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‘Auto-anti-Semitism!’ Naftali Bennett declares war on Jewish self-hatred in Israel

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Israeli Education Minister Naftali Bennett could be said to have made a genius triple breakthrough in the fields of psychology, psychiatry and sociology, coining a new term: “auto-anti-Semitism.”  

“Auto-anti-Semitism is a social-psychological phenomenon in which a Jew develops obsessive contempt and hostility towards Jewish tradition, customs, and observant Jews.”

He wrote that on Friday, as cited by the religious-nationalist settler-outlet Israel National News, in response to criticism from leftwing organizations that “Jewish content is permeating more and more into the education system”.

Actually, Bennett is simply calling secular Jews “self-haters.” But he found a new term to cloak this notion with.

What a novel term. Such invention can only come from the Jewish-home-grown genius of such ‘Jewish Home’ party politicians as Bennett. His party comrade, Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked is not too bad either, with her genocide advocacies, with the “little snakes” metaphor for Palestinian children. But you have to hand it to Bennnett – whether it’s comparing Palestinians to “shrapnel in the butt” or saying he “killed lots of Arabs and there’s no problem with that”, he really drives his point through.

And now he’s really developing his terminology, it’s becoming refined: “auto-anti-Semitism.”

The background is fears among secular parents in Israel that religious messages are being insidiously inserted into the school content. Haaretz has been following this development in the past years, and last month, Allison Kaplan-Sommer wrote a piece titled. “How Israeli Parents Are Fighting Jewish Missionizing in Secular Schools”.

Kaplan-Sommer noted that the cities of Tel Aviv and Givatayim have announced measures aimed at raising their level of vigilance against religious influences in the mainstream Jewish school system.

In a widely discussed television report last month, secular schools held end-of-year ceremonies in which children sang of building the Third Temple in Jerusalem, laying spray-painted golden “bricks” to do so – part of an Education Ministry directive to emphasize Jerusalem as the theme of such celebrations. Shocked parents circulated the videos on social media.

Kaplan-Sommer quoted Dr. Avner Inbar, co-chair of Molad – the Center for the Renewal of Israeli Democracy, putting the blame on Bennett’s party, Habayit Hayehudi (Jewish Home):

“There is an orchestrated and coordinated infiltration of dozens of private organizations, the vast majority of which is related to Habayit Hayehudi, united under a single umbrella organization named Zehut [‘Identity’], in which the notion of strengthening Jewish identity and a need to ‘cure’ what they see as the disintegration of Jewish identity among secular Jews is the crack through which they enter the Jewish education system”.

Zehut is said to bring hundreds of religious young women doing national service to secular schools and kindergartens. Dr. Inbar believes that is not necessarily to convince secular Israeli children to “convert” to Orthodox practice, but to impress upon them the centrality of religious Zionism and the “Greater Land of Israel,” so that they become adults who are sympathetic to the settlement agenda and view Orthodoxy as the legitimate expression of Judaism.

As I wrote in May, the Israeli state religious school curriculum has also been inserting a strong messianic message, for example in curriculums such as “Love of the Land and the Temple” (referring to the idea of the 3rd temple being built upon the ruins of Al-Aqsa mosque). The Messianic message is thus being extended outside those circles.

In addition, the exclusivist, anti-“miscegenation” message is increasing. At the end of 2015, Dorit Rabinyan’s novel Borderlife, about a romantic relationship between a Jew and a Palestinian, was banned from schools by Bennett’s Education Ministry for “threatening Jewish identity”, despite the fact that the official responsible for teaching of literature in secular state schools recommended the book for use in advanced literature classes, as did a professional committee of academics and educators. The further irony was that in the book, the relationship doesn’t even work out.

This is the new type of “Judaism” that Bennett wants to “educate” towards. It is orthodox, it is exclusivist, and it is highly nationalist. And now he is diagnosing a pathology in those who criticize this, saying that they suffer a social-psychological syndrome of “obsessive contempt and hostility towards Jewish tradition, customs, and observant Jews” – because they don’t willingly go along with it. He’s actually calling them ‘self-haters’ and ‘anti-Semites’.

Who knows, maybe after years under such “education”, those kids will also end up calling their parents “auto-anti-Semites” for being hesitant about building the third temple…

H/T Nurit Peled Elhanan for alerting me to Bennett’s recent words.

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  1. DaBakr on August 27, 2017, 3:07 pm

    The far left makes up terms just as absurd as anything on the right. Two peas in a pod.

    • Mooser on August 27, 2017, 3:28 pm

      “The far left makes up terms just as absurd as anything on the right”

      Yup. Here’s one for you: ‘Shinto Judaism’.

      • CigarGod on August 28, 2017, 9:48 am

        “Give me that old time far right military state religion.”
        Hey, has a catchy tune and you can dance to it.

