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Palestinian mountain climber Mohammed AlQadi reaches the top of the Alps , April 2014

Palestinian mountain climber Mohammed AlQadi reaches the top of the Alps , April 2014

A viral campaign seems to be gaining traction. Just yesterday Sheera Frenkel of Buzzfeed lectured Palestinians for allegedly forcing their children to celebrate the reported kidnaping of three Israeli teens:

Palestinians shouldn’t be posing kids like this.

What pose is that? Frenkel linked to a site showing photos of Palestinian children holding up three fingers, to denote the three teens. Max Fisher of Vox promptly retweeted her tweet.

 Palestinian mountain climber Mohammed AlQadi reaches the top of the Alps , April 2014

Palestinian mountain climber Mohammed AlQadi reaches the top of the Alps , April 2014

Well today Palestinian mountain climber Mohammed AlQadi woke up to find he was featured in media reports as part of a Palestinian campaign to “perpetuate their joy” over the reported kidnapping of 3 Jewish teens in the West Bank. The Israeli website Walla News echoed the claim: 3 fingers to hostages.

Assaf Fans flash 3 fingers (photo thetimes.co.uk)

Assaf Fans flash 3 fingers (photo thetimes.co.uk)

Just one problem with that. There are scores of photos of people making this three-fingered sign because it was the way folks supported singer Mohammed Assaf’s bid to become Arab Idol last year. Mohammed AlQadi put up three fingers for Assaf.

“The campaign is a celebration of the kidnapping by Hamas, who are being blamed for their disappearance,” states another site, “Vocativ” . Its report in War of Words Over Kidnapped Teens fingered AlQadi: 

The first campaign, which began to gain traction in the past 24 hours, is a celebration of the kidnapping by Hamas, who are being blamed for their disappearance.

….“Three [kidnapped] to set our prisoners free. Our love for Hebron,” wrote Mohammad AlQadi from France, holding three fingers and smiling to the camera.

 

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Fabricated posting of celebrated Palestinian mountain climber to promote smear campaign

There may be sympathy from Palestinians and their supporters over the report of  teen abductions, especially considering the release of Palestinian prisoners in past prisoner exchanges. However, a campaign featuring fabricated postings? And they picked the wrong guy.

Climber Mohammed AlQadi is a celebrated Palestinian peace activist. He’s got 120,000 followers on Twitter and is currently living in France and training to climb to the top of Mt.Everest to spread awareness of refugees.

AlQadi says he never wrote or posted any support for the abductions. He was supporting Assaf:

I spoke with AlQadi by Skype today and he told me. “I’m trying to help my country now so we share awareness about of Palestine by sharing real people speaking from Palestine. I’m using attention from my climbs to bring attention, working on these activities. I don’t want war or violence but justice for my people.

“Assaf made me famous, he shared a photo of me and thanked me and said he was proud of me. My dream is to climb Everest and share a message, to bring the plight of refugees all around the world.

“I don’t believe in violence because violence bring more violence, I’m trying to show the truth and I’m upset for how they use my photo.”

The athlete is justifiably upset. Writing here and here:

Im so mad coz an Israeli website take my photo that was taken 1 year ago to support Mohammad ASSAF ARAB IDOL And the 3 sign was mean vote for him on his number 3 .http://news.walla.co.il/?w=%2F%2F2756150 Today allot of friends send me link in Hebrew for a website showing that im with kidnapping people What I say im against kidnapping 5000 Palestinians I’m with justice And for the website who share my photo without asking I thinks thats fucking disgusting and disrespecting others Any way its time to end occupation And its time to stop the game made by Nataniaho to just destroy Palestinians more and more and till now no body say that I’m responsible of arresting 3 israelis so in my opinion its a film from shabak and the IDF to just destroy and destroy what they can and then they say we search about 3 israelis Realy WTF In this photo Arab idol Mohammad Assaf And Adventure Mohammad ALQADI Contacting Ynet, they removed his photo from group of photos they’ve published.

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Assaf, making the three finger sign to support contestant #3 on Arab Idol

Update from Phil Weiss: This piece initially stated that it was a “lie” and a “slander” that people were also making the three-finger signal to endorse the apparent abduction of the teens. I stuck that language in in editing, and it was erroneous, inasmuch as there is such a campaign. Apologies to Annie and to readers for my bad assumption.

