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This is part of Marc H. Ellis’s “Exile and the Prophetic” feature for Mondoweiss. To read the entire series visit the archive page.

One State advocates are having a field day.  They deserve it.  After standing in the Two State shadow for decades, the mainstream media is running opinion pieces on the need for Israel/Palestine to become one democratic secular state for all its citizens, Jewish and Arab alike.

The recent prominent writings are by Ian Lustick,  a professor of Political Science at the University of Pennsylvania, and Yousef Munayyer who directs the Jerusalem Fund in Washington, D.C., and its educational program, the Palestine Center.  Lustick’s ambivalence about whether the best solution is one or two states sounds like a John Kerry alarm.  Time is running out for Israel to choose the Two State solution.  Israel is surrounded by hostile forces and, with Palestinians and the world up in arms over Israel’s behavior, the recipe for catastrophe is undeniable.  Munayyer is less ambivalent.  He favors the One State option for a host of reasons but focuses primarily on the rights and needs of Palestinians to be free in their own homeland.

Left out of the discussion is the position presented by Danny Danon, a member of the Knesset and the Deputy Defense Minister of Israel, in an Op-Ed that appeared in the Saturday Times.  He leads with the provocative title:  “Israel Should Annul the Oslo Accords.”

Even while disagreeing with Danon’s argument, one can appreciate his caustic manner.  Referring to the possible fallout of Israel annulling the Oslo Accords, Danon lambasts the peace process “industry”:  “Little impact would be felt by average Israelis and Palestinians. Those who would suffer most would be full-time negotiators like Martin S. Indyk and Saeb Erekat, who would find themselves out of a job after 20 years of gainful employment in the peace process industry.”

Aside from some much needed criticism of the peace process and those who benefit from it, Danon is to the point.  Oslo was a poorly conceived and thinly disguised arrangement between Israel and the Palestinian Liberation Organization that was bound to fail.  What should replace it?  Danon pulls no punches:

We should implement what I have called a “three-state solution.” In the future, the final status of the Palestinians will be determined in a regional agreement involving Jordan and Egypt, when the latter has been restabilized. All the region’s states must participate in the process of creating a long-term solution for the Palestinian problem.

Danon also has a short term plan:

In the short term, the Palestinians will continue to have autonomy over their civilian lives while Israel remains in charge of security throughout Judea and Samaria, commonly referred to as the West Bank. Following an initial period, the Arab residents of Judea and Samaria could continue to develop their society as part of an agreement involving Israel and Jordan. Similarly, Gaza residents could work with Israel and Egypt to create a society that granted them full civil authority over their lives in a manner that was acceptable to all sides.

Danon’s language and thinking is paternalistic.  He writes from the victor’s point of view.  The use of Judea and Samaria is Judeo-centric.  Referring to the “Palestinian problem” others the Palestinians.  Danon’s watchword is autonomy.  Palestinians don’t merit anything more.

Many in the One State and Two State camps will have little time for Danon’s proposed Three State solution.  With the window on the Two State solution already closed, the Three State solution seems absurd.  After the laughter subsides, though, take a look at the geopolitics in the evolving Middle East.

Israel and its Middle East allies – yes, that’s right, Israel and its Middle East allies.  With regard to Palestinians, Israel’s allies include Egypt and Jordan as Danon indicates but likewise Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Turkey.  They’re the most obvious.  A disciplined Syria and nuclear-free Iran will also join in the effort to contain Palestinians, if they haven’t already.  With Syria soon to be in a new Russian-American political framework and Iran begging for the US sanctions against it to be lifted, Hezbollah will be on the hot seat.  If all goes as planned, watch as Lebanon joins the ranks of Israel’s Middle East allies in the next decade.

The Three State solution.  Get ready to acknowledge the political reality.  Danon’s vision has already arrived.

