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This logic has been uttered by a prominent Israeli journalist: Mass shootings of Palestinians have saved their lives. Reporting from the sniper positions near the Gaza fence, Dan Margalit writes in his Hebrew-only Haaretz opinion (Saturday):

From this position, the events looked a bit different than from the Karni crossing near Nahal Oz. Now I am convinced, more than at the beginning of the fighting about 10 weeks ago, that the massive shooting at the beginning of the battles [sic] has saved many Palestinian lives, and of course, first and foremost, lives of Israelis.”

And just how does he get to the logic, that mass shooting of Palestinians is good for them (and of course, first and foremost for us, and despite the fact that no real “battles” have really occurred in these demonstrations)? Margalit elucidates:

“It is necessary to understand the tactic: The Palestinians raise a pillar of smoke in hope to cause the soldiers breathing difficulty. Under the cover of smoke and while the soldiers are busy defending themselves from it, the Palestinians hope to breach the fence, bypass the sniper positions, and to insert in to Israeli territory terrorists and children and handicapped. Breach of the fence and the setting up of a temporary Palestinian outpost upon Israeli soil within Green Line (pre-1967) territory would have caused an increased shooting in order to expel them and increased the number of killed. Perhaps the Hamas leadership is interested in this, but not the protesters. Have they despaired? It is unclear.”

So this is the scare scenario, which Margalit assumes: “terrorists and children and handicapped” would set up a temporary outpost. And what would happen then? We would have to massacre them, of course, like we’ve regularly done to “infiltrators” since the state was established. And who would want that? Do Palestinians just want to die? Apparently, Margalit even concedes that Palestinians generally don’t want to die. But Hamas wants them to. Hamas wants to use children and handicapped (and don’t forget medics too) as human shields – human cannon fodder – because they know Israeli soldiers can’t help massacring an outpost of Palestinian children and handicapped.

We’ve seen this logic before, the one that says that killing Palestinians is good for Palestinians – in the Shmuel Rosner massacre apologia in the pages of the New York Times. “I believe Israel’s current policy toward Gaza ultimately benefits not only Israel but also the Palestinians.”

It’s important to note, that Margalit is not a journalistic lightweight, and it is clear that Haaretz is not a lightweight outlet. Margalit’s recent engagement with Haaretz began exactly a year ago, just after he was fired from the Adelson funded Netanyahu-propaganda daily Israel Hayom. Margalit wrote for Israel Hayom since its founding in 2007. He was also chief editor for the centrist daily Maariv for a short period, and is a regular TV host on main Israeli channels. This is all to say, that this kind of commentary is not from an occasional right-wing fringe – it is centrist and central. And it’s in Haaretz – which is generally considered left.

One is perhaps left to assume, that Haaretz would be ashamed to publish such opinion on in its English version – such opinions could scare off liberal readers. But then again, when looking at a recent Margalit opinion in English titled “The Arabs chose to be refugees” (May 24th), one could have the impression that Haaretz hasn’t got that much shame after all. Here, Margalit peddles classical Zionist Hasbara saying that Palestinians chose to flee despite calls from Jewish leaders to stay, and so it’s all on them. In that piece Margalit also cheer leads the ideological assault against the UN refugee agency UNRWA and advocates its dismantling for supposedly perpetuating the Palestinian refugee problem.

But back to Margalit’s Hebrew piece, which is titled “From the position of the snipers, things look different: a visit to the dwindling protests at the border fence.”

Here, Margalit notably accentuates that every shot is fired precisely, “by order of a senior commander, and every bullet has a precise address.”

This message is reminiscent of the IDF tweet from the first day of protests within the Great March of Return (March 30th), where it claimed that “nothing was carried out uncontrolled; everything was accurate and measured, and we know where every bullet landed.” That day, 15 Palestinian protesters were killed. The army had immediately removed the tweet, apparently realizing what a damning admission this was. But B’tselem saved the screenshot.

Ali Abunimah in Electronic Intifada:

The army’s deletion of the tweet is hardly surprising. The admission that its killings of demonstrators were premeditated down to the last bullet means it cannot deny responsibility for apparent war crimes, such as the lethal shooting of Abd al-Fattah Abd al-Nabi, 19, as he ran away from the Israel-Gaza boundary fence. Abd al-Nabi was reportedly shot in the head. Video of the slaying, widely shared on social media, shows Abd al-Nabi running alongside two other Palestinians far away from the boundary fence when the crack of a gunshot is heard and he falls suddenly.”

