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The New York Times surprised us yesterday by running a long, front-page investigation into the Israeli army’s killing last June 1 of a 20-year-old Gazan health worker, Rouzan al-Najjar. Before we criticize, let’s state clearly that this article was inconceivable in the Times up until a year, or even 6 months ago. By contrast, when Israel killed four small boys who were playing soccer on the beach during its 2014 assault on Gaza, the paper swallowed the army’s dishonest explanation, without challenge, even though one of its own photographers had been an eyewitness to the killings.

This time, the Times came right out and said its inquiry showed that “. . . the shooting [of Rouzan al-Najjar] appears to have been reckless at best, and possibly a war crime, for which no one has yet been punished.” The paper waited until the 9th paragraph to say this, but better late than never.

This improved Times coverage is no accident. The paper understands that its reading public is growing steadily more informed about Israel/Palestine, partly due to alternative news sources like this site. Public comments sections that follow some Times reports show that readers will no longer accept one-sided pro-Israel coverage.

Back to Rouzan al-Najjar, the murdered young Gazan health worker. Despite the considerable improvement, the Times investigation had major flaws. First, why didn’t the paper consult long-established Israeli human rights groups, like B’Tselem and Breaking the Silence? Way back on July 17, B’Tselem released a report with the headline: “Israeli Soldiers Deliberately and Fatally Shot Palestinian Paramedic Rozan a-Najar in the Gaza Strip.” [Her name has been spelled several different ways.] And surely some digging around the courageous, outspoken Israeli soldiers who participate in Breaking the Silence might have found actual witnesses, whom the paper could have protected by allowing them to stay anonymous?

Next, concentrating on a single victim of Israel’s army does make sense. But the result, probably unintended, is to imply that Rouzan al-Najjar’s death was an isolated or rare occurrence. The Times did point out that the Palestinian death toll during the Great March of Return was 185, but it could have emphasized this truth more. And only one sentence notes that the Israel military lost only one single soldier.

Critics, such as Adalah-NY, noted that the Times report was “marred by framing aiming to discredit Palestinian protesters, saying ‘the protests amount to little more than a PR stunt for Hamas.’” Truly, the Times’s assessment is obnoxious, and beneath its dignity. Would it ever have published something like: “When the young John Lewis, who would later become a distinguished member of Congress, was attacked by white police in Selma, Alabama in March 1965 and suffered a broken skull, he was part of a protest that amounted to little more than a PR stunt for the voting rights movement?” Never.

There was more. The Times said that al-Najjar “lied about her lack of education,” and “pretended to be a college student.” It turned out that she “couldn’t afford college,” but was determined to go eventually. The paper also noted that “her Facebook posts could be florid.” Helping to care for hundreds of unarmed people who are regularly shot around you might excite even the most phlegmatic mainstream American reporter.

Still, on balance the Times report was a big step forward. Let us end by simply repeating the paper’s conclusion: “. . . the shooting appears to have been reckless at best, and possibly a war crime, for which no one has yet been punished.”

H/T Norman Finkelstein

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  1. JohnSmith
    JohnSmith
    December 31, 2018, 12:02 pm

    If anyone hasn’t seen this yet, you must read this article on Palestinian superbug problems in Gaza:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/31/palestinian-superbug-epidemic-could-spread-say-doctors-drug-resistant-antibiotics

    A doctor researching “conflict medicine” in Beirut says “The untreated sewage from Gaza containing multi-drug-resistant bacteria goes into the aquifer and that is a shared aquifer [with Egypt and Israel].”

    Great way for Israel to bite itself in the ass. Even with fancy medicine, medical care, and hospitals, people in Israel, Zionist members of the “master race” will die or become maimed because of the superbugs they helped to incubate by their vicious mistreatment of Palestinians, but, hey, they got to feel racially superior to another people, so it must be worth it….

    • Jackdaw
      Jackdaw
      December 31, 2018, 12:50 pm

      It is the PA and Hamas, that are responsible for Gaza’s waste mismanagement and degraded health care system.

