Israeli soldiers attack 14-year-old Palestinian boy– he had no idea why he was beaten

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Israeli forces ‘attack East Jerusalem minor’ says soldiers beat and spat on him
BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) — A young Palestinian’s errand for his mother took a drastic turn late Friday after he accidentally crossed into the middle of a violent clash between locals and Israeli forces. Said Ali Qabalawi, 14, was subjected to a violent assault by Israeli troops in the town of Abu Dis, as he found himself in the wrong place while out buying milk for his baby sister. At about 9 p.m., Said says, he left a pharmacy that had run out of milk and began walking to another one further down the road. Soon, he was surrounded by Israeli troops clashing with residents. “The soldiers surrounded me, so I ran away jumping off a high wall. I couldn’t continue to run after the jump, and at that point I was caught. The soldiers attacked me brutally hitting me with rifle butts, kicking me and tearing my clothes off. I had no idea why they were beating me,” he told Ma’an.

Land and Property Theft and Destruction / Ethnic Cleansing / Apartheid / Refugees

Our beloved Tel Aviv, whose reputation for enlightenment and openness is world renowned, is built in part on ruined Palestinian villages – and refuses to acknowledge it.  A small metal sign adorns the tiny power station at the center of Jerusalem Boulevard, Jaffa: “T.P. Faisal.” It’s testament to a recent past that has been erased.

Israeli apartheid wall isolates Jerusalem
The Israeli occupation authorities (IOA) isolated Jerusalem from the northern and eastern sides with the construction of the last part of the Apartheid Wall in the area.

Col. Ofer Hindi tells Knesset committee that the Defense Ministry did not take the necessary steps to prevent a road near Givat Ze’ev from being expropriated from Palestinians.

Jordanian farmers in the Jordan Valley said the Zionist entity laid 10 inch diameter pipes to pump water from Jordan River to treatment plant in order to irrigate occupied lands.

Settlers are to occupy a room in a Palestinian house in Ras al-Amoud
Settlement Watch 1 Sept — For the settlers of Ras El-Amud in East Jerusalem, even 15 sq.m. room in an inhabited Palestinian apartment is enough in order to create facts on the ground. According to the court’s ruling, starting from tomorrow, September 2, the settlers are allowed to occupy one room at the Hamdallah family house in East Jerusalem. One who doesn’t know the story of the settlement in East Jerusalem may ask why would the settlers insist on entering such a small room in a Palestinian house and spend thousands of Shekels in many years of legal struggle. However, in East Jerusalem, this is how it works: This way, the life of the Hamdallah’s will become even more miserable, and with time, so hope the settlers, they will give up and leave the house. As soon as they leave, the settlers may replace the house with 20 new housing units.

Israeli forces raid fruit shop, confiscate 50,000 NIS of produce
Israeli forces and Jerusalem Municipality officers raided a fruit shop in Sultan Suliman Street in Jerusalem on Tuesday, 28 August. 50,000 NIS worth of produce was confiscated by officers, who gave the owners 24 hours to remove the umbrella at the shop’s entrance or face fines of 500 NIS. The Maswade family, who owns the store, were confronted by Israeli officers who confiscated vast amounts of produce and put them in trucks nearby. Officers claimed that the shop had extended beyond its legal limits under Israeli law.

Controversial outpost, the West Bank’s largest, scheduled to be completely evacuated by end of the day, following years of legal battles.
JERUSALEM (Reuters) — Jewish settlers began leaving the unauthorized outpost of Migron in the occupied West Bank on Sunday, the military said, obeying an Israeli supreme court order to vacate their homes by Tuesday. A number of families began moving out of their homes in the hilltop settlement of about 50 families in an orderly fashion, a spokeswoman said, although a few said they would remain and would not go voluntarily, an Israel Radio report added. A police spokesman said officers had started handing eviction orders to the families before dawn.
Source: situation of Palestinian refugees from Syria to Lebanon resolved
An official Palestinian source revealed that the legal status of Palestinian refugees displaced from Syria to Lebanon has been resolved through an understanding with the Lebanese General Security.


Baraka: Palestinians not involved in Syrian crisis
Hamas representative in Lebanon Ali Baraka confirmed that the Palestinians “will only be a calming factor in Lebanon, and they are keen to prevent any tension in the (refugee) camps.”