About Marc H. Ellis

Marc H. Ellis is Professor of History and Jewish Studies and Director of the Center for the Study of the Global Prophetic. His new book, Finding Our Voice: Embodying the Prophetic and Other Misadventures, is forthcoming.

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  1. OlegR
    September 23, 2013, 10:37 am

    I don’t like Danon.
    Too much talk and kindergarten politics without any real substance.

  2. seafoid
    September 23, 2013, 10:42 am

    Just in case anyone buys the 2SS Shtick

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.548368

    “In wake of shooting that killed Israeli soldier near Hebron, (Israeli) prime minister pledges to ‘strengthen settlement’ in West Bank’

    Danon is like one of those Eastern European satellite country communist ideologues from the 1960s. A General Jaruzelski with a kippa.
    Of course the ideology is forever . The force of my personality assures it. If you don’t like it the torture chambers are to the left.

    His proposal is neat for a sociopathic bot who is committed to the extermination of all traces of the Palestinians in the so called holy land of the Jewish people but ignores how unstable the neighbours are.

  3. MHughes976
    September 23, 2013, 11:21 am

    I don’t really see how the allegedly 3 state solution differs from the status quo. Both the Palestinian entities have a degree of ‘civil autonomy’ now, neither have anything approaching sovereignty and it is clearly not intended that they become part of the sovereign territory of Jordan or Israel.
    Is the plan is that there would definitely be no more expansion of the settlements? That is not mentioned as far as I can see. Without that point we would be very much with the status quo.
    I think the real intention is the gradual export of the Palestinian population to Jordan and Egypt or to anywhere else that will take them. That always has been the plan, surely. Humane and generously funded relocation schemes (or that will be the terminology, sick as it will make some of us) will be created, though the bill will be attached to the foot of a carrier pigeon that flies west.
    The trouble with this plan has been that it has never really succeeded in persuading the Palestinians to leave, so that they are now the river-to-sea majority, or nearly so. Also that when the carrier pigeon flies to western treasuries it will find them rather empty and their guardians much less ready than they once were to attach cheques to the pigeon’s foot for the return journey.

    • seafoid
      September 23, 2013, 1:17 pm

      Expulsion on the back of great power horse trading would set a dangerous precedent for the jewish future in the region. Israel has to trade in respect for the sake of future generations of jews.

    • pabelmont
      September 23, 2013, 6:08 pm

      This 3SS is status quo with international guarantees (much as the Oslo was adorned with international guarantees, I dare say, by the (mistaken) involvement of the Quartet. However, if Israel formally annuls Oslo (hasn’t it done so in effect over the years?), then perhaps the I/P will once again have — for a while at least — NO/ZERO/ZILCH agreements between Israel and Palestine/PLO/PA. That would be a magical moment because the Fourth Geneva Convention [G4] (of blessed memory for practical purposes but so much fun to quote) makes NULL and VOID any agreement between occupier and occupied to the extent such agreement purports to void any rights of o0ccupieds guaranteed by Fourth Geneva Convention [G4]. Thus, any purported Palestinian agreement to existence of settlements would be VOID. (However, agreements between Palestinians and OTHER PARTIES — Quartet come to mind) (USA comes to mind) (Jordan and Egypt come to mind) might not qualify for that pleasant protection by G4.

  4. HarryLaw
    September 23, 2013, 11:29 am

    I think you are going a little over the top here Marc, these Israeli allies comprise for the most part dictators who do not reflect the views of their populations, it is too soon to say how [short of a regional war] the countries surrounding Israel will align themselves, I would think if those countries reflected in any way majority opinion, an alliance with Israel would be out of the question, as for Danon’s thoughts surely he has transfer in mind, at least of the Palestinians in the West Bank, together with some exotic political arrangement with those Palestinians who will not go quietly into the night, and a solution which ultimately confers Israeli sovereignty over the West Bank, the Raison D’etre of Danon and his ilk, together with shunting 1.6 million Palestinians in Gaza, plus the territory to Egyptian control, the Egyptians have repudiated any such deal in the past. In my opinion a two state solution based on International law can satisfy more people than the dreamers advocating a one state or three state solution, which would create more problems than they would solve.