      The Palestinian leadership should try building and improving sewage treatment plants and desalination plants, and spending more money on medicine, instead of spending it on weapons and tunnels.

      “We have met the enemy, and he is us.’

      • bcg
        bcg
        December 31, 2018, 1:10 pm

        @Jackdaw: Occasionally the list of ‘restricted items’ that Israel won’t allow into Gaza is leaked, and past lists have included…chocolate, sweaters, pencils and paper. Exactly how the Gazans are supposed to build an infrastructure in this environment is beyond me; they can’t even send fishing boats out into the Mediterranean more than a few miles.

        I won’t bother with links here, but a little research shows that about 1% of Gaza’s economy goes toward military hardware; that’s not their problem. The problem is that the people of Gaza are living in a large open air prison from which they can’t leave without permission from their Jewish masters.

      • eljay
        eljay
        December 31, 2018, 7:25 pm

        || Jackdaw: … The Palestinian leadership should try building and improving sewage treatment plants and desalination plants, and spending more money on medicine … ||

        I agree with you 100% that Palestine must be allowed to emerge as a sovereign nation within its / Partition borders and freely solicit foreign aid, investment and development.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        December 31, 2018, 8:01 pm

        @jockdoh

        Why? Is Israel running out of illegitimate targets?

        There is no building going to happen while Israel’s boots are on their neck. Anything that could improve their lives will be destroyed by criminal zionists.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        December 31, 2018, 8:15 pm

        Jackdaw: “It is the PA and Hamas, that are responsible for Gaza’s waste mismanagement and degraded health care system.”

        Sure. Not a single condemnation of repeated Israeli military attacks on Gaza that have damaged or destroyed water and sanitation infrastructure, including desalination plants, wells, and waste management facilities which is a war crime.

        Not a single condemnation of the illegal blockade that has prevented Gaza from repairing or replacing this infrastructure, as Israel prohibits the import of key materials that are needed, Or items that are needed to maintain water and sewage infrastructure like pumps, concrete, welding supplies, pipes, water purification chemicals, and other.

        Not a single condemnation of Israel siphoning off more than 80 percent of Gaza’s groundwater through wells tapping Gaza aquifer sources which is a ley reason why the aquifer is not replenishing and is becoming increasingly contaminated.

        Just blame the victims of state terrorism and half a century of occupation.

      • CigarGod
        CigarGod
        January 1, 2019, 12:23 am

        Poor Jack and his degraded thinking system.

        IDF bombed the water and waste treatment facilities…as well as the only power plant…which is why waste is untreated, flows into the sea…and into Israel’s ground water.

        I expect you will want to load up your donkey and take Gaza enough cement to fix what your family destroyed.

      • Misterioso
        Misterioso
        January 1, 2019, 9:12 am

        @Jackdaw

        Good grief!! What an utter dolt you are. But keep it up! Your comments well serve the Palestinian cause.

      • Misterioso
        Misterioso
        January 1, 2019, 9:23 am

        @Jackdaw

        Reality:
        “Israel has assaulted Gaza heavily three times since the end of 2008, which caused the deaths of thousands as well as enormous damage to its infrastructure and crippling Gaza’s economy. Severe cuts to electricity have had a devastating impact on medical aid, food and technology. The water situation is dire – since Israel destroyed Gaza’s sewage infrastructure, raw sewage flows into the ocean, polluting their beaches and leaching into and polluting almost all of Gaza’s groundwater, making it undrinkable. Almost everyone in Gaza depends on water delivered by tanker trucks. Since building materials are prohibited from being allowed into Gaza, valuable infrastructure cannot be rebuilt. Being a fisherman in Gaza is now a very dangerous occupation, for the IDF routinely fires on fishing boats, injuring, arresting and killing fishermen, as well as confiscating and even destroying fishing boats. How might any of us react to such an inhumane blockade? Would we risk our lives to protest?” (“Coming to terms with my Jewish upbringing” by Tsiporah Grignon, August, 2018)

