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Birthright walkout is met with vitriolic rage in Israel — ‘Radicals’ ‘You will get raped’

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The former congressman Brian Baird once said that when you criticize Israel even privately to Israeli officials, they flip out on you, even if you’re a congressman; and this is the most important takeaway of the wonderful Birthright walkout that happened yesterday and that is now all over the Jewish press. A group of five young American Jewish women on their free propaganda trip to Israel kept demanding information about the occupation, and at last left the trip to join a tour of occupied Hebron by the Israeli dissident group Breaking the Silence. And the Israelis went crazy.

The irrational belligerence of the Israeli response to this mild form of dissent by American Jewish women is staggering, and it’s on film.

When Bethany, a dissenter, announces the walkout on the bus, the Birthright tourguide berates her and the other walkers-out in a disgraceful manner, shouting at them that they are trying to “bash” Israel and did not come with open minds or clean hearts, they are tyrants who tried to impose an agenda, and his grandfather fought the Nazis, and no Palestinian is going to force him out of here. Later he warns the women to be mindful of their security, their lives could be at stake. When all these young women did, they say calmly, was to ask questions.

And an American member of the Birthright group, who describes himself as a “teacher,” taunts the women: “Just go. Go to Palestine. Because guess what’s going to happen. You will get killed. You will get raped.”

The Israeli newssite YNet is offering characterizations of the young Jews as the pawns of “radical” anti-Israel forces, and stating that the non-Zionist group IfNotNow, which encouraged the protest, is an “extreme left” organization. IfNotNow is surely leftleaning, but it does not oppose Zionism outright, and it works earnestly inside a framework of “Jewish values,” and Jewish religious practice.

The Birthright-deserters proceeded over the last week in a collegial, if adversarial manner. Notice Danielle Raskin’s characterization of their decision:

So much of what’s powerful about is the first hand experience. After the “Israel update” talk I realized that it’s not enough just to talk about the occupation, although that’s important, but to see it for ourselves. I just wish that birthright would include that.

The Birthright dissenters announced the walkout on the tour bus in an arresting video they posted on Facebook. Bethany takes the microphone to explain their decision to the rest of the group as the bus arrives at the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange.

There’s a group of us on this trip who have been asking questions and trying to engage. And we have not been able to do that, and as a result, the five of us will be leaving, as we get off the bus. We’ll be going on a trip with Breaking the Silence to learn about the occupation from the perspective of Palestinians and IDF soldiers.

Bethany makes a point of thanking Golan, the tour-leader, and saying that his comments about Shabbat earlier on the trip had resonated with “my Jewish values” and hope for change. “I’m really appreciative of that moment, Golan.”

But Golan breaks in on her statement to the others:

This is not fair to me and the rest of the group… This is going to the heads of Birthright Israel right now… You pulled a fast one. You are trying to impose your opinions on the entire bus, on the entire trip, and this is not acceptable. End of story. Period. You cannot be a tyrant on this bus, not when I’m here.

He continues as the group gets off the bus:

You came here with a clear agenda from the beginning. You did not come to learn about Israel. You came to learn about Palestine. You should have gone to Breaking the Silence from the beginning.

Take my picture and quote me. Anywhere you want. You think I’m afraid of some body? I live in Israel. This is my country. I’m a Jew and this is my country and I’m not leaving anywhere. No Palestinian is going to send me away from here. My grandfather fought the Nazis and after 2000 years of Jews waiting to come back home. This is exactly what it’s all about.

If you watch this tape, no one has threatened Golan in any manner. And he responds with this violent rage. This is the same Israel where 95 percent of Jews applaud the killings of nonviolent protesters at the Gaza fence, and Benjamin Netanyahu announces that flaming kites from Gaza will be answered with an “iron fist.”

Guide Golan attacks the dissenters:

You do not come with a clean slate. You don’t have a clean heart to Israel. You came to bash Israel. You came to bash Israel on purpose and in public and in front of all your friends.

[We came to learn, one says]

No you didn’t come to learn. Whoever comes to learn has to have an open mind. You don’t have an open mind. You have a clear agenda against Israel. You tried to impose your opinion for the last ten days and that’s not acceptable…

You try to provocate me to say seomething I don’t want to say… IfNotNow gave you an agenda…

A young man holding an American flag, evidently a participant on the trip, comes up to the group of dissenters and says that, “From a teacher’s perspective, you guys are the reason that the world doesn’t change, you know that?” He then berates them. “Guess what. Just go. Go to Palestine. Because guess what’s going to happen. You will get killed. You will get raped.”

An older woman also scolds the young women, saying “It’s wrong” for them to just walk off a trip after they came under Birthright’s auspices. Another young person, evidently a participant, browbeats the dissenters saying, What did you expect on this trip to Israel? This trip is about celebrating 2000 years of Jewish connection to this land.

Then a young Israeli member of Breaking the Silence comes up to the group and congratulates them on their decision. A calm moment at last.

Birthright is a program offering free trips to Israel for Jews under 26 who live in other countries. It is aimed at preserving American Jewish support for Israel and is heavily funded by rightwing Zionists, notably Sheldon Adelson and Michael Steinhardt, but also liberal Zionists too. In April, Birthright critics held a protest outside a dinner for the program in New York and Steinhardt famously gave the protesters the finger.

The walkout is further proof of what we have been advertising here for years, the coming divorce between American Jews and Israeli ones over the character of the Jewish state and its political scaffolding here in the States, the Israel lobby. Though from the looks of this confrontation, we’re moving past divorce to a war.

‘Birthright’ founder Michael Steinhardt giving anti-Birthright demonstrators the finger in New York, April 16, 2018. Posted by If Not Now on twitter.

The young women posted a statement on leaving the Birthright trip. On the Facebook tape, the women speak freely about their decision.

Bethany says, “I want to be part of a Jewish community that can wrestle with the reality of occupied territories…. It feels morally irresponsible to take part in an institution that’s not willing to deal with the reality of occupied territories.”

Danielle says they gave Birthright an opportunity over nine days to show the whole picture. The point of the trip is for Jews to fall in love with Israel. But “If you were dating someone, you would never show them just the good parts of yourself,” she says. You’d tell them the bad parts too.

A young woman identified as Sophie Lasoff by Ynet says on the tape that the dissenters had a “transformative experience” in Israel. But

“We… have been really disappointed on a number of occasions about the way that Birthright has completely erased the effects of the occupation or avoided our questions, or spun things in a way that we felt were extremely biased. we feel like this education has not been what we were looking for. We came all the way across the world in order to see what they keep telling us is our homeland. And to me, grappling with what a homeland means to me, means grappling with it in all of its complexity, and they haven’t allowed us to do that. And we can talk a lot more about the different ways that’s happened on this trip. And we’ve been documenting it.”