So Margalit is peddling this “precision” notion. He repeats it in the piece:

“Not one lead bullet is fired without an explicit order.”

Nonetheless, there are exceptions, he qualifies:

“In the case of mortal danger, the soldiers are permitted to defend themselves according to their own judgement.”

One is thus left to wonder, whether 19 year old Al-Nabi was sniped by explicit command, or by the judgement of a soldier fearing that one day, Al-Nabi might hurl that tire hundreds of meters away towards the soldiers and cause their imminent death.

“But if that is not the case”, Margalit emphasizes, “the IDF shoots one bullet at a time, and every bullet has an address. The snipers aim towards the legs, and the Palestinians have begun to appear at the battle with metal sheets which serve as a protective for their knees. They too extract conclusions.”

Margalit also refers to incendiary kites:

“Across from Nahal Oz, kites have been seen in the skies for some hours. The Palestinians have improved their precision, and on their tails is more than one incendiary device. […] Vast areas of land have blackened in Nahal Oz, Kfar Aza and Nir Am. But some kites were fixed in the skies and not released. It’s a diversion attempt, a shrewd effort to distract the attention of the soldiers, although they do not pose a danger.”

Aye, Public Security (and Hasbara) minister Gilad Erdan has recently suggested that Israel apply “targeted assassinations” of those who fly kites. He said:

“The fact that Hamas is enabling the shooting and the sending of the kites means we must return to targeted assassinations, and the kite launchers and Hamas commanders should be targeted for killing.”

One is left to wonder whether children flying non-incendiary kites anywhere in Gaza will now be targeted – even if the kites are non-incendiary, they may be practicing to become “Hamas terror kite operatives”, or perhaps operators of “deception kites” meant to distract the soldiers. That could be just as bad.

Israeli playwriter Yehoshua Sobol talks about the kites in an interview in Maariv (Hebrew):

Interviewer: Do you identify with the those who fly incendiary kites?

Sobol: I tried to imagine myself as a kid in the Gaza strip, when my neighbors are wounded and killed. My relatives are returned home as handicapped or as perforated bodies, and I asked myself: ‘What would I do as a kid?’ And I answered: ‘I would fly an incendiary kite.’ I remember myself as a kid in the 1940’s in the Sharon (central coast area, Palestine). We flew kites. Not incendiary kites, because we were not in despair.”

But kites are not the main point of Margalit’s piece. The main scare scenario is the “temporary Palestinian outpost”, and Palestinians should be so happy that we don’t let them do it. Because then it would be much, much worse. We’d just massacre their handicapped and children (as if we don’t anyway).

Margalit notes that even Palestinians seem to be sensible enough to be hesitant, despite the Hamas calls:

“As I neared the fence, I heard the calls from the leaders towards the 2.500 Palestinians who had gathered in the Karni crossing zone, to storm the fence. I did not understand the words, but I heard the aggressive voice, and most Palestinians did not act according to the call – as those soldiers who sense how foolish it is to die on the last day of the war. Perhaps it is merely a wish of the heart.”

Margalit didn’t really understand what the leader was saying, but he is certain, from the “aggressive” tone of the voice, that this was a suicide order.

Perhaps it is but “a wish of the heart,” but Margalit knows what the plan is – a “temporary outpost” of children and handicapped on the Israeli side – which as we all know would be an imminent and existential danger, to which we would have to respond by massacring. This wouldn’t look good, but hey, we get away with it don’t we. Most of all it would be “foolish” for the Palestinian children and handicapped, because they would die just before their inevitable defeat.

The logic that “it could be much worse” is the one informing Margalit’s piece. And the idea that Israel is doing a great job at preventing it. This logic appeared yesterday two days ago in Haaretz in Gadi Taub’s piece “Why Western ‘Liberals’ So Easily Buy Into Hamas’ anti-Semitic Blood Libel.” Taub contends that live sniper fire is the only effective means of response to the Gaza protests, and repeats, like Margalit, that “permission to use it was given only by high-ranking officers, and instructions were to aim below the knee.” Then Taub hails the outcome:

“Those instructions were followed scrupulously, as can be seen from the outcome: The number of people killed on the day the U.S. Embassy was moved to Jerusalem, was 62… According to Haaretz, about 2,770 were wounded, of these an estimated 1,350 from live ammunition. This means that 95 percent of those hit by snipers were neutralized without being killed, despite the smoke, noise and pandemonium.”