      • Jon66
        Jon66
        January 1, 2019, 10:57 am

        BCG
        If we assume that the 1% figure is accurate then there is plenty of money to both pay for waste management and still have some left over. In the US “The industry accounted for roughly one-half of one percent of the U.S. gross domestic product.”
        (GDP).”https://www.waste360.com/mag/waste_us_solid_waste

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        January 1, 2019, 12:31 pm

        Jon66: “If we assume that the 1% figure is accurate then there is plenty of money to both pay for waste management and still have some left over.”

        To pay for what exactly? For anything that the Apartheid Junta prevents from entering Gaza and is needed for construction, repairment or maintanance? This is just another case of the Apartheid Junta’s long term destruction and expulsion policy.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        January 1, 2019, 7:19 pm

        @bc

        have you also read the reports on the dozens of Hamas tunnels, how much cement and steel was used and how the same amounts applied to building new housing, buildings, hospitals, etc totaled entire neighborhoods. Schools, hospitals etc. But of course, they have their priorities

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        January 2, 2019, 10:41 am

        have you also read the reports on the dozens of Hamas tunnels, how much cement and steel was used and how the same amounts applied to building new housing, buildings, hospitals, etc totaled entire neighborhoods.

        Probably an insignificant amount. Hamas wouldn’t have to build those facilities if Israel had not bombed them to begin with. Israel would bomb those facilities anyway if they were rebuilt.

        Of course, Israel has the highest rate of poverty in the OECD, but they spend billions on weapons, maintaining the illegal occupation and subsidizing the illegal settlements.

        But of course, they have their priorities

  2. Boomer
    Boomer
    December 31, 2018, 12:29 pm

    Thanks for a good assessment of a modest step forward for an immoral Zionist apologist that pretends to be unbiased journalism.

    By the way, alluding to a “possible war crime” may be a step forward, but I have to wonder, “what war?” There’s no clash of armies, just highly armed soldiers safely taking potshots at unarmed refugees imprisoned in a giant camp.

  3. Tom Suarez
    Tom Suarez
    December 31, 2018, 6:52 pm

    I am glad to have read Mr. North’s nuanced and intelligent reaction to the 31st Dec NYC piece, which was not only the NYT’s headline, but it was THE nyt headline as it formatted on my phone.
    But when I read the NYT piece, far from thinking it was an improvement over their previous piece on the murder, I was ready to crazy-glue myself to the NYT building and threaten to hold a seance to contact Arthur Sulzberger, NYT publisher in the 1940s, who would I am sure give his successors a lecture on integrity and racism.
    The core NYT problem remains: Israel has us dancing around parsing the causes and effects within the catastrophe they have created. But it doesn’t make any difference whether Rouzan al-Najjar, or any other inmate in the Gaza Ghetto, or any individual IDF soldier, did this-or-that. The quagmire itself is the doing of Zionism. As regards all the endless “complications” and nuances, see the previous sentence.

    • Boomer
      Boomer
      January 1, 2019, 7:08 am

      Well said, Mr. Suarez. AND–let us not forget–it is enabled by the USA.

  4. bcg
    bcg
    January 1, 2019, 12:48 pm

    @Jon66: “If we assume that the 1% figure is accurate then there is plenty of money to both pay for waste management and still have some left over.”

    Yes, but they don’t control their borders, they can’t import machinery, they can’t freely travel, no one can enter without Israel’s approval, everything is controlled by Israel. What part of ‘prison’ don’t you understand?

    • Jon66
      Jon66
      January 1, 2019, 3:57 pm

      BCG,
      I thought your argument was that the funds devoted to the military were insufficient to address the waste management issue. Now your changing your argument.

      • annie
        annie
        January 1, 2019, 5:08 pm

        a little research shows that about 1% of Gaza’s economy goes toward military hardware; that’s not their problem. The problem is that the people of Gaza are living in a large open air prison from which they can’t leave without permission from their Jewish masters.

        iow, bcg has not changed tune.

