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Bari Weiss, the conservative NYT opinion page editor, is a romantic Zionist. She believes that Israel has united the Jewish people. Last night that passion overcame her when she said that “you better believe” that the leftwing non-Zionist Jewish group IfNotNow welcomed rightwing Israeli officials coming to Pittsburgh to express condolences in the wake of the Oct. 27 massacre at the synagogue — because all were expressing the unified spirit of Am Yisrael, the people of Israel.

IfNotNow has already rejected her absurd claim. 

Weiss’s comments came after Batya Ungar-Sargon of the Forward said on a panel in a New York temple last night that Israeli officials were “gaslighting” American Jews by flying into Pittsburgh and diverting blame from Donald Trump, when American Jews blame Trump, because American Jewish values are civil rights.

Bari Weiss then broke in.

Our values are other things other than civil rights, Batya. Our values are also the fact that we are alive for the Jewish return to political sovereignty– the idea that we would celebrate that! I’m sorry… — I was in Pittsburgh, I’m from that community, I spent the week there, I was bat mitzvah’ed in that synagogue. I could not tell you — even among the Jews who were showing up for IfNotNow and Bend the Arc and protesting Trump– you better believe they liked the fact that Ron Dermer and Naftali Bennett showed up in the same way that Israeli officials show up after the shooting of a Hypercacher in France.

It’s sending a message that we are all one, Am Yisrael [the people of Israel]. To politicize that I just think is wrong.

IfNotNow said today, “we were not grateful” to see Education Minister Naftali Bennett and ambassador Ron Dermer come to Pittsburgh. IfNotNow pointedly slammed Bennett at the time for his intolerance of refugees, attitudes it said the synagogue killer shared, and it said that Bennett does “not speak” for American Jews.

IfNotNow is deadset against the Israeli occupation and Trump’s policies on refugees. It is even more critical than Ungar-Sargon of Bennett and Dermer, both of whom sought to use the Pittsburgh massacre to demonize support for Palestinians.

Weiss’s need/desire to unify the Jewish community around the suffering in Pittsburgh obviously has a political component, despite her view that the event should not be politicized. We should all be Zionists and rejoice in Jewish sovereignty in Israel. Her comments last night often had this emotional appeal, for instance when she called on Israel to abolish the official rabbinate, so that American Jews will feel welcome in Israel.

Ungar-Sargon said that young American Jews reject the occupation. She said Bennett’s “fantasy of Israel has an apartheid component to it,” on the West Bank; and she said the Jewish Agency should direct all its efforts to ending the occupation.

P.S. Thanks to Dave Reed for noting that David Klion smartly hopped on this today; I was there last night and planned to get to it later…

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  1. bcg on November 16, 2018, 12:03 pm

    “She believes passionately that Israel has united the Jewish people.” Meanwhile, Shlomo Sand in a recent Haaretz piece casts doubt on the existence of a “Jewish people”:

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/the-twisted-logic-of-the-jewish-historic-right-to-israel-1.6654428

    Since the publication of my first book “The invention of the Jewish people” a decade ago, I have made a point of emphasizing that it’s not only Jews who don’t possess a common DNA – neither do all other human groups that claim to be peoples or nations – besides which I have never thought that genetics can confer national rights. For example, the French are not the direct descendants of the Gauls, just as the Germans are not the offspring of the Teutons or of the ancient Aryans, even if until a little more than half a century ago many idiots believed just that. …The founding myth of Zionism … acts as the principal ideological glue for the nation’s everlasting unity, and today more than ever. The justification for Zionist settlement/colonization (choose your preferred term – they mean the same thing) is the meta-paradigm that is expressed in the declaration of the establishment of the state, namely: “We were here, we were uprooted, we came back.”

    • Misterioso on November 17, 2018, 10:53 am

      @beg, et al

      Furthermore:

      Recent in depth DNA analysis has proven conclusively that including their ancestors, Palestinians have lived continuously between the River and the Sea for about 15,000 years. ** (see below.)