That’s fantastic, isn’t it? We managed to kill only 62 protesters! That’s just 5%!

By the standards of Margalit et al, Palestinians should really just stop complaining, go home, recognize their defeat, and die quietly and slowly from their poisoned water (and soon maybe from Typhoid and Cholera).

And Haaretz publishes all this. Ah, I forgot to mention – Margalit ends his piece with a critique of Netanyahu. If you criticize Netanyahu, then you’re a ‘liberal’, and then you can say whatever you want.

H/t Yoav Litvin, Ofer Neiman, Ronit Lentin

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  1. just
    just
    June 12, 2018, 6:03 pm

    Thanks, Jonathan.

    I guess any Zionist can perch anywhere if he/she writes in Hebrew… I am disappointed that Haaretz gave him that perch from which to spew his warped and vile views. Perhaps Haaretz readers will rebel, or not.

    (Israel should invest in firefighters and give their snipers and other IOF goons something better to do than murdering Palestinians. I appreciate what Yehoshua Sobol had to say.)

    • Misterioso
      Misterioso
      June 13, 2018, 11:06 am

      @just, et al

      “From this position, the events looked a bit different than from the Karni crossing near Nahal Oz. Now I am convinced, more than at the beginning of the fighting about 10 weeks ago, that the massive shooting at the beginning of the battles [sic] has saved many Palestinian lives, and of course, first and foremost, lives of Israelis.”

      And this two-bit neo-Nazi fascist probably wonders why Jews around the world, especially youth, are increasingly divorcing themselves from Zionism, abandoning Judaism and choosing to assimilate. No surprise! Zionism is Judaism’s curse.

      To wit:

      https://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page//.premium-future-of-u-s-jews-keeps-me-up-at-night-israeli-minister-says-1.6172892

      “Future of U.S. Jews ‘keeps me up at night,’ Israeli minister tells Jewish gathering”

      “Naftali Bennett tells AJC conference that his main goal as diaspora affairs minister is ‘saving the Jews’ and warns of ‘losing millions of Jews to assimilation.'”
      By Judy Maltz | Jun. 12/18 – Haaretz.

      EXCERPTS:
      “Addressing the annual conference of the American Jewish Committee, he said: ‘If there’s one thing that keeps me up at night, it’s not Iran but the future of the Jews in America, and we have to fix this together.’”

      “’If we don’t act urgently, we’re going to be losing millions of Jews to assimilation,’ he told more than 2,400 AJC delegates from six continents around the globe who were attending the conference. It was the first time in its 112-year history that the AJC – one of the largest Jewish organizations in the world – held its large annual event outside the United States.

      “Diaspora Affairs Minister Naftali Bennett told a large Jewish gathering in Jerusalem on Tuesday that he feared for the future of the American-Jewish community because it was losing its connection to both Israel and Judaism.”

  2. JLewisDickerson
    JLewisDickerson
    June 12, 2018, 8:05 pm

    RE: But back to Margalit’s Hebrew piece, which is titled “From the position of the snipers, things look different: a visit to the dwindling protests at the border fence.”
    Here, Margalit notably accentuates that every shot is fired precisely, “by order of a senior commander, and every bullet has a precise address.”
    ~ Ofir

    SEE: “The Dogs of War: The Next Intifada”, By Uri Avnery, Counterpunch, 9/03/11

    (EXCERPT) . . . The second (“al-Aqsa”) intifada started after the breakdown of the 2000 Camp David conference and Ariel Sharon’s deliberately provocative “visit” to the Temple Mount. The Palestinians held non-violent mass demonstrations. The army responded with selective killings. A sharpshooter accompanied by an officer would take position in the path of the protest, and the officer would point out selected targets – protesters who looked like “ringleaders”. They were killed.

    This was highly effective. Soon the non-violent demonstrations ceased and were replaced by very violent (“terrorist”) actions. With those the army was back on familiar ground.