      • Jon66
        Jon66
        January 1, 2019, 6:57 pm

        Annie,
        So we can agree that the funds Hamas spends on military are sufficient to provide for sanitation if they were used for sanitation and the needed materials were allowed in?

      • annie
        annie
        January 1, 2019, 10:06 pm

        no jon, i was merely correcting your allegation:

        Now your changing your argument.

        bcg’s argument was there from the beginning.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        January 1, 2019, 7:26 pm

        @a

        I doubt the arms smuggled in by Iran makes it on tally sheets. But ok, 1%. And don’t forget, Palestinian militants have figured out extremely inexpensive ways to violently harass southern Israelis. The kites, balloons and occasions endangered hawks come to mind. Nobody ever accused Palestinians of not being resourceful. I would say fairly that both the IDF and the Palestinian leadership exaggerate for many reasons. Keeping the money spent on arms has been a top priority for Israel for years. By any means necessary. (And the Arabs will hide their own caches by the same means, wth tenacity).

        Btw @annie. You asked last week what possible Iranian expansionism there was… Implying there was none. A simple search of the Arabic press shots turn up a multitude of articles and op-eds where Arab pundits and journalists jade blamed both Obama and now trump for allowing Iranian expansionism into not only Syria but there are may Sunnis who resent the expansion of Iran into Iraq. (Saddam Hussein’s daughter being one of many. She may have little cred in the West but there are Sunnis pining for the brutal regime of Hussein)

      • lonely rico
        lonely rico
        January 1, 2019, 8:19 pm

        > DaBakr

        Palestinian militants have figured out extremely inexpensive ways to violently harass southern Israelis … kites, balloons and occasions (sic) endangered hawks come to mind.

        Y’ur right DB. To think that endangered hawks are used to murder and maim peace-loving Israelis, living on land formerly stolen by the Palestinians, who don’t understand God willed it to the Jews a long time ago. They, the Palestinians, must learn, but for the time being, the carnage and terror wreaked by the kites and balloons and the hawks is terrible, striking fear into the hearts of Jews not only in the sacred motherland, but the world over.

        I am powerless to help you DB, but I feel you pain.

      • eljay
        eljay
        January 1, 2019, 9:04 pm

        || Jon66: Annie,
        So we can agree that the funds Hamas spends on military are sufficient to provide for sanitation if they were used for sanitation and the needed materials were allowed in? ||

        Jon66, you are so right: The West should give to the Palestinians billions of dollars in cash and military hardware every year so that Hamas can spend on sanitation the funds it currently spends on military.

      • RoHa
        RoHa
        January 1, 2019, 10:27 pm

        “there are Sunnis pining for the brutal regime of Hussein”

        Considering the horrors of the invasion and what came after the overthrow of Hussein, this is hardly surprising.

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        January 2, 2019, 11:18 am

        So we can agree that the funds Hamas spends on military are sufficient to provide for sanitation if they were used for sanitation and the needed materials were allowed in?

        On the contrary.

        You claimed 1% of GDP is sufficient to provide these services based on what the US spends annually. This budget does not include the cost of rebuilding infrastructure. Nor is the US under siege and it’s infrastructure is not continually bombed and destroyed.

        The US cannot even afford to update it’s infrastructure. If the US had to replace destroyed to the same extent Israel has destroyed Gaza’s, it would run into the trillions.

        Israel can’t even afford to pay for it’s own military-hence the world’s biggest welfare checks from the US tax payer. If the tables were turned and Israel’s infrastructure was flattened, Israel would be unable to rebuild it.

