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The effectiveness of the pro-Israel lobby to intimidate our press has reached new heights

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Two weeks ago, the New York Times appended editorial notes and made numerous edits to Rick Gladstone’s timely piece about scholarly doubts over whether Jewish temples ever stood on the present site of the al Aqsa plaza. The final version of the article completely altered the intention of the article to appease Jewish critics, and unconvincingly blamed Gladstone for misstating his central thesis.  (The Mondoweiss coverage is here and here.)

On Thursday, October 15 during Kate Snow Live, MSNBC aired a segment on the present violence in Israel/Palestine. Amazingly, it presented the four-map graphic about Palestinian land loss (see graphic in video above) that is familiar to most who are supporters of Palestinian rights.  The following exchange then took place between Snow and MSNBC analyst Martin Fletcher, who is a Jewish television journalist with 35 years of experience in the region,

Snow: Another bit of history to remember. If you look at the map, we have a map that shows historically the areas that used to be Palestine in 1946, and then the UN Plan there, and then as it shrunk down to basically Gaza and the West Bank, right, and then at present. And so what does that show you Martin, that the area where Palestinians are living has been growing increasingly smaller?

Fletcher: Well absolutely. But this is what it’s all about. It’s all about the land. And what this map shows you — plus it’s pretty shocking when you present it in this way — what it clearly shows is that if there’s no peace agreement between the Palestinians and Israel, more of those green areas, more of that Palestinian land will be eaten up by Jewish settlements.  [Emphasis mine, IG] Although right now there is a freeze on settlements by Israel, because there’s so much international pressure, the Palestinians say “If we don’t have peace soon, then we won’t have a Palestine left.”

Contradicting the Zionist narrative in the US mainstream press is considered as inappropriate as serving a rabbi a ham and cheese sandwich.  Whether contesting Jewish claims to the al Aqsa plaza as in the Gladstone piece or criticizing Israeli land appropriation as in the Snow/Fletcher segment one runs the risk of losing his/her kosher-for-US audiences stamp of approval.  Gladstone and Snow may not have understood this, but Fletcher surprised me by making the honest comment that the Jews have been taking over Palestinian land and are continuing to do so.

Predictably, a firestorm of anger and invective was immediately directed at MSNBC, Snow and Fletcher, on the social media and surely a barrage of letters and telephone calls to the network followed.  None of it was justified, but the pro-Israel lobby relies on brute force and not truth or logic in order to intimidate journalists and politicians.

On Thursday October 19, both Snow and Fletcher issued an apology for presenting the map graphic and for their remarks.

Snow: Last Thursday, in an attempt to talk about the context for the current turmoil in the Middle East we showed a series of maps of the changing geography in that region. We realized after we went off the air the maps were not factually accurate and we regret using them…. Clearly those maps – that set of maps was wrong. Tell us why [addressing Fletcher].

Fletcher: Well, Kate, first of all, I wish I’d said it right away when I saw them. The bottom line is that the first map showed the area as if it was a Palestinian state. The word across the map was “Palestine.” It was all, it looked as if it was all full of Arabs. And then the succeeding maps then showed fewer and fewer – less and less land all the time. The bottom line is it was completely wrong. I mean, there was no Palestinian – there was no state called Palestine. In 1946 it was a British mandate land. Britain was given control of the area by the League of Nations.

And as a matter of fact, at that time roughly in that area – and this is my estimate – there was about half a million Jews living there and about a million Arabs. So if anything, the map should have reflected that demographic reality. And it didn’t. And it gave the wrong impression.

Snow:: And it points to a larger issue of how complex it is. You were saying to me off camera it’s very complex to accurately cover the Middle East.

Fletcher’s explanation of why the maps are “wrong” is astounding in its misrepresentation. Fletcher claims that the first map falsely indicates a Palestinian state which existed in 1946.  The map clearly shows nothing of the kind. As evidence Fletcher says that the map is labeled “Palestine.” But in 1946 during the British Mandate period the land on the map was called “Palestine” although it was governed by the British.  Don’t Snow and Fletcher remember the movie Exodus? Unbelievable, no?