  5. Walid
    September 23, 2013, 12:14 pm

    Danon’s plan is another gimmick to perpetuate the failed Oslo because it’s been very good for Israel. Don’t believe anything he says about the Oslo having been bad for Israel; thanks to the initial Oslo gimmick, 600,000 immovable settlers planted like bad weeds on the West Bank is not bad at all for Israel. I see where he’s headed with bringing in Egypt and Jordan. He’d have Egypt assume control of Gaza and Jordan to annex Israel’s leftovers of the West Bank. He brought Saudi Arabia into the equation to fund the 2 takeovers. The guy’s a snake.

    • seafoid
      September 23, 2013, 3:08 pm

      And why would egypt be even vaguely interested in taking gaza over??
      Israel ran gaza into the ground so pottery barn rules apply.

      • Walid
        September 23, 2013, 3:24 pm

        It first happened in 48, seafoid, supposedly to act as a buffer against the Zionist state. It quickly moved in and occupied it but did little to improve it for 19 years until it was thrown out by Israel. Gaza as it is today would be of no interest to anybody, but now Gaza has lots of offshore gas and that makes it more interesting, especially if Saudi Arabia picks up the tab while Egypt snuffs out the Brothers there.

      • seafoid
        September 23, 2013, 3:50 pm

        Walid

        It was the best the Masris could do to hold onto the site in 1948. Post 48 Gaza was a holding pen for the unwanted Palestinians of the South of Shangri la. It was never annexed to Umadunya.

        Now it’s a third world disease hotspot with rampant unemployment and it imports something like 80% of its food.

        Peres sometimes fantasises about Gaza becoming Singapore 2.0.
        The Masris have zero interest in taking over the management of the population.
        They have enough problems of their own, shukran gazeelan.

        Danon is an idiot and a dangerous racist. He would have been at home in the General Government of the Nazis in Poland in 1942.

      • Inanna
        September 25, 2013, 3:45 am

        Walid, the Gazans have been troublesome peoples historically and that is certainly their reputation in the Arab world. There’s a reason why Egypt never annexed Gaza and a reason why they don’t want them in the future either. I’m sure Egypt and Israel both plan to siphon off all that juicy offshore carbon fuel without having to touch Gaza with a ten-foot pole.

  6. lyn117
    September 23, 2013, 12:29 pm

    I guess, for Danon, the “Palestinian problem” is sort of akin to the “Jewish problem” was for many pre-WWII Europeans

    • MarkF
      September 23, 2013, 1:22 pm

      The irony of the “problem” jumped out at me as well.

      I also seem to think that his idea of enrolling the other mid-east allies is a sort of code for resettlement of the Palestinians to other neighboring countries. Maybe a “pay-to-take-our-problem-off-our-hands” type deal. Of course we all know whose tax payers will be paying if this happens.

      Once these hucksters start floating these ideas, they tend to take shape, like Sharon’s disengagement plan.

      • Walid
        September 23, 2013, 3:36 pm

        Mark, there was an offer about 18 years ago by the US ($10 billion) for Lebanon to absord the Palestinian refugees but it went nowhere because the Lebanese were afraid of upsetting their demographic balance. A few years later, around 2000 or 2001, the offer was floated again but this time it was for $20 billion by the US and Saudia. That also got nowhere. So yes, sooner or later the US is going to be paying a lot to fix the Palestinian problem in some unknown manner and so will the Saudis and other wealthy Arab states, but there hasn’t been any talk of Israel paying anything at all. We have to remember that the whole world owes Israel.

  7. American
    September 23, 2013, 12:58 pm

    One of these days there’s gonna be someone who’s had all the bullshit talky- talky, zionist- babble- crap- pitpul vomit they can take, involved in the “Israel Problem’ and pushes the button on these psychos and ends it.
    Oslo has been null and void and violated by Israel since the day it was born.