      • DaBakr on August 28, 2017, 12:58 pm

        ‘whataboutism’: asinine rhetorical technique

        ‘micro-agression’ euphemism for.’ I am a pussy’

        ‘verbal violence’ oxymoronic

        ‘zionism= racism’ (to which the left explains, ” oh, not that kind of racism”

        Just a few worth mentioning. And I said the far right does much off the same

      • Mooser on August 28, 2017, 2:56 pm

        “dabakr”, I knew you would like “Shinto Judaism”.

      • DaBakr on August 29, 2017, 4:16 pm


        “Shinto…..”. Have no problem with this (benign) association

      • Mooser on August 29, 2017, 6:46 pm

        “Shinto…..”. Have no problem with this (benign) association”

        Torah! Torah! Torah!

    • Jonathan Ofir on August 28, 2017, 6:21 am

      Yes, there are many sides, many sides, DaBakr.

      • CigarGod on August 28, 2017, 9:50 am

        Yes, “some of them very fine pea’s.”

    • CigarGod on August 28, 2017, 9:59 am

      Dabakr, tell us about the peas on the “far” right. You left one out.
      IDF Medic, Sgt. Azaria

    • Misterioso on August 28, 2017, 3:34 pm


      Food for thought:

      “Why America’s anti- Semites can hate Jews but still claim to admire Israel”
      By Giles Fraser, The Guardian, August 17/17


      “If Israel’s PM has trouble denouncing US neo-Nazism, it’s possibly because the far right of both countries support the concept of a secure homeland based on race.”

      “A problem for the Israeli right is that there are quite a few, especially on the outer fringes of right wing politics in the US, who don’t much care for Jews, but purport to admire and support Israel because of its commitment to maintaining a particular racial majority within its borders.

      “Speaking on Israel’s Channel 2 News on Wednesday, the alt-right’s Richard Spencer, one of the leaders of the Charlottesville rally, gave an astonishing example of this ‘anti-Semites for Israel’ philosophy. ‘Jews are vastly over-represented in what you would call ‘the establishment’ and white people are being dispossessed from this country,’ he said of the US.
      “Yet he continued: ‘An Israeli citizen, someone who has a sense of nationhood and peoplehood, and the history and experience of the Jewish people, you should respect someone like me who has analogue feelings about whites. You could say I am a white Zionist – in the sense that I care about my people, I want us to have a secure homeland for us and ourselves. Just like you want a secure homeland in Israel.’”

      “This is staggering stuff. Richard Spencer is the man who chanted “Heil Trump” during a Washington rally. His followers responded with the Nazi salute. Praise from a man mired in the worst sort of anti-Semitism should prompt soul-searching on the right of Israel’s political establishment. These are not admirers that they should want.”

      • Emory Riddle on August 30, 2017, 9:24 am

        Spencer makes the clear and obvious point that he and his ilk want to build for “white people” what Zionism has given the Jews. Very powerful stuff…..he must be silenced. Hard to fling the racist label at him (he clearly is a racist) and make it stick when the establishment lives in a glass house.

  2. Maghlawatan on August 27, 2017, 3:34 pm

    Bennett is insane. Israel is insane. I crossed paths with some Isghaeli “Jews” today. Shemesh. Lo. The German r with their fake plastic biblical language. The whole thing is insane. The greed. The persecution. The victimisation of the innocent. The abandonment of the victims. The acceptance of German money. The treatment of the Palestinians  .
    Askenazi Jews are people of the schmaltz. No butter with meat and no olive oil in Poland. As if they could escape the trauma by moving to Shangri la. It is a fucking nightmare.

    • on August 28, 2017, 4:14 am

      The acceptance of German money.
      NO, it is not acceptance, it is extortion of German money from the German government & German companies. The irony: only a small % goes to those for whom the money is meant & is needed by, the Holocaust survivors. But those survivors cannot even make it in Israel on the pittance they are handed out by the state,

      Many survivors in poor health and living in impoverished conditions will not live to receive their restitution entitlements. Holocaust survivors have even left Israel to live out the rest of their days in Germany due to the better conditions they receive there, according to a documentary program broadcast in April 2017 by Israel’s Channel 2 television.

      • JWalters on August 29, 2017, 7:14 pm

        That sounds bizarre. But it makes perfect sense it Israel was actually set up as a scam by war profiteering bankers, using religious fanatics as pawns. e.g. “War Profiteers and the Roots of the War on Terror”.

    • Misterioso on August 28, 2017, 11:34 am

      “…Israel is insane.”


      Jews everywhere better wake up and face the horrible truth before it envelops them.

  3. Eva Smagacz on August 27, 2017, 3:45 pm


    I would like to comment, but don’t remember last time my comment about anti-semitism made it through the moderation.


