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Undermining Kerry, Democratic Rep Engel says West Bank is Israel

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The ad at the bottom right says Kerry is against and Sharon was for keeping the Jordan Valley in Israeli hands. At the bottom of the ad it reads, “No surrender to Kerry.  A second similar ad which featured former Foreign Minister, Abba Eban and Kerry, appeared on another page of the paper.

Word from the Arabic, Hebrew and English press is that the once much-touted framework agreement that U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has promised would create a meaningful pathway toward a final status agreement and that would be accompanied by a celebratory signing ceremony, has run aground.

A recent leak in Al Hayat claims that Kerry’s hope for what he now refers to as an “agreed upon framework,” has become a vague document that both sides will be able to interpret as they wish.   Other sources said that the document will be either non-binding (this actually comes from Netanyahu), or unsigned, or be characterized as only American suggestions.  It is not even clear if the paper that will be unveiled in Amman by the end of this month will be made public.  All of this works to the detriment of the Palestinians, who still appear willing to continue negotiations despite their justified accusations that Kerry is hewing very closely to the Israeli positions.

Despite the fact that Kerry is presenting mostly Israeli-friendly demands, the U.S. Secretary faced some stiff opposition last week from Israelis who oppose any U.S.-brokered accord and view Kerry as misguided and his plans as inimical to their ability to retain their illegal settlements.

A week of pushback against Kerry  started when a newspaper published off-the-record  intemperate remarks by Moshe “Bogie” Ya’alon, the Israeli Defense Minister, who called John Kerry  “obsessive” and “messianic,” among other ill-chosen insults.

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Anti Kerry protesters in Israel. The sign at the top says, “Oslo 3 is already here,” which is a reference to the failed Oslo peace process.  The lower banners say, “No surrender to Kerry.”

On Thursday a well-financed settler group began a series of newspaper ads, and announced the launch of a massive billboard campaign attacking the U.S. Secretary of State.

Young activists from the group, whose campaign is named, “Guard the nation, no surrendering to Kerry,” demonstrated at crowded intersections Saturday.  The demonstrators carried signs, chanted, sang and handed out literature.  Newspaper accounts indicated  that protests took place at “dozens” of locations– though from the photographs and videos on the net it appeared that only a handful of people were at each location.

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Yesh Atid demonstrators. Finance Minister, Yair Lapid is second from the left. The sign behind him says, “Separate from the Palestinians.”

In reaction to the right-wing activists, two different groups demonstrated in support of Kerry’s initiative.  Members of the centrist political party “Yesh Atid,” which is a part of the governing coalition and has given strong public support to the Kerry negotiations, mounted a counter demonstration.  Their motto is (irony alert!) the heartwarming, “Separate from the Palestinians.”  Their party leader, Yair Lapid, rejects the Palestinian demand for a capital in East Jerusalem, so the ability of his party to help achieve an agreement is severely compromised.

Activists from the so-called leftist political party, Meretz, also hit the streets, demonstrating in support of the Kerry negotiations.  Unlike “Yesh Atid,” Meretz has been highly critical of Prime Minister Netanyahu, questioning his desire to negotiate in good faith.

Jewish Democratic Rep. Eliot Engel Weighs in Against Kerry, Obama

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Rep. Eliot Engel

Although the rightwing Israel lobby currently has its hands tied attempting to subvert the Iran nuclear agreement,  it is probably only a matter of time before it gets after Kerry and makes a serious attempt to obstruct the Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations.  Three U.S. Senators already have showed up in Jerusalem during a particularly intense recent Kerry visit in order to echo the concerns of the Israel Prime Minister.  They were Republicans. However, as in the Iran debate, Democrats are sure to bolt from their President to back the Israeli cause.

Rep. Eliot Engel, a Jewish Democrat from the Bronx, New York, made his opposition to the Kerry Israel plan clear in an Israeli Hebrew- only  newspaper.  On Saturday, the right-wing  daily Ma’ariv ran a story titled, “Bogie [Defense Minister, Moshe Ya’alon], We Are at Your Side: Also Friends of Obama are Against Kerry.”  The article claimed that many U.S. Representatives and Senators, even Democrats, are opposed to the Kerry Israel-Palestine peace initiative, but only actually mentioned two names, Reps. Brad Sherman (CA) and Eliot Engel (NY).

The Ma’ariv piece does include numerous lengthy quotes from Rep. Engel, in which he states that Kerry should not be presenting a document based on U.S. ideas and surely should not be exerting any pressure on the Israelis.  At least he did not agree with Ya’alon’s assertions that Kerry is messianic and too eager to get the parties to sign an accord.