The first map is about land ownership and not about sovereignty. That is why part of the coastal area and a percentage of the Galilee are marked in yellow.  This is where the Jewish Agency had purchased land and not the area of some non-contiguous Jewish state that existed in 1946.

The Jews, of course, want the focus to be on relative population in order to justify the nation they created.  As Fletcher accurately relates, Jews constituted about one third of the residents of Palestine in 1946.  But that does not alter the fact that the first map is not about population or sovereignty, it is about ownership of land.  More accurately, it depicts areas of Jewish ownership as opposed to the areas of non-Jewish ownership.

This four-map graphic, which has been widely distributed among supporters of Palestinian rights, does have an inconsistency of meaning among the maps, as well as certain inaccuracies.  The first map portrays the small percentage (6%) of Jewish land ownership before the state of Israel was founded.  The second depicts a UN plan which never was realized, the third shows the land that was under Israeli sovereignty and the fourth delineates the land which is ruled by Hamas and the Palestinian Authority (Area A) both of which have only partial sovereignty.

There are some inaccuracies in the maps which critics have justifiably pointed out. The first map does not delineate public lands nor uninhabited wilderness areas which were not controlled by either side.  In the third map the green areas are not Palestinian ruled but ruled by Jordan and Egypt.

The maps can be better understood as describing the expanded Zionist occupation of Palestine, not a depiction of any Palestinian control, ownership or sovereignty.  This set of maps is a powerful illustration of the ongoing process of dispossession of the indigenous people, as Fletcher stated in the original segment.  That is the reason for the hysterical and hyperbolic criticism.

I asked Martin Fletcher, via email, if he “still believe[d] that the Palestinian loss of land in terms of ownership and the increasing expansion of Israeli Jewish sovereignty to be a central issue in the present dispute?” In a notably polite and collegial response, he declined to answer explaining that “almost everything I have said off-air since the map was shown has been misquoted to serve the writer’s purpose.”

I disagree with some at this site, who have expressed the opinion that the power of the lobby to intimidate US media mainstream is in decline.  If anything it seems to be gaining strength.  I offer the Gladstone and Fletcher incidents as evidence of this.

Ira Glunts

Ira Glunts is a retired college librarian who lives in Madison, NY. His twitter handle is @abushalom

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  1. ritzl on October 23, 2015, 1:54 pm

    Maybe not in decline, but straining mightily to constrain increasing levels of divergence for increasingly diminishing returns.

    I just watched some laminate beams being tested. No visible deflection. No visible deflection. No visible deflection. CRACK! Like a gunshot.

    I’m a firm believer that natural/organic processes share common dynamic behaviors. Could be wrong about that, but if remotely true it could mean we’re near the end of this influence/effect.

    Thanks for opening a discussion on where the endpoint may actually lie.

    • Mooser on October 23, 2015, 2:45 pm

      They are determined to retard the discussion. If the discussion can be retarded, steered off into side issues, we can get through another election without any clear confrontation of the issues. I’m waiting to see if the Dems avail themselves of it.

      • wondering jew on October 23, 2015, 3:49 pm

        A Hillary versus Mark Rubio or a Hillary versus Donald Trump will add nothing to the discussion and I don’t see how this election of ’16 is going to really raise the topic in any way. The most blatant insertions of Israel into any election cycle was the candidacy of Jesse Jackson in 84 and 88 in the democratic primary season. Can you cite any other significant discussions before or since?

      • Mooser on October 23, 2015, 5:22 pm

        “A Hillary versus Mark Rubio or a Hillary versus Donald Trump will add nothing to the discussion…/… Can you cite any other significant discussions before or since?”

        Shorter “Yonah”: “The effectiveness of the pro-Israel lobby to intimidate our press has reached new heights”

        Glad you agree, “Yonah”

      • lysias on October 23, 2015, 5:34 pm

        Given the heretical comments Trump has made about Syria, how can you be so sure that he won’t eventually wander off the reservation with respect to Israel/Palestine? After all, he has no need of donors. And he has certainly shown himself to be willing to defy conventional wisdom.

        I would imagine Israel and her supporters have already been most unhappy with what Trump has said about Syria.