  4. JLewisDickerson on August 27, 2017, 6:13 pm

    RE: Israeli Education Minister Naftali Bennett could be said to have made a genius triple breakthrough in the fields of psychology, psychiatry and sociology, coining a new term: “auto-anti-Semitism.” ~ Ofir

    SEE: Naftali Bennett: The David Duke of Israel | by Justin Raimondo | | December 28, 2012

    Naftali Bennett is the rising star of Israeli politics, and his party, Jewish Home, is projected to be the third largest in Israel: he is also an upfront racist who has made the presence of Africans in the country a major campaign issue, calling for their immediate expulsion. He’s said he would refuse orders to evacuate Jewish “settlers” from Palestinian lands, and he has a plan to annex most of the West Bank. “Forget whether it’s right or wrong,” he says. “We’re here to stay, now what can we do about it? To strive for perfection brings disaster again and again. It’s time for new thinking.”

    However, there is nothing new in this sort of thinking: ever since a right-wing nutjob assassinated Yitzhak Rabin and the “settler” movement began openly battling the IDF, the world has been aware of a dangerous and quite unpleasant streak of extremism taking root in the land of Israel. The Jewish Home party, and its charismatic leader, are but the latest incarnation of an increasingly militant religious fundamentalism with deep roots in the history of the Zionist idea. At the core of this ideology is the concept of “Greater Israel,” which includes the Palestinian lands known by observant Zionists as “Judea and Samaria.” The fundamentalist strain represented by Bennett derives the borders of this expanded Jewish state from the Old Testament, which promises all these lands to the Israelites unto eternity.

    As to how this radical expansion would alter the Jewish character of the Israeli state, that’s a question Bennett prefers not to answer: “What do we do in the long term? I don’t know.”

    But of course he does know: he just prefers not to say, out loud, that a future Greater Israel will expel all the “Israeli” Arabs, just like his coalition partners in the former Molodet party have long advocated. His Jewish Home party absorbed the Molodet faction of the extremist “National Union” – which openly advocated ethnic cleansing – at its founding in 2008, and his followers know just what he means.

    Bennett is, in short, an extremist on the order of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane, whose hatred of Arabs (and African refugees) is being cleverly marketed to a younger crowd, and whose foreign policy views make Netanyahu look like a left-winger. Bennett knows Netanyahu well: he served as Bibi’s chief of staff when the Likud leader was in opposition, and the two will no doubt be reunited after the upcoming elections in a new government, where Bennett will probably be in the cabinet as Housing Minister.

    Born in Haifa to American parents who emigrated from San Francisco after the Six Day War, Bennett founded a hi-tech company in New York, where he lived for four years, making millions and then taking off for Israel, where he reinvented himself as an ultra-nationalist political activist. After his stint with Netanyahu, he joined the settler movement – although he prefers to live in a wealthy suburb of Tel Aviv – as head of the Yesha Council, and later joined the National Religious Party after a bitter falling out with Netanyahu over the settlements. He managed to take over the NRP in a primary election, and now seeks to revamp this crucible of ultra-Orthodox obscurantism, rebranding it as “young” and “modern,” with a special outreach to American immigrants.

    Friends of Israel among American liberals aren’t fooled. As Jeffrey Goldberg put it:

    “The Jewish Home party advances an ideology that will bring about the destruction (the self-destruction) of Israel. The Jewish Home party seeks to erase the dividing line between Israel and the West Bank; it seeks to build more and more settlements; it seeks to absorb the West Bank’s Arabs into Israel as, at the most, second-class citizens. It seeks to empower Orthodox religious nationalism as the dominant ideology of the state. And its policies would turn Israel into a pariah state, and Israel will not survive for the long-term as a pariah state.”

    Sadly, it doesn’t look like Goldberg’s views have any influence in Israel . . .


    Saban Forum 2014 – A Conversation with Naftali Bennet

  5. rhkroell on August 27, 2017, 6:26 pm

    “The far left makes up terms just as absurd as anything on the right.”

    In a few isolated cases, perhaps. Give us some examples, please. I tend to believe that that particular kind of intellectual “folly” is pretty difficult to duplicate. To political reactionaries, by contrast, that type of lunacy seems to come natural: as in the alt-right, neo-Nazis, the K.K.K., or “instantaneous-antisemitism.” It’s not only natural. It is routine and time-honored among “blackshirts.” It seems to appeal to a particular kind of “primitive” mindset, I would guess.

    That’s one of the most appalling consequences of promoting concepts like “Muscular Judaism.” You don’t want to encourage guys who latch on to ideologies like white supremacy and begin worshipping at those kinds of altars (or in their temples and synagogues).

    Prudent people don’t nurture and or stimulate that kind of loony thinking. The very idea of associating antisemitism with automaticity is intellectually sloppy and irrational.

    “Two peas in a pod.”