      The Jebusite/Canaanites were ancestors of today’s Palestinians and it was they who founded Jerusalem around 3000 BCE. Originally known as Jebus, the first recorded reference to it as “Rushalimum” or “Urussalim,” site of the sacred Foundation Rock, appears in Egyptian Execration Texts of the nineteenth century BCE, nearly 800 years before it is alleged King David was born. Its name “seems to have incorporated the name of the Syrian god Shalem [the Canaanite God of Dusk], who was identified with the setting sun or the evening star…and] can probably be translated as ‘Shalem has founded’.” (Karen Armstrong, Jerusalem, One City, Three Faiths; Alfred A. Knopf, New York, 1996, pp.6-7)

      It is estimated that the Hebrews did not invade until circa 1184 BCE and their resulting United Kingdom of Israel, which never controlled the coast from Jaffa to Gaza, lasted only about 75-80 years, less than a blip in the history of Canaan and Palestine.

      Thus far, no credible archaeological evidence, or more importantly, writings of contemporaneous civilizations, have been found that prove Solomon or David actually existed. (Nor has any evidence been discovered to confirm that a Jewish exodus from Egypt ever occurred. )

      To quote the late renowned Jewish Israeli writer/columnist, Uri Avnery: “[David and Solomon’s] existence is disproved, inter alia, by their total absence from the voluminous correspondence of Egyptian rulers and spies in the Land of Canaan.” (“A Curious National Home,” by Uri Avnery, May 13/17 – http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1494589093/)

      Jewish missionaries converted many pagan peoples to their faith in the Middle East, including Palestine, as well as Africa, Asia and Europe, especially during the two centuries preceding Christianity. Also, the Zionist claim that descendants of those Jews expelled from Palestine by the Romans have lived apart throughout the world for nearly two millennia and not intermingled with people outside of their religion is utterly absurd. To quote Polish born David Ben-Gurion (real name, David Gruen): “‘race’ does not unite Jewry since the ancient people dissipated after so much dispersion.” (Philippe de Saint Robert, Le Jeu de la France en Mediteranee ,1970, p.182)

      ** http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fgene.2017.00087/full Front. Genet., 21 June 2017 | https://doi.org/10.3389/fgene.2017.00087

      EXCERPT: “The Origins of Ashkenaz, Ashkenazic Jews, and Yiddish”

      “Recent genetic samples from bones found in Palestine dating to the Epipaleolithic (20000-10500 BCE) showed remarkable resemblance to modern day Palestinians.”

      Also:
      “The non-Levantine origin of AJs [Ashkenazi Jews] is further supported by an ancient DNA analysis of six Natufians and a Levantine Neolithic (Lazaridis et al., 2016), some of the most likely Judaean progenitors (Finkelstein and Silberman, 2002; Frendo, 2004). In a principle component analysis (PCA), the ancient Levantines clustered predominantly with modern-day Palestinians and Bedouins and marginally overlapped with Arabian Jews, whereas AJs clustered away from Levantine individuals and adjacent to Neolithic Anatolians and Late Neolithic and Bronze Age Europeans.”

      “Overall, the combined results are in a strong agreement with the predictions of the Irano-Turko-Slavic hypothesis (Table 1) and rule out an ancient Levantine origin for AJs, which is predominant among modern-day Levantine populations (e.g., Bedouins and Palestinians). This is not surprising since Jews differed in cultural practices and norms (Sand, 2011) and tended to adopt local customs (Falk, 2006). Very little Palestinian Jewish culture survived outside of Palestine (Sand, 2009). For example, the folklore and folkways of the Jews in northern Europe is distinctly pre-Christian German (Patai, 1983) and Slavic in origin, which disappeared among the latter (Wexler, 1993, 2012).”

      • RoHa on November 17, 2018, 8:34 pm

        “It is estimated that the Hebrews did not invade until circa 1184 BCE”

        From where?

