Trending Topics:

Colorado congressman’s wife encourages messianic Jews to seize Muslim holy site in Jerusalem– ‘Say, It’s ours!’

on 51 Comments

On a tour of the Muslim holy site, the Haram-al-Sharif, in the Old City of Jerusalem yesterday, a Colorado congressman’s wife advised messianic Jews that “seizure” of the site might be the best option. “Why not tomorrow– say it’s ours!” she said to zealots on the site.

Jean Tipton was touring the site along with her husband Scott Tipton, a Republican representing western Colorado, and Rep. David McKinley of West Virginia and his wife Mary.

The Haram-al-Sharif or Noble Sanctuary is the third holiest site in Islam. It is governed by a Muslim waqf, backed by Jordan. The site in the occupied Old City of Jerusalem is also revered by Jews because it is the site of the first and second Jewish temples. Its western wall is the famous scene of Jewish prayer.

Jewish Temple Mount activists dream of asserting Israeli sovereignty over the mount, removing the Muslim structures, and replacing them with a Jewish temple, with millions of Jews attending sacrifices there.

During the hour-long tour, posted to Facebook by a Jewish activist, Jean Tipton egged on two of the messianic Jews.

“So you would not be opposed to seizure?” she said to Rabbi Chaim Richman, of the Temple Mount Institute.

“I can’t say that because I would be in trouble,” Richman responded.

Avi Abelow, a Temple Mount activist and New Yorker who moved to Jerusalem, jumped in. “I can say it, what was the question?”

“You would not be opposed to seizure?” Tipton repeated.

“What do you mean?”

“Taking it back…. Just saying, ‘No, it’s ours. Always was. And it is again!'” Tipton went on.

Abelow said Tipton was “correct,” and that Jewish sovereignty would be fairer to Muslim worshipers than Muslim control of the site is to Jews.

Tipton persisted: “So– why not tomorrow say that, ‘It’s ours.'”

Abelow said that such plans are opposed on “a geopolitical level” and by “the current Israeli government,” which fears the consequences of seizing sovereignty of the site.

Tipton continued, “So you’re feeling that it will happen in God’s time. As opposed to man’s time.”

“I’m a believer that God works with man’s assistance,” Abelow said. He said he and Rabbi Richman and others are seeking to “generate the awareness necessary to prepare the Jewish people to be ready to then declare sovereignty and be the active partners with God to bringing about a better situation for all of us. Does that make sense?”

Tipton said, “Totally.”

Abelow offered Islamophobic commentary to the congressmen and their wives as the tour proceeded. For instance, he said that Muslims don’t consider the Dome of the Rock holy because they pray to Al-Aqsa mosque with “their backsides” pointing at the Dome of the Rock. “They claim it’s holy.” And he said that Muslims desecrate the site.

The two congressmen were briefly stopped by police at the end of the 55-minute tour, because one of them had bent to pick up a fallen branch from a tree, and it is forbidden to remove things from the site.

The lawmakers also met with West Bank settler activist Oded Revivi. Rep. McKinley praised Revivi, “This by far, of all the times I’ve been to Israel, this was the best meeting we’ve had. Because I think your candor, and you came down to practical ideas. That’s what I’m looking for. Too many times we come, people talk at 30,000 feet. I want to deal with more reality, what we have to do.”

Philip Weiss

Philip Weiss is Founder and Co-Editor of

Other posts by .

Posted In:

51 Responses

  1. eljay on February 23, 2018, 1:48 pm

    Watch as an American idiot (apologies to Green Day) eggs on a supremacist, “Jewish State” idiot!

    • Misterioso on February 24, 2018, 10:00 am

      Being an “idiot” is a prerequisite for being a Zionist.

      • eljay on February 24, 2018, 6:24 pm

        || Misterioso: Being an “idiot” is a prerequisite for being a Zionist. ||

        Dunno, I think you can be smart and be a Zionist. IMO the primary prerequisite is hypocrisy. Every Zionist – smart or stupid – understands and accepts that Jews are entitled to do unto others acts of injustice and immorality they would not have others do unto them.

      • Misterioso on February 26, 2018, 6:53 pm


        If you can’t see through Zionism, especially its inevitable outcome, you’re an idiot.