    Here we go again: The “far left” is virtually indistinguishable from the “far right.” Your binary reductionism is ham-fisted and mushier than a bowl of porridge.

    • DaBakr on August 28, 2017, 1:04 pm

      I’ve heard comments from BLM that people of colour (whatever that means) cannot possibly be racist. And the comments I named are probably the mildest of what comes from the mouths of the fringe left. Just because the fringe right spouts their own made up rhetoric doesn’t excuse the indoctrinated here.

  6. lonely rico on August 27, 2017, 7:11 pm

    Naftali Bennett, corrected –

    “Auto-anti-Semitism is a social-psychological phenomenon in which a righteous Jew develops obsessive contempt and hostility towards
    cruel ugly racist Zionism, which hides behind
    Jewish tradition, customs, and observantJews”

    Bennett is a disgraceful racist.

  7. eljay on August 27, 2017, 7:11 pm

    Israeli Education Minister Naftali Bennett could be said to have made a genius triple breakthrough in the fields of psychology, psychiatry and sociology, coining a new term: “auto-anti-Semitism.”

    “Auto-anti-Semitism is a social-psychological phenomenon in which a Jew develops obsessive contempt and hostility towards Jewish tradition, customs, and observant Jews.”

    Bennett is a typical supremacist hypocrite:
    – People who stand up for justice, accountability and equality are never right.
    – Other brands of supremacism are never right.
    – His brand of supremacism is never wrong.

  8. Citizen on August 27, 2017, 11:30 pm
  9. Marnie on August 28, 2017, 2:09 am

    “Auto anti-semitism” sounds pretty dirty to me. Is there a special vibrator for that solitary business?

    • Mooser on August 28, 2017, 10:54 am

      “Auto anti-semitism”

      I wouldn’t even accuse an Opel of that.

  10. Marnie on August 28, 2017, 2:41 am

    “This is the new type of “Judaism” that Bennett wants to “educate” towards. It is orthodox, it is exclusivist, and it is highly nationalist. And now he is diagnosing a pathology in those who criticize this, saying that they suffer a social-psychological syndrome of “obsessive contempt and hostility towards Jewish tradition, customs, and observant Jews” – because they don’t willingly go along with it. He’s actually calling them ‘self-haters’ and ‘anti-Semites’.”

    The only possible outcome will be the destruction of everything these nazi zionists hold dear. No winners, only death and destruction. It appears that bennett and co at habayit yehudi are spending too much time auto-zionizing, which has, of course, made them all blind.

  11. a blah chick on August 28, 2017, 7:22 am

    And remember, Bennett’s the same person who claimed Palestinians were committing “self genocide” back in 2014. Man’s got a way with words.

  12. Maghlawatan on August 28, 2017, 9:36 am

    Someone told Raphael Honigman that if he wanted to study and understand the history of the Shoah he would be at career end.

    It has been mythologised. There is no historic traction or coherence    There is just Anne Frank. And Israeli flags in Auschwitz  . The veneration of crap.

    The Shoah was a system issue. So was the initial re-emergence of anti semitism in the 1880s.

    There were 2 major depressions over that time. 1873 to 1896. 1929 to 45. Both involved credit bubbles. The collapse of credit bubbles is the entry point to social insanity.
    Demagogues bewitch angry majority people and then betray them.
    Judaism is basically 2 tribes. Ultra well connected people at the top of the financial system and ordinary Schmucks.  The former group are sociopaths like all elite finance people. Nothing Jewish about it.
    The Schmucks are ordinary people with a special culture.

    When the system collapses the politics go through specific stages. There is betrayal. Then there is victimisation and the apportionment of guilt, sin and blame.  Groups are targeted. In the UK now it is Eastern Europeans. In Iraq it was Yazidis. In Germany 1930 it was Jews. People like Trump turn on Jews when politically expedient. Vote bank politics. Blame the Jews.

    This is all linked to minority politics. In the US black people are used to being shafted. Listen to rap.
    Jews forget how the system works. Black people can’t.   If a Jew makes it in Wall St it is a source of pride. It is also a source of danger when the system breaks down.

    People like Trump have no morals. They will abandon anyone for power.
    In the 19 30s the system collapsed via deflation.  Hitler was supported by the rich. Who love deflation.  He couldn’t blame them. They are mostly majority. He blamed the Jews. Tell people a lie long enough and they believe it. The Schmucks got allocated the losses 
    Mass murder ensued.

    Marek Edelmann understood this.
    Zionism says they will always hate us. This is wrong. Every so often hatred will flower after the collapse of a credit expansion system. Jews will be blamed because they are a minority.  And easy to turn on.

    The answer is not to move everyone to the levant and get them to speak Hebrew in a German accent. The answer is not to give them nukes. Or let them run apartheid. It doesn’t address the system issue  .