      • amigo on October 23, 2015, 6:56 pm

        “The most blatant insertions of Israel into any election cycle was the candidacy of Jesse Jackson in 84 and 88 in the democratic primary season. Can you cite any other significant discussions before or since? – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/effectiveness-intimidate-reached#comment-805036WASHINGTON –” Yonah Fredman

        Maybe you should show us one debate where Israel was not inserted into a debate.

        Almost every insertion of Israel into the ” Ameican” pres debate is blatant.I have listed three below .The third one is JTA folks forecasting the insertions they hope to see.

        1,

        ” The two US presidential candidates on Monday repeatedly spoke of their support for Israel and their intention never to let Iran acquire nuclear weapons, in the final debate before the election.

        http://www.jpost.com/Video-Articles/Video/Israel-Iran-issues-top-final-US-presidential-debate

        2,

        ““And, make sure that they have the most sophisticated weapons to send a signal to Iran that we have Israel’s back. If we do that, it’s going to create a healthier deterrent effect than anything else I can think of,” Bush explained.

        Former HP executive and overall winner of the debate Carly Fiorina expressed even stronger support for Israel in the face of a nuclear armed Iran. The GOP candidate, who won a coveted spot in the second debate and has been moving up in the polls, promised her first phone call as president would be to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

        “On day one in the oval office, I will make two phone calls,” she said. “The first to my good friend Bibi Netanyahu to reassure him we will stand with the State of Israel. The second to the Supreme Leader.”

        Fiorina vowed that she would demand the Islamic Republic open up access to each of their nuclear and military sites “anytime, anywhere” for inspections by “our people, not his.”

        Should Iran disagree, Fiorina said she would make it as “difficult as possible” for the country to take part in global financial markets, signaling that “America is back in the leadership business.”

        https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/49036/carly-fiorina-comes-out-on-top-in-support-of-israel-during-gop-debate-jerusalem/#We5XpgWAfZDjYTql.97

        3,

        Democratic debate: Where candidates stand on Israel, Iran – and Ben Carson

        Let’s be honest: It’s not going to be as fun as the Republican debates. No kiddie table, no crowd shots — no Donald Trump.

        But there may well be sparks, even Jewish sparks, at the Democratic presidential debate on Tuesday night in Las Vegas.

        With talk of a third intifada, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is in the news. The Obama administration has issued statements calling on all sides to refrain from violence, while Hillary Rodham Clinton has squarely blamed the Palestinians. She can be expected to continue her “no daylight” policy in the debate.
        Breaking News

        What will the other candidates say if asked?

        Bernie Sanders has decried violence against Israelis even in pro-Palestinian setting, but is consistently even-handed. The socialist senator from Vermont will likely make a point of condemning violence on both sides in Las Vegas.

        The other candidates have said less on the issue, and so are less predictable.

        Martin O’Malley forged a close relationship with Maryland’s Jewish community when he was Baltimore’s mayor and then governor — he visited Israel three times in those capacities. He will probably stand with Israel.

        Lincoln Chafee, formerly Rhode Island’s governor, was the target of pro-Israel money as a Republican senator — and not in a good way — for being cool on Israel. He raised hackles when he obstructed John Bolton’s nomination to be United Nations ambassador, in part a statement against Israeli settlement expansion. (Bolton was beloved by the pro-Israel community.) Chafee lost that election, but blames anti-GOP Iraq war sentiment for the loss.

        Jim Webb, the one-term Democratic senator from Virginia, has been a blank slate on Israel.

        The other big national Jewish issue of the moment is of course: Ben Carson. The brain surgeon and GOP candidate has said that access to guns might have kept Jews safe from Nazis, outraging many.

        If it comes up, expect outrage from Clinton, who has said that a formative experience was learning about the Holocaust as a child.

        Sanders, whose father lost much of his family in the Holocaust, may chime in as well, although he is seen as among the most pro-gun rights Democrats, a product of his gun-loving state.

        The others candidates responses are anyone’s guess.”.

        http://www.jta.org/2015/10/13/news-opinion/politics/democratic-debate-what-will-the-candidates-say-about-israel-iran-and-ben-carson

        Yep , blatant insertion of zionist interference in the political process of a sovereign nation by a foreign body.