      • eljay on February 27, 2018, 12:49 pm

        || Misterioso: @eljay

        If you can’t see through Zionism, especially its inevitable outcome, you’re an idiot. ||

        Point taken. Although with Zionism predicted to last a Thousand Years, the idiots may get the last laugh.

  2. pabelmont on February 23, 2018, 4:23 pm

    American Congresspersons and their spouses, beacons of knowledge, wisdom, morality, caution, evenhandedness, and the milk of human kindness. I feel so lucky living in a country so rich in such human treasures.

    • RoHa on February 23, 2018, 9:36 pm

      A Secretary General of NATO (I can’t recall which one, but probably Joseph Luns) urged the US to keep its Congressmen and Senators at home, on the grounds that they terrified Europeans far more than the Soviets did.

      His wise advice should be heeded.

  3. John Douglas on February 23, 2018, 6:31 pm

    Are those “defenders of the Temple Mount” really messianic Jews? When I was in the Holy Land travel business in a previous life, that group, which includes the “Jews for Jesus crowd, was despised more even than the “Arabs.”

    • MHughes976 on February 24, 2018, 11:56 am

      I understand that Jews with strong feelings about the transformations of the Messianic Age – ‘Jews who are messianic’ – believe, at least by a majority, that the reconstruction of the Temple should happen in the Messiah’s presence and that attempts to ‘force God’s hand’ are impious. That will be the time when ‘many nations are added to Yahweh’ and the Temple would be the necessary backdrop to their reception. ‘Messianic Jews’ in the sense of Jews who are self-consciously Jewish, biblically literalist but also Christian, do tend to suppprt Temple rebuilding and to support Zionism. As you say, they are not well regarded by mainstream Judaism. Most Christians would probably regard them as amiable eccentrics.

    • Mooser on February 24, 2018, 1:59 pm

      “Are those “defenders of the Temple Mount” really messianic Jews?”

      Yeah, palpable and ostensible. If there’s a kind of Jew which appeals to Christian Zionist fantasies, Israel will make sure they are there.

  4. annie on February 23, 2018, 6:51 pm

    omg, i just watched a portion of the video. it’s unreal. why are our politicians engaging in these sort of diplomacy adventures at holy sites on our dime? this is gruesome. plus, they are whispering during parts of it w/the guide explaining to her how they get around the rules so they can pray there. these are some of the most ideologically extremist religious jews ever so why are they being the guides to congresspeople and their wives?

    and then at the hill i read

    Thomas [McKinley spokesperson]said that McKinley’s action of picking up the branch was misread by authorities as a form of prayer, which is barred from the area.
    “It is ironic as the olive branch is a sign of peace, and those of a different faith than Islam are made to feel unwelcome at Temple Mount,” Thomas said. “The Temple Mount should be open to all to peaceably worship, free of limitations.”

    why is a congressperson or their spokesperson speaking in an official capacity about what should be going on at a holy site in another county? have they no idea how controversial this is? i am not religious but i was always taught to be respectful of holy sites. at a minimum they could have gossiped about it somewhere outside the compound privately. it’s not a public museum, it is a working mosque.

    • echinococcus on February 25, 2018, 4:08 am

      why are our politicians engaging in these sort of diplomacy adventures at holy sites on our dime?

      Because we vote them in. The correct question would be, why do we vote them in?

      • Keith on February 25, 2018, 3:11 pm

        ECHINOCOCCUS- “The correct question would be, why do we vote them in?”

        Indeed, this is the question which goes unanswered because it goes unasked. And Political Theory goes to great lengths to misrepresent the reality that the electorate and society is guided by what I refer to as the logic of irrationality. That is, ideology tends to define reality even when irrational so that behavior is governed by the logic of the ideology, not by rational thought. Furthermore, society has maintained a form of primitive tribal hierarchy such that the majority of followers exhibit loyalty to the tribe and the tribal leaders such that group solidarity easily overwhelms rational thought. It is seen as better to be a loyal member of a powerful group than to be correct as an individual outsider. That is why elections in a capitalist democracy are basically marketing campaigns to sell the corporate candidates to the electorate while getting them to think they have a voice and buy in to the system of elite control with elections.