“It’s a big deal” for them to leave, she goes on. But that’s why the dissenters acted.

“The world should know. The American Jewish community and the youth– the young people of the American Jewish community should know that the birthright is not providing the kind of education that we really need in this time of complex and entrenched politics, and Birthright is telling a one sided story. And it’s not fair. And we deserve the truth.”

Near the end of the tape, Golan warns the women about their safety.

“Be careful… Our life is the most important asset we have. OK. The rest follows after that. So first of all beware where they take you. If you have security….”

In Ynet, Amit Deri, founder and CEO of Reservists on Duty, said in response:

“In recent months, we have been following with concern the attempt made by radical organizations in Israel and in the US to turn young Jews against Israel.”

Danielle Raskin, a Birthright walkout, has tweeted about the disssenting trip to Hebron, seeing the “complexitities.” I must say, it’s unfortunate that someone witnessing apartheid cannot say, This is apartheid; but these people are young, and they are moving.

Here are reports that Birthright is blocking people on twitter for asking questions about the occupation.

This drama has also been unfolding at JFK airport. A week ago, IfNotNow urged the Birthright travelers to get the whole truth, the sixth time IfNotNow has sent off Birthrighters in the last year. Steven Davidson reported in the Times of Israel:

Standing next to a handwritten poster on a folding chair that said “Birthrighters ask us about the Occupation! Travel Tips/ Info/ Snack,” IfNotNow members offered granola bars and information-packed folders with “facts and stats to think about” regarding Palestinians and the Israeli military occupation, links and materials for further reading.

That package included a letter from “Alyssa,” who had gone  on her Birthright trip in March, urging the participants to see both sides of the story.

I wish I had pushed back more on the half-answers. I wish I had asked about the Occupation. I wish I hadn’t felt guilty for asking questions because the trip was free. So I encourage you, ask all of your questions. Read this packet without guilt. Read other histories and narratives online. Talk to your new friends. Think critically and openly. Have fun, let it be complicated…

Please, cry at Yad Vashem, as I did. Cry at the cemetery, cry at the Western Wall, cry when you say goodbye to new friends. But if you can, go to the West Bank afterwards. Go to East Jerusalem. Cry when you see the separation wall. Cry at the statue of the key in Aida refugee camp. Cry that your Palestinian tour guide cannot walk on the same street as you in Hebron.

Two days ago IfNotNow launched a campaign against Birthright’s propaganda.

IfNotNow launches Campaign, pressuring to tell the truth about the Israeli Occupation to its 40,000 young Jewish participants this summer.

The settler group the Hebron Fund has also now angrily pushed back against the young people as friends of Jihadists. Rabbi Daniel Rosenstein:

I hesitate to give attention to misguided students who, had they decided to hear the narrative from their own people, could have had a chance at learning something; however, when they slander Israel and Hebron specifically, I have to say something. These students staged a mutiny on a (free) Birthright trip to Israel, choosing to believe the Jihadists and their apologetic supporters. Therefore, we commit here and now to increase our efforts to provide educational tours to young people in the upcoming year.

The intensity of this battle over profound philosophical differences will only heat up in months and years to come. Simply put, the two Jewish communities have incompatible views of the world. IfNotNow has commented on the action:

“Wow. These Birthright participants just walked off their trip and onto a Breaking the Silence tour to Hebron. They are refusing to continue to engage in a biased Israel education that omits and obscures the Occupation, and are going to see and wrestle with the truth themselves. This is an inspiring, courageous, and brave act of resistance to the Occupation. This is why IfNotNow launched its #NotJustAFreeTrip campaign this week, because we can no longer allow a free trip that hides the truth about the Occupation be synonymous with being a young Jewish person in America.”

 

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  1. US Citizen
    June 29, 2018, 2:02 pm

    It’s past time for progressives, from anywhere, to clearly and unequivocally decide and declare which side they are on. It’s time for professedly humanitarian, egalitarian, pro-human rights, anti-racist, and free-speech progressives to express their support of the Palestinian struggle—on social media, in real-life conversation, and on the street.

    My hat is off to these courageous folks, not just the former Birthrighters but to the Breaking the Silence folks as well. It take moral courage to stand up to these myopic Israeli idiots.

    Anyone who doubts that Israel oppresses the indigenous Arab population should spend “just a few hours in Hebron,” a Palestinian city (known in Arabic as al-Khalil) in the occupied West Bank.

    Videotapes recording illegal jewish settler squats throwing garbage on Hebron Palestinians does more to stereotype israel to the World than the claims of anti-Semites.

    In Hebron, illegal Israeli settlers live in the middle of the city. Palestinians must travel on separate roads, which are patrolled by Israeli soldiers. They often walk under enormous nets that look like cages, and settlers drop objects — and even urinate — on them from their windows above.

    In place of Jewish prophetic vision, Israel lives an Orwellian nightmare of double talk, racism, fifth-rate sociological jargon, aimed at proving its racial superiority to the indigenous people it aims to crush.

    • catalan
      June 29, 2018, 3:09 pm

      “It’s past time for progressives, from anywhere, to clearly and unequivocally decide and declare which side they are on”
      I agree. As a former illegal immigrant I support progressive plans to abolish ICE, open the Mexian border for Latin Americans, and allow illegals the right to work and stay here. That, combined with a federal job guarantee, free healthcare and free public college is a wonderful plan. I am a big fan of miss Cortez in New York.

  2. just
    June 29, 2018, 3:52 pm

    Thanks for this!!!

    Just think, these 5 will tell more folks and already social and print media have gone gaga with this! It’s going to spread, thankfully. Their actions (and the hideously honest mainstream Israeli Birthrighters’ response from “Golan” and the “teacher”) have done so much more than any MSM in the West have ever had the honesty to do. I could hear the gnashing of teeth when I first read about it yesterday. Anat Cohen is surely among those that lost some enamel…

    The ‘Birthright’ ziobubble of endless hasbara has been pierced with dignity and grace by these 5 women.

    (I was reminded of Max Blumenthal’s efforts 4 yrs ago with “BirthWrong”…

    “‘BirthWrong’ in the Cradle of Jewish Culture: Jews gather in southern Spain for tour that aims to repudiate Zionism …”

    http://mondoweiss.net/2015/05/birthwrong-southern-repudiate/)

    So, many thanks to Breaking the Silence, IfNotNow, Max B., MW, and these 5 women.