    Here’s the full text of the Oslo Accords
    link to middleeast.about.com

    Here are the main Isr violations of the agreement…there are others such as Isr violation of water price and usage and others financial agreement violations.

    Israel’s Violations of the Oslo Agreements:

    1) Israel Has Failed to End its Occupation

    The Oslo Agreements provide that Palestinians would have their freedom by May 1999. To date, Israel’s military occupation not only continues, but intensifies. The Declaration of Principles provides that the interim period is not to exceed five years (Article 1), from May 4, 1994. This is confirmed in Article 4 of the Wye River Memorandum. The interim period commenced with Israel’s withdrawal from the Gaza Strip and Jericho on May 1994. By May 1999, the interim period was to have ended and Palestinians were to be given their freedom. To date, Israel has failed to end its military occupation.

    2) After missing this deadline, Israel renegotiated a new deadline with the PLO. Under Article 1 of the Sharm El-Sheikh Memorandum, the Palestinians were to be given their freedom on September 13, 2000. By September 13, 2000, the Palestinians were still living under military occupation and continue to do so.

    3) Israel Continues to Build and Expand Its Illegal Colonies

    The Fourth Geneva Convention, ratified by Israel in June 1951 and which was not superceded by the Oslo Agreements, prohibits Israel from establishing colonies in the Occupied Palestinian Territories. Article 49 (6) of the Fourth Geneva Convention states “The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.” The Oslo Agreements reaffirm this position. Article 31 of the Interim Agreement provides that “the two parties view the West Bank and Gaza Strip as a single territorial unit, the integrity and status of which will be preserved during the interim period.” Article 31 also provides that “neither side shall initiate or take any step that will change the status of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip pending the outcome of the permanent status negotiations.”

    Despite these articles and in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention, Israel has since 1993:

    4) Doubled the number of settlers living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. There are now approximately 400,000

    5) Increased the number of illegal housing units in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (excluding Occupied East Jerusalem) by 62%

    6) Confiscated more than 60,000 acres of Palestinian land for colony construction and related by-pass roads, uprooted 220,000 trees and demolished 690 homes in the West Bank alone

    7) Removed from official government maps the Green Line separating Israel from the Occupied Palestinian Territories, thereby failing to recognize the Occupied Palestinian Territories as a “single territorial unit”. (See official Touring Map of Israel issued by the Israeli Ministry of Tourism).

    8) Fails to Withdraw from Palestinian Territories

    Under the Oslo Agreements, Israel’s occupation forces were to have withdrawn from substantially all of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip by July, 1997 – more than four and a half years ago. The process of withdrawal was to be carried out in three phases, beginning in October 1996 and ending in July 1997 and would have transferred approximately 88 percent of the West Bank to Palestinian control. Israel delayed each and every phase of the withdrawal. The Palestinian Authority has only full jurisdiction over 17.2 percent of the West Bank.

    9) Israel Fails to Release Political Prisoners

    Throughout Israel’s 35-year occupation of the Palestinian Territories, Israel imprisoned and detained thousands of Palestinians. Israel’s rate was so widespread that Palestinians suffered from one of the highest rates of incarceration in the world.

    The Oslo Agreements contain a number of provisions regarding the release of political prisoners.

    Article 20 of the Gaza Strip and Jericho Agreement required Israel to release over 5,000 Palestinian political prisoners. Article 16 of the Interim Agreement provided for further releases of Palestinian prisoners in three phases, the last of which was to occur during permanent status negotiations. Finally, Article 3 of the Sharm El-Sheikh Memorandum provided for the release of 350 political prisoners in September and October of 1999 and in December 1999 and January 2000. Despite these agreements, as of December 2000, approximately 1,350 Palestinians remained in Israeli custody, in violation of the Oslo Agreements.[5]

    10) Israel Fails to Open the Northern Safe Passage Route between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank and Closes the Southern Safe Passage Route

    Under the Interim Agreement (Annex I, Article 10) and the Sharm El-Sheikh Memorandum (Article 5), Israel was required to open both a northern and a southern safe passage route to connect the West Bank to the Gaza Strip for the movement of persons, vehicles and goods. The southern safe passage route was closed on October 8, 2000. The northern safe passage route was never opened.