This year, while Palestinian refugees in Lebanon prepare to commemorate the 30th anniversary of the Sabra-Shatila massacre, the country is receiving thousands of refugees fleeing from Syria. We pray that, with international resolve, the conflict will end soon and the Syrian refugees will be able to return home. Sixty-four years ago, in 1948, Lebanon received another group of refugees; some of the 750,000 Palestinians fleeing the massacres and the destruction of the villages and towns in Palestine. They were put in tents and promised the right of return to their homes. But most of Palestine was renamed Israel and so the refugees and their descendents remain in Lebanon, dispersed in 12 official UN-run refugee camps, forming part of the 4 million-strong Palestinian diaspora worldwide today. For them, there was no enthusiasm from the Western powers to address the root cause of their dispossession and no practical support for their right to return to their ancestral homeland.
Israeli Terrorism
Two Injured As Army Bombards Gaza
Palestinian medical sources in the Gaza Strip reported that two residents were injured, on Saturday at dawn, after the Israeli army bombarded an area, north east of Gaza City.

Euro-Mid observer slams Israel for attacking Gaza fishermen
The Euro-Mid observer for human rights strongly denounced the Israeli navy for attacking Palestinian fishing boats off the coast of Gaza and deliberately exposing the lives of fishermen to danger.

BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) — A young Palestinian’s errand for his mother took a drastic turn late Friday after he accidentally crossed into the middle of a violent clash between locals and Israeli forces. Said Ali Qabalawi, 14, was subjected to a violent assault by Israeli troops in the town of Abu Dis, as he found himself in the wrong place while out buying milk for his baby sister.  At about 9 p.m., Said says, he left a pharmacy that had run out of milk and began walking to another one further down the road. Soon, he was surrounded by Israeli troops clashing with residents.  “The soldiers surrounded me, so I ran away jumping off a high wall. I couldn’t continue to run after the jump, and at that point I was caught. The soldiers attacked me brutally hitting me with rifle butts, kicking me and tearing my clothes off. I had no idea why they were beating me,” he told Ma’an.
RAMALLAH (Ma’an) — Israeli forces fired live ammunition at a demonstration in a West Bank village on Friday, activists and the Israeli army said. Medics said Malek Tamimi was shot in the hand with a live bullet and taken to the Palestine Medical Complex in Ramallah. An Israeli military spokeswoman told Ma’an that soldiers fired live ammunition in the air as warning shots after protesters surrounded soldiers and attacked them. 

Injuries Reported In Bil’in’s Weekly Protest Against The Wall
Palestinian medical sources in Bil’in, near the central West Bank city of Ramallah, reported that dozens of protesters suffered the effects of tear gas inhalation after the army fired gas bombs at them, and sprayed them with waste-water mixed with chemicals.

Firas Nahar Jama, 15, was arrested after Israeli soldiers invaded the village of Kufr Qaddoum during the weekly demonstration. Mahmood Nasir Batahan (10) was taken to the hospital after being hit by a tear-gas canister. Two others were treated on the scene after inhaling large amounts of tear-gas. The purpose of the weekly demonstration in Kufr Qaddoum is to protest the closure of the main road that connects the village with the city of Nablus. The road, which passes alongside the nearby illegal Israeli settlement of Kedumim was closed for Palestinian access and is only open to illegal Israeli settlers. As a result, the journey to the nearest city has increased from 15 minutes to 40 minutes. Kufr Qaddoum has also lost 4,000 durums of land to the 5 illegal Israeli settlements that surrounds the village. Farmers seeking to reach their lands face threats, attacks, and arrests. Some of the Palestinian-owned agricultural land has been declared as ‘closed military zones’, and Israeli settlers regularly sets fire to them.

IOF quells two marches in Beit Ummar and Yatta in al-Khalil
The Israeli occupation forces (IOF) suppressed on Saturday two marches against the segregation wall and settlements in the towns of Beit Ummar and Yatta in al-Khalil south of the occupied West Bank.