    The easiest way to sort out the problem would be to revise the kosher laws. Bring shellfish in from the cold. Ban trading in bonds. Otherwise expel the wall st sociopaths. 

    Judaism can be great but it needs to be rationalised. 
    Zionism is not the answer. Because the system did not change.


    • Mooser on August 28, 2017, 10:59 am

      “Bring shellfish in from the cold.”

      And when it reaches 145 degrees F. internally, it’s Kosher.

    • Citizen on August 28, 2017, 2:12 pm

      Submit that to Breibart News site, listing by name those who benefit from the hedge fund carried interest rate?

    • mcohen.. on August 29, 2017, 7:50 am

      you are mistaken

      zionism is the only answer to irrational acts like anti semitism and jew hatred.hitler and his supporters considered themselves invincible.murdering unarmed jews was an easy matter but that all changed on the russian front.i might not support israeli policies towards arabs in the west bank but without zionism jews would be facing constsnt attacks.
      the idea that left wing policies can somehow make the world a better place for all people falls short in times of economic collapse when the strong whether left or right dominates the weak..

      • eljay on August 29, 2017, 9:14 am

        || mcohen..: … zionism is the only answer to irrational acts like anti semitism and jew hatred. … ||

        It’s an unjust and immoral answer, but it’s not the only answer.

        A better solution to all acts of injustice and immorality is the universal and consistent application of justice, accountability and equality.

        Unfortunately, supremacists prefer to undermine international laws and human rights and the protections they are meant to afford all people.

      • Maghlawatan on August 29, 2017, 9:16 am

        Zionism is insane. It has holidays to remember what an ass hole nebuchadnezzar was while running a concentration camp in Gaza. FFS.

      • Brewer on August 29, 2017, 10:16 pm

        “zionism is the only answer to irrational acts like anti semitism and jew hatred.hitler and his supporters” -etc.
        So the answer to the National Socialists racial purity nonsense is Jewish Nationalism and…….racial purity. Something not quite right here. In the first place, if ethnic cleansing and massacre is an irrational act when performed by Germans, is it not similarly irrational when performed by Jews?
        Secondly, Zionism was not the only answer at the time. I have long been puzzled as to why the Jewish Autonomous Oblast option was ignored. A more temperate, larger and resource-rich Jewish State begging to be settled and with no pesky indigenes to be massacred and expelled. Perhaps mcohen can explain.
        Thirdly, Zionism first emerged in 1890s, before Hitler was born. He was just 24 and a pauper when Jabotinsky issued this:
        “All colonization, even the most restricted, must continue in defiance of the will of the native population. Therefore, it can continue and develop only under the shield of force which comprises an Iron Wall which the local population can never break through. This is our Arab policy.”
        It seems to me that Zionism, having been rejected by the Frankfurt conference of rabbis, 1845 and the Philadelphia conference of 1869, was not an answer to anything but a desire for colonial conquest by a small faction of militant adventurers backed by privileged and wealthy folk such as Lord Rothschild and Chaim Weizmann.
        There is also the 1933 Havara agreement between the National Socialists and Zionists to consider. Doesn’t fit the picture of Zionism as an answer to Nazism which is further colored by the offer of prominent Zionists to fight in WWII on the side of Germany.
        Sorry mcohen, I think you need to take that one back to your worry-room for a spell.

      • Talkback on August 30, 2017, 5:56 am

        mcohen: “zionism is the only answer to irrational acts like anti semitism and jew hatred.. i might not support israeli policies towards arabs in the west bank but without zionism jews would be facing constsnt attacks.”

        Yep, like they are outside of Israel. It is even worse than the Jewish attacks on Palestinians, right? But maybe, just maybe Zionism is an irrational answer that needs, sometimes fabricates or even creates Jew hatred.

    • RoHa on August 31, 2017, 8:20 pm

      “Bring shellfish in from the cold.”

      ‘O Oysters, come and walk with us!’
      The Walrus did beseech.
      A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,
      Along the briny beach:
      ‘We cannot do with more than four,
      To give a hand to each.’

      • Maghlawatan on September 2, 2017, 12:59 pm

        I love that poem

  13. Maghlawatan on August 28, 2017, 3:45 pm

    Bennett wants Israeli self love. Wankers.

    • m1945 on August 30, 2017, 1:31 pm


      Jews had been persecuted for centuries in majority-gentile countries. Even when not actively persecuting the Jews, the majority-gentile countries refused to give refuge to the Jews when they needed it. There would have been no Holocaust if majority-gentile countries would have allowed in Jewish refugees who were escaping from the Nazis. The idea of Zionism was that Jews would return to their homeland & have a majority-Jewish country because majority-gentile countries had failed to provide safety for the Jews.

      The problem remains. If Zionism is not the answer, what is?