  5. DaBakr
    DaBakr
    January 1, 2019, 7:16 pm

    A “big step”. Right. If onereads the paragraph deeply buried in the article one will read that the shot that was not only unintentional , it was fired at our hit the ground splintering, hitting first one then another person before a fragment hit the Hamas nurse in the chest. That’s a far cry from intentionally aiming at a medic which the Hamas, anti-zionist press including MW and other Israel haters either reported as ‘fact’ or strongly implied. I have read the NYT has spent an enormous amount on this investigation and while it struggled mighty hard to pin blame on Israel and the IDF it simply could not conclude the shot was anything but “reckless” . A term that could apply to any number of actions committed by both palestinians and Israeli soldiers in the midst of a chaotic and violent protest. But, of course, the MW adherents will interpret this nyt article, tinged with biased opinion but curiosly backed up by genuine journalistic standards proving the shot was not aimed, as far as can be discerned, at anybody. Of course, since zionists control the world’s media it’s hard to understand how this could happen

    • CigarGod
      CigarGod
      January 1, 2019, 10:30 pm

      Ha!
      The USA does the same thing and uses the same excuse.
      “We don’t target civilians. We were aiming at a militant in the crowd and the the children were just unfortunate collateral damage.”

    • Eva Smagacz
      Eva Smagacz
      January 2, 2019, 2:24 am

      DaBakr, you said:

      “If one reads the paragraph deeply buried in the article one will read that the shot that was not only unintentional , it was fired at our hit the ground splintering, hitting first one then another person before a fragment hit the Hamas nurse in the chest.”

      You call Razan al-Najjar “Hamas nurse”. Why? Is this to imply that she is a “terrorist”?

      The fatal shot was fired at the group of medical and paramedical personnel, and was likely to have been aimed at a calf of the guy whose leg was grazed by a bullet. Shooting into the crowds of civilian protesters with exploding bullets is a standard operating procedure of IDF, resulting in few thousands of amputations in Gaza. 189/204

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        January 2, 2019, 11:39 am

        You call Razan al-Najjar “Hamas nurse”. Why? Is this to imply that she is a “terrorist”?

        A lie intended to malign her and suggest she was a legitimate target. In interviews she gave, al-Najjar declare she was not a supporter of Hamas. But when you are on the wrong side of history, defending the indefensible, any lie will do.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        January 4, 2019, 1:11 am

        It implies she was on record wth Palestinian sources as being loyal to Hamas. that’s exactly what it “means”

    • Tom Suarez
      Tom Suarez
      January 2, 2019, 7:54 am

      Hello DaBakr, sorry, your reasoning is a classic example of how we have two moral standards, one for “Others”, and one for “Us”. The history of that bullet, even if we believe the Sanctified Word of the NYT, is a complete distraction.

      An invading power (which it is, even accepting UNGA 181) keeps a people under siege for seventy years (no, the siege did not begin with the 2006 election, and it would be irrelevant if it did), then fires into the crowd of people approaching the “border” (remember that both sides are Palestine according to UNGA 181), but the claim by the NYT that that particular bullet was not aimed at that particular person … makes it ok.

      Test your argument: If an invading power had ethnically cleansed you, (or anyone “like us”) from your home, corralled you into a sadistic testing ground, and seventy years later, when you approached the perimeter of the ghetto they made for you, their snipers were shooting away, and one of their bullets killed you. Would you still say, ah, but it’s complicated, and they didn’t actually target me…?

      • Shingo
        Shingo
        January 2, 2019, 11:26 am

        but the claim by the NYT that that particular bullet was not aimed at that particular person … makes it ok.

        It’s even worse than that Tom.