        “and their resulting United Kingdom of Israel, which never controlled the coast from Jaffa to Gaza, lasted only about 75-80 years,”

        That’s even less than the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

      • JWalters on November 18, 2018, 1:46 am

        Thanks for another batch of rich factual details. These demolish the myths used to brainwash Jewish children (e.g. Bari Weiss) into supporting Israel’s barbaric actions and policies. Especially significant, it seems to me, is the extremely brief existence of the ancient kingdom of Israel.

        Some readers may also find interesting a speech on these myths by Israeli founder Uri Avnery.
        “Israeli Founder Contests Founding Myths”
        https://consortiumnews.com/2015/01/03/israeli-founder-contests-founding-myths/

        As more people become aware of these facts they will increasingly become part of the discussion. The Zionist myths will crumble, and so will the Israeli claims to legitimacy based upon them.

      • MHughes976 on November 18, 2018, 9:04 am

        I’m not sure why 1184 is chosen? The Stela of Merneptah, often thought to confirm an Israelite presence in Canaan, is about two decades older.
        The Hasmonean-Herodian kingdom, which lasted for about two centuries, vigorously promoted the sacred status of the earlier ‘United Monarchy’ which, as mentioned, was claimed to have lasted only 80-odd years. It happened that what might have been only a work of dull propaganda turned out to be a work of literary genius. It has to this day captured a little bit of almost every brain the Western world. Zionism takes this force and uses it for all ir’s worth. Resistance may not be futile but it’s not easy. Facts – or at least our understanding of facts – can be transformed by poetry..

      • Mooser on November 18, 2018, 1:12 pm

        “Zionism takes this force and uses it for all it’s worth”

        It’s funny how many Englishmen involved with attaching Zionism to Britain’s “colonial mandate” for Palestine said the same thing- they claimed a better knowledge of Palestine’s geography than Britain’s, thanks to their Bible study.

        As I believe Lloyd George said: “British Palestine would be defined in accordance with its ancient boundaries of Dan to Beersheba”

      • MHughes976 on November 18, 2018, 4:14 pm

        I believe Lloyd G did indeed say that – often. These Welsh Calvinists!

      • DaBakr on November 19, 2018, 12:21 pm

        @m

        your big complaint about hasbara is proven bogus by this post because if ever there was proof that Israel haters have their own distinct form of hasbara this “turkic” obsession is it. even the arabs in west bank and Gaza (not all, but many) identify as coming from Egypt Syria Lebanon and before that Arabia. Are there still descendants of the philistine, Phoenician, and canaanite people? Surely there are some with DNA makers but not in any great numbers and there are as many Jews living in Jerusalem for thousands of years with similar makers.
        . Pretending the history of western civilization and the growth of the three major religions is a vast conspiracy may make you feel better about your bigoted hatred but the arabs have no problem discussing their greatest leader- Arafat as being from Egypt and many other powerful Palestinian clans having origins in places other then Israel. It doesn’t make them feel less entitled to the land. In fact, until recently, palestinian hasbara didn’t touch much on the history of the land past the Arab conquest because, that is really the crux of the issue. Islam supersedes Christianity and Judaism(and ba’hai) as the dominant civic religion, period. Islamic law supposedly covered the treatment of dhimmis in society. The mosques were built over the churches and synagogues on the mount and elsewhere. As far as the arabs are concerned, that’s the end of the discussion. That is the natural order of things. The crusades faded and the Jews that fought with the Kurd Saladin deemed themselves better off under Islamic Arab rule then Christianity. The fate of Jews in the region fluctuated up and down greatly until 1948

        It’s obvious the biggest Arab complaint is that since the time of the Arab conquest the land was primarily Islamic (with a continuous Jewish presence predating the Arab conquest) and after Israel was reborn the creation of a separate Palestinian identity/nationality was created as a necessity to counter Jewish nationalism and distinguish between arabs from Jordan, southern Syria and residents west of the Jordan. It’s not a big mystery.
        . If your counting on archeology to continuously disprove the deep connection to the land and the stories (even if mythologized) from the bible you will (and should be) deeply disappointed. Almost every month a new piece of puzzle is connecting what most already accept as the basic outline of history. Archeologists are notoriously skeptical of verifying biblical stories. But the existence of king David and Solomon is not disputed in general. The evidence continues to accumulate. It’s also strange that for Israel haters who may jade been born into Christianity or Islam would try so hard to invalidate the creation of these cultural, civic and religious institutions that formed the basis of identity for centuries.

