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With US reportedly poised to abstain on U.N. resolution slamming Israel, Egyptians withdraw it under pressure

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High stakes diplomacy. This morning, under pressure from Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu, the Egyptian government put off a vote in the United Nations Security Council on a draft anti-settlement resolution scheduled for today at 3 o’clock.

There was speculation that the United States was planning not to veto that resolution, a historic step.

Egypt circulated a draft of the resolution last night. Reuters reported:

The resolution would demand Israel “immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem”.

Some outlets reported that the U.S. planned not to veto the resolution. Ayman Mohyeldin:

Several sources to : Obama Admin was going to ABSTAIN from UN vote condemning Israel before Egypt delayed the vote

Jewish Insider reported that Kerry had told a Palestinian delegation visiting this month that the U.S. would not veto a resolution against the settlements.

These reports gave the Israelis a great deal of consternation. The Israeli ambassador to the U.N. applied pressure today:

We expect our greatest ally not to allow this one-sided and anti-Israel resolution to be adopted by the Council.

And in the middle-of-the-night last night (3:28 in Jerusalem) Benjamin Netanyahu tweeted the same urgent call on the U.S.

Echoing the PM, this morning Donald Trump posted a statement on Facebook urging the US government to veto the resolution as an “imposition of terms” on Israel:

The resolution being considered at the United Nations Security Council regarding Israel should be vetoed…

This puts Israel in a very poor negotiating position and is extremely unfair to all Israelis.

Secretary of State John Kerry was due to give a speech on the Middle East this morning, but postponed it, evidently because the vote has been postponed.

Israeli journalist Yossi Melman tweeted that Israel offered intelligence information on terror groups in Egypt in exchange for the withdrawal.

Israeli officials told Haaretz that the U.S. had not decided how it was going to vote on the resolution; and feared that Kerry was about to announce a major policy shift.

The Obama administration is evidently writhing in its last weeks. Two days ago, the State Department characterized the settlements as “illegal,” which is something of a departure. It was a response to statements made by Trump’s choice for UN ambassador, settler champion David Friedman.

Abstaining from the resolution would reverse one of President Obama’s greatest disgraces in the eyes of progressives and European peace processors: when he vetoed a resolution condemning settlements in the Security Council in 2011. Just two years after he had told “the Muslim world” in Cairo that the settlements must end.

Reuters quotes the French as being open to the Egyptian resolution.

In Beirut, French Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault told reporters that Paris was looking at the text of the resolution with great interest.

“The continuation of settlements is completely weakening the situation on the ground and creating a lot of tension,” he said. “It is taking away the prospect of a two-state solution. So this could reaffirm our disagreement with this policy.”

Thanks to Adam Horowitz and Dorgham Abusalim.

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  1. AddictionMyth
    December 22, 2016, 1:00 pm

    Great stuff. But how will Nikki Haley vote? I honestly don’t know – I suspect she pledged fealty to Trump (she instituted anti-BDS legislation in NC) but on the other hand she’s a decent gal so she may have second thoughts. This is getting very interesting! Don’t censor me Mondoweiss!

    • kalithea
      December 22, 2016, 3:52 pm

      This is why this resolution must get to the SC BEFORE Trumptwat assumes the Presidency.

  2. Ossinev
    December 22, 2016, 1:15 pm

    This is a no brainer IMHO. The Israeli Zionists in power led by the do whatever / say whatever to stay in power Yahoo are locked into a right wing cul de sac after embracing the Racist Settler agenda so they have to be seen to be aggressively opposing the UN Security Council vote and doing whatever is necessary to keep the US on board. All the while pretending to themselves that the status quo ” only through direct negotiations ” farce will just carry on indefinitely particularly when Trump takes the stage. All self delusion and all leading ( with the speed gathering ) to a pro tem one Apartheid state and then reality may finally dawn. The second passports will be retrieved from the sock drawer and the reverse Aliyah shuffle will begin in earnest.

    • Sibiriak
      December 22, 2016, 10:59 pm

      Ossinev: All self delusion and all leading ( with the speed gathering ) to a pro tem one Apartheid state and then reality may finally dawn.


      And if reality does finally dawn, then what?

      American “liberal Zionists” dedicate themselves to turning Israel around and getting it back on a “liberal Zionist” path. Tens of millions of other American zionists will support the partial annexation of the WB. Progressives will demand BDS. Trump, of course, will not pressure Israel one iota, so that will be a long-term project.

