, c’mon baby, show some “purity of arms” and tell us: What would “real Zionist pushback” consist of??? C’mon now Hophmi, it’s only fair! Before you drop “the big one” before you go nuclear, you ought to give Mondo a ‘warning’ a “knock-three-times-on-the-ceiling” kind of thing.

      So I am dying to know, Hophmi: What would “real Zionist push-back look like, consist of?

  2. JWalters
    JWalters
    July 7, 2015, 8:39 pm

    The courage to stand up to corrupt wealth is one of humankind’s most precious assets. The Jews who join in standing up to corrupt wealth that is wielded by other Jews provide a shield against the sloppy theory of a “Jewish conspiracy”. One analysis even argues that standing up to corrupt wealth is a major theme in the Bible. See “How Zionism Corrupts Judaism” –
    https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/02/how-zionism-corrupts-judaism/

  3. traintosiberia
    traintosiberia
    July 8, 2015, 11:28 pm

    July 8, 2015
    Donald Neff: a Journalist Erased From History for Reporting on Palestine

    by Alison Weihttp://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/08/donald-neff-a-journalist-erased-from-history-for-reporting-on-palestine/

    Mondoweiss may want to cover his works sometime in the future.

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