      • Doubtom on October 24, 2015, 2:18 pm

        Although it is useful to point out the Jewish lobby’s stranglehold on our media, we shouldn’t be distracted from the very real and ongoing pressure it exerts on our Legislature/Executive Departments. Everyone in any position of power, in these United States, “walks softly and carries “no stick”, when it comes to any criticism of Israel, no matter how slight the criticism, which should tell anyone, capable of analysis, who is in control of our nation. O’bummer can get mad as hell and stomp his little feet, but he will fall in line according to the lobby’s wishes. Hasn’t that been demonstrated enough for even a dunce to understand? It is well past time to rid ourselves of this “special relationship” we are ‘told’ we have with Israel and which no one has ever defined for the American people, or we WILL end up fighting and dying in Israel’s wars.

    • JWalters on October 23, 2015, 7:36 pm

      I agree. Israel’s catastrophe may happen as suddenly as the Palestinians’ catastrophe. We should probably get some international peacekeepers in there ASAP.

  2. Mooser on October 23, 2015, 2:59 pm

    “I asked Martin Fletcher, via email, if he “still believe[d] that the Palestinian loss of land in terms of ownership and the increasing expansion of Israeli Jewish sovereignty to be a central issue in the present dispute?” In a notably polite and collegial response, he declined to answer explaining that “almost everything I have said off-air since the map was shown has been misquoted to serve the writer’s purpose.””

    I must say, implying the correspondent would be likely to use the response unethically or improperly and declining to answer on that basis is as collegial and polite as it gets, ain’t it?
    Is Fletcher doing a good imitation of a man frightened by a room or corridor used as an entrance hall, vestibule, etc?

  3. Kay24 on October 23, 2015, 4:56 pm

    I agree with the writer Ira Glunts. . The power of the Israeli lobby to intimidate our media has not changed the slightest bit. I saw this episode of Kate Snow and Fletcher discussing this map, but did not pay much attention to the map because I presumed it was the one we have seen many times. I expected Snow to get that call from one of her zio bosses, reprimanding her for daring to speak the truth. After all anything that focuses on Israel’s crimes must be blocked.

    • JWalters on October 23, 2015, 7:26 pm

      In addition to the Zionists’ catastrophic treatment of the Palestinians, the biggest casualty of the “Zionist project” has been America’s Constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech. While not totally obliterated, it has been severely crushed. Along with that has come the Zionist takeover of American foreign policy in the Middle East, and the promotion of needless wars for profit. This has included the despicable fanning of ethnic hatred.

      One would think that professional reporters, of all people, would rise up against this crushing of First Amendment rights, and the concomitant crushing of America’s democracy. Let’s hope they do.

      • brent on October 24, 2015, 11:23 am

        Walters is right on in that the influence on media leads directly to influence over foreign policy. Pushing choas and destrution of Iraq by the Greater Israel players brought great damage to America and that continues.

        This focus on media professionalism is essential to reclaiming America’s foreign poliy.

        Promoting Democracy Now on public radio and TV would be a giant step toward a better informed country on the Question of Palestine. Public broadcasting is suceptible to criticism beause they depend on contributors.

  4. DaBakr on October 23, 2015, 5:11 pm

    wait a minute! I thought after Bibigate , the ‘speech’ and the Iran ‘best bad deal’ the Zionist…I mean pro-Israel lobby was castrated and de-fanged? What happened

    Oh right…the Jews own ALL the media. But then if they do why bother with the ‘lobby’?

    • talknic on October 23, 2015, 6:58 pm

      @ DaBakr ” I thought after Bibigate , the ‘speech’ and the Iran ‘best bad deal’ the Zionist…I mean pro-Israel lobby was castrated and de-fanged? What happened”

      What happened is: you didn’t read the article before opening your big Ziogob

      I disagree with some at this site, who have expressed the opinion that the power of the lobby to intimidate US media mainstream is in decline. If anything it seems to be gaining strength. I offer the Gladstone and Fletcher incidents as evidence of this.

      “Oh right…the Jews own ALL the media.”