      “The West” will continue to support Israel as a “strategic ally” just as it continues to support states like Saudi Arabia–a state whose anti-democratic, dictatorial, theocratic nature is fully recognized.


      a pro tem one Apartheid state

      Most states and most of the global public do NOT view Hamas-run Gaza and Likud-run Israel as a single state. Nor is there any evidence of global support for forcing them to be single state, even if that were possible, which is isn’t.

      You have a lot of persuading to do.

  3. Maghlawatan
    December 22, 2016, 2:25 pm

    Deferred until when? The Dems might shaft Israel. Trump won’t.

    • kalithea
      December 22, 2016, 3:58 pm

      Deferred until Egypt and other Arab states are sure it won’t be knocked down by the U.S. There will be ONLY one opportunity before Trump takes office to get this done.

      Obama better take time of from golf in Hawaii to ensure this gets done, or ZERO will be affixed to his legacy forever.

      I suggest everyone email the WH and State Department to pave the way immediately for this Resolution.

  4. Maghlawatan
    December 22, 2016, 2:29 pm

    This is linked to Lapid and Anthony Lowenstein. In Hebrew it all makes sense. Israel wants peace. It’s much harder to explain IRL. The cognitive dissonance is overwhelming. Lowenstein may not even speak Hebrew.

  5. gingershot
    December 22, 2016, 3:14 pm


    ‘Obama Admin was going to ABSTAIN from UN vote condemning Israel before Egypt delayed the vote’

    Oh yeah, the Kahanist Israeli/Kahanist Israeli Lobby Tag Team is GOING DOWN –

    3 Existential Events (seen as such by Israel itself) for the collapse of Israel Apartheid – The Iran Nuclear Deal (CHECK), UN Sec Co Res against Israel (IN THE MAIL!) and the successfully advancing ICC cases(CHECK).

    The time is RIPE RIPE RIPE for the UN Sec Co Res!

    2 of these Existential Events by themselves are ‘existential’- the ICC and the fresh UN Sec Co Resolution against Israel.

    Alan Dershowitz finally lost his ‘case for Israel’ and kissed the Apartheid goodbye just a week ago, due to the UN Sec Co Res and the ICC being triggered by the Palestine Annexation Law

    We’ll be hitting the 3/3 Existential Events for the dismantling of the Apartheid – it’s the PERFECT TSUNAMI

    Times have radically changed but Netanyahu and Danon still think they are the INVISIBLE MEN! – that the Palestine Annexation Law and all the partying and gamefixing with Trump was INVISIBLE to Obama and everyone else. HO HO HO, Merry Christmas, Bibi, Santa Claus has got something in his stocking for you alright!

    Bibi Bennett and all the Settlers have been singing and dancing about the Settlement building parties they’re going to have, taking the Golan, the Palestine Annexation Law, and how much they LOVE Settling Palestine all week. They’ve been saying the FIX IS IN with President Trump …… er……whoops – well, yes, there is that little problem that the REAL American president was WHITE HOT even before Bibi started making side deals with Trump before Obama is even out of office, essentially bypassing the last couple months of his Presidency.

    Tsk tsk, Donald. You just removed any qualms Obama every might have had about SLAMDUNKING you too, and since you’re BEGGING FOR IT – can you feel it coming, baby, I sure can!

    Trump’s presidency just got flattened before it even started.

    On Day 1 of his administration he is going to look at an Apartheid in a state of dissolution and an Israeli Lobby/Jewish Lobby/Neocons in CHAOS. There IS no Israel Lobby of 1P1V1S, Mr Trump

    Obama is going to tear Netanyahu AND TRUMP a new one – and it’s on it’s way

    Now for the Existential Crises for Wolf Blitzer, Andrea Mitchell, Chris Matthews, Dan Abrams, Joe Scarborough, Chuck Todd and the REST of our enablers of the Apartheid and the Lobby – I haven’t seen any reporting yet but the Ameican Media has done a VAST DISSERVICE to the American public for decades now – they have been IN ON THE LIE and IN ON THE FIX – they OWE IT TO US to start making up for it and actually start reporting on Israel and the Israel Lobby extensively now – starting with these UN Sec Co Res votes and manuevers – including the unseemliness of Donald weighing in AGAINST HIS SITTING PRESIDENT

    Obama is a Transformational American president regarding Jewish power in America – it is time to no longer defer to Jewish power when reporting news, and to look at it critically rather than pretend it doesn’t exist

    The Big Lie is going to be torn to shreds over this – everybody can make it happen, too. Go for it! This UN Sec Co Resolution and Bibi and Trump’s involvement in it is going to break thru … question authority and question the heck out of Jewish power in America and Israel

    No more Kahanist Clean Break-wars and no more being forbidden and tabooed from even talking about it from the Powers that Are, soon to be the Powers that Were

    All we got to fear is fear itself and OBAMA ain’t afraid anymore. Nobody should ever be afraid of these guys again.