    All in all, during the second intifada 4546 Palestinians were killed, of whom 882 were children, as against 1044 Israelis, 716 of them civilians, including 124 children…

    ENTIRE COMMENTARY – http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/09/02/the-next-intifada/

    • JLewisDickerson
      JLewisDickerson
      June 12, 2018, 8:09 pm

      P.S. ALSO SEE: “Netanyahu: Stupid Like a Fox?”, By Uri Avnery, Antiwar.com, 06/13/11

      (EXCERPT) . . . Last week, there was a repeat performance. The Palestinians all around Israel have declared June 5 “Naksa” Day, to commemorate the “Setback” of 1967, when Israel spectacularly defeated the armies of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan, reinforced by elements from the Iraqi and Saudi armies.

      This time, the Israeli army was prepared. The fence was reinforced and an anti-tank ditch dug in front of it. When the demonstrators tried to reach the fence—again near Majdal Shams—they were shot by sharpshooters. Some 22 were killed, and many dozens were wounded. The Palestinians report that people trying to rescue the wounded and retrieve the dead were also shot and killed.
      No doubt this was a deliberate tactic decided upon in advance by the army command after the Naqba Day fiasco and approved by Benjamin Netanyahu and Ehud Barak. As was said quite openly, the Palestinians had to be taught a lesson they would not forget, so as to drive any idea of an unarmed mass action out of their minds.

      It is frighteningly reminiscent of events 10 years ago. After the first Intifada, in which stone-throwing youngsters and children won a moral victory that led to the Oslo agreement, our army conducted exercises in anticipation of a second Intifada. This broke out after the political disaster of Camp David, and the army was ready.

      The new Intifada started with mass demonstrations of unarmed Palestinians. They were met by specially trained sharpshooters. Next to each sharpshooter stood an officer who pointed out the individuals who were to be shot because they looked like ringleaders: “The guy in the red shirt… Now the boy with the blue trousers…”

      The unarmed uprising broke down and was replaced by suicide bombers, roadside bombs, and other “terrorist” acts. With those our army was on familiar ground.

      I suspect very much that we are witnessing much the same thing once more. Again, specially trained sharpshooters are at work, directed by officers…

      SOURCE – http://original.antiwar.com/avnery/2011/06/12/netanyahu-stupid-like-a-fox/

      • JLewisDickerson
        JLewisDickerson
        June 12, 2018, 8:20 pm

        P.P.S.ALSO NOTE:
        “Gaza Border Protests”
        By Yaniv Kubovich | Haaretz | Apr 29, 2018
        In response to petition filed by human rights groups, IDF says its directives ‘comply with Israeli and international law’

        [EXCERPT] The Israeli army refused to disclose the rules of engagement applying to the protests at the Gaza border, in response to a petition submitted to the High Court of Justice on April 15 by four human rights . . .

        SOURCE – https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israeli-army-refuses-to-disclose-open-fire-policy-for-gaza-protests-1.6035708

      • JLewisDickerson
        JLewisDickerson
        June 12, 2018, 8:40 pm

        RE: So this is the scare scenario, which Margalit assumes: “terrorists and children and handicapped” would set up a temporary outpost. And what would happen then? We would have to massacre them, of course, like we’ve regularly done to “infiltrators” since the state was established. And who would want that? ~ Ofir

        MY SNARKCASM: Yes indeedy*, who would want that?

        An Encore Performance:
        THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO AUNT LYDIA

        * Gene and Frankie singing “Yes Indeedy” (VIDEO, 03:19)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf-qHuFZojY

      • Jonathan Ofir
        Jonathan Ofir
        June 13, 2018, 2:51 am

        JLewisDickerson: “The guy in the red shirt… Now the boy with the blue trousers…” –
        almost identical text to the video which the snipers took, the one which went viral in April. Here, around 0:20, one can hear the commander pointing out ‘targets’ (Hebrew) – “the one in the pink”, he says. One sniper says “not the pink, I’m on the one with the blue” – just before the shot is heard and the motionless, unarmed protester flies.
        The Israeli army hass confirmed the video to be authentic, and to have been from December 22nd 2017. The army also confirmed that the soldiers acted “appropriately”.