    • just
      June 29, 2018, 4:24 pm

      I think that it’s worth re- posting this bit from the Haaretz article that I read yesterday and posted elsewhere on MW today:

      “… Birthright mandates that all of its trips include meetings with Israeli soldiers. Haaretz also reported last year that Birthright is promoting a free stay for participants who extend their time in Israel beyond the 10 days offered if they choose to remain at a hostel in Jerusalem’s Old City run by an extremist rabbi aligned with radical factions of the settler movement who encourages those who stay with him to volunteer at illegal Israeli outposts in the West Bank. …”

      https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-birthright-participants-leave-trip-to-visit-west-bank-1.6221440?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

      It’s telling that the ‘free trip and stay’ is what some are so resentful of. I guess they’ll demand loyalty pledges from now on.

      Never mind the truth…

      • just
        June 29, 2018, 5:04 pm

        Compare and contrast:

        “… 40 Young Immigrants Arrive in Israel, Ready to Serve in the Army

        SOLDIERING ON: A group of 40 young immigrants from the United States landed in Israel on Wednesday, and all plan to volunteer in the Israeli military in the coming months. “I have lived my whole life in an area with a very small Jewish population. Growing up in the type of town that I did, I learned very quickly that a Jew can very easily become an outsider,” said one of this week’s newcomers, Jordan Cooper, 19, from Garnet Valley, PA. “My reason for wanting to move to Israel is that I wish to serve in the IDF. I feel it is my responsibility as a Jew to protect future Jewish generations so they can live in their homeland without fear of persecution,” he added. The immigrants arrived through Nefesh B’Nefesh, the immigrant support organization, in cooperation with the Immigrant Absorption Ministry, the Jewish Agency, KKL-JNF and JNF-USA. …”

        https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rank-and-file-40-young-immigrants-arrive-in-israel-ready-to-serve-1.6221029?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    • JWalters
      June 29, 2018, 8:22 pm

      Just, I so totally agree with your post praising these women and all who rallied to support them. This was a brilliant information warfare operation, expertly carried out, a solid blow for the facts and for justice.

  3. guyn
    June 29, 2018, 5:12 pm

    Poor Israelis. All they wanted is to be left alone, free to steal, free to humiliate, free to oppress, free to kill. What is wrong with that?…

  4. JLewisDickerson
    June 29, 2018, 7:03 pm

    RE: “The walkout is further proof of what we have been advertising here for years, the coming divorce between American Jews and Israeli ones over the character of the Jewish state and its political scaffolding here in the States, the Israel lobby. Though from the looks of this confrontation, we’re moving past divorce to a war.” ~ Weiss

    ANY “WAVERING” AT ALL IN FULL-FLEDGED SUPPORT OF ISRAEL IS ABSOLUTELY VERBOTEN – http://mondoweiss.net/2018/04/criticism-atrocities-advocates/#comment-914080

  5. JLewisDickerson
    June 29, 2018, 7:31 pm

    RE: “The world should know. The American Jewish community and the youth– the young people of the American Jewish community should know that the birthright is not providing the kind of education that we really need in this time of complex and entrenched politics, and Birthright is telling a one sided story. And it’s not fair. And we deserve the truth.” ~ Sophie Lasoff

    MY COMMENT: That’s not the way Shelon Adelson (one of Birthright’s biggest funders) rolls!*

    * SEE: “Israel’s sugar daddy, Sheldon Adelson”, by Brad A. Greenberg, JewishJournal.com, June 27, 2008

    [EXCERPT] . . . Adelson’s reach hasn’t been limited to charity. In fact, some say he uses money to meddle in Israeli politics, pushing a right-wing vision void of a peace process through his connections with American politicians—Bush called the Republican donor “some crazy Jewish billionaire”—and his free daily newspaper, Israel Hayom, which observers criticize as being stuffed with propaganda for Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu.

    At a formal dinner attended by more than a hundred senior officials of various Israeli and Jewish organizations, guests were offered the opportunity to tell Peres what they considered the biggest challenge facing the Jewish people. Adelson, according to Ha’aretz, declared, “I think Jews should have lots of sex. That is the solution to our demographic problem.”

    After Adelson addressed the conference, Nahum Barnea wrote in his column in Yedioth Ahronoth, “I saw a gambling tycoon from Las Vegas who bought my country’s birthday with three million dollars. I thought with sorrow: Is the country worth so very little? Were the champagne, wine and sushi that were given out for free in the lobby—breaking convention for such events—worth the humiliation?” Barnea went on:

    Adelson is a Jew who loves Israel. Like some other Jews who live at a safe distance from here, his love is great, passionate, smothering. It is important to him that he influences the policies, decisions, and compositions of the Israeli governments. He is not alone in this, either; even back in the days of Baron Rothschild, wealthy Jews from the Diaspora felt that this country lay in their pocket, alongside their wallet.

    Regrettably, in the latest generation, we are being led by politicians who look at these millionaires with calf’s eyes.

    In Israel, where political, academic, and business leaders tend to be outspoken, there is a striking reticence at the mention of Sheldon Adelson. Even people who are diametrically opposed to his politics refuse to be interviewed. “There is a discernible amount of self-censorship going on,” the liberal Israeli-American writer Bernard Avishai said. “There is no ideological justification for what Sheldon is doing among the Israeli intelligentsia—and a revulsion at an American weighing in so heavily on Israeli politics, in such a crude, reactionary way. But they won’t speak.”

    These details come from Connie Bruck’s masterful and revealing profile of Adelson for this week’s New Yorker. It’s been getting a lot of buzz for its insight into the mindset of a right-wing American Jew whose love for Israel spans from his Lithuanian father too poor to set foot there to his sabra wife. But what really shocked me was a portion a little closer to home for Adelson, whose non-union Venetian was in 1999 being picketed by the Culinary Union:

    Las Vegas’s Temple Beth Sholom was holding a dinner to fête the new mayor of Las Vegas, Oscar Goodman. Adelson, a member of Beth Sholom, had recently pledged two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to the temple’s new-building fund.

    The dinner was to be held at the Venetian, but Mayor Goodman said that he would not cross the picket line, and synagogue officials decided to go elsewhere. Adelson excoriated Beth Sholom’s rabbi, Felipe Goodman. Rabbi Goodman told the Review-Journal* that Adelson had been “so verbally abusive. I was very upset because no one had ever talked to me like he talked to me.” After the dinner took place at the Four Seasons, Adelson withdrew his pledge to Beth Sholom. He gave large sums to the local Chabad, a branch of the Hasidic Chabad-Lubavitchers, for the construction of a new center. . .