  6. HarryLaw
    December 22, 2016, 3:15 pm

    I think this little quip via Christine C Holmer is brilliant.. “Julian [Assange] posted Clinton Podesta truth’s and fucked Hillary in a non consensual way and politically unrecoverable way. That is nothing but good”. Those other emails revealed regime change machinations in Syria in 2011 and before..
    “Ambassador Ford talked himself blue in the face reassuring us that he was only supporting moderates in Syria. As evidence mounted that the recipients of the largesse doled out by Washington was going to jihadist groups, Ford finally admitted early last year that most of the moderates he backed were fighting alongside ISIS and al-Qaeda. Witness this incredible Twitter exchange with then-ex Ambassador Ford:”

    • HarryLaw
      December 22, 2016, 5:20 pm

      Sorry, This comment should have gone into the Wikileaks James North and Phil Weiss article.

  7. hophmi
    December 22, 2016, 4:28 pm

    Meanwhile, a genocide is occurring in Syria, but you know, passing another resolution condemning Israeli settlements is clearly more important . . .

    • eljay
      December 22, 2016, 5:39 pm

      || hophmi: Meanwhile, a genocide is occurring in Syria, but you know, passing another resolution condemning Israeli settlements is clearly more important . . . ||

      Another resolution condemning past and on-going “Jewish State” colonialism is another opportunity for Zionists to tell the U.N. to go f*ck itself. It’s odd that you would want to deny deny Zionists that particular satisfaction.

    • Mooser
      December 22, 2016, 8:13 pm

      “Meanwhile, a genocide is occurring in Syria, but you know, passing another resolution condemning Israeli settlements is clearly more important . . .”

      International law says that only the worst crisis occurring should get any attention, and all other injustice or genocide gets a pass.

      • James North
        James North
        December 22, 2016, 8:21 pm

        Don’t Torah, Quran and Bible all say the same thing?

      • hophmi
        December 23, 2016, 8:49 am

        More like, no issue should get attention except Israel.

      • eljay
        December 23, 2016, 9:32 am

        || hophmi: More like, no issue should get attention except Israel. ||

        Aggressor-victimhood is thankless work. :-(

      • Talkback
        December 23, 2016, 9:40 am

        hophmi: “More like, no issue should get attention except Israel.”

        What a ridiculous attempt to distract from your ‘Any issue should get attention, but not Israel’.

      • Mooser
        December 23, 2016, 12:32 pm

        “More like, no issue should get attention except Israel.”

        Oh no, “Hophmi” has forgotten how to work his browser again.

    • echinococcus
      December 23, 2016, 2:54 am


      In Syria, it’s not a genocide but a war of aggression, in which the Zionist stooges wanted to start a genocide of Syrian Christians. Luckily the Syrian government, the Russians and the Hizb-ullah managed to stop your buddies.
      Also, what the f%$#@ but a genocide has been going on in Palestine for all of 70 years? I can’t hear you!

    • talknic
      December 23, 2016, 3:53 am

      LOL Nothing funnier than a propagandist for the Zionist enterprise

      @ hophmi December 22, 2016, 4:28 pm

      “Meanwhile, a genocide is occurring in Syria, but you know, passing another resolution condemning Israeli settlements is clearly more important . . .

      The UNSC already voted on a Syrian resolutions

    • Talkback
      December 23, 2016, 5:57 am

      hophmi: “Meanwhile, a genocide is occurring in Syria, but you know, passing another resolution condemning Israeli settlements is clearly more important . . .”

      Translation: I don’t want any war crime or crime against humanity to be condemned, if commited by Jews.

    • Egbert
      December 23, 2016, 6:44 am

      “Meanwhile, a genocide is occurring in Syria, ”

      A genocide of who by whom?

      Ordinary citizens of Syria by US/Israel funded and supported takfiris.