        the israel archeology departments also continue to explore the history of the Arab colonization and the Ottoman eras. What always cracks me up is when commenters bring up the supposed’legitimacy’ of their favorite ‘khazzer’ theory of Jews. It’s not brain surgery to imagine some Jews that remained in exile in Babylon might have migrated up through Persia and into the caucas. And there are probably some eastern Asian Jews that may have cropped up independently of ancient Israel. But the khazzer theory (always curiously said to be re-proven after constant debunking)? So little is known of the khazzer tribes and who might have converted to what religion it’s a joke. Many wealthier Ashkenasi Jews can trace their lineage straight through Spain and back to Judea yet we will always have to endure the absurdity of theories like the tzarist protocols, khazzers, devils, mud people. Yet the most obvious history of all, that the vast majority by far of European Jews came across northern Africa, into Spain or up through Persia into the Balkans then up through Europe-OR- chased back from Spain through northern Africa and spread out through the Arab conquest is challenged as idiotic as challenging the origin of first nation americans through Asia.
        . Your fantasy of creating a mythological askenazi entity completly devoid of roots in Judea is the typical ploy of the weak mediocre minded jew haters who are smart enough to understand theory but not enough to weed out meaningless info.
        Also strange because the arabs who contest the idea that Jews have any right to sovereignty over any of the land have never needed ridiculous arguments to make the point that they believe the land is theirs, period. While they ignore the millions of mizrahi Jews they simply state that the european Jews were foisted on them due to the evil deeds of European Christians. and there is no denying that is partially the cause of their sudden displacement. But the arabs have never shied away from denying any right to Jewish sovereignty and only state they have’no problem with jews per se’. It’s the guilty hand-wringing white liberals who have cooked up continuous narratives to discredit the Jewish nature and history of the small nation that’s now Israel. One might as well discredit the entire sweep of western civilization from Greek, Roman, Gaul , Britain, America. None of its advancement anything to do with Judea, David, Solomon . Not a thing. Just Canaan.

      • Mooser on November 20, 2018, 11:53 am

        “your big complaint about hasbara is proven…/…Just Canaan”

        Good lord! A 31 click mutter from the nutter.

  2. Maghlawatan on November 16, 2018, 1:52 pm

    Zionism is a polarizing force. There can’t be any unity when half of the group believes in justice and the rest root for sociopaths.

  3. US Citizen on November 16, 2018, 6:54 pm

    UGH. A flaming hypocrite and snake. Weiss has a long record of seeking to muzzle critics of Israel, going back to her campaigns against professors — several of them Arab — as an undergraduate at Columbia University in the early 2000’s. She also had a role in hounding out a Columbia dean for hosting former Iranian president Ahmadinejad.

    As Glenn Greenwald pointed out in his excellent Intercept article
    https://theintercept.com/2018/03/08/the-nyts-bari-weiss-falsely-denies-her-years-of-attacks-on-the-academic-freedom-of-arab-scholars-who-criticize-israel/

    I saw her on Bill Maher talking about respect, and love for all, respect for human dignity, don’t like bigots, freedom for all, blah, blah, blah, etc. However, again, she has a long record of seeking to muzzle critics of Israel, going back to her campaigns against professors — several of them Arab — as an undergraduate at Columbia University in the early 2000’s. She also had a role in hounding out a Columbia dean for hosting former Iranian president Ahmadinejad. Her father is a stalwart at AIPAC, the Israel lobby group who defines our middle east policy with our US Congress.

    If we don’t love the jews then we’re anti-semites. But she is an anti-Palestinian and a Islamaphobe and a hypocrite. Videotapes recording illegal jewish settler squats throwing garbage on Hebron Palestinians does more to stereotype israel to the World than the claims of anti-Semites.