    ORIGINAL LINK – http://www.jewishjournal.com/thegodblog/item/israels_sugar_daddy_sheldon_adelson_20080627
    CURRENT LINK – http://jewishjournal.com/uncategorized/64532/

    * NOTE: Later, the Las Vegas Review-Journal was surreptitiously purchased by Adelson. ~ https://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/how-the-las-vegas-review-journal-unmasked-its-owners

    • JLewisDickerson
      June 29, 2018, 7:42 pm

      RE: At a formal dinner attended by more than a hundred senior officials of various Israeli and Jewish organizations, guests were offered the opportunity to tell Peres what they considered the biggest challenge facing the Jewish people. Adelson, according to Ha’aretz, declared, “I think Jews should have lots of sex. That is the solution to our demographic problem.” ~ from the Greenberg article excerpted above

      SEE:
      Lebensborn
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      Lebensborn e.V. (literally: “Fount of Life”) was an SS-initiated, state-supported, registered association in Nazi Germany with the goal of raising the birth rate of “Aryan” children via extramarital relations of persons classified as “racially pure and healthy” based on Nazi racial hygiene and health ideology. Lebensborn encouraged anonymous births by unmarried women, and mediated adoption of these children by likewise “racially pure and healthy” parents, particularly SS members and their families. . .

      SOURCE – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

      P.S. ALSO SEE: “The Nazi Party: The ‘Lebensborn’ Program (1935 – 1945)”
      LINK – https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Lebensborn.html

    • Misterioso
      June 30, 2018, 10:30 am

      @JLewisDickerson

      The future will reveal that Sheldon Adelson and his ilk are making it so easy for real anti-Semites to take the reins.

      • JLewisDickerson
        July 1, 2018, 8:53 pm

        I very much fear that may prove to be the case, but I “pray to god” it will not come to pass.

  6. JWalters
    June 29, 2018, 8:34 pm

    “The former congressman Brian Baird once said that when you criticize Israel even privately to Israeli officials, say over the 2009 Gaza slaughter, they flip out on you, even if you’re a congressman”

    I recognize this tactic from time spent in sales. It’s a last ditch tool to control someone. I heard this used by a guy who later explained it to me. First he tries his straightforward approach of benefits and costs. If that doesn’t work he starts adding pressure, becoming more demanding in his manner. This will intimidate and flip some people. His final stage is to rage at them (I thought he was going crazy). But that will flip some people, he claimed. On another occasion this same guy told me how he had become an evangelical Christian.

  7. JLewisDickerson
    June 29, 2018, 8:38 pm

    RE: A young man holding an American flag, evidently a participant on the trip, comes up to the group of dissenters and says that, “From a teacher’s perspective, you guys are the reason that the world doesn’t change, you know that?” He then berates them. “Guess what. Just go. Go to Palestine. Because guess what’s going to happen. You will get killed. You will get raped.”

    FROM WIKIPEDIA [Psychological projection]:

    [EXCERPT] Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is habitually intolerant may constantly accuse other people of being intolerant. It incorporates blame shifting.

    According to some research, the projection of one’s unconscious qualities onto others is a common process in everyday life.[2]

    • Historical precursors

    A prominent precursor in the formulation of the projection principle was Giambattista Vico.[3][4] In 1841, Ludwig Feuerbach was the first enlightenment thinker to employ this concept as the basis for a systematic critique of religion.[5][6][7] The Babylonian Talmud (500 AD) notes the human tendency toward projection and warns against it: “Do not taunt your neighbour with the blemish you yourself have.”[8]

    • Psychoanalytic developments

    Projection (German: Projektion) was conceptualised by Sigmund Freud in his letters to Wilhelm Fliess,[9] and further refined by Karl Abraham and Anna Freud. Freud considered that, in projection, thoughts, motivations, desires, and feelings that cannot be accepted as one’s own are dealt with by being placed in the outside world and attributed to someone else.[10] What the ego repudiates is split off and placed in another.[11]

    Freud would later come to believe that projection did not take place arbitrarily, but rather seized on and exaggerated an element that already existed on a small scale in the other person.[12] (The related defence of projective identification differs from projection in that there the other person is expected to become identified with the impulse or desire projected outside,[13] so that the self maintains a connection with what is projected, in contrast to the total repudiation of projection proper.)[14]

    Melanie Klein saw the projection of good parts of the self as leading potentially to over-idealisation of the object.[15] Equally, it may be one’s conscience that is projected, in an attempt to escape its control: a more benign version of this allows one to come to terms with outside authority.[16]

    • Theoretical examples

    Projection tends to come to the fore in normal people at times of personal or political crisis[17] but is more commonly found in the neurotic or psychotic[18] in personalities functioning at a primitive level as in narcissistic personality disorder or borderline personality disorder.[19]

    Carl Jung considered that the unacceptable parts of the personality represented by the Shadow archetype were particularly likely to give rise to projection, both small-scale and on a national/international basis.[20] Marie-Louise Von Franz extended her view of projection, stating that “wherever known reality stops, where we touch the unknown, there we project an archetypal image”.[21]

    Psychological projection is one of the medical explanations of bewitchment used to explain the behavior of the afflicted children at Salem in 1692. The historian John Demos asserts that the symptoms of bewitchment experienced by the afflicted girls were due to the girls undergoing psychological projection of repressed aggression.[22] . . .

    • JLewisDickerson
      June 29, 2018, 8:46 pm

      P.S. ALSO SEE: Birthright Israel and #MeToo | April 18, 2018 | By Sarah Seltzer

      [EXCERPT] Jewish Currents spoke with more than 50 Birthright Israel participants and staffers about their experiences with the often-fraught sexual and gender dynamics on the famous free trip to Israel. Here is what we found.

      [This article was reported in partnership with The Investigative Fund at The Nation Institute, with support from the Puffin Foundation.
      If you have information that you would like to share, on this topic or any other, please email [email protected]]

      I. The day after Julia Peck says she was sexually assaulted by an Israeli soldier on her trip with Birthright Israel, she had thoughts of jumping in front of a bus. Wracked by pain and guilt as she arrived at the Western Wall, she says she slipped a note between the stones. The note read, “I’m sorry.”

      Peck, then a sophomore, arrived back at Columbia University during a heated campus discussion of consent, alcohol and coercion. She steeled herself and filed a report about her incident . . .