Update from Annie Robbins: My sincere apologies to Fidaa Zaanin for initially using her photo in this article. As well as an appreciative nod to Farah.

Annie Robbins

Annie Robbins is Editor at Large for Mondoweiss, a human rights activist and a ceramic artist. She lives in the SF bay area. Follow her on Twitter @anniefofani

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  1. alfa on June 18, 2014, 1:20 pm

    Ziowood ? Hang a label on it. Orenwood?

  2. Woody Tanaka on June 18, 2014, 1:20 pm

    “Zionists, lying? I don’t believe it. They never lie!!” said no one, ever.

  3. just on June 18, 2014, 1:26 pm

    Ha! I just made the 3 finger support sign for Assaf numerous times while reading this! It’s easier than the Vulcan salute (live long and prosper fingers sign), one which I still use. I also use the two finger peace sign and occasionally both of the single digit signs.

    Thanks for exposing the mendacious nature of the hasbara world…that’s one greasy underbelly, indeed.

    • adele on June 18, 2014, 2:24 pm

      Just,
      When it comes to Israel I use the one-finger salute :-)

      Peace, over and out.

      • just on June 18, 2014, 2:56 pm

        {{adele}}

        Same right back atcha!

  4. Rusty Pipes on June 18, 2014, 1:30 pm

    Even worse, every person who claims to be signing “f” or signaling “OK” online will be revealed by ADL to be supporting Hamas’ alleged abduction — once again affirming the growth of anti-Semitism around the world.

  5. eljay on June 18, 2014, 1:45 pm

    Does this mean the number 3 is now officially anti-Semitic?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 18, 2014, 1:59 pm

      LOL!

      The pathological narcissism of Israelis and Zionists still never seeks to amaze me. Palestinian kids get kidnapped every other day and nobody gives a damn. 3 settlers go missing and the world stops in its tracks. Seriously, do they think the whole world is as obsessed with their precious ‘teens’ as they are? Get over yourselves. If you’re so worried about your sacred settlers, ask yourself why your own policeforce were too busy watching the World Cup to bother responding to their ’emergency call’.

  6. ritzl on June 18, 2014, 1:53 pm

    Wow. These past few weeks have really seamed (in the iceberg v. Titanic sense) any residual notion that Israel is operating within a mile of any shared human reality. From Oren’s “they may not even be dead” to this.

    My time of suspending disbelief that the world would be a better place if Israel didn’t exist is about at an end (iow there was always some small shred of hope for a positive net contribution to humanity). It’s become too intellectually exhausting to maintain even a sliver of an open mind given its, and its supporters’, fanatical, all-consuming, meticulous, scorched-earth pursuit of death, destruction, and deprivation at home and abroad. At every step of the way, they knowingly choose the wrong (i.e. most destructive possible) path.

    But you have to marvel at their boundless energy and creativity, even as they use it to alienate everyone everywhere.

    Keep up the great work, MW.

  7. Woody Tanaka on June 18, 2014, 1:55 pm

    “Palestinians shouldn’t be posing kids like this.”

    You’re right. The photos of Palestinians communicating with Zionists should only be showing one finger.

  8. talknic on June 18, 2014, 1:57 pm

    The the Zionist Movement‘s state will use anything to further its aims no matter how idiotic.

  9. munro on June 18, 2014, 2:06 pm

    typo in header…

  10. Zach S on June 18, 2014, 2:14 pm

    Nice try, Annie. A very nice try indeed, but it isn’t working.

    Check all the links on this page categorizing some of the three fingered salute pictures:

    http://www.israellycool.com/2014/06/17/more-palestinian-reactions-to-kidnapping-the-most-disturbing-of-all/

    And don’t forget this charming carton posted by the ‘collaborator’ Palestinian Authority:

    http://www.israellycool.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/rat-cartoon-550×399.jpg

    Or this one:
    http://www.alhayat-j.com/newsite/char.php

    Sure, some pictures of Palestinians making the three fingered salute probably got removed from context, especially if they were old. That was wrong for the media to report them. But it’s unconscionable for you and your publisher to deny the overwhelmingly positive reaction among the Palestinians to this kidnapping. They don’t deny their joy at the news, so why should you?