        The irony of course is that this rationale makes all the rockets fired by Hamas into Israel legitimate. After all, none of the rockets fired by Hamas gave guidance systems so based on DaBakr and the NYT’s reasoning, Hamas cannot be held responsible for where the rockets land.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        January 4, 2019, 1:10 am

        Your being a nitpicking stickler as well as a generalist. The whole big. Stink was not about the border protests, riots and violence. There were plenty of articles discussing those broader events. The Hamas and the pro palestinian community made a very big issue of israel purposely targeting the young female Hamas nurse. The article then went on to report that in facts the bullet didn’t hit anybody directly and a fragmented ricochet shot could hardly be ppl planned as three direct hits on three medical aides. Then, faced with the truth you want to refocus on what you believe is the larger picture even though there were coniption fits by many like you over the “shooting’.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        January 4, 2019, 1:15 am

        @sz

        Your ‘test t he argument” test is absurd because whenever a zionist, pro-israel or israeli asks or implies for a similar standard or “test” they are shouted down by the likes of you and other mondoweiss supporters with rhetorical tricks like the non reality based concept of ‘whataboutism’

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        January 4, 2019, 5:29 pm

        DaBakr: “The article then went on to report that in facts the bullet didn’t hit anybody directly and a fragmented ricochet shot could hardly be ppl planned as three direct hits on three medical aides.”

        The fact that the Apartheid Junta uses live ammunition when Nonjews demonstrate doesn’t seem to trouble you at all, does it? These disgusting psychopaths seem they do anything to prevent using a non-lethal approach, don’t they? Do you think that it is more or less psychopathological to defend them?

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      January 2, 2019, 11:35 am

      one will read that the shot that was not only unintentional , it was fired at our hit the ground splintering, hitting first one then another person before a fragment hit the Hamas nurse in the chest.

      Funny how you leave out the part of the report that points out there was no justification whatsoever for that shot being fired in the first place

      “An Israeli soldier looking across at where Ms. Najjar stands now might see a man waving a Palestinian flag aloft, a few straggling protesters ambling around, and a cluster of medics helping a protester on the ground recover from tear gas. No one in the area is doing anything menacing. The tear gas is doing what it is meant to: making the use of lethal force unnecessary

      But DaBakr will have you believe the sniper rifle shot fired of it’s own accord.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        January 4, 2019, 1:22 am

        @shg

        There were a lot of actions taken that day that should never have been taken. Israel doesn’t deny that it has shot both militants and soldiers for various factions as well as civilian participants and also unintended bystanders. Of course Hamas denies any responsibility for the 100s of violent, reckless and dangerous actions as well. But they did pay high public tribute to their ‘martyrs’ funerals days after telling the press they were civilians

      • annie
        annie
        January 4, 2019, 2:21 am

        dbkr, please don’t compare “responsibility” for actions that cause no injury and death vs “responsibility” for actions that do.

        Israel doesn’t deny that it has shot ..civilian participants and also unintended bystanders.

        has there ever been a time that you can recall when israel has admitted culpability for one of their forces intentional killing or maiming an innocent person? as if for sport? i doubt it. a trophy might be someone like razan or yousef. bright, young, beautiful, virile of child bearing age. in studies of colonization, regime change, revolution, genocide, these are the people they target, take out first, the most threatening. let’s not play games about anybody’s more moral armies ok?

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        January 4, 2019, 4:35 am

        DaBakr: “Of course Hamas denies any responsibility for the 100s of violent, reckless and dangerous actions as well.”

        Contrary to Israel Hamas takes 100% responsibility of their own actions against Israel and even publish them. But similar to Israel they take 0% for Israel’s actions.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        January 4, 2019, 1:05 pm

        Shorter “Dabakr”: ‘We have every reason, but they have no excuse!’

        “Dabakr”, speaking of bullets hitting the ground, ever heard of “barking” a squirrel? The Israeli snipers undoubtedly know the technique.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        January 4, 2019, 4:07 pm

        There goes dohbaker spreading antisemitism yet again. Denying that the Jewish state of Israel has any agency.

        I would expect no better from a rogue state and it’s similarly bent supporters.

      • DaBakr
        DaBakr
        January 5, 2019, 3:46 am

        @annie

        I know exactly what I am comparing. and it is you afaiks that is making assumptions about morality.