    Zionism — the idea that Jewish people ought to have a Jewish state in mandate Palestine — is anachronistic in the 21st century. The idea that non-Jews who have lived on the land for generations before the creation of the state of Israel should be relegated to second-class citizenship because they’re not Jewish is racist plain and simple.

  4. annie on November 16, 2018, 7:17 pm

    Batya Ungar-Sargon is a very interesting, charismatic and compelling speaker. this is the first time i’ve ever watched a video of her, watched her speak. just wow. she’s very captivating. i was a little stunned when weiss cut in on her opening dialogue. that’s not very common in a panel format where people are introduced and make an opening statement. not only that but then weiss appeared to take on the job of moderator and lob questions.

    there’s just no comparison of the two women, Batya’s really expressive in her body language and words and reasoning (in a mind exercising kind of way) whereas weiss tends to have an insistent domineering quality about her. at one point when Ungar-Sargon was speaking, later in the program after quite awhile when she had been relatively silent, Ungar-Sargon literally had her hand up in the direction of weiss motioning her repeatedly to stop trying to interrupt her. and these repetitious bleeps would come out of weiss. it was as if every time Ungar-Sargon captured (i don’t use that word lightly because her voice and body language are very captivating) the attention of the audience, it seemed these choice moments were too much for weiss, as if all that attention should be focused on her instead.

    and yet weiss seems to be much in the limelight more than Ungar-Sargon, oddly. hands down one is a far better and more engaging creative speaker and thinker. and i didn’t start out sympathetic with everything Ungar-Sargon was saying either.

    the rest of it i’ll get to later. i just thought i’d mention that. Batya Ungar-Sargon has star potential, she’s a uniter.

    • annie on November 17, 2018, 12:55 pm

      actually i take that back about Ungar-Sargon being a uniter. i just checked out her twitter feed, she seems to be under the impression that anyone who supports bds is an anti semite. that’s kind of a dead end.

      • MHughes976 on November 18, 2018, 4:19 pm

        I looked at that too. I take U-S to be a total 2-statist liberal Z, often saying reasonable things but in the end profoundly frustrating and unhelpful.
        A descendant of Assyrian kings?

    • DaBakr on November 19, 2018, 11:16 am

      @an

      Arrogant jew Zionist vs. Emphatic, polite powerful anti Zionist. Got it. No old tropes there.

      • amigo on November 19, 2018, 1:02 pm

        ” No old tropes there.”.Duh-baker

        There aren,t any old tropes there.

        Your,e just another dishonest , arrogant Zionist yourself ,trying to put words in the Mouth of an Emphatic, anti Zionist oppression,(Annie) who supports equal rights for all , unlike the rude arrogant Zionist Jew ,weiss, who is against equal rights for all and defends the war crimes (as do you) of the rogue entity and war criminal regime known as Israel.

        What would sorry suckers like you and Wandering Jew do all day if you didn,t waste it all looking for Antisemitism in all the wrong places.

      • DaBakr on November 19, 2018, 1:26 pm

        @am

        arrogant. the favorite descriptive for jew haters. nobody has to look very hard. when it’s all here.

      • amigo on November 19, 2018, 3:01 pm

        “arrogant. the favorite descriptive for jew haters. “duh baker

        “synonyms: haughtiness, conceit, hubris, self-importance, egotism, sense of superiority; pomposity, high-handedness, swagger, boasting, bumptiousness, bluster, condescension, disdain, contempt, imperiousness;
        pride, vanity, immodesty;
        loftiness, lordliness, snobbishness, snobbery, superciliousness, smugness;
        pretension, pretentiousness, affectation;
        scorn, mocking, sneering, scoffing;
        presumption, insolence;
        informaluppitiness, big-headedness
        “to dismiss all the academic work on the subject displays breathtaking arrogance”

        The above describes weiss perfectly.Read how she continually interrupted the other speaker as zionists are wont to do whenever they are under threat by the facts.