    By the way, I notice this website also hasn’t published Rania Khalek high-fiving your fellow travelers at Electronic Intifada on Twitter. Care to fill us in as to why?

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 18, 2014, 2:37 pm

      The writer on ‘israellycool.com’ (snigger!) admits that he doesn’t know the context of many – read any – of the photos he has published.

      • annie on June 18, 2014, 2:49 pm

        plus, he also writes “the photos were taken from Arab Facebook sites “, he should have written ‘alleged’ Arab Facebook sites, unless he is unaware it’s easy to fake a site or FB page and psyops operators do it all the time. this is likely an orchestrated campaign designed to sweep social media and pull people into it.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 18, 2014, 2:53 pm

        Does ‘israellynotverycool’ read Arabic? If not, how does he know the context?

        ”this is likely an orchestrated campaign designed to sweep social media and pull people into it and the site is part of that now spreading unconfirmed rumors.”

        You’d almost think it had been planned in advance, wouldn’t you?

      • Zach S on June 18, 2014, 2:53 pm

        Autotranslation will help both of you.

        And Annie, I think Occam’s Razor would apply here. Which is more likely: that the IDF made fake Facebook pages using fake pictures of fake children dressed in fake Hamas-style clothing just so that some pro-Zionist blog could publish it? Or that the Palestinians have been following a decades-old pattern of cheering on the glorious “resistance?”

        And what of the cartoons? What do either of you have to say about that? Fake too, I imagine?

      • annie on June 18, 2014, 3:04 pm

        Which is more likely: that the IDF made fake Facebook pages using fake pictures of fake children dressed in fake Hamas-style clothing just so that some pro-Zionist blog could publish it? Or that the Palestinians have been following a decades-old pattern of cheering on the glorious “resistance?”

        which is more likely, that military intel (both US and Israel) use faux socialmedia accounts to promote their agenda or not.

        and btw, both can be true. there’s nothing wrong with Palestinians’ “decades-old pattern of cheering” on the resistance!

        plus, there are literally thousands of photos of people using that sign to support voting for assaf week after week after week. so all those photos of children holding the thumb and forefinger in a circle? unlikely all of those are from this campaign.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 18, 2014, 3:08 pm

        ”Autotranslation will help both of you.”

        Computer translations of Arabic to English are always terrible.

        ”Which is more likely: that the IDF made fake Facebook pages using fake pictures of fake children dressed in fake Hamas-style clothing just so that some pro-Zionist blog could publish it?”

        WTF is ‘Hamas style clothing”? And I’ve clicked on a few of those photos. The only comments are in English from ‘israelycool’ types. And the ‘photo albums’ contain only one photo. Does this sound authentic to you?

        ”And what of the cartoons? What do either of you have to say about that? Fake too, I imagine?”

        The AlHayat ones don’t seem particularly offensive to me, but I’m of course aware of the selective sensitivities of Zionists. The other one is unsourced.

      • annie on June 18, 2014, 3:12 pm

        maximus, those AlHayat cartoons are by Palestinian cartoonist Mohammad Saba’aneh http://mondoweiss.net/2013/04/palestinian-cartoonist-sentenced.html

        he’s a great cartoonist, which is why israel imprisoned him.

      • Zach S on June 18, 2014, 3:22 pm

        The AlHayat ones don’t seem particularly offensive to me, but I’m of course aware of the selective sensitivities of Zionists. The other one is unsourced.

        I never said the cartoons were offensive, I said that they were examples of the overwhelmingly positive reaction within even “moderate” Palestinian society to this latest war crime committed on their behalf.

        Here is another cartoon, just in case you’re still confused and think the gesture is “pro-Assad” or “pro-Assaf” or any of the other excuses you guys are so good at churning out:

        http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2014/06/three-e1403087403190-595×357.jpg

      • annie on June 18, 2014, 3:27 pm

        examples of the overwhelmingly positive reaction

        #fail

        there is nothing “overwhelmingly positive” about those cartoons.

      • Woody Tanaka on June 18, 2014, 3:12 pm

        “And what of the cartoons? What do either of you have to say about that?”