    • CigarGod
      December 23, 2016, 10:14 am

      Geez, Hophmi, why are you holding back? Why not use some real numbers in your attempt to pull the focus off your mascot?
      Here you go: “Meanwhile…500,000 American’s die of tobacco related illnesses every year.”

  8. kalithea
    December 22, 2016, 4:30 pm

    I can’t stand al-Sissi! He better move this resolution forward and quit stalling for Zionist bribery that will only get him deeper into a trap and hole he’ll never get out of. He should understand that if he doesn’t get this Resolution done quick; Zionists are going to dump Gaza on Egypt with Trump’s blessing and he’s going to have an even bigger problem on his hands when that happens, including the fact that Al-Aqsa will be stuck in the middle of projected hostile Zionist territory with hundreds of thousands of rabid settlers screaming for it to be torn down to rebuild their Temple.

    This is definitely not the time to capitulate to any kind of threats or bribery Zionists are pressuring sissy with.

    Obama is off on vacation while his entire legacy is crumbling in the background. This is something he can do to put the brakes on Trump-crazy train. He better call up his Saudi monarch friend and get this done, vacation or no vacation.

    Apparently the Obama administration was going to veto or abstain and the effing Arab League has to think about this???

    What don’t they understand? Either they get this done or Jerusalem is Zionist Settler Territory and Gaza becomes part of Egypt. Those Saudi Monarchs must be, as many are right to suspect; paid Zionist stooges for sitting on this.

    • HarryLaw
      December 23, 2016, 5:26 am

      kalithea.. “and the effing Arab League has to think about this???” Unfortunately the Arab league is the joke of the century, they couldn’t agree on what color curtains to hang at their HQ. Most members are either bought and paid for by the strong arm tactics of the US, combined with the financial bribery of Saudi Arabia. I would go as far as to say the Saudis are in bed with the Israelis, both on the basis of their fear of Iran and the growing ‘arc of resistance’ Iran, Syria, Lebanon [Hezbollah] Iraq, Yemen,and possibly Egypt and Libya, they think their collective security is enhanced with an alliance against Iran. The survival of the Saudi family dynasty is more important to them than the Palestinians. Salman Al-Ansari President of the Saudi American Public Affairs committee in Washington said..”Israel, he noted, was “one of the most sophisticated and technologically advanced countries in the field of mining,” as well as “a world leader in the water engineering industry” — both matters of significant interest to the developing Arab Kingdom.
      Al-Ansari stressed that the two nations share security concerns, with both “facing constant threats from extremist groups that are directly supported by the totalitarian government of Iran.”
      Israel and Saudi Arabia, he argued, could serve as “the new twin pillars of regional stability,” Time is running out for the Saudis as it is for US hegemony in the region. Only when it does will Israel be forced by those changing circumstances to come to a reasonable negotiated settlement. Failure to do so will mean the end of Israel.

      • HarryLaw
        December 23, 2016, 6:25 am

        Notice Al-Ansari said, “the totalitarian government of Iran.” that’s rich coming from the medieval 7th century head choppers and their Wahabbi form of Sharia law as practiced by Islamic State in Syria, you just could not make this stuff up.

      • CigarGod
        December 23, 2016, 10:17 am


  9. Citizen
    December 22, 2016, 4:33 pm

    The obvious outcome: The vote on the settlements will be postponed until Trump gets in office and the result will be the usual US veto. Obama will go play golf, say he tried to address the settlements issue.

  10. Bumblebye
    December 22, 2016, 4:36 pm

    The resolution supercedes 465 which demands the dismantling of ALL settlements, and only demands dismantling of post 2001 settlements. For that reason, Ali Abunimah is against it:

  11. December 22, 2016, 4:46 pm

    OR: Obama chickened out, and it was he who put pressure on Egypt — God knows at what expense — to pull the resolution.

    • kalithea
      December 22, 2016, 10:36 pm

      Wrong. As a matter of fact, Dershowitz was on CNN tonight stating that the Resolution originated with the Obama Administration and it is Obama and Kerry that tried to push it through. He said that they’re the ones most interested in seeing this Resolution pass; that even the Arab states are not that keen on it (only I really doubt this part). So Egypt is just the go-between that Israel has been pressuring with bribes and threats not take it to the U.N.S.C.