Engel proudly opposes the notion, which is a U.S.-Israel policy mantra, that the settlements are an obstacle to peace.  Engel is sticking with Kerry and Obama by opposing the proposed Iran Sanctions Bill.

Here are some of Engel’s direct quotes from the article.

“It is not appropriate that Kerry will present an American document that will put pressure on Israel to accept dictates from anyone.”

“I am against any group or country that will impose a settlement.  A settlement must be signed as a result of a negotiation between the sides, and not because of an external force.”

“The international community was never fair to Israel.  Apart from the United States, the European states and the Quartet usually attack Israel at every opportunity.  Look what those nations do at the U.N.”

Question: Kerry should stop his scuttle back and forth and return to Washington?

“No.  I do not feel that way.  I only think that he does not need to come here with all the specific recommendations or a framework document.  I know John Kerry well, he is a friend of Israel and I trust him, but he has created the impression that he is eager to get an agreement.”

Question:  Too eager, messianic?

“No.  I would not say that he is too eager, but in Israel there are many people who think differently than he does and their concerns are different than his. I feel that if the sides will reach an agreement, excellent, but if not, a bad agreement will be worse than no agreement at all.”

On the phrase, ‘The settlements are an obstacle to peace.’  [IG]

“I never use that formulation, ‘obstacle to peace.’  My heart tells me that every Jew has the right to live in any place in Israel and that includes Judea and Samaria.   That does not mean that ignoring the location and timing, and announcing building tenders at all times is the correct thing to do.

“I believe that now, building in isolated settlements is not a good thing for Israel to do.  It plays into the hands of the Palestinians; they exploit it in order to show the world how Israel is not apparently interested in a peaceful solution.  Settlement building like that creates a distorted picture of Israel in the world.”

Question:  Are you opposed to Obama’s policies in regard to the settlements?

(Engel suppresses a smile)  “That is not the only issue where I oppose Obama.  I think that he is a friend of Israel and that he did great things for Israel, the Iron Dome, for example, or the difficult struggle at the U.N. against the resolution to declare a Palestinian state, and even using the veto.  But I do not think that the settlements are an obstacle to peace.  In this matter he [Obama] needs to act cleverly.”

Translation mine — IG.

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Q: New York Democratic Congressperson Eliot Engel criticizes Kerry and Obama in an Israeli Hebrew language newspaper. “My heart tells me that every Jew has the right to live in any place in Israel and that includes Judea and Samaria…

R: Who gave the New York Angel the ‘right’ to hand out ‘rights’ halfway around the globe. At lest the Commonwealth didn’t come into being based upon some vague scriptures, but still it’s ordinary land theft what happened over time.

Do you believe this will happen?….I dont…I’d like to but I dont.
I think Washington will do the donkey for US I-Firstdom till its dong falls off.
Unless we get one hell of a President who doesnt give a damn about the Dem or Repub party in the WH.

John Kerry’s peace plan is the very last time that Israel will be offered an agreement sympathetic to its concerns.

By S. Daniel Abraham | Jan. 19, 2014 | 3:48 PM |
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.569371

”My many years of involvement in the peace process teach me that the approaching decision is unlike previous ones. This is a watershed moment after which Israel will face a completely different situation – one which will be governed by new realities much less favorable than those Israel faces today.

If this round of negotiations fails, the United States will probably disengage from further attempts to bring about an Israeli-Palestinian agreement. The vacuum will be filled by other actors such as the UN Security Council. Unlike the United States, these actors have no great affection for Israel. Israeli interests will not receive as much positive attention as they do when Washington is in charge of the political process.
If Kerry’s mission fails, Israel will be mistaken to assume that America will automatically veto every decision brought to the UN Security Council. Especially if such decisions correspond more or less to Washington’s perception of the solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Israel will discover that America’s patience with friends who demand its help while simultaneously ignore its interests is shorter than before. And it’s no secret that the United States believes that the continuation of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict significantly harms U.S. national security interests. ”

U.S. demographics are changing and as a result the automatic sympathy Israel enjoys in the U.S. has greater potential of eroding. ”

I hope the pushback works. It is all or nothing for them at this stage and nothing is waiting for them at the end of the iterations.

Supporters of Israeli expansionism show how well brainwashing works.

“In conclusion, the biggest obstacle 2 adapting US foreign policy 2 current realities is the Zionist Power Configuration embedded in the Congress, the Administration & the mass media”: http://petras.lahaine.org/?p=1965