      • Citizen on August 30, 2017, 2:57 pm

        “The problem remains. If Zionism is not the answer, what is?”

        Humanism, best supported by things like the US founding documents and amendments?

      • John O on August 30, 2017, 3:11 pm

        @ Jack Green

        Last time you posted this, I asked you what was your opinion of the killing of over 250 Jewish refugees from Nazism by Zionist terrorists when they blew up the SS Patria at Haifa in November 1940. You were silent then.

      • jon s on August 30, 2017, 4:23 pm

        John O ,
        The sinking of the Patria was the result of a tragic miscalculation:

      • amigo on August 30, 2017, 5:50 pm

        From your link Jon S

        “The Haganah claims to have miscalculated the effects of the explosion. The bomb blew the steel frame off one full side of the ship and the ship sank in less than 16 minutes, trapping hundreds in the hold.”

        Ever notice when a Jewish terrorist carries out an act of terror , it is either a tragic miscalculation or the perpetrator temporarily lost heir mind due to the stress of living under the threat of Palestinian violence.

        Some miscalculation.I am no explosives expert but blowing a hole in a ship some 487 feet long sufficient to sink it slowly (six in dia ought to do the trick)versus blowing the whole of side off the ship is one helluva miscalculation.

        In any event , why did they use explosives to disable it.

        Just another case of miscalculation like the USS Liberty.

        Zionists will try any lie to excuse their behaviour or make excuses for Jewish acts of terrorism.

      • John O on August 30, 2017, 5:54 pm

        @ jon s

        Oh, dear, silly me. A man places a bomb on a ship, but it’s a bit bigger than it should have been, and the refugees from Nazi-occupied Europe are – how tragic! – collateral damage. And there was I, thinking that a man who places a bomb on a ship full of refugees might actually be guilty of murder.

      • Brewer on August 30, 2017, 9:04 pm

        “Jews had been persecuted for centuries in majority-gentile countries. “
        Exactly which countries Jack?
        I think we can rule out England which had a popular Jewish Prime Minister during the mid/late 1800s and has had literally hundreds of Jewish MPs and Lords since the 1700s.
        Similarly Iraq whose Jewish “Father of Parliament”, Sir Sassoon Eskell presided in the early 1900s, Egypt where Maimonides was a Prince.
        The Golden Age of Jewry in Spain was a period of centuries under Muslim rule. When it ended with the Inquisition, the Ottomans welcomed Jews who enjoyed security and high office right up until WWII.
        Could it have been Tsarist Russia? Here the position is more complex. I suggest close reading of the link:
        A sample:
        “In sharp contrast, a new school of Russian Jewish history writing emerged in the 1970s and 1980s, first in the United States, then in Israel, and finally in post-Soviet Russia itself. This school views the Russian state’s treatment of Jews comparatively, as part of the overall nationalities policy of the empire, a policy always marked by contradiction and bureaucratic ineptitude. In this view, antisemitism was not the motivating force of the government’s treatment of Jews, which in general was consistent with, or in some cases milder than, its treatment of other groups. Jews were largely permitted to continue their traditional way of life and education of their young, as opposed to other minorities whose native languages and school systems were outlawed by the state. Perhaps most controversially, the new school of Russian Jewish historiography argues that pogroms against Jews were not orchestrated or even approved of by the state, but were rather spontaneous and unplanned outbreaks of urban violence caused by social and economic forces beyond the control of the Russian army or police.”
        “Napoleon Bonaparte of the First French Empire enacted laws that first emancipated Jews in France, establishing them as equal citizens to other Frenchmen. In addition, in countries that he conquered during the Napoleonic Wars, he emancipated the Jews and introduced other ideas of freedom from the French Revolution. For instance, he overrode old laws restricting Jews to reside in ghettos, as well as lifting laws that limited Jews’ rights to property, worship, and certain occupations.” – Wikipedia.

        These are just a few instances that argue against your assertion. We should also take into account the fact that in almost any period of History you care to name, prominent Jewish actors in commerce and politics are to be found. Likewise, state-sponsored persecutions of non-Jewish people can also be found – Puritans, Hugenots, Scots, Irish, Africans, Chinese, Hindus, Moslems and so on.

        Sometimes I am tempted to wonder if, embedded in Judaic culture is a set of unique principles, a way of thinking that few other cultures embrace. First is that grievance is transferable across generations. Your post seems to indicate that. We already know that Zionist actions are based on the principle that real estate, once possessed by Jews, can never be owned by anyone else – “Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And forever” – Begin. The “ownership” of ancient grievance by descendants fits this model.
        This is not a universal way of thinking, I venture to suggest it is unique to you and your fellows.
        Similarly with guilt and responsibility. It appears they are transferable not only across generations but also across cultures – hence the Palestinian people bear the cost despite having nothing to do with the Historic persecutions you reference. It seems all non-Jewish are responsible in some way for all Jewish suffering throughout all time. The experience of the ancient Canaanites rarely gets a mention however.