      If YOU say so. The article doesn’t

      • DaBakr on October 23, 2015, 9:02 pm

        @tk

        i am not going to dig in the ‘archives’ here but I bet if I did I could find dozens of posts by most of the regular commenters here that were salivating at the ‘lost power’ of the ‘lobby’ after bb in the US congress and the ‘deal’. Heck-I’ll bet you were one of the loudest voices celebrating the fall. But maybe not- maybe you were one of the few prescient ones. PW was certainly shouting about it.

      • talknic on October 23, 2015, 11:55 pm

        DaBakr October 23, 2015, 9:02 pm

        @tk

        “i am not going to dig in the ‘archives’ here..”

        Of course you aren’t

        ” but I bet if I did I could find dozens of posts by most of the regular commenters here that were salivating at the ‘lost power’ of the ‘lobby’ after bb in the US congress and the ‘deal’”

        Making a bet on something you refuse to do is a really interesting concept

        ” Heck-I’ll bet you were one of the loudest voices celebrating the fall”

        Go ahead … put your money where your mouth is … and provide the evidence, verbatim … I’ll wait

        “But maybe not- maybe you were one of the few prescient ones”

        Uh huh. But you’re not willing to find out according to your opening statement

        Bravo! Once again readers are treated to Ziologic 101

      • Mooser on October 24, 2015, 10:40 am

        ” am not going to dig in the ‘archives’ here “

        What’s with the single quotes on “archives”? Well, anyway:

        Shorter “Dabakr”: ‘I don’t know how to use the archives or search functions’

      • DaBakr on October 24, 2015, 9:28 pm

        @msr

        smart boychik. you knew I was thinking about you (whats with the single quotes) and the infamous ‘archives’

      • Mooser on October 25, 2015, 12:06 am

        “smart boychik. you knew I was thinking about you (whats with the single quotes) and the infamous ‘archives’”

        Yes, the archives, the one you won’t “dig in”. That’s a good idea, that way you won’t get your hands dirty. Just keep saying “but I bet if I did I could find dozens of posts by most of the regular commenters here…and etc.” That’s a big enough threat, given your precise, almost photographic memory, and daunting reputation for veracity.

        I won’t, I promise you, be digging around in your archive, “Dabakr”. I know your fearsome reputation for projectile logorrhea.

  5. just on October 23, 2015, 9:25 pm

    Vote them OUT:

    “U.S. House Panel Unanimously Votes to Condemn Palestinian Incitement

    The non-binding resolution urges President Mahmoud Abbas ‘to discontinue all official incitement and exert influence to discourage anti-Israel and anti-Semitic incitement.’

    … U.S. House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee unanimously called on Palestinians to end incitement against Israel.

    The non-binding resolution passed Thursday after a hearing on Palestinian incitement says “the Palestinian Authority has not fully lived up to its prior agreements with Israel to end incitement and should do more to prepare the Palestinian people for peace with Israel.”

    It “urges President [Mahmoud] Abbas and Palestinian Authority officials to discontinue all official incitement and exert influence to discourage anti-Israel and anti-Semitic incitement in Palestinian civil society.”

    The hearing was convened by committee chairman, Rep. Ed Royce, R-Calif.

    “This wave of violence isn’t some random flare-up,” said Rep. Eliot Engel, D-N.Y., the top Democrat on the committee, at the hearing, “It’s the product of years and years of anti-Israel propaganda and indoctrination — some of which has been actively promoted by Palestinian Authority officials and institutions.”

    With tensions rising in Israel, and a spate of deadly Palestinian attacks on Israelis, each side has accused the other’s leaders of spurring incitement.

    The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is maintaining a list on its website of U.S. lawmakers condemning Palestinian incitement.

    One lawmaker speaking during the hearing, Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif., excoriated Palestinian incitement but also lamented Israeli incitement, particularly related to the Temple Mount, also known as the Noble Sanctuary, the Jerusalem site holy to Muslims and Jews.

    “Back in the days of the Roman Empire, those zealots who claimed to be the most pro-Israel did enormous harm,” said Sherman, known for his closeness to the pro-Israel community, in remarks first noted by Americans for Peace Now in its weekly legislative roundup.

    “So now we see a few fringe Israeli leaders who want to disturb the status quo on the Temple Mount,” he said. “They, too, are harmful. They provide a pretext for those who incite terrorism in Israel and those who seek delegitimization abroad.”