The occupation forces have continued a third consecutive week of nighttime raids and arrests against several villages in the West Bank of Palestine, carrying out a series of mass arrests against Palestinains claimed to be “wanted”, alleged to be members of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. On August 30, the Zionist occupation military stormed Awarta village near Nablus at 2 AM, arresting Mohammed Ghazi Abadat, Mahmoud Fathi Darawshe, Bahaa Darawshe, and Mazen Awad. They also raided the home of the martyr Jibril Awad, who was in his life a leader of the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades, the armed wing of the PFLP, and arrested his father and mother for several hours.
A new publication documents the violence, arrests, intimidation and harassment from the perspective of the perpetrators — the Israeli soldiers.

Army Opens Fire At Shepherds Herding Livestock In Gaza; 30 Sheep Killed
The Quds Press Media Agency reported Sunday that Israeli soldiers, stationed at military towers across the border, opened automatic fire at Palestinian shepherds herding their sheep in central Gaza, killing 30 sheep; the shepherds were not harmed.


26 attacks by Jewish settlers documented last month
Different human rights organizations were able to document last August 26 attacks by extremist Jewish settlers against Palestinians and their property in the West Bank.


Settlers Hurl Stones At Palestinian Homes In Jerusalem
Dozens of extremist Israeli settlers hurled stones and empty, on Saturday evening, at Palestinian homes in Shu’faat neighborhood, in occupied East Jerusalem, one resident was injured.

NABLUS (Ma’an) — Five Palestinians were wounded on Friday morning after a group of settlers threw stones at their bus near Ramallah, witnesses said. The bus was traveling from Nablus, when it was attacked by the settlers from a hill near Burqa village, one of those injured, Raed Ewais, said. Settlers threw stones, damaging the bus and injuring passengers, witnesses said. The incident came after settlers gathered on the same road on Thursday night near Sinjil, throwing stones at passing vehicles.
HEBRON (Ma’an) — Settlers attacked a vehicle in the Hebron town of Dura on Saturday, official news agency Wafa reported. Settlers from Nahal Negohot attacked a service taxi and its passengers near Dura, with the transit vehicle managing to escape, locals told Wafa. Settler attacks against Palestinians and their property is systematic in the occupied West Bank with the perpetrators rarely facing prosecution. Five Palestinians were wounded on Friday morning after a group of settlers threw stones at their bus near Ramallah, witnesses said.  
Look at this cliche title about Israel:  “Attacks on Arabs in Israel prompt soul-searching“.  Imagine if a story about KKK’s lynching was headlined: Blacks lynched. Klansmen engage in soul-searching.

Illegal Arrests / Hunger Strikers / Prisoner News
Israel abducted 208 Palestinians across the West Bank and Gaza over the month of August, according to a new report that monitors human rights abuses in the Occupied Territories. The Ahrar Center for Human Rights and Prisoner studies in its monthly report said 199 of the cases were from the West Bank, nine from Gaza, and one from inside Israel. Three of victims are women and several are children, the report said. Fuad al-Khuffash, director of center, said that some of them have been released, while others remain in custody. One of the detainees includes Asma al-Batran from Ethna village who previously spent 20 months in Israeli prison before being released in August 2009.
The Israeli Military Court at the Salem military base, north of the northern West Bank city of Jenin, sentenced, Thursday, a 16-year-old Palestinian child, from Ya’bod village, near Jenin, to 4 months imprisonment and NIS 3000 ($800) fine. The lawyer representing Ahmad Taleb Abu Baker, 16, filed for the release of his client, but the court turned the appeal down and sentenced the child to four months, and NIS 3000 fine, citing what the court called “security considerations”.  Also on Thursday, Israeli soldiers kidnapped a Palestinian youth while trying to cross a roadblock north of Jericho in the West Bank.  The Israeli Radio claimed that the soldiers searched the youth and found a “concealed knife”; he was taken to an unknown destination. On Thursday at dawn, Israeli soldiers invaded several Palestinian communities in the occupied West Bank and kidnapped 13 residents, including 3 children.

17 year old Palestinian female Afnan Ramadan sentenced to seven months imprisonment
An Israeli court sentenced a Palestinian young woman from the city of Al-Khalil to seven months imprisonment, the Tadamoun Foundation for Human Rights said on Saturday.