      • annie
        December 23, 2016, 7:42 am

        i saw that cnn clip kalithea — dersh thoroughly disgusting. and you’d think cnn would find it relevant to include a palestinian voice in the discussion — but no.

      • December 23, 2016, 10:25 am

        “As a matter of fact, Dershowitz was on CNN tonight…”

        You’re taking Alan Dershowitz’s word on it??

    • captADKer
      December 23, 2016, 9:39 am

      chickened out indeed.

      • just
        December 23, 2016, 11:43 am

        I really don’t know why this comment was published.

        It belongs in the trash or in annals of hasbarazio- rot.

      • annie
        December 23, 2016, 11:47 am

        i agree, thank you just. neutered it.

      • Mooser
        December 23, 2016, 12:38 pm

        .” trump applied the finale by his unfaltering strong masculinity” “captADKer”

        Wow, out of all the hopes we’ve seen poured into Trump’s empty suit, that’s gotta be the most desperate.

  12. Jasonius Maximus
    Jasonius Maximus
    December 22, 2016, 4:54 pm

    Sadly, Israel are running down the clock like champs. By hook or by crook they have managed to out maneuver nearly every single play by Obama’s administration, the ME Quartet, the Arab League and the Palestinians these last eight years. Hanukkah came early for Netanyahu when Trump won last month, and Obama thinking he had a Clinton term to buy the Whitehouse enough overtime for a slam dunk, has just been thrown a huge penalty! He’s going to have to make the play of his career if he has ANY hopes of making something stick before Trump enters the Middel East like a wrecking ball and kicks the Palestinian issue irreversiblly down the road.

    IMHO nothing short of official recognition of an independent Palestinian State based on 1948 borders will cut it if he truly wants to maintain any hope for a future Two State settlement.
    Trump is the first US president in Israel’s history crazy enough, stubborn enough and stupid enough to move the embassy to Jerusalem, recognize Israel sovereignty over the Golan Heights and barely batter an eyelid when (not if) Israel annexes the West Bank. Any one or combination of these effectively kills the Two State initiative once and for all.

    Tick, tock, tick, tock, Pres. Obama…

    • CigarGod
      December 23, 2016, 10:29 am

      I wish people would stop repeating the idea that 1948 borders (UN Partition) is some sort of lasting solution.
      Just look at a map.
      How could either country be secure with those borders?
      The plan was designed to fail.

      • eljay
        December 23, 2016, 11:24 am

        || CigarGod: I wish people would stop repeating the idea that 1948 borders (UN Partition) is some sort of lasting solution. … ||

        I don’t view Partition borders as a lasting solution – I view them as a starting point for negotiations.

      • Mooser
        December 23, 2016, 12:50 pm

        “I wish people would stop repeating the idea that 1948 borders (UN Partition) is some sort of lasting solution.”

        The Partition is not Israel’s ‘briar patch’. They are not going to return to the Partition and say ‘this is where we wanted to be all along’.

      • echinococcus
        December 23, 2016, 1:25 pm


        You keep talking about some “briar patch” but that’s totally irrelevant.
        The illegitimate partition is the birth of a totally illegitimate bastard state that doesn’t deserve to live according to any justice.
        Not a briar patch –a fake birth certificate that must be canceled pdq.

      • Mooser
        December 23, 2016, 3:06 pm

        “–a fake birth certificate that must be canceled pdq.”

        Yes, as I see it, that is exactly the attitude that Zionists take. They want very badly to be rid of it, and get a new one.

      • echinococcus
        December 23, 2016, 8:59 pm

        Mooser, stop looking at this as if it were some within-tribe matter. What counts is how it looks for 98% of Americans –we should also discount the useless liberals, too.
        Exposing the partition is key.

        The Z of course want more conquest but they only can do that with US complicity. Which depends on Joe Blow swallowing an initial “legitimacy”.

  13. oldgeezer
    December 22, 2016, 5:00 pm

    This resolution is doa. I hope I’m wrong.

    The criminal state of Israel whines about it being unfair and forcing them to accept a peace agreement. In the meantime the ongoing criminal gang sits patiently waiting to unilaterally and illegally annex West Bank territory.

    There is nothing wrong or unfair in such a resolution. The settlements have always been illegal even according to the GoI’s own legal advice.

    The US may have preferred the word illegitimate but that was in the hopes of having the Palestinians willingly give up their land rights in return for being permitted their basic human rights.