        I think the answer to your ultimate question lies in abandoning the essential racism that prevents full integration and cooperation with one’s fellow human beings, a racism that is not totally disconnected from the practice of excusing the violence of Zionism by virtue of belonging to a race that, along with the rest of humanity, has suffered in the past.

      • RoHa on August 31, 2017, 2:27 am

        You could at least correct the grammar when you repost.

        “The problem remains. If Zionism is not the answer, what is?”

        If the question is injustice to Jews, injustice by Jews to others is not the answer. Jews do not have greater rights than other people.

        Here’s a thought that might shock you.

        Perhaps there is no answer.

        Perhaps that there is no way that all Jews everywhere can be completely safe from persecution.

        That would put them in the same basket as all other people everywhere.

      • Mooser on August 31, 2017, 11:05 pm

        “The problem remains. If Zionism is not the answer, what is?”

        And what is the evidence that Judaism provides any kind of foundation for a state? Hey, it can provide a lot of things, but I don’t think that’s one of them.

        They always pose that “If not Zionism…” question like establishing a successful Jewish State was a done deal, something Jews know how to do. And had no possible downside.

      • Mooser on August 31, 2017, 11:09 pm

        “The experience of the ancient Canaanites rarely gets a mention however.”

        Well, if it’s any consolation, the Canaanite religion was very completely absorbed into what became Judaism. Mircea Eliade says so.

      • jon s on September 2, 2017, 3:32 am

        The Haganah in 1940 was an irregular militia, hardly a professional military force. Therefore an amateurish miscalculation of the explosive is entirely possible, even likely. Nobody thinks that there was any intention to kill the refugees on the Patria.

      • echinococcus on September 2, 2017, 12:22 pm

        The priceless John S, yet again:
        A powerful bomb against the hull of a choke-full passenger ship cannot intend to kill anyone. Not only that, “no one” would believe it.
        That’s what the US system of fully Zionist cradle-to-grave education produces.

      • amigo on September 2, 2017, 2:36 pm

        Jon S has just presented the fool proof defence for all Palestinian (alledged )terrorists.

        “Your honour, I am a member of an irregular militia, hardly a professional military force. Therefore an amateurish miscalculation of the explosive was entirely possible, even likely but I promise faithfully to avail myself of some professional training and this will never happen again.My apologies to those who were killed as a result of my lack of professional training. I really only meant to scare those people.

        Judge !!,

        Ok , son , I will forgive you this time but we will monitor your progress and in the event you fail to register and complete the necessary bomb assy course , this court will not be so understanding next time.

        Thanks Justice Jon.

      • Mooser on September 2, 2017, 3:12 pm

        Truly “priceless”. Me ken brechen! Is there a better emetic than “Jon s” taking on the mantle of objectivity?

        BTW, “Jon s” is an “Israeli history teacher” at a settlement.

      • Brewer on September 2, 2017, 6:41 pm

        Jon S
        “The Haganah in 1940 was an irregular militia, hardly a professional military force. Therefore an amateurish miscalculation of the explosive is entirely possible, even likely”

        If it were not so utterly stupid, this would get my vote for the most criminally insane excuse ever offered by a Zionist on this blog – and that is a large field. Get yourself into rehab urgently. Ziocaine taken in such quantity is brain-damaging and likely lethal.

        For your information, the Hagannah had been blowing things up for 20 years before this incident – even had their own hand-grenade factories.

      • Mooser on September 2, 2017, 7:46 pm

        “For your information, the Hagannah had been blowing things up for 20 years before this incident – even had their own hand-grenade factories.”

        “Jon s” should know this. After all, experience with Western arms and military techniques were the God-given advantages which allowed the Zionists to conquer Palestine.

      • Brewer on September 2, 2017, 11:03 pm

        I remember reading years ago that there had been some effort to lay the blame for the Patria on the Palestinians. Unfortunately I can’t trace the article but, given the track record, it is not unreasonable to speculate whether or not that was the original plan.

      • jon s on September 3, 2017, 12:56 am

        Too bad that you don’t see the difference between intentional and unintentional.
        Terrorists intentionally kill innocent civilians. In the case of the Patria the intention was to disable the ship, not harm the refugees on board.

      • echinococcus on September 3, 2017, 10:11 am

        John S yet again.

        intentional – non-intentional nonsense.
        – How do I know the intention? Have you the record of what went in the perp’s head?
        – No, I know because the perp told me so.

        Way to go. We know the intention because war criminals, criminals against peace, mass murderers, thieves and pirates told us so. Oh yeah.

      • Marnie on September 5, 2017, 12:09 am

        “Terrorists intentionally kill innocent civilians. In the case of the Patria the intention was to disable the ship, not harm the refugees on board.”