      • echinococcus on February 25, 2018, 10:22 pm


        Thanks, I remember reading that one. Oll Korrekt.
        What –logically– follows is that one has to take it up not with the occasional obnoxious mor0n appointed by the Owners of the country but with any and all participants in the 2-party charade. Plus some.

  5. on February 23, 2018, 7:40 pm

    As a Canadian I am always amazed at just how tight the US is with Israel. Its nothing less than remarkable. Yet another article to confirm the love affair that is destroying so many lives.

    • lonely rico on February 24, 2018, 2:44 am

      > LHunter
      As a Canadian I am always amazed at just how tight the US is with Israel. Its nothing less than remarkable.

      Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper (2006-2015) came from the same messianic Christian Zionist swamp as these deplorable American congresspeople, proudly parading their ignorance and intolerance.
      Our current PM, J. “Selfie” Trudeau, is a self-declared lover of the Zionist state –
      “… the Liberal Party of Canada will have Israel’s back, not because it is in our political interest at home, but because it is the right thing to do … Canada must always remain a steadfast and true friend to Israel

      When faced with this extraordinary American stupidity, it is too easy for Canadians to forget our own corrupt complicity with, and foolish backing of the criminal Zionist State.

      • on February 24, 2018, 12:20 pm

        lonely rico- point taken. Harper was more pro israel than bibi. Trudeau is also a Zionist stooge.

        Not sure the interminglings between Canada and Israel are anywhere close to that of Israel and the US. Zionists know where the bread is buttered.

      • Kay24 on February 24, 2018, 7:23 pm

        This is so disappointing. I thought Justin Trudeau was better than that. He is no different than the despicable Congress people, who show unwavering love and support to the zionists, and ready to hand over more ammunition to the war criminals in Israel, whenever they decide to show their military might to unarmed civilians. That same, shameless devotion that shekels can buy.

  6. gamal on February 23, 2018, 7:53 pm

    “i am not religious but i was always taught to be respectful of holy site”

    as if “religious” could be anything else, conquerors, thieves and oppressors have no religion,

    once on my way to important meeting with my vajra master i passed a monk clearing a path of worms, man i turned back between us we cleared them all using our soft robes to lift them on to the grass in about an hour and a half, i missed my appointment so I was directed to a dark retreat for 14 weeks, total darkness very cold and you only eat once every 2 days as he said “It would be a shame if you thought that saving mother sentient worms would also save you, you were late” I was never granted another audience for the following 20 years,

    i never really get why people don’t want to play religion, it is so much fun.

  7. Kay24 on February 23, 2018, 7:57 pm

    The arrogance of the zionazis – “it is ours, build the illegal settlements, steal their water, steal their olive trees, or destroy the trees, demolish their homes, kill them including the children, and seize their Mosques”….Israelis wiping Palestinians off the face of this earth (and they accuse the Palestinians of that very same thing).

    This woman is a disgrace, she sounds like one of those illegal settlers, and it would be interesting to know if this is yet another junket paid for by Israel. Viciousness is part of their DNA, as we have seen many times.

  8. Scott on February 24, 2018, 1:53 am

    GOP evangelical? You should identify.

  9. shaun patrick on February 24, 2018, 8:21 am

    The similarities between the way the Nazis treated Jews,stole their property, treated them as sub human and justified their actions and Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is so similar that unless the international community is blind its impossible to miss.
    Israel’s creation of the Gaza concentration camp,it’s indiscriminate use of attack dogs,it’s justification for indiscriminate killings and even the blackmailing and torture of Palestinians justified by simply calling them terrorists. When history is written it will show how Israel studied and copied Nazi tactics because they work. The final similarity between the two is their ability to hate.

    • Misterioso on February 24, 2018, 10:06 am

      Feb. 22/18
      Must read: Exchange between anti-Zionist, Tony Greenstein, and Zionist, Johnathan Goldberg, Q.C.

      • Mooser on February 24, 2018, 3:11 pm

        “Misterioso”, this is indeed progress! Mondo’s own exponent of the etiology of Jewish anti-zionism, “Hophmi”, said that his findings also pointed to abuse which perverted the Jewish anti-zionist, but he thought the abuse was provided by Gentiles:

        “Self-hatred is a disease. It is a sad disease borne of many generations of persecution, but it is a disease. And _____ (insert name here) is afflicted with it, as many Jews have been in the past. And it is usually the self-haters who cause the worst damage to the Jewish community, precisely because of how small it is. “Hophmi”

        It’s the “many generations of persecution” according to the “Hoph”. Self-hatred, provoked by persecution.