    It is not unfair to either Israel or it’s citizens that they be held accountable for their ongoing and accelerating crime spree.

    Anyone supporting Israel in any way including financially is equally involved in a criminal enterprise.

  14. David Doppler
    David Doppler
    December 22, 2016, 6:37 pm

    Do you think Trump and Obama discussed this in their initial meeting that went long?

    Hey, Donald, Netanyahu wants to play us off against each other during the transition, but maybe we should be doing the playing?

    I’m listening.

    I’m thinking of refusing to veto at the UN, you can condemn me all you want publicly, but then there’ll be something more he needs from you, i.e., undoing what will come of the UN vote.

    You know I like to make deals, and use whatever leverage I can get. That would add leverage. I was thinking of holding out the Jerusalem embassy, too, but, to get that, you got to do this.

    Exactly. To get the embassy, and to get the UN deal undone, well here’s what it will take. Carrot and stick.

    And if you don’t deliver, well I’ve got Yair Lapid’s number here, too. He’s totally using my wall idea. Great idea by the way, as political symbols go. I’ve got Herzog’s number, too. I like you, Bibi. I think we can do an historic deal together. Or NOT. Your choice.

    But you don’t want to face voters with me telling the world that you’re holding up the deal to move the US embassy.

    Oops, look at the time. Let’s keep talking.

    • oldgeezer
      December 22, 2016, 10:43 pm

      Not likely. Israel owns the US. They know it. Their leaders have said. The US has kissed ass and begged for more for at least 35 years. Not a backbone in sight.

      • CigarGod
        December 23, 2016, 10:32 am

        Our backbone is occupied.

  15. annie
    December 22, 2016, 9:22 pm

    hot update!

    Four U.N. council members issue Egypt ultimatum on settlements

    UNITED NATIONS, Dec 22 (Reuters) – New Zealand, Venezuela, Malaysia and Senegal told Egypt on Thursday that if it did not clarify by midnight whether it planned to call a vote on a draft U.N. Security Council resolution demanding an end to Israeli settlements, then they reserved the right to move ahead with the text, diplomats said.

    “In the event that Egypt decides that it cannot proceed to call for vote on 23 December or does not provide a response by the deadline, those delegations reserve the right to table the draft … and proceed to put it to vote ASAP,” the four council members said in a note to Egypt, seen by Reuters.

    The Palestinians were also a party to the note, which said “there was a strong sense of disappointment” that the 15-member Security Council had not voted on the text as planned on Thursday. (Reporting by Michelle Nichols; Editing by Sandra Maler)

    • oldgeezer
      December 22, 2016, 10:40 pm


      That is a bright spot.

      Israel may be a rogue state. The US (UK?) may have soold their souls to the devil. Maybe not. Time will tell.

      It is heartening that their are still countries tjat have principles and will stand up for the oppressed Palestinians.

      Israel is engaged in war crimes, violations of International law, violations of international humanitarian lae.

      Israel is in violation of dozens of security council resolutions.

      It is time to say stop.

      It is time to say no more.

      It is not forcing a peace agreement on Israel or weakening it’s bargaining position on a peace agreement. That can still be negotiated with Israel having the upper hand.

      It is demanding the criminal spree and lack of humanity come to a halt.

      It is the only moral position. No moral position is possible if it ignores the basic human rights that are applicable to all people.

      Enough of the supremacist bs emanating from the thugs in illegally annexed Jerusalem. End the double standards. Treat Israel as we did Iraq under Saddam or Russia under Putin. Cease your activity or sanctions. The law is the law. You are criminals and your sensitivities be damned in the interests of equality. Want to be a beacon of light? Don’t make me laugh. Just act like one for a change.

      Oh… and please stop your terrorist idf from killing unarmed children for sport

  16. Blownaway
    December 22, 2016, 10:11 pm

    This is a demonstration of pure raw Israeli power. Amazing to witness Israel bringing sissi and trump to their knees in front of the donkey. Nothing can stop them. As a Palestinian I’m looking forward to the day when we’re part of that 1S1P1V

  17. Sibiriak
    December 22, 2016, 10:22 pm

    Ali Abunimah, who dreams of a single democratic Palestinian state, hopes the resolution FAILS.

    Why UN resolution on settlements would be bad for Palestinians


    […] this resolution, like its predecessors, takes no action. In a masterful example of empty diplomatic phrasing, the draft only commits the Security Council “to examine practical ways and means to secure the full implementation of its relevant resolutions.”