        Who the hell cares?? Israel’s spend 75 years torturing these people and making their lives a living hell and you care about a god damned cartoon??? What is wrong with you?

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 18, 2014, 3:18 pm

        LOL! When Muslims got into a tizzy over Danish cartoons they were out-of-control fanatics, but when Zionists do so it’s because they’re oh-so-senstive and in mourning over their precious settler students.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 18, 2014, 3:29 pm

        ”I never said the cartoons were offensive,”

        So what’s the problem then?

        ‘I said that they were examples of the overwhelmingly positive reaction within even “moderate” Palestinian society to this latest war crime committed on their behalf.”

        I didn’t see any ‘positive reaction’ in the one sourced cartoon you posted.

        And please stop making stuff up. It’s been almost a week since your sacred students went missing. No claim of responsibility. No ransom demand. In short, no evidence of a war crime. But hey, feel free to exploit your beloved ‘boys’ if it serves a purpose.

        ”Here is another cartoon,”

        Entirely unsourced. Do you work for MEMRI, by any chance?

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 18, 2014, 5:22 pm

        Seems the cartoon Zach linked to via ‘Times of Israel’ is taken from Al Raya, a Qatari newspaper.

        Zach was so keen to demonise ”Palestinian society” that he couldn’t be bothered to do a bit of research. But then, all those Ayrab ragheads are the same, aren’t they?

      • annie on June 18, 2014, 3:16 pm

        the cartoon at the israellycool.com link is subject to interpretation. the way i read it, a soldier (probably IOF, symbolizing the goi) is dangling these 3 teens, symbolized as lab rats, in front of the world stage.

        it’s harsh, but there are probably lots of people who don’t see these events the way the media has presented them. it could also be interpreted differently.

      • Zach S on June 18, 2014, 3:24 pm

        Annie, leaving aside your clutching at straws about the “interpretation” of the cartoon, the fact that Palestinians are depicting Jews as rats at all should give you cause to stop and reevaluate. That’s called dehumanization, and if an Israeli depicted an Arab that way it would be front page news on Mondoweiss for weeks. So spare us the hypocrisy and the apologia.

      • annie on June 18, 2014, 3:32 pm

        i’m not clutching anything, i’m busting you. responding to you is too simple. there’s nothing “overwhelmingly positive” in your links, in fact i called it harsh. that’s a far cry from deliberate fabrication of false social media.

        you want to make a point, your buddies want to make a point about palestinian “celebration” as the WB is on lockdown and hundreds of people are probably being tortured right now? go ahead, but don’t use fabricate images. i’m done chatting with you.

        p.s. don’t try reposting cartoons and links of yours we’ve already published in this thread. it’s called thread spamming and they will continue to be deleted. we’re not obligated to post every single comment in your damage control agenda. try addressing the topic.

      • Zach S on June 18, 2014, 3:50 pm

        there’s nothing “overwhelmingly positive” going on here,…

        Can you please show me one Palestinian Facebook post, news statement, editorial, op-ed piece, etc., criticizing this kidnapping? If there are none, then “overwhelmingly positive” is what we can conclude.

        go ahead, but don’t use fabricate images. i’m done chatting with you.

        Goodbye. And I have fabricated no images.

        don’t try reposting cartoons and links

        Very well, I will not.

    • annie on June 18, 2014, 2:58 pm

      “collaborator”

      who are you quoting?

      I notice this website also hasn’t published Rania Khalek high-fiving your fellow travelers at Electronic Intifada on Twitter.

      ha! because we’re everywhere all the time! i don’t even know what you’re talking about or why Rania Khalek shouldn’t high5 E1. it’s a great site.

      Check all the links

      all 3 of them? to FB pages? i’m completely unimpressed.

      • Zach S on June 18, 2014, 3:06 pm

        who are you quoting?

        The many people who believe that the PA collaborates with Israel to repress the Palestinian people.

        i don’t even know what you’re talking about…

        No problem, I’m happy to educate a professional journalist about what her ideological brethren are doing. That being said, I apologize that I got the name of the cheerleader wrong. It’s Rana Baker, not Rania Khalek. Here are screencaps of some tweets Rana made:

        http://www.algemeiner.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/RanaGaza1.jpg

        As you can see, she wasn’t praising EI for being a “great site,” she was praising the fact that “three settlers” (only one of them is a settler) had been kidnapped. Real classy. Highly moral. A great example of pro-Palestinian activism today.