PA security arrest Majid al-Arouj and extend detention of Hammad al-Emla
The PA Preventive Security arrested in Bethlehem a supporter of Hamas movement Majid al-Arouj, while it extended the detention of prisoner Sheikh Hammad al-Emla held in its jails in al-Khalil.


The IOF kidnapped, on Thursday evening, Sheikh Yousef Ya’qoob al-Ajrab (47), a Hamas leader from the village of Kebya, south of Ramallah.

Soldiers Invade Jenin, Kidnap One Resident
Israeli soldiers invaded, on Saturday afternoon, Sielet Al-Harithiyya village, near the northern West Bank city of Jenin, and kidnapped one resident.


IOF carries out arrest campaign in Al-Khalil and Bethlehem
IOF arrested ten Palestinians, half of them children, and transferred them to interrogation centers under the pretext of being wanted by the Israeli intelligence for security reasons.


Hunger Striking Detainee Refuses To End His Strike In Exchange For Meds
The Palestinian Prisoners Society (PPS) reported that the clinic at the Ramla Prison is trying to bargain with an ailing hunger striking detainee, and told him that he will be able to get the needed injection should he end his strike.


An Israeli court in Jerusalem rejected on Thursday an appeal for the release of Samer Isawi (33 years), who was liberated in the Shalit exchange deal. A court hearing is slated for October.


AI warns of risk on lives of captives Barq and Safadi
Amnesty International warned of the deterioration of health conditions of Palestinian captives Samer al-Barq and Hassan al-Safadi, who are facing the risk of death due to their ongoing hunger strike.

The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine warned on August 31, 2012 that the occupation government is fully responsible for the life of Comrade Mohammad Rimawi, imprisoned in the Nafha occupation prison. He was transferred yesterday late at night to Soroka Hospital from the prison.
Former prisoner Samer Abu Seir, who was released from occupation prisons in October 2011 and deported to Gaza as part of the prisoner exchange, called on September 1 for active participation in upcoming events in Gaza in solidarity with Palestinian prisoners who are suffering from fierce attacks from occupation forces. He also called for broad participation in solidarity with Palestinian prisoners who remain on hunger strike in occupation prisons, and with Comrade Mohammad Rimawi, who is suffering from serious health crises.
Comrade Ahmad Sa’adat, the imprisoned General Secretary of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine said that the legacy of the martyr and leader Comrade Abu Ali Mustafa inspires the Front to continue to raise high the banner of resistance and continue on his path to achieve our national goals or die as martyrs.
Reactions to Rachel Corrie Verdict

U.N. official calls Israel’s verdict on Rachel Corrie ‘defeat for justice’
A U.N. official Thursday condemned an Israeli court finding that cleared the army of any blame for the death of U.S. peace activist Rachel Corrie as “a defeat for justice and accountability.”

The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine condemned the decision of the Zionist occupation court that acquitted the occupation army of all responsibility in its murder of American solidarity activist Rachel Corrie, who was crushed by an occupation bulldozer in southern Gaza in 2003 as she was defending a Palestinian home from demolition.

Anti-wall marches held in solidarity with slain activist Rachel Corrie

Some anti-wall marches of the West Bank on Friday afternoon were dedicated to advocating the issue of slain peace activist Rachel Corrie who was crushed brutally to death by an Israeli bulldozer.