        Deeper and deeper you’re digging that hole Jon S. You are seriously arguing that the terrorist group, the haganah, blowing up the patria and killing jewish refugees was a ‘miscalculation’? the zionists have always relied on collateral damage, intentional or ‘miscalculated’ to enhance their victim status in the world. the zionist entity is a terrorist organization which you belong to, if not actively. You excuse everything they do, every damn thing and if not excusing, you minimize the hell out of it. They eat their young, you know that don’t you?

    • m1945 on August 30, 2017, 1:33 pm


      What should Israel do about Gaza?

      • Eva Smagacz on August 30, 2017, 5:44 pm

        “What should Israel do with Gaza? ”

        How about leting them export things and earn their keep?Remember that well before Hamas, Israel bankrupted company that took over famous Gaza greenhouses (purchased from settlers for hard cash) by preventing lorries with fresh fruit from leaving Gaza?27/30

      • John O on August 30, 2017, 5:54 pm

        How about leaving it alone?

      • Brewer on August 30, 2017, 9:48 pm

        Israel should allow Gazans the right to return to the homes and land they were driven from.

        “Sderot was settled by Jews in 1951. According to Walid Khalidi in All That Remains, it along with the settlement of Or ha-Ner, founded in 1957, were established on the village lands of Najd, which means “elevated plain” in Arabic.*

        Najd’s Palestinian villagers, approximately 620 in 1945, were expelled on 13 May 1948, before Israel was declared a state and before any Arab armies entered Palestine. According to UN Resolution 194 and also the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 13, Section 2, the villagers of Najd have a right to return home to their personal property and to their native village.

        Today, according to Khalidi, “some old trees grow” on the site of the village. It is “overgrown with cactuses and Christ’s thorn and sycamore trees and contans the crumbled walls of unidentified buildings….”

        There were 82 houses in Najd. Children went to school in Simsim, two kilometers away. According to Palestine Remembered the village has been completely “defaced.”….
        ……Najd is fourteen kilometers from Gaza. Palestinian Arabs own 12,669 dunums in Najd although Israel refuses to honor their rights to their personal property, and refuses them their inalienable right to return home. In 1945 Jews owned 495 dunums of land in Najd and public lands consisted of 412 dunums.”

      • Maghlawatan on September 2, 2017, 1:01 pm

        Israel should remember that whatever is done to Gaza will be kosher for Jews. There is no such thing as special in real life . Zionism is insane.

  14. Maghlawatan on August 28, 2017, 3:47 pm

    Israelis should love Israel given nobody else does.

  15. Sulphurdunn on August 29, 2017, 8:01 pm

    In the USofA we let the APA coin long phrases for esoteric personality disorders. Mr. Bennett must be a respected member of the Israeli psychiatric community, and the Pope must be a Protestant.

  16. gingershot on August 30, 2017, 3:06 pm

    Putin-chev’s Cobra –

    Unlike the daring Russian fighter pilot acrobatic maneuver but unusable combat technique, Putin has just done the most astonishing weaponized thing ever dreamt (at least since last summer) or I am a test monkey’s uncle.

    The Plan:
    This Grandmaster has successfully moved his pieces to trap and destroy the Israeli Lobby/Jewish Lobby in the US, by entrapping Jared and Trump in his Jewish Russian Oligarc honey-money sweetheart deals collusion traps, thereby opening up the Grandmaster’s windfall felony exposure of Jared, Trump, and Netanyahu in their Dec 20- 23 2016 collusion with General Sisi of Egypt to subvert and overthrow the eventually successful passage of the existential to the Kahanist Apartheid UN Sec Co Resolution 2334.

    Well, that and the money laundering and Buddy Boy’s collusion with Putin himself and his Oligarcs, and the Israeli Jews in the NY money laundering markets for Israelis and Russians

    Jews in Israel, Russian and the US looting and conspiring all together, kind of as transnationals.

    Putin sends in his Jewish Russian Oligarcs in order to trap and expose both his Russian Jews as well – heres the beauty – other Israeli Jews and US Jews intent on WWIII with Russia if necessary in the pursuit of W*r with Iran, the Clean Break 2.0 Plan, when they themselves get busted.

    WWIII averted – a miracle. Jewish power in the US and Israel is completely exposed and busted by the American people, as they went after Trump and Putin. Yep, Putin.

    CHECKMATE Jewish Power in US and Israel. Putin avoids the WWIII coming his way by the Lobby intent on Iran. The greatest strategic checkmate of all time?

    It’s one of the overarching strategic victories over the Israeli Lobby/Jewish Lobby in the US as well as Israel

    Putin-chev’s Chutzpah – the Checkmate of Netanyahu and the Israel Lobby and their drive to WWIII

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