        (In contrast, I have never seen Zionists cheering for the suffering of Palestinian children. Not even the most right-wing.)

        all 3 of them? to FB pages? i’m completely unimpressed.

        If you click on the first link, you will find it categorizes more then twenty Arab Facebook pages. Do the research Annie, I thought you were a journalist.

      • annie on June 18, 2014, 3:23 pm

        In contrast, I have never seen Zionists cheering for the suffering of Palestinian children.

        really? i guess you missed the throngs of cheering crowds on jerusalem day screaming “death to arabs”. or don’t you think that amounts to suffering for palestinian children.

        btw, for the extra clueless amongst us, it’s about a 1000 times more likely rana was cheering over the idea palestinians would have bargaining power to release palestinian prisoners, which is something any fool would support, than “the suffering of children”.

        she was praising the fact that “three settlers” (only one of them is a settler) had been kidnapped.

        typing “the fact” in front “kidnapped” will not make it a fact. even http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/16/world/meast/west-bank-jewish-teens-missing/

        Israeli soldiers have so far detained more than 150 Palestinian suspects in the search for three teenagers who Israel says were kidnapped, the military announced Sunday.

        information is only as good as it’s source. the israeli government lies with impunity, constantly. bad source to trust on anything.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 18, 2014, 3:26 pm

        He must also have missed the photos of Israelis sitting in deckchairs on a hill top, observing the slaughter in Gaza through their binoculars.

      • Zach S on June 18, 2014, 3:48 pm

        i guess you missed the throngs..

        I stand by what I said. I have never seen Zionists cheering at the news of Palestinian children suffering.

        t’s about a 1000 times more likely rana was cheering over…

        Rana is an intelligent human being who writes for a living. If she has an opinion, she is more than capable of expressing it on her own. She doesn’t require you to interpret for her, so please don’t presume to do so. It’s incredibly condescending.

        typing “the fact” in front “kidnapped” will not make it a fact.

        Rana believes that they were kidnapped and that’s what she was celebrating. If it’s good enough for her, it’s good enough for me, and should be good enough for you.

      • a blah chick on June 18, 2014, 4:15 pm

        Zach is just perpetrating the whole “dancing on the rooftops” schtick. Remember that one? When the dastardly Palestinians celebrated the scuds landing on TA. I have yet to see an actual Palestinian dancing on his or her rooftop for any reason.

      • annie on June 18, 2014, 4:42 pm

        Rana is an intelligent human being who writes for a living. If she has an opinion, she is more than capable of expressing it on her own. She doesn’t require you to interpret for her, so please don’t presume to do so. It’s incredibly condescending.

        iow, it is condescending for you to write she’s celebrating “cheering for the suffering”

        thanks for clearing that up.

        “I have never seen Zionists cheering at the news of Palestinian children suffering.”

        White Shirts in Jerusalem cry ‘Butcher the Arabs’

      • SQ Debris on June 19, 2014, 1:10 pm

        Honestly Annie. Why engage this Zach o’ S..t? His spew is a […] attempt to suck up some of your finite life force. On to more productive endeavors!

      • on June 18, 2014, 3:39 pm

        The only Facebook page I have seen is the Israeli one calling for killing a Palestinian every hour.

      • Zach S on June 18, 2014, 6:04 pm

        Giles, I didn’t find that one. I found one that calls for killing a terrorist every hour, but I don’t see “terrorist” and “Palestinian” as interchangeable. Apparently you do.

      • Kay24 on June 18, 2014, 6:06 pm

        Annie’s link shows a blood thirsty bunch, full of hatred. If these were Palestinians, zioland will be full of outrage, and Bibi might have tweeted about this, showing just much poor Israelis are hated, and how dangerous it is to live next door to this pack of wolves. Ugly show of hatred.

      • Mooser on June 19, 2014, 2:43 am

        “(In contrast, I have never seen Zionists cheering for the suffering of Palestinian children. Not even the most right-wing.)”

