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  1. W.Jones
    W.Jones on October 8, 2015, 11:09 am

    The man who was once called “Israel’s lawyer” tells his story from the perspective of Israel and its lobby, and says that Israel started getting the brush from the Obama administration after Tom Donilon stopped serving as national security adviser and Susan Rice took over.
    As in, the Obama administration “brushed it off”?

    • Krauss
      Krauss on October 9, 2015, 12:55 am

      This is yet another reminder of how bad the Clinton administration would be on foreign policy. Even if we leave aside her close ties with Wall Street, which we shouldn’t.

      The danger here is that she will try to undo the progress that was made under Obama. Dennis Ross and the rest of the lobby counts on it.

  2. Rafi
    Rafi on October 8, 2015, 11:45 am

    The obama worshipper neglects to mention obama bombing a hospital in kunduz, interesting, he apologised, no doubt sincerely (not) so I guess its slright then. Maybe good old phil will find a way to pin it on israel as well.

    • Citizen
      Citizen on October 8, 2015, 12:53 pm

      Why are you trying to change the subject, which is conflict re the Iran Deal? Who are you to say Obama was not sincere re the hospital bombing apology? At this juncture, nobody has made public who made the decision within the chain of command to bomb the hospital, and the sequence of that chain.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus on October 8, 2015, 2:03 pm

        Apart from subject-changing and other maneuvers, let me try and answer the “who are you to say Obama was not sincere” from the other side of the barricades. As a member of the public who has watched the war crimes of US Government over the last 60 years or so, especially with the more recent crimes more fresh in memory, I know for sure nothing is sincere there. We’ve seen enough targeted killings, including of schools, hospitals, journalists and peace volunteers to know when they are targeted, with none of the well-known and well-learned measures being implemented. What’s the sincerity of Emperor Obama, the one who has arrogated himself the imperial powers of murdering without any process other than his sole say-so, when he apologizes for one more huge war crime? It doesn’t cost him more than a couple words and the so-called chain of command is his responsibility.

      • Sibiriak
        Sibiriak on October 8, 2015, 3:11 pm

        A sincere apology necessitates a change in policy. There is no change in policy, hence, no sincerity.

      • traintosiberia
        traintosiberia on October 8, 2015, 7:15 pm

        Obama made it sure that he would not be another casualty like JFK was. Achieve something and don’t fight each and every battle.
        There is pressure on him from neocon from every direction He has helped the country in solving Iran issue ,has stopped slide to war against Russia and hasn’t responded to calls from Clinton Power,Kagan in attacking Syria.

      • inbound39
        inbound39 on October 8, 2015, 9:44 pm

        Rafi is probably one of those talented people that reads minds….you find them predominantly in rehabs.

      • eljay
        eljay on October 8, 2015, 10:05 pm

        || Sibiriak: A sincere apology necessitates a change in policy. There is no change in policy, hence, no sincerity. ||

        Well said.

        Perhaps Barry O. should have simply “accepted full responsibility”. No-one who does that ever seems to be held accountable…

    • K Renner
      K Renner on October 8, 2015, 1:25 pm

      Israel bombs hospitals, kills the people in them, and then whines and lies to the world as much as possible.

      Deflect, try to absolve the IAF, demonize and dehumanize the people they killed. Wash, rinse, repeat.

      Obama has at least the good grace to sincerely apologize. Not so the case with Israelheads and Hasbaraturds all over, especially online, when Israel does something like that.

      Fail, again.

    • italian ex-pat
      italian ex-pat on October 8, 2015, 6:57 pm

      @ Rafi

      “… maybe good old phil will find a way to pin it on israel”

      It certainly could be argued that Israel ‘legitimized’ bombing a hospital after she did precisely that, last summer in Gaza, with very little condemnation from her allies. I know, I know, it’s all Hamas’ fault for hiding among the patients . . . or so we’ve been told. As if that justified killing a hundred innocents along with the enemy. Because if that is the case you shouldn’t object to the Kunduz bombing, as the Afghan government claims there were Taliban militants in the hospital – or at least the doctors there were treating them regardless of their combatant status, which may have irritated some people.

      And while on the subject, I’d like to point out that, according to various reliable sources, Israel is treating Syrian rebels at her Ziv hospital – I’m talking Nusra Front and Al Qaida, if not actually ISIS – and then sending them back to battle. Assad and Putin might find that irritating.

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso on October 9, 2015, 2:08 pm

      Apart from being utterly irrelevant to the subject at hand, your comment is inane.

      Regarding your observation that “The obama worshipper neglects to mention obama bombing a hospital in kunduz,” I wasn’t aware that Obama was flying the plane or that he ordered it to attack the hospital in Kunduz.

  3. Ossinev
    Ossinev on October 8, 2015, 12:35 pm

    Rafi. Obama did not direct/glorify/gloat over the Kunduz tarrgeting unlike Nitay who has been absolutely wetting his pants in glee over the carnage which he has been inflicting on innocent men women and children in Gaza in the last decade. And no I don`t think that Phil will pin the blame on poor little defenceless victimised misunderstood Israel for this one . He has got what is known to the civilised Western world as “integrity” – something that currently is a rapidly shrinking commodity in your vainglorious little Middle Eastern colony.