        And now Jonathan Goldberg QC delves more deeply into the problem, claiming that it is the parents and family of the Jewish anti-Zionist who provide the “abuse” and self-hatred “often stems from a history of abuse, whether verbal, physical or worst of all sexual.”
        Not by anti-semites, no, by their own family.

        So we get to the very barrel-bottom of the argument. Jewish anti-Zionists don’t love their abusers the way they should. Ho-kay!

      • Mooser on February 24, 2018, 4:15 pm

        “Misterioso”, that is a must-read.
        I didn’t think anybody could top “Hophmi”, but Johnathan Goldberg QC does it.

      • on February 25, 2018, 1:05 am

        Wow. That was one crazy read. Tony – 1 / 0 – QC

    • MHughes976 on February 24, 2018, 11:32 am

      Did the Nazis accuse the Jews of terrorism?

      • on February 24, 2018, 12:27 pm

        Terrorizing Aryan genes with the threat of intermingling primitive Jewish genes perhaps.

      • Mooser on February 24, 2018, 1:41 pm

        “Did the Nazis accuse the Jews of terrorism?”

        Is that one of those questions which can be answered with a question about the defecatory habits of bears?

  10. Ronald Johnson on February 24, 2018, 9:19 am

    In the United States, we have the organization, Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America, proselytizing Fundamentalist Christian ministries about Israel’s role in the end days. Apparently, the notion that the all of the Jews will either follow Jesus or be destroyed, is a matter that can be deferred until the day before the end days.

  11. Misterioso on February 24, 2018, 9:51 am

    For the record regarding Jerusalem, etc.:

    As determined conclusively by recent in depth DNA analysis, today’s Palestinians and their ancestors have lived continuously between the River and the Sea for about 15,000 years.**

    The Jebusite/Canaanites were ancestors of today’s Palestinians and it was they who founded Jerusalem around 3000 BCE.

    It is estimated that the Hebrews did not invade until circa 1800 BCE and their resulting United Kingdom of Israel, which never controlled the coast from Jaffa to Gaza, lasted only about 75 years, less than a blip in the history of Canaan and Palestine.

    Originally known as Jebus, the first recorded reference to it as “Rushalimum” or “Urussalim,” site of the sacred Foundation Rock, appears in Egyptian Execration Texts of the nineteenth century BCE, nearly 800 years before it is alleged King David was born. Its name “seems to have incorporated the name of the Syrian god Shalem [the Canaanite God of Dusk], who was identified with the setting sun or the evening star…and] can probably be translated as ‘Shalem has founded’.” (Karen Armstrong, Jerusalem, One City, Three Faiths; Alfred A. Knopf, New York, 1996, pp.6-7)

    BTW, thus far, no archaeological evidence, or more importantly, writings of contemporaneous civilizations, have been found that prove Solomon or David actually existed. (Nor has any evidence been discovered to confirm that the Jewish exodus from Egypt ever occurred. )

    To quote renowned Jewish Israeli writer/columnist, Uri Avnery: “[David and Solomon’s] existence is disproved, inter alia, by their total absence from the voluminous correspondence of Egyptian rulers and spies in the Land of Canaan.” (“A Curious National Home,” by Uri Avnery, May 13/17 –

    Front. Genet., 21 June 2017 |

    “The Origins of Ashkenaz, Ashkenazic Jews, and Yiddish”

    “Recent genetic samples from bones found in Palestine dating to the Epipaleolithic (20000-10500 BCE) showed remarkable resemblance to modern day Palestinians.”

    “The non-Levantine origin of AJs [Ashkenazi Jews] is further supported by an ancient DNA analysis of six Natufians and a Levantine Neolithic (Lazaridis et al., 2016), some of the most likely Judaean progenitors (Finkelstein and Silberman, 2002; Frendo, 2004). In a principle component analysis (PCA), the ancient Levantines clustered predominantly with modern-day Palestinians and Bedouins and marginally overlapped with Arabian Jews, whereas AJs clustered away from Levantine individuals and adjacent to Neolithic Anatolians and Late Neolithic and Bronze Age Europeans.”