        Wow, you are pathetic.

      • Taxi on June 19, 2014, 3:35 am

        Mooser!

        I trust that you’ll now be punishing your pup every time he gives you the A-Okay sign.

        (Regards to you, the missus, and the pup!)

    • Woody Tanaka on June 18, 2014, 3:06 pm

      Let’s see, you occupy, torture and murder them and steal their land for three generations and you have the gall, the unmitigated gall to complain when they’re joyful when something bad happens to you??? How self-absorbed are you people?

      What do you expect? “Oh even though you murdered my son when you stole the land where the settlement was built, arrested dozens of my family with no reason and have destroyed my life but let me cry floods of tears because three Jewish kids are missing?”

      You’re arrested hundreds of them, broken into their homes, interrupted their lives, assaulted them en masse and you have the guts to be offended that they take a picture holding up three fingers??? You should be ashamed of yourself, but you bastards don’t seem capable of that emotion.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius on June 18, 2014, 3:24 pm

        Don’t you get it?

        The world revolves around Israelis and their ‘sensitivities’.

        They can arrest people by the hundreds, cut off entire towns, harrass women and children, kill and injure protesters but……… if anyone dares to be less than mournful over the ‘kidnapping’ of their precious settlers, then they’re no better than Hitler.

    • on June 18, 2014, 3:38 pm

      Wow Zach. You are a true believer. The Zionists can get you to believe any lie they tell. “..the overwhelmingly positive reaction among Palestinians to this kidnapping”. We do not know there was a kidnapping and there has been no overwhelmingly positive reaction by the Palestinians. They are too busy trying to avoid getting their heads busted by the heroes of the IDF. You suffer from severe projectionism; it is the racist Jews of Israel who wallow in the suffering of the Palestinians, going to watch assaults on Gaza as if they were movies.

  11. Kay24 on June 18, 2014, 2:18 pm

    The zionists are becoming more and more ridiculous, and seems less and less rational.

    “A lie will go round the world sooner than the truth can tie its shoes:”

    Especially a lie that is started by a very devious source, and is picked up and transmitted by the media it controls. These poor Palestinians do not have the platform, nor the ability to defend themselves. The is zionist BS and we know it.

  12. Justpassingby on June 18, 2014, 2:30 pm

    Cry me a river Sheera Frenkel.

    Typical brainwashed youth.

  13. ritzl on June 18, 2014, 2:34 pm

    So how many fingers am I holding up, crazy Israel supporters?

  14. concernedhuman on June 18, 2014, 2:43 pm

    Lovely!!
    There was an article about this on JPost where a kid was shown showing three fingers and the head line said its about “Three schalits”.
    Thanks Annie for bursting their lies .

  15. Taxi on June 18, 2014, 3:36 pm

    By crumbs of Jesus! Zionism is utterly lost in upsidedownism: the A-Okay sign is now the symbol for terrorism:
    https://www.google.com.lb/search?q=okay+hand+sign&client=firefox-a&hs=LFM&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=0NihU_D-IoLfPeXhgaAP&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1173&bih=615

    Yeah ziobots, go ahead, go ahead and criminalize the A-Okay sign. See where that getsyaz! And while you’re at it, why don’t you write yourselves a book called ‘How To NOT Make Friends And NOT Influence People’. Heck I’d love to find that book in my christmas stocking some day!

    *Pssssst… the PR ain’t working: even the majority of yahoonews readers commenting on the teen settlers’ numerous articles aren’t buying the kidnapping angle – they think it’s isreal’s vengeful hate at Palestinian unity – they think it’s a false flag op – they’re asking for evidence of kidnapping – they’re saying we have thousands of ‘missing’ kids in America and we sure don’t hear about them on CNN – they’re saying ‘missing’ is not necessarily kidnapped – they’re calling Netanyahu a liar, they’re calling him a warmonger – they’re saying israel is the boy that cried wolf…. My-my how the scene is fast changing… Man! How did it ever get so bad?! Hasbara as Cantor and Cantor as Humpty Dumpty and all three had a great fall inside a week and before the eyes of… the whole internet.