      CONTINUED AT – https://jewishcurrents.org/report/birthright-israel-and-metoo/

    • JLewisDickerson
      June 29, 2018, 9:12 pm

      P.P.S.
      ☛ FROM BRITANNICA.COM [cognitive dissonance]

      cognitive dissonance – the mental conflict that occurs when beliefs or assumptions are contradicted by new information. The unease or tension that the conflict arouses in a person is relieved by one of several defensive maneuvers: the person rejects, explains away, or avoids the new information, persuades himself that no conflict really exists, reconciles the differences, or resorts to any other defensive means of preserving stability or order in his conception of the world and of himself. The concept, first introduced in the 1950s, has become a major point of discussion and research.

      SOURCE – http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/124498/cognitive-dissonance

      ☛ FROM WIKIPEDIA [Defence mechanisms, as of 1/28/14]:

      [EXCERPTS] . . . In Freudian psychoanalytic theory, defense mechanisms are psychological strategies brought into play by the unconscious mind[4] to manipulate, deny, or distort reality in order to defend against feelings of anxiety and unacceptable impulses to maintain one’s self schema.[5] . . .
      . . . The list of defence mechanisms is huge and there is no theoretical consensus on the number of defence mechanisms. . .

      Vaillant’s categorization of defence mechanisms

      Level 1: Pathological
      The mechanisms on this level, when predominating, almost always are severely pathological. These six defences, in conjunction, permit one to effectively rearrange external experiences to eliminate the need to cope with reality. The pathological users of these mechanisms frequently appear irrational or insane to others. These are the “psychotic” defences, common in overt psychosis. However, they are normally found in dreams and throughout childhood as well.[22] They include:
      • Delusional projection: Delusions about external reality, usually of a persecutory nature [i.e., perceiving legitimate criticism of Israel’s actions as “anti-Semitism” ~ J.L.D.].

      • Conversion: . . .

      • Extreme projection: The blatant denial of a moral or psychological deficiency, which is perceived as a deficiency in another individual or group.

      • Superiority complex: A psychological defence mechanism in which a person’s feelings of superiority counter or conceal his or her feelings of inferiority. The inflated feelings of being superior, above the ordinary, and special, along with arrogance lead to difficulties at work and in relationships.

      • Inferiority complex: A behaviour that is displayed through a lack of self-worth, an increase of doubt and uncertainty, and feeling of not measuring up to society’s standards. Despotic control [think “Rosebud” ~ J.L.D.] is a compensation for tremendous feelings of inferiority, unworthiness, self-rejection and often feeling unlovable. . .

      SOURCE – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_mechanisms

  8. echinococcus
    June 29, 2018, 10:50 pm

    If you watch this tape, no one has threatened Golan in any manner. And he responds with this violent rage.

    Somewhat taken by surprise and therefore rather inarticulate, yes. Possibly would have been inarticulate anytime, conceded. Because he sure does sound rather stupid. Assertive of his “guide” privilege and his Invader Herrenvolk privilege, sure. Also he was raising his voice in contained exasperation.

    But “violent rage”? Man, you’re one of those who would call the cops if you only heard me ordering my coffee! Human beings are not all obliged to speak in whispers and without hand gestures.

    • Mooser
      June 30, 2018, 12:00 pm

      “But “violent rage”? Man, you’re one of those who would call the cops if you only heard me ordering my coffee!”

      Bully a Barista for Palestine!

    • Stephen Shenfield
      July 1, 2018, 3:10 pm

      The tour guide is an employee. Surely he is worried that his employers will hold him responsible for the defection of the young women and he will be penalized in some way. I suspect this is what he has in mind when he says ‘this is not fair to me’ — he feels he has been doing a good job.

      • echinococcus
        July 1, 2018, 11:57 pm

        Shenfield.

        Correct.
        That’s why propaganda jobs are not for common jobholders but the brainless, indoctrinated brutes.

    • Keith
      July 1, 2018, 8:57 pm

      ECHIN0C0CCUS- “But “violent rage”?”

      I agree. Phil is, once again, making a mountain out of a mole hill. The guide was upset that this Jewish American Princess was interfering with his packaged tour in an effort to have her cake and eat it too. Her “Jewish” values? One can only assume that Judeocentrism is the primary value of those who seek the kinship of a powerful group while protesting the inevitable consequences of a tribal perspective. So, she has her video of her self-cleansing “protest” to secure her bona fides in her specific Jewish niche group. Courage? Give me a break!

      • echinococcus
        July 1, 2018, 11:43 pm

        Judeocentrism is the primary value of those who seek the kinship of a powerful group while protesting the inevitable consequences of a tribal perspective.

        Superb diagnosis.

      • eljay
        July 2, 2018, 9:38 am

        … Bethany says, “I want to be part of a Jewish community that can wrestle with the reality of occupied territories …

        Danielle says they gave Birthright an opportunity over nine days to show the whole picture. The point of the trip is for Jews to fall in love with Israel. But “If you were dating someone, you would never show them just the good parts of yourself,” she says. You’d tell them the bad parts too.

        A young woman identified as Sophie Lasoff by Ynet says …

        “We… have been really disappointed on a number of occasions about the way that Birthright has completely erased the effects of the occupation or avoided our questions, or spun things in a way that we felt were extremely biased. we feel like this education has not been what we were looking for. We came all the way across the world in order to see what they keep telling us is our homeland. And to me, grappling with what a homeland means to me, means grappling with it in all of its complexity, and they haven’t allowed us to do that. … ”

        I can’t get behind the love for these young women:
        – They are Americans who have chosen to embrace the religion-based identity of Jewish and, as a result, feel entitled to be a part of “Jewish State” supremacism.
        – What troubles them is not their desire to be supremacists in a supremacist country, but the fact that some aspects of the ideology to which they subscribe and the supremacist state it spawned are unappealing to them.
        – Rather than reconsider their desire they want their concerns allayed and the unpalatable made more palatable.

      • Mooser
        July 2, 2018, 12:59 pm

        “So, she has her video of her self-cleansing “protest” to secure her bona fides in her specific Jewish niche group.”“Keith”

        “Dabakr” is sooo going to steal that from you, if he hasn’t already.

  9. Paranam Kid
    June 30, 2018, 6:40 am

    This proves beyond any doubt that Israel is fighting a losing battle, dissent among US Jews is rising, and Israel is getting ever more desperate.

    If the country would have nothing to hide and would have no legitimacy issues, why, anyone who would ask questions would receive answers, and those who would want to leave the group to go see & experience for themselves would be able to do so without the vile, vulgar, verbal abuse that these 5 women, and undoubtedly others like them, have had to suffer.

    • RoHa
      June 30, 2018, 10:28 am

      If the country had nothing to hide and had no legitimacy issues, why, anyone who asked questions would receive answers, and those who wanted to leave the group to go see & experience for themselves would be able to do so.