        http://mondoweiss.net/2018/04/shooting-palestinian-celebrates/

      • Stephen Shenfield
        Stephen Shenfield
        June 13, 2018, 10:55 am

        The open fire regulations are classified as secret — to publish them would be a criminal offense — but many Israelis are familiar with them from their service in the IDF and some information about their content can be gleaned from the Israeli media, e.g. from TV and radio interviews with officers and former snipers. From such sources we know that ‘inciters’ can be killed (even if unarmed). There is no clear indication of how to identify an ‘inciter’ — he is someone who is ‘inflaming’ others. Many — perhaps most — of those killed in the recent protests, especially those killed at a long distance from the fence, were killed as ‘inciters’. This is one of the main points in the regulations that the human rights organizations were trying to get changed at the Supreme Court.

      • JLewisDickerson
        JLewisDickerson
        June 13, 2018, 8:13 pm

        RE: So this is the scare scenario, which Margalit assumes: “terrorists and children and handicapped” would set up a temporary outpost. And what would happen then? We would have to massacre them, of course, like we’ve regularly done to “infiltrators” since the state was established. And who would want that? ~ Ofir

        ANSWER TO “WHO WOULD WANT THAT?” — The “Iranian terror octopus” *, of course!

        * HAARETZ, 4/04/2018:

        [EXCERPT] . . . Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu responded on Wednesday to remarks made a day earlier by Iranian President Hassan Rohani attacking the United States and Israel for their roles in Syria.

        “There’s no end to the absurdity,” said the prime minister. “The Iranian terror octopus is accusing Israel of terrorism.” . . .

        SOURCE – https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/netanyahu-fires-back-at-rohani-over-supporting-terrorists-accusation-1.5976693

      • JLewisDickerson
        JLewisDickerson
        June 14, 2018, 9:39 pm

        RE: “The Gospel According to Aunt Lydia” – me (above)

        As Detention Centers Hit Capacity, Trump Eyes Tent Cities on Military Bases to Jail Migrant Children

  3. kev
    kev
    June 13, 2018, 1:25 am

    “Under the cover of smoke and while the soldiers are busy defending themselves from it, the Palestinians hope to breach the fence, bypass the sniper positions, and to insert in to Israeli territory terrorists and children and handicapped. Breach of the fence and the setting up of a temporary Palestinian outpost upon Israeli soil within Green Line (pre-1967) territory would have caused an increased shooting in order to expel them and increased the number of killed.”

    Okay, so… setting up an outpost on lands that do not belong to them, even if done by “children and handicapped”, even if “temporary”, allegedly is justification for “an increased shooting in order to expel them and increased [sic] the number of killed”. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, right? So Margalit should fully understand and support any attacks on Jewish settlers in the West Bank, right? Especially in the “unauthorized” and illegal outposts, yeah?

    Frickin’ hypocrite.

  4. Kay24
    Kay24
    June 13, 2018, 7:02 am

    It makes you wonder that if Israelis were under occupied, and Palestinian snipers shot dozens of them as they protested that occupation, if these pro occupation journalists and media personnel, would have written the same way, justifying the slaughter.
    You don’t have to wonder for long.

  5. eljay
    eljay
    June 13, 2018, 8:03 am

    … Margalit notably accentuates that every shot is fired precisely, “by order of a senior commander, and every bullet has a precise address.” …

    Whether it’s being sent “most morally” into the skull of a wounded and incapacitated not-Israeli in militarily-occupied not-Israel or the body of a female medic in besieged not-Israel, every “Jewish State” bullet has a precise address.

    • Stephen Shenfield
      Stephen Shenfield
      June 13, 2018, 11:07 am

      I don’t believe the claim that every shot is fired by order of a senior commander. There are not enough senior commanders there to exercise such close control. It is an utterly implausible claim. It is also inconsistent with accounts given in two TV interviews by former sniper Nadav Weiman (now working for Breaking the Silence). I think the claim is made to reassure Israelis who though they do not care about Palestinian lives do want the IDF to be disciplined and professional — a force effectively controlled by its senior commanders and ultimately by the ‘political echelon’. There is abundant evidence that at present the IDF is not such a force, and this is especially true of operations in Gaza.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        June 13, 2018, 4:40 pm

        “There is abundant evidence that at present the IDF is not such a force, and this is especially true of operations in Gaza.”