    12) Israel Fails to Co-operate on Security Matters

    The Interim Agreement requires Israel and the Palestinian Authority to cooperate on security matters. (Annex I, Article 3). Since October 2000, Israel unilaterally decided not to cooperate with the PA on security matters. Repeated calls by the PA to resume security cooperation have been ignored by Israel.

    13) Israel Uses Lethal Force

    The Interim Agreement provides clear rules of engagement for Israeli soldiers:

    [T]he use of firearms…shall not be allowed, except as a last resort after all attempts at controlling the act or the incident, such as warning the perpetrator or shooting in the air, have failed or are ineffective or without any promise of achieving the intended result in the circumstances. Use of firearms should be aimed at deterring or apprehending, and not killing the perpetrator. The use of firearms shall cease once the danger is past. (Interim Agreement, Annex I, Article XI (3)(c)).

    Despite this provision, Israeli soldiers have deliberately aimed at killing Palestinian protestors and have not used live fire as a last resort. After conducting an inquiry into the Israel’s practices during the current uprising, Physicians for Human Rights (USA) concluded that the “IDF soldiers are not firing only in life-threatening situations and they are firing at heads and thighs in order to injure and kill, not to avoid loss of life and injury.”[6] Furthermore, even non-violent demonstrations (including those that do not involve stone-throwing), have met with violent responses by Israeli occupation forces. [7]

    14) Israel Denies Palestinians Freedom of Movement

    The Interim Agreement compels both sides to “respect[] and preserv[e] without obstacles, normal and smooth movement of people, vehicles and goods within the West Bank, and between the West Bank and Gaza Strip.” (Interim Agreement, Annex I, Article 1 .

    In contravention of these obligations, Israel has repeatedly imposed severe restrictions on the movement of persons, vehicles and goods through the establishment of more than 120 checkpoints in the West Bank alone, (dividing the West Bank into 64 cantons) and through Israel’s destruction of Palestinian roads and bridges.

    15) Israel Fails to Prosecute Israeli Settlers for Crimes Committed Against Palestinians

    Under the Interim Agreement, Israel is required to prosecute Israelis for crimes committed against Palestinians (Annex I, Articles 2 and 3). Since the signing of the Interim Agreement, there have been hundreds of attacks against Palestinians and Palestinian property. Since October 2000 alone, 44 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli settlers, and there have been hundreds of attacks on Palestinian property. Israel has not prosecuted ANY of these settlers for their crimes.”

    • seafoid
      September 23, 2013, 3:52 pm

      Thanks for the list, American.

      Israel is a joke at this stage. Bad faith isn’t going to get it a permanent free pass, even if the bots expect the L’Oreal effect forever.

  8. Blaine Coleman
    September 23, 2013, 12:58 pm

    Marc,

    Your 3-state reality is not inevitable, if the Palestinians can make their voices heard more loudly. In this country, that means a loud demand for boycott against Apartheid Israel. Since the labor unions cover barely 10% of the nation and are unconcerned with interntional solidarity, the civil rights and Black Power Movements are gone, the Chicano movement as we remember it is gone, that leaves only one spark plug for Boycott-Israel resolutions.

    That spark plug is thousands of Arab American students on hundreds of North American campuses. Once they are publicly seen to demand Boycott-Israel resolutions on their campuses and beyond, then you can stop “Israel” from exterminating the last vestiges of Palestine.

    Is it really so hard to demand boycott against Israel, to the maximum extent allowed by law? The Wayne State University student council voted for total divestment against Israel 10 years ago.