    “Overall, the combined results are in a strong agreement with the predictions of the Irano-Turko-Slavic hypothesis (Table 1) and rule out an ancient Levantine origin for AJs, which is predominant among modern-day Levantine populations (e.g., Bedouins and Palestinians). This is not surprising since Jews differed in cultural practices and norms (Sand, 2011) and tended to adopt local customs (Falk, 2006). Very little Palestinian Jewish culture survived outside of Palestine (Sand, 2009). For example, the folklore and folkways of the Jews in northern Europe is distinctly pre-Christian German (Patai, 1983) and Slavic in origin, which disappeared among the latter (Wexler, 1993, 2012).”

    • MHughes976 on February 24, 2018, 12:19 pm

      Well, there is the reference to the House of David in the Tel Dan stela, which may date from around 850 BCE. That is the majority interpretation.
      As to ‘the accuracy of the Bible’ there is current celebration of the finding of a bulla with impressed words taken by some to read ‘Isaiah the Prophet’ and dated to about 700 BCE. This reading is quite disputed, though.
      It’s really unlikely, I would say, that there was a Hebrew invasion as early as 1800 BCE. If there was it could scarcely be fitted into the Biblical account.

      • Misterioso on February 24, 2018, 12:45 pm


        Haste makes waste. Apologies.

        You are correct. It is generally believed that the Hebrew invasion occurred circa 1184 BCE.

        I confused 1184 BCE with when the Prophet Abraham, said to be the first Hebrew, is alleged to have arrived from Mesopotamia, i.e., circa 1800 BCE.

    • on February 24, 2018, 1:22 pm

      Always much more informed after reading your posts Misterioso. Thank you for that.

      Time to print some “kiss me I’m a Canaanite” t-shirts

  12. nrhunter on February 24, 2018, 9:54 am

    One cannot help but be both angry and disgusted at the ;’superior race’ attitude taken by Zionists of all stripes (Jewish, Christian, agnostic and atheist) who will stop at nothing to demonize and destroy the Palestinian peoples. As others have noted, this is nothing more than Nazism wearing a different garb.

    It is also astounding that the Zionists claim that the Temple Mount was the site of Herod’s temple and that the Western Wall is the remainder of the Temple. While I am not an archaeologist, a lot of (what looks like good archaeological research) suggests that the Wailing Wall is the remains of the large Roman Fortress Antonia. Wouldn’t it be ironic tragedy if the Zionist were to succeed in taking over the Temple Mount and build a 4th temple on the site of the Roman Fort which housed the >6000 soldiers who destroyed Herod’s Temple which was located at the site of the two previous temples – the City of David (currently an empty space just south of Temple Mount).

    Think of all those Christian and Jewish Zionists who pray fervently before the remains of a Roman fortress.

    • MHughes976 on February 24, 2018, 5:26 pm

      There’s an article in Ritmeyer’s Architectural Design blog dated November 17 1915 called ‘Not Wailing at the wrong wall’ with some quite useful comments. Maybe this was one that RoHa mentioned earlier. I think it shows us why the idea that the Temple was not on the ‘Temple Mount’ platform faces serious difficulties and is very much a minority view.

  13. Vera Gottlieb on February 24, 2018, 11:19 am

    The likes of this woman is what the world needs LESS of…not more.

  14. Mooser on February 24, 2018, 1:27 pm

    Gosh, and they told me that making Judaism portable was a big advance, along with getting rid of idols and fetish objects.

  15. Ossinev on February 24, 2018, 2:11 pm

    Ref Canada there are just under 400,000 Jews in its population of 36 Million . The US estimates are around 7 million Jews in a population of around 320 Million. It is self evident that there is a creepy Protocoleqsue background to all of this given the pro rata factors in the numbers. An estimated 35% of Americans are Evangelicals largely of the fruitcake Dispensationalist end of days variety which also explains to an extent the puppet status of the good old US with regards to Zioland. Canadians are generally more sane and liberal by nature in their poiltics and their religions. – a different breed altogether from their neighbours. As ever follow the money = bought and bent politicians,bought and bent media by guess which lobby.

    “”diplomacy adventures at holy sites on our dime?”