        That is a technique much used by colonial regimes. It allows responsibility to fall in the no-man’s-land between the politicians and the military.
        It can work as long as the out-of-control military is handing the regime fait accompli victories.

  6. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    June 13, 2018, 8:19 am

    This Fascist thug would have excelled as a concentration camp guard in 1930s and 1940s Germany. Has that “they are all Untermenschen mindset”. No doubt children playing football in the middle of the protest camps would have been fair game for the unbelievably moral Zionist IDF murderers if the dust they were kicking up , like the smoke , got into the eyes of the poor little innocent defenceless elite snipers.

    What a revolting piece of “humanity”.

  7. just
    just
    June 13, 2018, 11:16 am

    “Rights Group: Israeli Lethal Force in Gaza May Be War Crime …

    The statement was issued Wednesday ahead of an emergency UN General Assembly meeting to vote on a resolution condemning Israel’s ‘excessive use of force’

    Human Rights Watch said Wednesday that Israel’s use of lethal force against Palestinian demonstrators in the Gaza Strip in recent weeks may constitute war crimes. …

    The Israeli military has said its soldiers adhere to the rules of engagement to defend Israeli civilians and security infrastructure from attacks cloaked by the protests.

    Human Rights Watch contended in its statement that the mostly unarmed protesters didn’t pose an imminent threat to Israeli troops or civilians, and therefore the use of live fire suggests a violation of international law. The organization said eyewitnesses recounted Palestinians were shot from a great distance from the fence, and others who “had not thrown stones or otherwise tried to harm Israeli soldiers” were shot from a closer range.

    Israel has been accused of committing war crimes in its three wars in the Gaza Strip in the last decade. Last month the Palestinians urged the International Criminal Court in The Hague to launch an investigation into Israeli policies and actions in the West Bank, east Jerusalem and Gaza Strip, accusing Israel of systemic crimes.

    Israel has called the Palestinian move “legally invalid.” Israel is not a member of the ICC and argues the court does not have jurisdiction.

    The ICC has conducted a preliminary investigation since 2015 into alleged crimes in the Palestinian territories, including West Bank settlement construction and war crimes by Israel and Hamas in the 2014 war in Gaza.

    Human Rights Watch’s Mideast director called on the international community to “impose real costs for such blatant disregard for Palestinian lives.”

    “The UN Human Rights Council inquiry should identify and call for sanctions against officials implicated in ongoing serious human rights violations,” Sarah Leah Whitson said.”

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rights-group-israeli-lethal-force-in-gaza-may-be-war-crime-1.6174193?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    “MAY constitute war crimes”??? Bunch of cowards, all of them. HRW, ICC, EU, US, KSA, Gulfies, and too many others to list.

    All cowards who only believe the Isr narrative instead of the law and what carnage the murderous IOF leave, and have left, behind for decades now.

    (Anyone remember the Sharpeville massacre?)

  8. Stephen Shenfield
    Stephen Shenfield
    June 13, 2018, 11:21 am

    Jonathan Ofir has distorted what Margolit says about the hypothesized ‘temporary Palestinian outpost’. He says that such an outpost would consist of ‘terrorists and children and handicapped’ but Ofir omits ‘terrorists’. The fear among many Israelis is that if the barrier is breached lots of Palestinians would enter Israel and though most of them might be harmless a few may be armed militants intent upon killing and/or kidnapping Israelis. In that situation the IDF would massacre all of them, as even a slight danger to a single Jew is held to justify killing any number of Gentiles.

    • eljay
      eljay
      June 13, 2018, 8:51 pm

      || Stephen Shenfield: Jonathan Ofir has distorted what Margolit says about the hypothesized ‘temporary Palestinian outpost’. He says that such an outpost would consist of ‘terrorists and children and handicapped’ but Ofir omits ‘terrorists’. … ||

      Huh? Mr. Ofir writes:

      … Margalit elucidates:

      “ … the Palestinians hope to breach the fence, bypass the sniper positions, and to insert in to Israeli territory terrorists and children and handicapped. Breach of the fence and the setting up of a temporary Palestinian outpost upon Israeli soil within Green Line (pre-1967) territory would have caused an increased shooting in order to expel them and increased the number of killed. … ”

      So this is the scare scenario, which Margalit assumes: “terrorists and children and handicapped” would set up a temporary outpost. And what would happen then? We would have to massacre them …

      The outposts would consist of Hamas operatives (the “terrorists”) human-shielded by “children and handicapped”.