    Where is the first student government to pass the same kind of resolution this semester?

    • Walid
      September 23, 2013, 3:06 pm

      “That spark plug is thousands of Arab American students on hundreds of North American campuses.”

      Blaine, there are 70,000 Saudi students currently enrolled in US colleges, the 4th largest group among foreigners that total about 800,000 students. But for almost every Saudi is enrolled in the US or anywhere else in the world, the kingdom pays 100% of the total college cost, the living allowance, pocket money and a modest car. I don’t think those Saudis are about to bite the hand that feeds them.

      http://www.arabnews.com/news/451890

      • Blaine Coleman
        September 23, 2013, 3:27 pm

        Thanks, Walid,

        Of course any and all students who hate racism should be enthused about a campaign to boycott Israel on campus. Those who decline are missing out on the experience of a lifetime, a real human rights movement that will benefit the planet in a big way.

        I think that’s worth more than a modest car. Or even an immodest car.

        So I hope students will think hard before resigning themselves to the life of a sheep (or a wolf).

      • RoHa
        September 23, 2013, 10:18 pm

        Blaine said “Arab American”, which I suspect means “Americans of Arab ancestry”.

  9. benedict
    September 23, 2013, 5:48 pm

    I don’t think a tiny land-locked Palestinian state is economically viable or to the best interests of its citizens. Some kind of an arrangement involving Israel, Jordan and Egypt is inevitable.

    • Annie Robbins
      September 23, 2013, 6:08 pm

      it’s not landlocked, gaza is part of palestine.

      • benedict
        September 23, 2013, 7:38 pm

        True enough. But getting from WB to gaza will require some arrangement with Israel.

        Perhaps building the famed “sea canal” between the med and dead or perhaps continuing with the proposed dead to red cannel. My point is that all talk about “independent” Palestine is naïve, wrong, impractical, contrary to the needs of average Palestinians. Regardless of its future Palestine will always be deeply connected to its surrounding country’s.

      • OlegR
        September 24, 2013, 10:58 am

        As much as it’s part of Egypt .
        Just draw the line

    • seafoid
      September 24, 2013, 10:10 am

      Israel made sure it wouldn’t be economically viable.
      And the people there are not citizens of anywhere.
      Good old apartheid.

  10. James Canning
    September 23, 2013, 6:19 pm

    Danon apparently is willing to destroy Jordan, so Israel can keep more of the West Bank.

    • OlegR
      September 24, 2013, 11:00 am

      Who said anything about destroying.
      He was simply talking about Jordan transforming from Bedouin minority ruled autocracy into a democratic Palestinian state for all it’s citizens.
      Surely you can’t object to that.

      • Woody Tanaka
        September 24, 2013, 11:27 am

        “He was simply talking about Jordan transforming from Bedouin minority ruled autocracy into a democratic Palestinian state for all it’s citizens.”

        It’s not a Palestinian state. You racist ethnic cleansers want to pretend it is, so you can pursue your devilish ends, but it is not.

      • eljay
        September 24, 2013, 11:37 am

        >> He was simply talking about Jordan transforming from Bedouin minority ruled autocracy into a democratic Palestinian state for all it’s citizens. Surely you can’t object to that.

        If Jordan isn’t already a secular, democratic and egalitarian Jordanian state – a state of and for all its Jordanian citizens, equally – that’s what it needs to transform itself into.

        Similarly, since Israel is most definitely not a secular, democratic and egalitarian Israeli state – a state of and for all its Israeli citizens, equally – that’s what it needs to transform itself into.

        Neither state needs to transform itself into a Palestinian state.

        Surely you don’t object to that.

      • seafoid
        September 24, 2013, 12:05 pm

        Why not change Cyprus from Orthodox majority to Jewish majority, Oleg? Cyprus is lovely, Nobody would say a peep.