        Trump is arrogant –does that make me a Hater of White people of which I am one.I guess that makes me a “self hating white guy”.

        Like I said duh baker , you look for A/S anywhere but where it exists.

        Grow up.

      • Mooser on November 20, 2018, 11:38 am

        “Arrogant jew Zionist vs. Emphatic, polite powerful anti Zionist. Got it. No old tropes there.”

        Not a one! The “old trope” was a servile, cringing Jew. But the new Jew is trauma free and sovereign, not arrogant!

  5. Kay24 on November 17, 2018, 5:10 am

    She speaks like a naive woman, outraged at what the Palestinians do, protest, throw rocks etc., while completely having a never ending brain fart, when it comes to Israel, the occupation, and land grabs, whenever she tries to convey and convince us, that Israel is THE victim.
    Bill Maher seems to love her.

    • Misterioso on November 17, 2018, 10:56 am

      @Kay24

      Bill Maher is a long time Zionist toady.

      • Citizen on November 17, 2018, 1:42 pm

        Yes he is. All three on the referenced panel discussion sponsored by ADL are more interested in the romance of being Jewish than in discussing the details of Israel’s long occupation.

      • Kay24 on November 17, 2018, 2:16 pm

        And an Islamaphobe too, big time.

      • JWalters on November 17, 2018, 6:01 pm

        That began when Maher had a few Palestinian college students on his former show Politically Incorrect. These students started to inform viewers about the Palestinian side of the story. I recall vividly that after two episodes with such students Maher’s show was abruptly cancelled, despite good ratings. After years in the media wilderness Maher was allowed to return, apparently after selling his soul to Israel.

  6. Paranam Kid on November 17, 2018, 8:38 am

    Bari Weiss, the conservative NYT opinion page editor, is a romantic Zionist.

    So, let me get this straight: Wikipedia defines Zionsim as:

    …. the national movement of the Jewish people that supports the re-establishment of a **Jewish homeland** …..

    which means rights for the **Jewish people only** that Zionism is a racist ideology, as confirmed by the Jewish nation state bill which gives rights to the Jews only.

    For heaven’s sake Phil, how can a racist be romantic?

    • annie on November 17, 2018, 12:58 pm

      how is thinking of zionism as merely “the national movement of the Jewish people that supports the re-establishment of a **Jewish homeland**” not romanticizing it?

      • eljay on November 17, 2018, 2:08 pm

        || annie: how is thinking of zionism as merely “the national movement of the Jewish people that supports the re-establishment of a **Jewish homeland**” not romanticizing it? ||

        I agree that it sounds a lot more romantic than:
        The movement of Jewish supremacists that supports…
        – the colonization of geographic Palestine by Jewish citizens of homelands all over the world;
        – the establishment in as much as possible of the region a religion-supremacist “Jewish State”; and
        – whatever “necessary evil” is required to achieve these goals
        .

      • annie on November 17, 2018, 7:52 pm

        it’s the ultimate cherry picking of facts. yet if one defines white nationalism as the national movement of white christian self determination that affirms America is a **Christian homeland** all of a sudden that might not sound so loverly to *liberal* zionists.

        all that strange fruit rotting on nooses, pointy hats, and burning crosses, don’t mention that part and it’s AOK.

      • DaBakr on November 19, 2018, 12:44 pm

        Of course it’s romantic. the Arab conquest of the middle east is romantic. the european history of the founding of America is romantic. the valiant but futile wars to hold off european land grabs and eventual genocide has romantic elements. so does the naive portrayal of the native tribes as living in’harmony’ with mother earth/father sky romantic. they all had wars, with other tribes, white settlers, Spanish, and, when the great chiefs spoke at the end of the 19th century they admitted that had they the resources and forethought, they would have killed every european settler before the 18th century. They admitted they were defeated militarily and not for lack of determination.

    • wondering jew on November 18, 2018, 4:39 am

      How romantic!