  4. John Douglas
    John Douglas on October 8, 2015, 12:49 pm

    Phil reporting on Dennis Ross’s article, “Donilon would have smoothed things over with Israeli PM Netanyahu and assured him that the US would use force against Iran. But Rice and Obama didn’t want to use force.”

    Ross actually means this as praise for Donilon, where “use force against” means bomb the Iranian people based on a non-existent nuclear threat, yet another Muslim nation with tens of thousands dead at US hands, and assuring deadly responses from Muslims worldwide. This man actually represented the US in “peace talks” between Palestinians and Israelis. Incredible!

  5. Nevada Ned
    Nevada Ned on October 8, 2015, 12:52 pm

    It may come as news to Dennis Ross, but all members of the UN promise “to refrain from force or threat of force”, so when the US tells Iran that ‘all options are the table’ that is a threat of force. And that is a violation of solemn promises made by the US and many other countries.

    Dennis Ross is of course intentionally blind to all of this. What would restore his eyesight?
    If the US told Israel that “all options are on the table” in dealing with Israel. That definitely would get his attention.

    Those who, like Netanyahu or Ross, never tire of proclaiming that “this is Munich”, never think about how much like Munich it must look to the other side. If the Iranians capitulate to US/Israeli military threats, the US/Israel will threaten Iran again.

    • Emory Riddle
      Emory Riddle on October 8, 2015, 1:21 pm

      Dennis Ross is of course intentionally blind to all of this. What would restore his eyesight?

      A nice long and well deserved stint in prison might bring him around.

      • JWalters
        JWalters on October 8, 2015, 8:01 pm

        Absolutely right!

        “Israel would be confronted with unpalatable choices”, Dennis Ross worries, weeping crocodile tears by the barrel.

  6. ziusudra
    ziusudra on October 8, 2015, 12:59 pm

    Greetings Phil.,
    ….If Clinton gets into the WH, look for him (Ross) to return as the eminent statesman……..
    Thank you, i just learned that with aipac funding both parties, they get to pick & choose, their high echelon American Israelis for positions in the new adminestration.

  7. Kathleen
    Kathleen on October 8, 2015, 1:17 pm

    Did Ross leave the Obama administration or was he quietly given the boot? If Clinton give any strong indication of picking up Ross will steer even more of us away from ever supporting her. What do we want more of the same?

    • pabelmont
      pabelmont on October 8, 2015, 2:23 pm

      No reason to prefer Clinton to anyone — except the know-nothing Republicans. Many will be wondering if Bernie is another McGovern or Adlai Stevenson. I’d hate to throw the actual election to any Republican just because I wanted an unelectable socialist. What I’d really like is for enough people to demand a PLEDGE from all candidates — for all offices — to support an amendment that only human citizens can pay for political action and that no-one can pay all that much. Also a PLEDGE on climate change. I am not sure I’ve heard Clinton support either of these, the real two great necessary reforms of our age,

  8. amigo
    amigo on October 8, 2015, 1:19 pm

    “Donilon would have smoothed things over with Israeli PM Netanyahu and assured him that the US would use force against Iran. But Rice and Obama didn’t want to use forc – See more at:“.

    The American People elected Obama as their President .Obama picked Susan Rice for the job.They did not elect him to do the bidding of a foreign power.

    So go suck on it Ross and the rest of your Israel first gang. You think the American people exist to do Israel,s bidding at their own expense.

  9. on October 8, 2015, 1:42 pm

    Hopefully, millions of people will not be voting for Hillary if they think that Dennis Ross will be part of her administration. He is definitely a loser for Israel. Like his friend Bibi, he has no intention of giving a inch to the Palestinians and is only working to achieve a greater Israel from the sea to the river.

  10. a blah chick
    a blah chick on October 8, 2015, 1:43 pm

    I’m pretty sure SOMEONE on the Israeli side used the n-word, and more than once.

  11. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson on October 8, 2015, 1:58 pm

    RE: “If Clinton gets into the White House, look for him to return as the eminent statesman.” ~ Weiss

    MY COMMENT: It wouldn’t surprise me if Hillary Clinton has already promised as much (and a lot more) to Haim Saban! ! !

    P.S. At this point, I would vote for Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton! ! ! (I’m hoping Bernie Sanders will be the Democratic nominee to spare me that agonizing choice.)

  12. Bandolero
    Bandolero on October 8, 2015, 9:57 pm

    What I find interesting is that nobody, not Politico, not the New York Times, which just runs a hit piece on Susan Rice based on the Politico story, and not even Mondo Weiss, reports a single fact that makes the partisanship of Dennis Ross clear:

    Dennis Ross is a co-founder of AIPACS spin-off WINEP and is currently listed with WINEP as “the William Davidson Distinguished Fellow and counselor at The Washington Institute.”

  13. James Canning
    James Canning on October 10, 2015, 6:02 pm

    If Dennis Ross actually believes Obama has been too hard on Israel, he is a fool.

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