      • OlegR
        September 24, 2013, 6:01 pm

        Cause the Turks already tried to change it to Muslim majority and even partly succeeded .

    • Walid
      September 24, 2013, 11:50 am

      “Danon apparently is willing to destroy Jordan, so Israel can keep more of the West Bank.”

      I doubt Israel would destroy Jordan; it needs it to pick up the table scraps after its lust for land would be satiated. And in time, Jordan wouldn’t have any other choice but to do it.

      • James Canning
        September 25, 2013, 7:56 pm

        Annexing parts of WB would destroy Jordan.

  11. libra
    September 23, 2013, 7:36 pm

    Professor Ellis: With the window on the Two State solution already closed, the Three State solution seems absurd. 

    Surely the more absurd a scheme the better its prospects in the Israel of today? And if one state is so frightening then why stop at just three states? After all, if Switzerland can shoehorn 26 cantons into roughly twice the area of I/P, then surely a four state solution must be on the cards. And with all those crazy religious settlers running amok, I can’t imagine it will be too long before the Secular State of Tel Aviv breaks away.

    But four states should only be seen as start. Indeed with the rapid progress in Israeli genetic science, I think it will soon be possible to allocate every Israeli to one of the original twelve tribes. Add in the Philistines and a thirteen-state solution is the likely end-point. Half the number of Swiss cantons in half the space. It makes perfect sense. And you read about it first on Mondoweiss.

  12. iResistDe4iAm
    September 23, 2013, 11:24 pm

    In 1951, the South African Apartheid regime formally imposed an 11-state solution by ‘magnanimously’ allocating 13% of South Africa’s land to form 10 bantustans for the country’s indigenous population.

    Excluding the 43% of the West Bank that is off-limits to Palestinians (reserved for Jewish-only settlements/councils and roads, closed military bases and zones, Israeli declared nature reserves, areas cut off by separation wall, etc), leaves Palestinians with only 13% of their original homeland. It’s ironic that this is equivalent to the 13% that the other Apartheid regime tried but failed to impose.

    This leads to the question — how many besieged, walled-in, ghettoized bantustans will the Palestinians be forced into before Israel ethnically cleanses them into Jordan and Egypt?

    In any case, some Palestinians have already adapted to the current paradigm. Mahmoud Abbas is the Chief Buthelezi of Israeli Apartheid in the “self-ruled” Area A which comprises 18% of the West Bank (equivalent to a mere 3.7% of historic Palestine).

    • seafoid
      September 24, 2013, 10:45 am

      If Israel ethnically cleanses the rest of the Palestinians that will be the ultimate fate of the Jewish presence in the Middle East.

      • Walid
        September 24, 2013, 11:58 am

        Those Islamic fundies that are multiplying like virus all over the ME, Asia and Africa have Israel as the number 1 target on their agenda. That’s one of the reasons Morsi and the Brothers were taken out, which gave Israel a temporary reprieve.

      • yrn
        September 24, 2013, 12:05 pm

        “Those Islamic fundies that are multiplying like virus all over the ME, Asia and Africa have Israel as the number 1 target on their agenda.”
        Walid you forgot to write that by Israel you don’t mean the Land and the People.

      • Walid
        September 24, 2013, 12:30 pm

        It goes without saying, yrn, but if it would make you feel better, these fundies go for everybody, and this could include Palestinian-Israelis.

      • Walid
        September 24, 2013, 12:17 pm

        Seafoid, these videos say it all and best of all, a Palestinian is saying them:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wad5h5K38ms

      • seafoid
        September 24, 2013, 12:38 pm

        She’s a legend.

        Strip out morality from Judaism and what’s left? Bagels, gefilte fisch and the IDF.

  13. Citizen
    September 24, 2013, 5:05 am

    It’s not “a Palestinian problem,”–it’s a Zionism problem, and the intellectual climate must change to recognize this reality–a response to Danon: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/09/201392482423393209.html

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