Tuesday 28 August was an extraordinary day for the BBC, even by its own low standards of reporting on Palestine. This was the day an Israeli court absolved the State of Israel of any responsibility for the death of Rachel Corrie, the 23-year-old American activist who was crushed to death by an Israeli armored bulldozer in Gaza in 2003. BBC Radio 4’s World at One program ran a seven-minute segment on the court’s decision, including an interview with Israeli government spokesperson Mark Regev. Partway through this interview, the BBC presenter, Martha Kearney, made this astonishing claim: “Clearly Rachel Corrie was one of the casualties of what happened that day, and I know Israeli soldiers died too.”
An Israeli court ruling that Rachel Corrie was responsible for her own death is a manifestation of the disregard for human rights that dominates all Israeli institutions.
On August 28th, the day that an Israeli Judge absolved the military of any responsibility in the 2003 killing of peace activist Rachel Corrie as she stood to protect a Palestinian home from demolition, the majority of the small Palestinian village of Khirbet Zanuta was demolished.  In the South Hebron Hills, the Israeli military destroyed homes, animal shelters and water wells. Villagers tried unsuccessfully to stop the demolition by sitting on the excavator’s shovel.   Eight villages in the region are currently at risk of evacuation because the Israeli military intends to use the area for military exercises.
Israeli Racism and Discrimination
Solidarity activists disrupt Jerusalem municipality session, chaired by Mayor Nir Barkat, a pillar of discrimination on all levels against Jerusalem’s Palestinian residents. Barkat’s statements reflect a view of Palestinians as a demographic threats. This racism underlies the mob attacks on Palestinian youths in central West Jerusalem. 
Activism / BDS
Here’s the website for Bay Area Stop $30 Billion Military Aid to Israel. The group members are not identified, but our own Annie Robbins has played a role. Remember that Muni is in hot water right now over the Islamophobic “Savage” ads that it ran from Pam Geller. A coalition of groups, including the American Muslims for Palestine, the Council of American Islamic Relations, the Asian Law Caucus and Jewish Voices for Peace compelled Muni to run a disclaimer from those ads. And Muni is working on a counter campaign to promote understanding of Muslims. 
Political Developments / Other News

IOF to impose buffer zone near the Egyptian border
Israeli occupation forces (IOF) announced plans to impose a buffer zone at the borders with Egypt in light of the volatile security situation in the Sinai Peninsula, Hebrew media revealed.

Northern Command officials say Israel is wary that a large-scale conflict will erupt within Lebanon and that Hezbollah would take advantage of the situation on the border.
GAZA CITY (Ma’an) — The Gaza Strip is not a threat to Egypt’s security, prime minister Ismail Haniyeh said Saturday. Haniyeh made the comments while meeting with a security delegation in the coastal enclave, a statement said. The Gaza premier applauded Egypt’s treatment of the Palestinian people and Gazans in particular, adding that Gaza can be a source of security and cooperation for Egypt. Relations between Egypt’s new government led by President Muhammad Mursi and Hamas had deteriorated since an attack in which gunmen killed 16 Egyptian soldiers on the Israeli border in early August.  Egypt closed the Rafah crossing and moved to seal myriad smuggling tunnels with Gaza on suspicion they might have been used by militants who shot dead the soldiers.
In contrast to former Mossad and Shin Bet chiefs Meir Dagan and Yuval Diskin, Efraim Halevy speaks not in black-and-white but in shades of gray, writes Ari Shavit.

US scales down military exercise with Israel: report
The United States has significantly scaled down a planned joint military exercise with Israel most likely because of disagreements on how to deal with Iran’s nuclear ambitions, Time magazine has reported on its website.

BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has stressed his country’s commitment to reconciliation between estranged Palestinian factions, his office said Friday, days after invitations to Iran strengthened a rift between Hamas and Fatah parties. Ahmedinejad told President Mahmoud Abbas on Thursday: “We love Palestine, and we are committed to achieve Palestinian national reconciliation as it will contribute to the Palestinian resistance.” 
BETHLEHEM (Ma’an) — The final statement of the Non-Aligned Movement summit will confirm the rights of Palestinian refugees, President Mahmoud Abbas’ diplomatic adviser said Friday. The 120-member Non-Aligned Movement is expected to issue a 680-clause statement on Friday. Majdi al-Khaldi said the closing statement would affirm the right of Palestinian refugees to return to their homes, as outlined in UN resolution 194 and international law. 
Iranian president suggested that reconciliation talks between Fatah and Hamas be held in Tehran; Abbas said he would consider such a visit in the future.
A Palestinian parliamentary delegation has spent the week in South Africa following an official invitation from their South African peers. The delegation met with South Africa’s Deputy Foreign Minister, Ibrahim Ibrahim, as well as the Minister of Public Works. Chaired by Dr. Ahmed Bahar, the senior Deputy Chairman of the Palestinian Legislative Council, the delegation included elected PLC members Dr. Marwan Abu Ras and Gamila El-Shanti, as well as Nafez El-Madhoun, the PLC’s Secretary General.
RAMALLAH (Ma’an) — The Palestinian Authority said Friday that recent statements by Israel’s far-right foreign minister were incitement and he should be charged in international courts for his extremism. Avigdor Lieberman has “crossed every red line in his continuous incitement against (President Mahmoud) Abbas when he called for Abbas’ assassination,” the PA information ministry said.  Lieberman did not call for Abbas’ assassination but he has urged new Palestinian elections to oust the president in the hopes of finding a more amiable negotiating partner. 
London’s Al-Sharq Al-Awsat says Gaza government is trying to curb radicals’ terror activities fearing Israeli operation.