    I sure hope this absurd story of ‘The Evils Of The Three Fingers’ spreads across the globe like wildfire. It’s a fine example of how utterly unhinged the israeli egocentric universe really is.

    I’ve seen dead people and I’ve seen mad people and I can tell you that madness
    looks to be a state by far worse than death.

    • annie on June 18, 2014, 4:55 pm

      *Pssssst… the PR ain’t working: even the majority of yahoonews readers commenting on the teen settlers’ numerous articles aren’t buying the kidnapping angle – they think it’s isreal’s vengeful hate at Palestinian unity – they think it’s a false flag op – they’re asking for evidence of kidnapping – they’re saying we have thousands of ‘missing’ kids in America and we sure don’t hear about them on CNN – they’re saying ‘missing’ is not necessarily kidnapped – they’re calling Netanyahu a liar, they’re calling him a warmonger –

      yeah, i have been reading this lots of places.

      and after oren trying to push off on national tv (with the help of wolf blitzer) the nakba murders were fabricated – – – it’s fair game. show us the evidence of a kidnapping because i am as likely to believe those teens are sitting around playing video games and eating popcorn in the basement of some settlement housing while palestine and palestinians get thrashed.

      • a blah chick on June 18, 2014, 8:05 pm

        I’m with you, Annie. Every millimeter of that killing footage was analyzed. He fell forward, he fell back, look, let’s circle where the bullet is. It was disgusting. And then Oren has the temerity to suggest that the kids weren’t dead. Sure, Mick, living it up with the Dura boy and Tupac.

        I just want to live long enough to see the perp walks.

      • Kay24 on June 19, 2014, 7:44 am

        It shows just how indifferent they are to the deaths of Palestinians, even dismissing it as a “Paliwood show”, and how much they overreact and exaggerate a situation concerning their own. I am disgusted that the world just watches, wrings it’s hands and does nothing to help.
        The Palestinians need help right now.

    • just on June 18, 2014, 5:17 pm

      Thanks to the internets, Israel’s age- old game is up. They expose themselves to a lot more people every single day.

      The days of scripted news and hasbara are over. I’ve seen hasbarists disappear from sites like the wapo– poof, gone! The moment they try to post bs, they get called out. Their dwindling crowd of supporters then tries half- heartedly to mount a defense of the troll, and end up with the same result.

      Poof!

    • RoHa on June 18, 2014, 7:43 pm

      A bit off-topic, but at my age a few rambling, pointless, reminiscences are par for the course.
      I was teaching a mixed nationality class, and we were discussing rude gestures. I pointed out that two fingers, back of the hand, was very rude in Britain and Australia. A couple of Brazilian students told us that the finger and thumb “perfect” sign means “you arsehole” in Brazil. (And that when this gesture is used in American films it causes great hilarity in Brazilian cinemas.)

      Later in the class, one of the Brazilians indicated “two”, with his hand the wrong way round. I said,”Ah, ah. Turn your had round.”
      He did. I said,”Perfect”, with the gesture.

      • eljay on June 18, 2014, 9:45 pm

        >> RoHa @ June 18, 2014 at 7:43 pm

        That was an excellent anecdote! :-)

      • Woody Tanaka on June 19, 2014, 10:07 am

        RoHa:

        Finishing up the Pacific War from the now-closed thread:

        If it makes you feel better, MacArthur’s legacy here in the US is a decidedly mixed bag. For what it’s worth, I think he had some leadership skills, no doubt, but he was an absolute horse’s ass. He repeatedly in his life acted in a way that anyone would see was likely to tick people off, and he seemed to do it anyway.

      • DaBakr on June 19, 2014, 1:50 pm

        have no idea if you screen name is indicative of your ethnic origins but MacArthur was certainly, as you say, a “horse’s ass” from an American perspective which in many ways, I suppose is what counts. But looking at him through the eyes of the Japanese circa post WW2 and how he dealt with this ‘conquered’ nation makes him extraordinary in the view of many historians. In other words-he was more of a failure as a soldier but as an ‘imperial regent’ taking a nation from defeat into modernization, he was the right choice. His own vanity did him in, and yes, he certainly did “tick” off Truman.