    Separately, the State Department cut its economic aid to the Palestinian Authority from $370 million to $290 million annually, al-Monitor reported.

    What’s behind the cut is not clear, but the Middle East news website noted approbation from lawmakers, including Rep. Kay Granger, R-Texas, the chairwoman of the foreign operations subcommittee of the Appropriations Committee, who this week wrote Abbas with Her Democratic counterpart, Rep. Nita Lowey, D-N.Y., warning her that such a cut might be in the offing if the incitement is not ended.”

    read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.682064?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    And Israel is poised to get more than $4 billion for opposing this administration and peace with Iran!

    Sheeet…

    This is the stuff that makes up the nightmarish reality that the terrorized Palestinians are forced to bear!!!!! It’s all fully funded and supported by the US of A.

    • just on October 23, 2015, 9:40 pm

      and, via Ali Abunimah :

      “Just in time to aid Netanyahu’s propaganda ISIS video appears threatening Israel and Jews https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/10/23/islamic-state-video-features-hebrew-speaking-militant-for-the-first-

      https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/657630300919459840

      (uh- huh)

      • annie on October 23, 2015, 10:04 pm

        (uh- huh)

        mcohen can experience another first week in june moment.

      • Mooser on October 24, 2015, 11:46 am

        “mcohen can experience another first week in june moment.”

        Annie, he was right!
        Between 6-1-15 and 6-6-15, it was bustin’ out all over! All over the meadow and the hill! Buds were bustin’ outa bushes and the rompin’ river pushes every little wheel that wheels beside the mill! Because it’s June!
        Just because it’s June!

      • biggerjake on October 26, 2015, 9:31 am

        This is a good example of where to find the root cause of most of the Islamic extremism in the world: In Israel.
        It has been pointed out many times that bin Laden said one of the major reasons for starting Al Qaeda was because of the illegal immoral occupation and oppression of Palestine by Israel and the unconditional support for it by the US.
        The Zionist enterprise and the feckless US government are responsible for the three thousand deaths on 9/11, and it is past time for things to change.

    • Kay24 on October 23, 2015, 10:18 pm

      Our congresspeople are supporting terrorist thugs who attack olive trees, burn them, and then attack a human rights Rabbi, who tried to help the Palestinians.

      A video of the mask thug. Bibi must be proud of his front line terrorists:

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jewish-extremist-attack-human-rights-rabbi_562a6e86e4b0ec0a38945d4f

    • Kay24 on October 23, 2015, 10:25 pm

      It is utterly disgusting. As if Bibi’s lies about the Mufti is not incitement. I notice our congresspeople have some mental deficiencies, they only see one side of the conflict, and the high number of Palestinian casualties, the suffering, the children kidnapped and thrown in jail, by the Israeli thugs, do not count as crimes. Anything racist, or violent, or lies, stated by Netanyahu or his bullies, are not acknowledge, criticized, nor have any resolution being passed, condemning the threats or incitement. This is a strange situation. The US Congress pretends to the blind, deaf, and dumb, when it comes to the Palestinian suffering, and cries for help.

      Netanyahu and his Israel deserves the strongest condemnation, and punishment.

      Instead the Congress and the US keep rewarding the criminals with MORE aid.

  6. eljay on October 23, 2015, 10:01 pm

    Fletcher: … The bottom line is that the first map showed the area as if it was a Palestinian state. …

    The first map showed the area as if it was Palestine. Which it was.

    … It was all, it looked as if it was all full of Arabs. …

    It was all, it looked as if it was full of Palestinians. Which it was.

    What is it about Zio-supremacist Jews that makes people so afraid to speak the truth?

  7. traintosiberia on October 23, 2015, 11:06 pm

    Existing media is under surveillance
    CNN international cant put out same news and footage within US
    Liberman of Israel approached Putin to ban RT be ause he didn’t like the coverage
    Al Jazera was initially resisted against its US forays . It managed to air only after changing its tunes.
    Press TV has been banned in UK.