      Much easier to write and to understand when you get the conditionals right.

      • Paranam Kid
        June 30, 2018, 1:23 pm

        @RoHa: I understand you pride yourself on your command of English, and no doubt I could learn a thing or 2 from you, but to be honest your style does not interest me, certainly not on this forum.

        So, if you have trouble understanding my comments I suggest you just skip them and try to teach others who are interested.
        Thank you.

      • Annie Robbins
        July 1, 2018, 10:51 pm

        it’s true tho, if the country had nothing to hide and had no legitimacy issues, anyone who asked questions would likely receive answers and those who wanted to leave the group to go see & experience for themselves would be able to do so.

      • RoHa
        July 2, 2018, 2:05 am

        No argument with the sentiment. Just unable to understand the refusal to learn.

        Though I admit that I don’t seem able to learn that there are people who don’t want to.

      • Mooser
        July 2, 2018, 1:04 pm

        “Though I admit that I don’t seem able to learn that there are people who don’t want to.”

        There are those that know, bro’, and those that gnosis.

  10. Ossinev
    June 30, 2018, 7:02 am

    @Just
    “It’s telling that the ‘free trip and stay’ is what some are so resentful of. I guess they’ll demand loyalty pledges from now on”

    Perhaps they will introduce some sort of cash deposit scheme.Returnable if you don`t ask any awkward questions and toe the Zioline at all times. Baaaa!!

    • Mooser
      June 30, 2018, 11:26 am

      “Perhaps they will introduce some sort of cash deposit scheme.”

      I don’t understand why JNF, the Jewish Agency or even AIPAC or J Street won’t set up an Executors Bureau. Ready-made last-will-and-testament forms will be prepared, naming one of the organizations as beneficiary if the requisite Zionism or in-marriage is not consummated, as determined by the Executor.
      Do any of those organizations even offer such a service?

      That’s what you do if you are serious about the next generation embracing Zionism and in-marriage.

    • echinococcus
      July 1, 2018, 11:35 pm

      Cash deposit for a program expressly designed for freeloaders?
      Good idea!

  11. Steve Grover
    June 30, 2018, 7:52 am

    ” IfNotNow is surely leftleaning, but it does not oppose Zionism outright, ”
    IfNotNow is JVP-LITE. Both are bottled at the same brewery of obsessive hatred directed against Israel, Israelis and the vast majority of Jews who are pro-Israel.
    So Birthright will start doing a better job of not allowing INN and/or JVP infiltrators to join the trips to Israel. This will result in a negligible decline in number of participants or more likely an increase.

    • eljay
      June 30, 2018, 9:25 am

      || Steve Grover: … IfNotNow is JVP-LITE. Both are bottled at the same brewery of obsessive hatred directed against Israel, Israelis and the vast majority of Jews who are pro-Israel.
      So Birthright will start doing a better job of not allowing INN and/or JVP infiltrators to join the trips to Israel. This will result in a negligible decline in number of participants or more likely an increase. ||

      Keep the supremacism as pure as possible. That’s your spirits the spirit!

    • CigarGod
      June 30, 2018, 9:35 am

      Snake oil has always been a hard sell because like these 5 young women, most people understand what it is distilled from.

    • Misterioso
      June 30, 2018, 10:43 am

      @Steve Grover

      Dream on!!

      Reality:
      NEWSWEEK – 5/10/18
      “More Israelis are moving to the U.S.—and staying for good”
      “Spurred by the high cost of living, low salaries, and political and demographic trends, Israelis are leaving the country in droves.” By Yardena Schwartz

      EXCERPTS:
      “In April, as her family in central Israel prepared to celebrate Independence Day, Rachel Ohal was preparing for what she calls ‘every Israeli’s dream.’ The next morning, she awoke in her home in Los Angeles and drove to a ceremony to become an American citizen. She is one of at least 1 million Israelis residing in the United States. And if Israel—home to 8.8 million people—doesn’t change course, many more may soon join her.

      “Israel celebrates its 70th birthday in May with the opening of the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. Yet the country is grappling with an existential crisis—one that doesn’t involve Iranian nukes or Palestinian protests. Spurred by the high cost of living, low salaries, and political and demographic trends, Israelis are leaving the country in droves, trying to build their lives elsewhere, mostly in the United States. Many of these young Israelis are moving to big cities, and yet, even in these often expensive places, they see more opportunities to advance.”

      “The available data is telling, analysts say. Between 2006 and 2016, more than 87,000 Israelis became U.S. citizens or legalized permanent residents, according to the most recent data from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. That’s up from 66,000 between 1995 and 2005. These figures take into account only those who took the legal route (many Israelis, analysts say, arrive on temporary tourist, student or work visas, then stay). And in addition to the Israelis now living stateside, according to the country’s Ministry of Immigrant Absorption, hundreds of thousands have moved to Europe, Canada and elsewhere.

      “The country’s brain drain isn’t new. For years, many of its most talented scholars and researchers moved to the U.S., where the salaries are far higher and there are more jobs at top-tier universities. One report by Dan Ben-David, an economist at Tel Aviv University, found that the emigration rate of Israeli researchers was the highest in the Western world. Recently, however, the exodus has expanded to include average young people, many of whom say there’s simply no future in Israel.

      “According to government data, 8 percent of Israelis work in high-tech, which pays up to seven times the national average salary of $2,765 a month (before taxes). Israel has one of the highest poverty rates and levels of income inequality in the Western world. Meanwhile, it also has one of the highest costs of living. Tel Aviv ranks ninth among the world’s most expensive cities, higher than New York and Los Angeles; five years ago, it ranked 34th. The situation is so dire that a 2013 survey by the financial newspaper Calcalist (the most recent Israeli study conducted on this topic) found that 87 percent of adults—many with children of their own—depend on substantial financial support from their parents.”

      • Annie Robbins
        June 30, 2018, 11:49 am

        87% of adults depend on substantial financial support from their parents? wow, that’s outrageous. i had no idea. is that a cultural thing? i could understand 25% or something in that range, but 87%? i thought adults of a certain age were more likely to be helping to support their elderly parents, not the other way around.

        i wonder what the percentages are in this country.

      • John O
        June 30, 2018, 12:19 pm

        Interesting, but not surprising. Occupation and the military are expensive hobbies/addictions for a small country (and even for the big ones).

      • Mooser
        June 30, 2018, 12:20 pm

        “87% of adults depend on substantial financial support from their parents? wow, that’s outrageous. i had no idea. is that a cultural thing?”