    This leisurely “examination” has been going on for half a century now while Israel continues to violently steal and colonize Palestinian land.

    Undermining Palestinian rights

    What is even more worrying is the rest of the resolution – read in whole it is a clear attempt to legislate into international law the so-called two-state solution.

    In September, I warned that a resolution of this kind would undermine, not support, Palestinian rights.

    * * *

    […]If Obama allows it to pass it will be the final act in his long record of undermining Palestinian rights.

  18. talknic
    December 23, 2016, 4:34 am

    Re – abstain / veto

    “With US reportedly poised to abstain on U.N. resolution slamming Israel … “
    “Some outlets reported that the U.S. planned not to veto the resolution … “

    This is either a Chapter VI or a Chapter VII resolution

    The US cannot veto a Chapter VI resolution reminding a state actor of its legal obligations by reaffirming and/or emphasizing existing, predetermined and binding International Law, the UN Charter and relevant Conventions. It can only abstain. If the US abstains and the remainder vote to adopt the resolution, the resolution will be adopted. Whereby abstinence is ineffectual

    Although Chapter VI resolutions are only reminders, pleas and recommendations, the Laws, UN Charter and relevant Conventions they reaffirm and emphasize are binding

    A veto applies to Chapter VII resolutions, where action is called for based on a state ignoring Chapter VI resolutions. Abstinence on a Chapter VII resolution is only effectual if enough States abstain (likewise with any resolution)

    There only needs be one veto vote in the UNSC. That’s why Israel and the Zionist Movement spend an in ordinate amount of time, energy and money maintaining that one precious vote by any means possible. All it’s eggs are in one basket.

    BTW The majority of UN resolutions against Israel are only reminders. Res 252 alone has at least EIGHT

    • Kay24
      December 23, 2016, 12:11 pm

      It seems Senegal, New Zealand, Malaysia, and Venezuela, are pushing for this resolution to go through the UN. Obama is getting a lot of flak for a stance no one really knows anything about so far.
      It shows just how vicious the zionists can be when things don’t go their way, and it also shows an arrogant Trump trying to act like a President before he has taken oath. There is still a President in the WH who must be shown respect for the rest of his days there. Obama has been marginalized by the orange jackass because the war criminal of Tel Aviv has decided to appeal to him to protect their land grabbing behinds. Any nation that steal lands, occupies, and kills civilians deserve to be strongly condemned.

  19. Maghlawatan
    December 23, 2016, 12:05 pm

    Venezuela, NZ, Sénégal and one other have retabled the vote to 6 EST. People are sick of Israeli intransigence.

  20. genesto
    December 23, 2016, 12:47 pm

    If Obama had any real cohones, he would threaten to hold back aid to Egypt if it refused to submit the resolution to the UN before the end of his tenure in January.

  21. genesto
    December 23, 2016, 12:58 pm

    ‘Security Council likely to vote on settlements Friday despite Egyptian reversal, – The Times of Israel’

    So, the US has another chance to do the (relatively) right thing today by at least not vetoing this resolution. Should be interesting!

  22. James Canning
    James Canning
    December 23, 2016, 1:04 pm

    Sadly, Obama in fact enabled further growth of the illegal Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank. And we know why he did so.

  23. Talkback
    December 23, 2016, 2:10 pm

    “The resolution would demand Israel “immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem”.”

    Its funny that the draft reaffirms resolution 465, but does not explicitely reaffirm:
    “6. Strongly deplores the continuation and persistence of Israel in pursuing those policies and practices and calls upon the Government and people of Israel to rescind those measures, to dismantle the existing settlements and in particular to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction and planning of settlements in the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem;

    7. Calls upon all States not to provide Israel with any assistance to be used specifically in connexion with settlements in the occupied territories;”

    What a laugh. It’s better, if there’s no resolution, because it wouldn’t enforce Israel to abide. It’s better to continue outside the UN and with BDS.

    • Talkback
      December 24, 2016, 12:44 pm

      OK. I take it back. The passing oft the resolution is as awesome as the ludicrous reaction of the Infantile Imbicles of Israel. LOL

  24. Ossinev
    December 23, 2016, 2:19 pm

    “You have a lot of persuading to do”

    I didn`t personally persuade South Africa but look what happened.

    • Sibiriak
      December 23, 2016, 5:13 pm


      Israel/Palestine is not South Africa.