Hamas ‘to ban pornographic sites’
Hamas, the Palestinian Islamist group that controls Gaza, is to block access to pornographic websites to protect social and moral values, local media say.

Analysis / Op-ed
Tunisia – For the past three months, the Arab Maghreb countries have been witnessing a growing number of controversies and scandals concerning cells linked to Israeli espionage activities. It began when an informants network was dismantled in Mauritania early this year. Then Mossad made the headlines in Algeria and Morocco in a string of reports, rumors, and hoaxes. Finally, a new scandal reverberated across Tunisia last week involving a wide network of Mossad operations, including espionage centers using the country as a base to spy across the Maghreb region. Abderraouf al-Ayadi, head of the Wafa Movement which split from the Rally for the Republic (RPR), caused a huge stir last week when he revealed that Mossad has stepped up its activities in post-revolutionary Tunisia.
“On another front, every American is less secure today because he has failed to slow Iran’s nuclear threat. In his first TV interview as president, he said we should talk to Iran. We’re still talking and Iran’s centrifuges are still spinning. President Obama has thrown allies like Israel under the bus, even as he has relaxed sanctions on Castro’s Cuba.”
Continuing to push daylight between presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s position on Israel and President Obama’s, the Republican National Committee played a one-minute and 35-second campaign ad that, accompanied by dramatic music, re-states that Jerusalem is “the capital of Israel.”
When Mitt Romney walked down the aisle toward the stageThursday night, among the people whose hands he shook was the conservative billionaire and major political donor David Koch. But it was a moment missed by the tens of millions of viewers at home. While Democracy Now! was there on the floor and captured the handshake on video, the networks cut away just before the handshake to show footage of two enthusiastic young women supporters and then an overhead shot of the convention center. Then, the shot came back to Romney shaking hands further down the aisle as he ascended the stage. Groups in the network of David Koch, and his brother Charles, intend to spend nearly $400 million ahead of the 2012 election. 
“Moreover, Obama responded to Israel’s obduracy by offering it F-35 fighter jets and other goodies. The U.S. president has since coddled Israel, extending additional military assistance and vetoing U.N. resolutions criticizing settlement activity. He also opposed the Palestinian initiative for statehood last September, delivering the most pro-Israel American speech ever at the U.N. And though it seems of no importance in Washington, the Palestinians are as far from freedom from Israeli subjugation as ever.  Meanwhile, Obama’s opponent, Mitt Romney, who held a big-money fund-raiser in Jerusalem last month, said last December that when it comes to Palestinian-Israeli policy, “I’d get on the phone to my friend Bibi Netanyahu and say: ‘Would it help if I said this? What would you like me to do?’ ”
I’m on the mailing list of Rabinowitz-Dorf, which works for the Democratic Party (and which was hired to help rehabilitate the Democratic-Party-affiliated Center for American Progress when it got into trouble for running pieces criticizing the Israel lobby). And here are two recent communications from my friend there. 
Next week Ethan Bronner, a NY Times reporter who till recently was the Jerusalem bureau chief for the newspaper,  is speaking about “My Israel” and his transformative experience with respect to the country, and the $75 donation goes to the New Israel Fund.

Review: tortured optimism in Raja Shehadeh’s “Occupation Diaries”, Sarah Irving
Both Israel and the Palestinian Authority come under sharp criticism in Raja Shehadeh’s Occupation Diaries.

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He had no idea because there was no reason other than he is of that land which deems him an enemy to the racist supremacist occupiers.

When i was his age i was often in hospital, and i was scared to death of the nuns that were the nurses in the hospital.

Today i thank god that they were not IOF “nurses”.

Israeli soldiers attack 14-year-old Palestinian boy– he had no idea why he was beaten

Anne Frank had no idea why she had to die.

Both had to suffer for the same reason.