    Tipton and McKinley’s week-long visit to Israel was being hosted jointly hosted by Evangelical group Proclaiming Justice to the Nations and a pro-Israel group called Yes to a Strong Israel.
    Possibly not the US taxpayer dime but directly or indirectly the Zioland shekel + end of days dollars ?
    As for Proclaiming Justice to the Nations just listen to the crap being spewed by this archetypal Israeli Firster:
    You will notice that the movement is called Justice to the NationS but only one nation ( yes you have guessed it is mentioned in her monologue). And FFS somewhere along the Zioline she got to be appointed:
    “Special Envoy to the United Nations for Human Rights and Against Anti-Semitism” which “gives her a platform to make sure your support of Israel is heard”.

    Bless !

    BTW Aren`t Tiptons comments incitement ?

    • annie on February 24, 2018, 4:06 pm

      they are absolutely incitement Ossinev, something i stressed in my tweet the other day (in capital letters and a hashtag).

      re “Justice to the NationS ” link — crazy video.

      PJTN educates, advocates, and moves to activate Christians, Jews and all people of conscience in building a global community of action and prayer in support of Jews and Israel. We are engaged in winning the ideological, social, moral and spiritual battle for the mind of this generation.

      • gamal on February 24, 2018, 5:46 pm

        “a Colorado congressman’s wife advised messianic Jews that “seizure” of the site might be the best option. “Why not tomorrow– say it’s ours!” she said to zealots on the site.”

        “they are absolutely incitement Ossinev” Annie

        and did you know Jesus returned and of course he plays guitar, of course, and of course its slow and subtle and heals Jesus been practicing, Annie in all the holy places

    • Mooser on February 25, 2018, 2:29 pm

      “Ref Canada there are just under 400,000 Jews in its population of 36 Million “

      And there are between 500,000 and 1,000,000 moose in Canada. With up to 150,000 in Newfoundland in 2007 descended from just four that were introduced in the 1900s. Is it any wonder some interbreeding takes place?

      • RoHa on February 25, 2018, 5:38 pm

        “Is it any wonder some interbreeding takes place?”

        And the offspring have to face the old question: “Are you a man or a …..?”

      • Mooser on February 25, 2018, 7:09 pm

        “Are you a man or …..?”

        ‘Or is that a big Menorah growing out of your head?’ Yes, we are indeed wracked with doubts, on the horns of a dilemma.

      • RoHa on February 26, 2018, 1:57 am

        Being racked – as in “stretched on the rack” – with doubts can lead to wrack and ruin.

  16. James Canning on February 24, 2018, 3:59 pm

    Jean Tipton is an idiot. Full stop.

  17. Ronald Johnson on February 24, 2018, 7:35 pm

    My thanks to misterioso for retrieving some knowledge that is buried under hasbara. You won’t see a TV series or a movie about “The 13th Tribe”, of the book whose author, Arthur Koestler, was reviled for breaking the spell of Zionism:

    Sorting out what is believed to be True but is False – from what is not believed to be True but is True – is always challenged by the the preference of the “street” for gratifying fables, and the cynical profitability of creating fables of Divine privilege.

    • Mooser on February 24, 2018, 10:04 pm

      I don’t go in for the Khazar theory. I have discovered that my ancestors were Jews who crossed the land-bridge from Siberia to Alaska, because there were no tolls at the time, and lived with the Native Americans until they could move to the suburbs.

  18. Ossinev on February 25, 2018, 11:49 am

    “Jews who crossed the land-bridge from Siberia to Alaska, because there were no tolls at the time, and lived with the Native Americans until they could move to the suburbs”
    Ah so the sequence is nasty Romans 135 AD and all that – eventual exile to Alaska via Siberia where they didn`t kick out the natives to set up a faux state but lived happily with them but as they were still yearning continuously for the Promised Land headed for the suburbs of NY = Brooklyn before full circle back to eternal Zioland and all that without assimilation,interbreeding or supplementary convertees. Wow what an epic – you should bag the film rights.

    • Mooser on February 25, 2018, 1:54 pm

      “Wow what an epic – you should bag the film rights.”

      I’m already working on what will be the sequel to the prequel, the migration over the land-bridge. The title will be “Call it schlep

Leave a Reply