        Wen der fater gibt men tsu zun, lachen baiden. Wen der zun gibt men tsu fater, vainen baiden.

        (“When the father gives to his son, both laugh. When the son gives to the father, both cry.”)

      • Annie Robbins
        June 30, 2018, 12:37 pm

        a yiddish proverb! how interesting mooser.

      • Mooser
        June 30, 2018, 1:40 pm

        “a yiddish proverb! how interesting mooser.”

        I tried it out on my parents, hoping for that ‘cultural thing’ to kick in, but they just told me “go get a job, shmendrick

      • Citizen
        June 30, 2018, 6:47 pm

        @ Annie Robbins

        Definitely a trend in USA too, but not as bad as in Israel:

        How much financial help are millennials getting from their parents?, via @mic https://mic.com/articles/189255/how-much-financial-help-are-millennials-getting-from-their-parents#.rXOEKSDUv

      • Sibiriak
        July 1, 2018, 7:35 am

        Misterioso : Reality: NEWSWEEK – 5/10/18 “More Israelis are moving to the U.S.—and staying for good”
        —————————–

        But net migration remains positive: more people are immigrating to Israel than emigrating.

        Even more importantly, the Jewish Israeli birthrate is very high; the population will double in 40 some years, with Jews maintaining their super-majority. If more educated, secular Israelis leave, that just means a hyper-militaristic, nuclear-armed Israel becoming even more right-wing and bellicose. Nothing to cheer about.

      • Marnie
        July 2, 2018, 12:41 am

        It’s not a cultural thing from my experience and some friends whose grown children live with them because they can’t afford their own place because the pay is shit and the cost of living astronomical (as would be expected considering how things are run and of course the high cost (moral decay/decline as well as monetary) of the continuing occupation of half the population.

      • Mooser
        July 2, 2018, 12:42 pm

        “Even more importantly, the Jewish Israeli birthrate is very high; the population will double in 40 some years, with Jews maintaining their super-majority.”

        And by marrying each other, the Israeli Jews will get more and more Jewish, too.
        http://www.jewishgeneticdiseases.org/

    • Mooser
      June 30, 2018, 11:28 am

      “Steve”, see my 11:26 am comment for a serious, sure-fire way to ensure Zionism and in-marriage in the next generation.

      • Steve Grover
        June 30, 2018, 1:29 pm

        ““Steve”, see my 11:26 am comment for a serious, sure-fire way to ensure Zionism and in-marriage in the next generation.”

        So Mooser, I was in Evanston a few weeks ago and I saw some JVP “people” protesting outside of Jan Schakowsky’s office. I walked over to see what was going on. I was standing next to one of them and I said you stink. So he removed his JVP t-shirt and changed into his IfNotNow t-shirt. And I told him he still stinks.

      • Mooser
        July 2, 2018, 12:30 pm

        ” I was standing next to one of them and I said you stink”

        Think you can convince his parents to disinherit him? And give the money to Israel.

    • Talkback
      June 30, 2018, 6:03 pm

      Steve Grover: “Both are bottled at the same brewery of obsessive hatred directed against Israel, Israelis and the vast majority of Jews who are pro-Israel.”

      Your accusation of “obssesive hatred” is not only a good example of your opinion fascism, but probebably your own expression of hatred against anyone who isn’t in line with your racist national ideology.

    • Mooser
      June 30, 2018, 9:52 pm

      “So Birthright will start doing a better job of not allowing INN and/or JVP infiltrators to join the trips to Israel.”

      Gee, “Steve”, do you think other religions have the same trouble we Jews have with “infiltrators”, traitors, turncoats and mosers?

      Why do so many Jews turn against our own people? If you’re not too drunk to answer, maybe you could clear that up for me.

    • echinococcus
      July 2, 2018, 12:09 am

      a better job of not allowing INN and/or JVP infiltrators to join the trips to Israel.

      Now this is a brilliant idea. Genius.

      Only allow the 100% convinced, militant Zionists to a free program designed to win over the uncertain, the tribally uncommitted, the hesitating, those who still have some traces of decency left.
      Spend millions to convince the already firmly convinced.

      How I wish the Zionist top leadership would hire Grober as a strategy consultant.

  12. snaidamast
    June 30, 2018, 12:21 pm

    Bravo for these courageous women to take on Israelis in their own land.

    Such panicked responses from Israelis are an indication of a society in rapid decline…

  13. Hazel Kahan
    June 30, 2018, 1:06 pm

    This is an especially heartening development in the midst of so much else closing in. I’ve been waiting a long, long time and many confrontations for the mask to come off Birthright. Perhaps it will now become easier for people to identify hasbara.

    • Citizen
      June 30, 2018, 6:58 pm

      In the video, those five girls explain they tried for 8 days to get their questions about the occupation answered to no avail; finally they decided to switch busses and go on the BreakingThe Silence bus. The Birthright guy accused them of planning all along to, in effect, sabotage the Birthright program & he also told them they were not honest girls and should have chosen to go with BTS in the first place. Others on the trip said they should pay Birthright for their trip and it was only right to stick with the group you enlist with and not expect to hear about Palestine in the first place.

  14. Ossinev
    June 30, 2018, 1:17 pm

    @Misterioso
    “These figures take into account only those who took the legal route (many Israelis, analysts say, arrive on temporary tourist, student or work visas, then stay). ”
    OMG Israeli “Dreamers”! I hope Daft Donald is aware.

  15. EUHUGUENIN
    June 30, 2018, 1:21 pm

    IDF Chief Says Israel Is Becoming Like Nazi Germany, Refuses to Back Down

    The outgoing IDF chief has doubled down on his highly controversial comments he made comparing modern-day Israel with that of 1930’s Nazi Germany. http://www.globalresearch.ca/idf-chief-says-israel-is-becoming-like-nazi-germany-refuses-to-back-down/5600782

  16. chocopie
    June 30, 2018, 5:48 pm

    It’s so amusing to watch Golan’s verbal thrashing and sputtering as he tries different tactics to undermine the dissenters. At one point early on, he says if they want to bail on the program they’ll have to sign a waiver and then they’ll be free to go. LOL. What’s he going to do if they don’t sign? Chain them up and drag them on the tour?

    If he had any sense at all he would have said OK, good-bye, nice meeting you, and turned his back on them. Good thing he has no sense. All his drama turns this episode into a public spectacle and a gift for critics of Birthright.

    Glad to learn that some Jewish activist groups are focusing on outreach to Birthright participants.

    Good luck to these young people who had enough independence of mind to ask questions and pursue answers. Depending on their background and support systems, it may not be easy for them to dissent in this way. I hope they ultimately choose to stand with Palestinians and on the side of justice.