      But I also refer to the Romantic movement versus the Rationalist Movement and there is where one finds nationalism. Although Rationalists also claim loyalty to their nations and can rationalize that helping one’s (extended) tribe/family is a way to rationally contribute to the world, the rationalist movement emphasizes the individual and his/her freedom rather than the group. So the romantic movement is the location for Zionism, a type of nationalism.

      How does one react to a cataclysmic event like 1939-1945? What does rationalism say? What does romanticism say? There are no answers offered by either tendency that are any real consolation.

      • Mooser on November 18, 2018, 1:20 pm

        ” What does romanticism say?”

        ROTFLMSJAO! I’ll let you tell us, “WJ”: “Unfortunately Hitler gave antisemitism a bad name.” “WJ”

      • RoHa on November 18, 2018, 5:44 pm

        “How does one react to a cataclysmic event like 1939-1945? ”

        I don’t understand what you mean by “react to”. WW2 is history. We may feel sorrow, or anger, or irritation or horror at the misery, the loss, the cruelty, the stupidity of it all. Is that what you mean?

        ” There are no answers offered by either tendency …”

        What are the questions?

        ” that are any real consolation.”

        If any consolation is possible, it is for those who suffered through the war. But most of us were born after the war ended. We do not need consolation.

      • DaBakr on November 20, 2018, 12:28 am

        @wj

        So basically….. Your saying the rationalists rationalize stuff. amazing.

  7. Elizabeth Block on November 17, 2018, 10:11 am

    “Our values are other things other than civil rights.”

    Well, golly gee. Who knew?

  8. US Citizen on November 17, 2018, 9:46 pm

    Maher has personally offered himself as an asset to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government. “I love Israel, but you know, if you f**k with them, they will blow the f**k out of you,” Maher declared. Gee, kinda like ISIS right Bill? You bloviating hypocrite. How much longer will we continue to tolerate Islamophobes like Maher, who have built their careers on naked bigotry? He legitimizes Islamophobia.

    Maher is totally myopic when it comes to Islam. He is determined to demonize entire religion that is the fastest growing religion in the world. There was no Isis, El Shaba, Boko Harram before 9/11. He ignores jewish terrorism against the Palestinians, he invalidated IRA terrorism and he totally ignores domestic abuse in this country, the US, where men of all colors murder more men, woman and children everyday than ISIS ever could. He will brook no dissension or allow anyone to make their point. And when was the last time he had a Muslim on his show? Rula Jabreal went back at him and he went apoplectic and shut her down. The man is a racist bigot when it comes to Islam, embarrassing and shameful.

    Bill’s old show got yanked because he stuck up for insurgants fighting for their country. Now Bill knows what side his bread is buttered on and has to kowtow to his jewish bosses and be pro-israel. His insistent ignorance is embarrassing for him. For a guy up on current events and one who made a movie about religion it’s beyond idiotic.

    • Marnie on November 19, 2018, 11:00 am

      Maher is a real piece of shit isn’t he? How he continues to be a thing is beyond me (wait a sec – he’s doing what he gets paid to do, insult and degrade muslims, and really gets quite excited doing it). His declarations of loyalty to israel is disgusting and pretty funny, considering he’ll never leave Manhattan (and that’s good).

      As far as ‘u.s. and israeli jews being one people’ – how? Are white americans, germans, swedes, brits, irish, scottish, french, italian, spanish, south africans, etc., all one people? Are african americans and africans from all the countries of africa one people?

  9. Boomer on November 18, 2018, 6:55 am

    re “Bari Weiss, the conservative NYT opinion page editor”

    I have a sincere question, which, like all sincere questions, reveals ignorance. I begin with that preface, because I might appear to be making a snarky comment of some sort. Does NYT have two opinion page editors, with Weiss being the designated “conservative,” or is she THE opinion page editor, who is being described as a conservative? I can imagine that either might be true. I’ve always thought of NYT as at the “liberal” end of the spectrum on most issues, as that term is used in the U.S., or at least left of center. Of course, Israel is very much a special case.

    Either way, the fact that she has such a position says a lot about the NYT.

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