      And besides, really look what happened there.

      • echinococcus
        December 23, 2016, 9:17 pm


        We hear that pointless Palestine is not South Africa slogan too many times. Irrelevant here.

        Besides, the main difficulty is not the fact that there is a lot of informing to be done –of course we all know that. The main hurdle is the body of useless, outwardly sympathetic liberals that stand in the way of talking to the American public, sometimes with devastatingly hostile action.

      • Talkback
        December 24, 2016, 12:45 pm

        Sibiriak:” Israel/Palestine is not South Africa. ”

        That’s true, it’s worse.

  25. lysias
    December 23, 2016, 2:50 pm

    The Hill: UN passes resolution calling for end to Israeli settlements:

    The U.N. Security Council on Friday passed a resolution demanding an end to Israeli settlement building in occupied territories.

    The U.S. had the ability to veto the resolution but abstained from doing so, despite pressure from President-elect Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    • talknic
      January 1, 2017, 7:24 pm

      UNSC Permanent Members cannot veto the UN Charter and/or International Law. Nor can they veto UNSC resolutions reaffirming, emphasizing or reiterating the UN Charter and/or International Law. Their only option is to abstain. I.e., have no effective say on the matter

      • Talkback
        January 2, 2017, 4:10 pm

        Talknic: “Nor can they veto UNSC resolutions reaffirming, emphasizing or reiterating the UN Charter and/or International Law.”

        But the resolution did more than that and therefore can be vetoed, because of the rest “calling upon … stressing … “, recommendations, etc.

      • Sibiriak
        January 3, 2017, 2:32 am

        talkback: But the resolution did more than that and therefore can be vetoed…

        Good point. I was thinking that myself. It would seem that practically any resolution would involve more than simply “reaffirming, emphasizing or reiterating the UN Charter and/or International Law “. It would have to also involve various factual assertions about the specific situation being addressed and/or certain interpretations of international law, and those factual assertions and legal interpretations would be subject to debate.

        Perhaps talknic can supply a scholarly source for his assertion.

      • Talkback
        January 3, 2017, 10:09 am

        In 2011 the US successfully vetoed a Security Council resolution which reaffirmed, reiterated, etc. international law.

      • talknic
        January 3, 2017, 10:14 am

        “Perhaps talknic can supply a scholarly source for his assertion”

        There are no instances where a Chapter VI resolution reaffirming, reiterating and/or emphasizing International Law and the UN Charter has been vetoed. It would be the equivalent of saying International Law and the UN Charter can be ignored

        Vetoes have been on what would have been binding resolutions and where a demand or a call for action is being made, usually after recalling Chapter VI resolutions on the matter that have been ignored.

        There is a UN veto “… over the adoption by the Security Council of any substantive and binding decisions pursuant to Article. This is the first of the Security Council’s vetoes. The others include a veto over the recommendation to the General Assembly of a person to be appointed Secretary-General of the U.N.; a veto over applications for membership of the U.N., and possibly, and perhaps crucially, a veto over any amendment to the Charter” (Butler, 2012: 29) (The selection of the UN Secretary General “is appointed in a two stage process. A candidate is first recommended by the Security Council, and then must be approved by the 193-member General Assembly…In every ballot [where more than one candidate is put forward], the 15 Security Council members [assess] each candidate by voting either “encourage,” “discourage” or “no opinion” (Hume, 2016).


        Article 27 of the UN Charter states that:

        1 Each member of the Security Council shall have one vote.

        2 Decisions of the Security Council on procedural matters shall be made by an affirmative vote of nine members.

        3 Decisions of the Security Council on all other matters shall be made by an affirmative vote of nine members including the concurring votes of the permanent members; provided that, in decisions under Chapter VI, and under paragraph 3 of Article 52, a party to a dispute shall abstain from voting.

      • talknic
        January 3, 2017, 11:10 am

        Oooops. I didn’t mean to include the second blockquote.

  26. dgfincham
    December 24, 2016, 5:25 am

    The resolution against the settlements has passed – like dozens before it. Nothing has changed, and nothing will change until there is a Chapter VII resolution to enforce international law.

  27. Ossinev
    December 24, 2016, 2:54 pm

    “And besides, really look what happened there”

    What aspect did I not really look at – was it the Afrikaners version of Israeli Zionist untermenschen getting full civil liberties as a result of BDS Mark 1 ?

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