      • RoHa on June 19, 2014, 8:06 pm

        Astonishingly, I agree with you on that assessment, DaBakr, except for
        (a) the “is what counts” bit. His achievement as imperial regent is more important than whether Americans or Australians like him.
        (b) “taking a nation from defeat into modernization” Japan was already modernized. That is why the country was such a formidable force.

  16. Cliff on June 18, 2014, 9:21 pm

    @zio fascist zach s

    You began your hate speech by pushing the lie that the Palestinian climber and his fans were supporting the kidnapping.

    The three finger gesture has been proven to be a support symbol for the Arab Idol winner Mohammed Assaf.

    So you proceed to filibuster and throw up a word salad about supposed Palestinian support for the kidnapping of those settlers.

    You have no demographic scale proof.

    There are plenty of examples of Israelis cheering on the butchering of Palestinian children – not to mention Israelis butcher Palestinian children when they please. And they do so with impunity.

    You have not suffered even a fraction of what the Palestinians have suffered.

    These three kidnapped settlers are simply a way for you to indulge in your antisemitic self-glorification.

    You are not a victim. You are not special.

  17. kalithea on June 18, 2014, 11:22 pm

    Is this tantamount to slander? It’s smear and a gross misrepresentation of the truth.

  18. Trev on June 19, 2014, 6:06 am

    Here’s another dimension to the Three fingered sign as reported in RT at the start of June.

    http://rt.com/news/163280-hunger-games-salute-thailand/

    I wonder if the Zios will now be calling Hunger Games ‘Anti Semitic’?

  19. eljay on June 19, 2014, 7:44 am

    >> I wonder if the Zios will now be calling Hunger Games ‘Anti Semitic’?

    Sure they will, and not just because the people of Panem are supposedly cheering the disappearance of three Jews. Y’see, Panem is the “Muslim/Arab world”, full of dirty people who want nothing more than to wipe the “Jewish State” Capitol – the only “beacon of light” in Panem – off the map (and push it into the sea). There’s no way the movie franchise can be anything but anti-Semitic!

    • DaBakr on June 19, 2014, 1:53 pm

      But I thought it was ‘zionists’ that control hollywood and everything that comes out of there? how does that work?

      • eljay on June 19, 2014, 4:53 pm

        >> But I thought it was ‘zionists’ that control hollywood and everything that comes out of there?

        What a terribly anti-Semitic thing to say!

  20. Henry Norr on June 19, 2014, 12:59 pm

    I’m no fan of Sheera Frenkel, to say the least, but it’s only fair to note that after linking to that “Israellycool” site, she followed with an article entitled “Palestinian Wakes Up To Find His Innocent Facebook Photo Used As Symbol Of Anti-Israel Hate Campaign,” exposing the misuse of the year-old photo of Mohammed AlQadi.
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/sheerafrenkel/palestinian-wakes-up-to-find-his-innocent-facebook-photo-use

    Someone tweeted that Frenkel was just following Annie’s piece, but Frenkel claims she reported it first. Her article is timestamped 8:56 a.m. on June 18 (yesterday).

    • annie on June 19, 2014, 1:39 pm

      nope, frenkel published first. AlQadi was very vocal in his protest and it was all over twitter so it comes as no surprise she would be on top of it. however, i was not aware she had written about this the day before (phil had read it and added) nor had i read her (current) article before this was published. i was in skype conversation w/AlQadi when this was published, afterwards i read phil’s editorial additions (see update)and added AlQadi’s quotes.

  21. just on June 19, 2014, 4:41 pm

    “Almost 120 journalists from 27 different countries will participate next week in a Jewish media conference in Jerusalem, the first of a kind of Jewish journalists from the Diaspora in Israel in several decades.

    A delegation of about 30 journalists and representatives of all the leading Jewish newspapers from the United States will participate. Other participants include reporters and columnists from Jewish publications in Greece, Hong Kong, France, Australia, Britain, Ukraine, Russia, Azerbaijan, Moldova, Chile, Argentina, Mexico and Costa Rica.”

    http://jpupdates.com/2014/06/19/100-jewish-journalists-travel-jerusalem-conference-israels-image-jewish-media/

    Anyone invited and attending from MW? Will Max go? Enquiring minds and all that.

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