      • Sibiriak
        Sibiriak
        June 14, 2018, 12:02 am

        Eljay, you are correct about the “outposts” idea. Perhaps Stephen Shenfield was referring to this passage toward the end where “terrorists” is omitted, possibly inadvertently.

        …Margalit knows what the plan is – a “temporary outpost” of children and handicapped on the Israeli side – which as we all know would be an imminent and existential danger, to which we would have to respond by massacring. This wouldn’t look good, but hey, we get away with it don’t we. Most of all it would be “foolish” for the Palestinian children and handicapped because they would die just before their inevitable defeat

        Note: the phrase “most of all it would be foolish for the children and handicapped” implies they wouldn’t be the only ones there, which of course, would be absurd. Actually, the whole thing is absurd.

  9. Marnie
    Marnie
    June 13, 2018, 1:18 pm

    “The Palestinians raise a pillar of smoke in hope to cause the soldiers breathing difficulty. Under the cover of smoke and while the soldiers are busy defending themselves from it, the Palestinians hope to breach the fence, bypass the sniper positions, and to insert in to Israeli territory terrorists and children and handicapped.”

    Why do we keep listening to this crap? Every colonizer/occupier, who always has WMD at their disposal (which is what enables them to occupy in the first place, duh) act completely flabbergasted that those they occupy resist them and fight back! It’s not rocket science FFS and occupied people are expected to resist their occupiers,, not matter who they are. Jews don’t get special privileges as occupiers – they’re as bad or worse than any occupiers throughout history.

  10. dvered
    dvered
    June 13, 2018, 1:30 pm

    To present Dan Margalit as a journalist is an insult.
    At best he is an apologist on behalf of Zionist war crimes.

  11. oldgeezer
    oldgeezer
    June 13, 2018, 7:37 pm

    How stupid are Israelis? No seriously, just how stupid are they?

    I suspect not all that much but they create and suck up pure jingoistic propaganda like it’s koolaid

    “Under the cover of smoke and while the soldiers are busy defending themselves from it”

    Defend themselves from it? LOL… The israeli terrorists have never heard of a gas mask? The crime they commit is so debauched and despicable they feel the need to try to paint murderers as some sort of superhero.

    Avery

    “anti-tank ditch”

    Huh? Were they afraid Hamas were going to deploy their tank battalions or something?

    It was a ditch to create a killing zone should anyone get through the fence. Nothing more than a means to facilitate murder.

    ” The fence was reinforced ”

    Not merely reinforced. The israeli terrorists broached the so called sacrosanct border, invaded Gaza, and laid another fence well away from the border fence. Inside another country.

    The border is only inviolate in one direction and that’s because it’s not a border but a prison wall.

  12. Marnie
    Marnie
    June 14, 2018, 12:00 am

    “How stupid are Israelis? No seriously, just how stupid are they?”

    Stupid enough to keep electing netanyahoo. Stupid enough to go for bennet’s ‘no apologies’ campaign slogans. Stupid enough to believe in every shadow, around every corner, everywhere possible there lurks an antisemite ready to take them out. Stupid enough to believe ‘never again’ only pertains to them and to hell with all the rest. Stupid enough to believe that palestinian children are raised to be terrorist, but their children are raised to be defenders of the jewish supremacist state (remember there’s only one now and we’ve only taken back what God gave us 5000 years ago blah, blah, blah). Stupid enough to believe they are ‘chosen’ and therefore can do whatever they want to whomever they want for whatever reason they want, stupid enough to think if they give an interview in a geebrew (no one speaks hebrew imo, the closest original languages here are arabic and amharic) that it won’t be translated.

    However, they are just smart enough to understand that they have been able to get away with ethnic cleansing, murder, rape, theft of land, destruction of homes, robbery of another culture, re-foresting to obscure the villages that once stood, thrived, loved, laughed, cried and lived, and the ‘little thing called the rest of the world’ will continue to be complicit.

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