        @og

        I’m sure you have your own favorite’rogue’ state or states or is it just you on the far left that get to determine who exactly is a rogue state. Or maybe you take your cues from the UN…

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        January 5, 2019, 11:33 am

        @dohbaker

        The Oxford English dictionary is a perfectly fine definition and suits Israel

        “A nation or state regarded as breaking international law and posing a threat to the security of other nations.”

        I think there are a lot of other elements which could be added to that definition and which also describe Israel.

        1. A refusal to recognize the existance of international law
        2. A refusal to recognize the applicability of international law
        3. Long running and egregious human rights violations
        3(b). Seeks to reduce the protections afforded to innocent civilians.
        4. Violation of other states sovereignty and right to self determination
        5. Actively works and seeks to undermine international law
        6. Actively works and seeks to undermine international institutions
        7. Repeated failures to adhere to the UN charter in many ways but for this issue a repeated failure to adhere to it’s article 25 obligations
        8. Use of illegal ordinance in conflicts
        9. Continuing and repeated failure to adhere to agreements signed.

        That’s at least a partial list. Israel behaves more like a criminal gang than a state.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        January 5, 2019, 11:55 am

        @ oldgeezer

        Israel has failed to implement 86 Security Council resolutions and 720 General Assembly resolutions so far.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        January 5, 2019, 12:34 pm

        @TalkBack

        It has also ignored the ICJ. But yes, and article 25 is what I was referencing. Ignoring the UNGA resolutions for the sake of argument the article reads (and Israel agreed to)

        “The Members of the United Nations agree to accept and carry out the decisions of the Security Council in accordance with the present Charter.”

        Personally I think it’s high time for Israel to be ejected from the UN. They should like that given their constant attempts to undermine it.

        How about

        10. Attempts to proliferate weapons of mass destruction (South Africa).

        11. Refuses to join international treaties such as chemical weapons and nuclear weapons treaties.

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        January 5, 2019, 5:04 pm

        @oldgeezer: “Personally I think it’s high time for Israel to be ejected from the UN.”

        Israel has never been a “peace-loving state” and has legally confirmed last year that UNGAR’s “Zionism is racism” resolution 3379 was absolutely correct.

        But unfortunately an ejection won’t pass the security council and will be at least vetoed by the country that has been corrupted so much by Zionists that it values allegiance to a foreign country more than to protect its own constitution and to even violate Security Council resolution 478 with its embassy move.
        “(“5. Decides not to recognize the “basic law” and such other actions by Israel that, as a result of this law, seek to alter the character and status of Jerusalem and calls upon:

        (a) All Member States to accept this decision;

        (b) Those States that have established diplomatic missions at Jerusalem to withdraw such missions from the Holy City;”)
        https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/DDE590C6FF232007852560DF0065FDDB

      • mondonut
        mondonut
        January 6, 2019, 1:56 am

        @Talkback, Those States that have established diplomatic missions at Jerusalem to withdraw such missions from the Holy City

        Diplomatic Missions in Jerusalem:

        Belgium
        France
        Greece
        Italy
        Spain
        Sweden
        Turkey
        United Kingdom
        United States
        Armenia
        Austria
        Bolivia
        Croatia
        Czechia
        Denmark
        Dominican Republic
        Finland
        Guatemala
        Hungary
        Poland
        Romania
        Holy See

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_diplomatic_missions_in_Israel

      • Talkback
        Talkback
        January 6, 2019, 8:39 am

        Mondonut: “@Talkback, Those States that have established diplomatic missions at Jerusalem to withdraw such missions from the Holy City

        Diplomatic Missions in Jerusalem:”

        ROFL. Where does it say that these are “diplomatic” mission? That’s your invention. Did you even understand the first the three sentences of the article?

        “Diplomatic missions in Israel are foreign embassies and consulates in Israel. There are currently 88 embassies in Israel, of which 86 embassies are located in Tel Aviv and the Gush Dan Metropolitan Area and 2 embassies are located in Jerusalem. In addition to an embassy, some countries also maintain a consulate in other cities, including Eilat, Haifa or Jerusalem. In diplomatic practice, consulates are not considered to be diplomatic missions, requiring, for example, accreditation to the president.”