  8. Brown-Eyed Girl on October 23, 2015, 11:14 pm

    There was no Palestine, there was no one living there, it was not really full of Arabs? That is exactly, exactly what the Afrikaners said about Africans – ie. black people. They said South Africa was empty when they landed and the blacks only came when they -the white Dutch settlers, made the land prosperous! (Sound familiar)?) And I swear once I was watching NBC Evening News, during the time of apartheid and one of the anchors John Chancellor repeated that as if it were a historical fact. I was shocked that a reputable news station and a supposedly serious senior anchor would be so ignorant at best. Here is it again. My god is that woman a coward.

    • diasp0ra on October 24, 2015, 5:51 am

      Let’s hope that it finds the same resolution as SA then.

    • traintosiberia on October 24, 2015, 6:00 am

      This information goes to two interdependent classes but not in the sight of the vision of each other anymore – political elite and the main street Americans .
      They conclude that they have another reason to support Israel .

      CNN experts can always assert that they were simply exercising the right to free speech in the middle of all different interpretations and competing views or they might continue to demand that they were enriching American awareness depending on the context . Iraq war narrative was dealt with in similar method .

      The ways news talk on Middle East are presented ,often leave the scope of negative stereotypical generalization about people of that area from Algeria to Iran ,creating another source of dangerous ignorance and biases in the minds of the Americans. An action could be cited hundred times blaming hundred different actors separated by time and space .

      This is one of the reasons that Netanyahu or his ancestors or his future clan can articulate breezily and blithely that Mufti was the instigator of Holocaust and refer to Saddam,Ahmednezad, Basher ,Arafat or Nasser as Hitler and someone always planning Holocaust in ME. Because he knows the ability of American elites or citizen to give a moment’s thoughts of critical scrutiny are compromised by a diffuse invisible pervasive ignorance brought in by the media . The farce goes on because the adverse effects of the ignorance is not felt by the citizen or the soldiers or by the politicians while the bounty from accepting the lies maintains its allures ,attractions and promises of more parks.

  9. Xpat on October 24, 2015, 3:50 am

    @ Brown eyed girl –
    That was my thought too.
    “Jews constituted about one third of the residents of Palestine in 1946. But that does not alter the fact that the first map is not about population or sovereignty, it is about ownership of land. More accurately, it depicts areas of Jewish ownership as opposed to the areas of non-Jewish ownership”.

    That picture is misleading. It conveys the idea that, based on relative population, Jews had a third stake in Palestine. But at the time of the establishment of the British Mandatory government under the Jewish, Zionist leader Sir Herbert Samuel, a quarter of century earlier, there were only 75,000 Jews in Palestine. Most of that “half million Jews” were newly arrived European Jews who were let in by the Zionist British Mandatory government. They were a sign of the millions of Jewish immigrants yet to come, as soon as Israel ethnically cleaned Palestine of most of its native, non-Jewish population.

  10. Boo on October 24, 2015, 9:37 am

    While the media may still be tied up in knots by the pro-Zionist lobby, those who frequent media comment threads are free agents. And here, indeed, I think we’re seeing a turning of the tide.

    It first started to be noticeable after Operation Protective Edge, when live streams from inside Gaza showed the IDF assault in realtime. That was a real eye-opener for those of us who followed these streams.

    It’s grown more robust lately as readers and viewers can no longer ignore the cognitive disconnect between the hasbara and the obvious ground truths.

    As perhaps the best example, the Washington Post comment sections — the least moderated of the major online newspapers — are currently running about five posts critical of Bibi’s recent statements to every favorable post. That’s a remarkable turnaround in just a few short years.

    Just because mass media is still cowed by the pro-Zionist lobby doesn’t mean that the average citizen is being fooled or intimidated any longer. The signs point to quite the opposite — they’re removing their blinders.

  11. watzal on October 24, 2015, 11:12 am

    After having discussed the brutal reality in Palestine that has been created by the Zionist colonialist, a shit storm broke lose over Kate Snow, the anchor women of MSNBC, and her interview partner Martin Fletscher, a longtime correspondent for the region. Their “mistake” was to present a very realistic sequence of maps, which showed the land theft of the Zionists. After the Zionist stalwarts got after them, they had to eat crow. For an outside observer, it’s unbelievable how the mind of 320 million Americans can be controlled and manipulated by a tiny well-organized Zionist pressure group. Freedom of Speech has long gone down the drain in the US.

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