  17. iResistDe4iAm
    June 30, 2018, 10:32 pm

    “Whoever comes to learn has to have an open mind” said the close-minded chaperone who was afraid to be ‘provocated’ “to say something I don’t want to say”.

    Birthright participants with an open mind should consider watching this short video [2:51]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXol1P3-bEE

    Other short videos from Apartheid Adventures can be found here:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfZ6VmyfB2IyzCPvqSN23Sw/videos

    • gamal
      July 1, 2018, 10:24 am

      “to say something I don’t want to say”.

      “The death of free expression in England
      Robert Henderson

      The convictions in 2018 of Jeremy “Jez” Bedford-Turner and Alison Chabloz for simply saying things our politically correct elite do not want to hear set a new benchmark for the imposition on England of the totalitarian creed which is political correctness. It is a totalitarian creed because (1) it touches on all aspects of life through the application of the non-discrimination or equality principle and (2) its followers insist that there is only one permissible view, the politically correct one.

      The convictions

      Mr Bedford-Turner has been found guilty of inciting racial hatred in a speech he made outside of Downing Street and sentenced to 12 months imprisonment, of which half will be served on licence. The main thrust of the speech was his concern about the close relationship between the Metropolitan Police and a charity Shomrim which acts as a private Jewish security force.

      Ms Chabloz, a singer and musician, has been convicted of three offences relating to the use of a public electronic service. These arise from three songs she had written which were placed on social media and deemed to be grossly insulting to Jews.

      Ms Chabloz was sentenced to 20 weeks imprisonment suspended for two years, given 180 hours of community service plus a fine, victim’s surcharge and costs. She is also banned from using social media for a year. Moreover, the conviction will continue to hinder her both socially and professionally after the two years are spent because it will make it difficult or impossible for her to enter countries, especially places such as the USA and Canada.”

      https://livinginamadhouse.wordpress.com/2018/06/27/the-death-of-free-expression-in-england/

  18. Marnie
    July 1, 2018, 12:41 am

    I didn’t realize how rape is the fantasy of so many israeli men and women. They wish it upon women who denounce the ‘state’, as if it is their due for their lack of enthusiasm for the zionist state. Rape is horrible and something that scars you for life, but its not the worst thing that can happen. It doesn’t make you hate yourself nearly as much as complicity does.

    • chocopie
      July 1, 2018, 3:41 pm

      Yes, it is creepy how so many authoritarian types’ minds go directly to rape when a woman dissents.

  19. JLewisDickerson
    July 1, 2018, 3:51 am

    RE: Birthright walkout is met with vitriolic rage in Israel — ‘Radicals’ ‘You will get raped’

    R-A-D-I-C-A-L-S !
    R-A-D-I-C-A-L-S !
    R-A-D-I-C-A-L-S !

    When did “radical” become such a four-letter word?

    P.S. I get the feeling that the use of the label “radical” engendered very strong antipathy in someone’s focus group. It seems to have become the new “n-word”!

    • JLewisDickerson
      July 1, 2018, 7:00 pm

      P.S.

      A R-A-D-I-C-A-L FROM THE PAST:

      Heinrich Heine
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Heine

      (EXCERPT) Christian Johann Heinrich Heine (German: [ˈhaɪnʁɪç ˈhaɪnə]; 13 December 1797 – 17 February 1856) was a German poet, journalist, essayist, and literary critic. He is best known outside of Germany for his early lyric poetry, which was set to music in the form of Lieder (art songs) by composers such as Robert Schumann and Franz Schubert. Heine’s later verse and prose are distinguished by their satirical wit and irony. He is considered part of the Young Germany movement. His radical political views led to many of his works being banned by German authorities. Heine spent the last 25 years of his life as an expatriate in Paris.

      • Childhood and youth

      Heine was born at Düsseldorf in what was then the Duchy of Berg, into a Jewish family. He was called “Harry” in childhood but became known as “Heinrich” after his conversion to Lutheranism in 1825.[1] Heine’s father, Samson Heine (1764–1828), was a textile merchant. His mother Peira (known as “Betty”), née van Geldern (1771–1859), was the daughter of a physician. . .

    • Marnie
      July 2, 2018, 12:27 am

      Around the same time ‘liberal’ came to be seen as a force for evil instead of good maybe. There should be a dictionary for these words, they aren’t new words by any means, but their their definition is no longer the same.

    • Mooser
      July 2, 2018, 12:32 pm

      “When did “radical” become such a four-letter word?”

      After the Maccabees lost.

  20. Kay24
    July 1, 2018, 6:28 am

    This was always a “brainwashing” trip. For a nation that acts like charity case, and a welfare queen, they seem to have the shekels to finance Jewish Americans to come over there, and listen to their brainwashing programs, to ensure they will have loyalty and support when these naive folk go back home. It is impressive that these brave people were able to push back, and refuse to be part of the grand scheme to justify the occupation. I am sure the trip to the other side will be very rewarding, and the truth will prevail.

  21. Ossinev
    July 1, 2018, 8:04 am

    @Steve Grover
    “So Mooser, I was in Evanston a few weeks ago and I saw some JVP “people” protesting outside of Jan Schakowsky’s office. I walked over to see what was going on. I was standing next to one of them and I said you stink. So he removed his JVP t-shirt and changed into his IfNotNow t-shirt. And I told him he still stinks.”

    Ace chat up lines LOL .The Zionist way of making friends (furry or otherwise)and influencing people. Best see a specialist of some kind. Drugs may be the way forward ie some sort of medically induced mental straight jacket.

  22. umm al-hamam
    July 3, 2018, 6:07 am

    I don’t have much patience for American Jews who take up the offer of free trips to stolen Palestinian land, when millions of Palestinian refugees are barred from returning to that land. They are crossing the BDS picket line, spending money at Zionist businesses that enable the continuing occupation and ethnic cleansing of Palestine, contributing to Zionist propaganda by inflating the numbers of Jews who are participating, and reinforcing—however unintentionally—the belief that Palestine is essentially a Jewish waqf to which all Jews around the world are entitled.

    And this is American Jews who are already aware that the occupation exists! They can’t even plead ignorance…. if they truly want to learn about the occupation, why not travel to the West Bank the way Palestinians have to (through Jordan) and meet with Palestinian organisations within the occupied territories?

    (Instead they choose Breaking the Silence, an organisation that collects stories from Zionist war criminals—which tell us nothing we could not have heard from listening to Palestinian survivors—in exchange for guaranteed anonymity and impunity.)

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