        So far it is only the United States and Guatamala. Another country which relies on the support of its evangelical nuts community.

        And then there’s that:
        “Strong military links

        Security cooperation was likely on his mind as well, because there has been a history of close military cooperation between Guatemala and Israel. It reached its peak in the 1970s and ’80s, when Israel sold Guatemala’s repressive military regime armored cars, artillery and guns, as well as supplying technicians and military advisers.

        Over the years, the Jewish state became, by many accounts, Guatemala’s main source of military supplies – filling a vacuum left by the United States in 1977 when then-President Jimmy Carter distanced itself from a country it believed to be a violator of human rights, suspending military aid and financial assistance.

        Israel sold weapons and defense systems to Guatemala on a larger scale in the Reagan era, helping the regime fight insurgents using Israeli-trained intelligence teams, security and communications specialists, and military training personnel in Guatemala. At the time, the human rights community looked askance at Israel using its expertise to train and help a police state repress insurgent groups and, most brutally, indigenous Mayan Indians.

        In the following decades, following the end of the Guatemalan civil war in 2000, the relationship between Israel and the Guatemalan military remained intact.

        The fact that Morales’ party, the National Convergence Front, was founded by a group of right-wing, retired army generals is likely another factor in Morales’ warm relationship toward Israel and his decision to announce the embassy move.”
        https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/why-guatemala-s-trump-will-move-his-countrys-embassy-to-jerusalem-1.5629598

        People of the same kind seem to stick together:
        “Human rights activists are stepping up efforts to expose Israel’s long and covert history of supplying weapons and military training to regimes while they actively commit massacres, ethnic cleansing and genocide.”
        https://www.jonathan-cook.net/2017-10-23/israel-maintains-robust-arms-trade-with-rogue-regimes/

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      January 2, 2019, 11:55 am

      I have read the NYT has spent an enormous amount on this investigation and while it struggled mighty hard to pin blame on Israel and the IDF it simply could not conclude the shot was anything but “reckless”.

      Wrong. That was the claim made by the Israelis who also admit the shooter violated Israeli military’s rules of engagement.

      The Israeli military’s rules of engagement are classified. But a spokesman, Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus, said that snipers may shoot only at people posing a violent threat, like “cutting the fence, throwing grenades.

      As for what the NYT concluded, all they stated is that they could not corroborate Israel’s claims.

      But The Times could not corroborate the army’s description of the second person it said was shot, which matched the time Ms. Najjar was killed.

      A term that could apply to any number of actions committed by both palestinians and Israeli soldiers in the midst of a chaotic and violent protest

      Wrong. The Palestinians were not firing at Israelis and as the article points out, the shot was fired during a calm period where no chaos ensued and the only violence was that at the hands of the Israelis.

      It’s clear you didn’t actually read the NYT piece in it’s entirety, but merely scanned the parts you could cherry pick to support your bias.

  6. Eva Smagacz
    Eva Smagacz
    January 2, 2019, 2:35 am

    @Jon66: “If we assume that the 1% figure is accurate then there is plenty of money to both pay for waste management and still have some left over.”

    This snippet of information is from Stephen Lendman – that was written in 2010!!!!

    So don’t blame Hamas – Israel knew what the consequences are for people of Gaza when it destroyed only power plant and restricted import of electricity:


    Gazaʼs sewage treatment plant requires 14 days of uninterrupted power to fully complete treatment cycles, impossible with daily outages, forcing release of 60 – 80 million liters of raw or partially treated waste into the Mediterranean to avoid flooding residential areas, at times flooded anyway.

    190/205

    • Shingo
      Shingo
      January 2, 2019, 11:27 am

      Gazaʼs sewage treatment plant requires 14 days of uninterrupted power to fully complete treatment cycles, impossible with daily outages,

      Of course Israel bombed Gaza’s only power station which according to John66 et all, is Hamas’ fault

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