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First they came for Alan Dershowitz

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First they came for me in Martha’s Vineyard,
But I was in Nantucket.
Then they came for me in Nantucket,
But I was in Cape Cod.
Then they came for me in Cape Cod,
But I was in Bar Harbor.
Then they came for me in Bar Harbor,
But I was in the Hamptons.
Then they came for me in the Hamptons,
But I was in … Coney Island.
Coney Island!
I no longer cared what befell me.

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Norman Finkelstein
About Norman G. Finkelstein

Norman G. Finkelstein received his doctorate in 1988 from the Department of Politics at Princeton University. He taught political theory and the Israel-Palestine conflict for many years and currently writes and lectures. Finkelstein's books have been translated into 50 foreign editions. His latest is "Gaza: An Inquest Into Its Martyrdom" (University of California Press, January 2018).

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  1. Marnie
    Marnie
    July 11, 2018, 10:54 am

    Katie – this is a masterpiece! Douchewitz in a thong on a rubber ducky.

  2. Kay24
    Kay24
    July 11, 2018, 12:11 pm

    A great cartoon, and truly deserved by the Dirt Bag. Like all loud mouths, he can dish out but could not take it at Martha’s Vineyard.

  3. Ejosephweixel
    Ejosephweixel
    July 11, 2018, 12:39 pm

    Norman Finkelstein sharp as a tack.

  4. Liz
    Liz
    July 11, 2018, 1:09 pm

    Brilliant!

  5. echinococcus
    echinococcus
    July 11, 2018, 2:09 pm

    Sure, it’s good, vintage Finkelstein. Very nice job.

    But then one has to start wondering. Most of us always believed the ultimate sacred cow to be “Israel”. What do you know.
    The real unslaughterables today are the libruls. The Mac-using PC, bless their greedy, warmongering eyes. WWIII is no problem, just keep the decorum.

    It sure feels good to bash the Dershow no matter the pretext but it would have better not to have the same kind of sh|t on both sides.

    • Mooser
      Mooser
      July 11, 2018, 4:22 pm

      “The real unslaughterables today are the libruls. The Mac-using PC, bless their greedy, warmongering eyes..”

      Darn you, Jobs and Wozniak!

      • gamal
        gamal
        July 12, 2018, 4:19 pm

        “Darn you, Jobs and Wozniak!”

        do you really wanna know about Hard Times

        we buck up ona hard times…3 stone a the fire…the have all have all the have none have none…we buck upon hard times….

        when i was youth i used burn collie weed in a rizla now i am a man i burn it in chalwa..

        https://youtu.be/W3G4jJ9kHQs

    • Keith
      Keith
      July 11, 2018, 7:11 pm

      ECHINOCOCCUS- “The real unslaughterables today are the libruls.”

      Speaking of which, John Steppling over at CounterPunch has an amusing and informative article on the current liberal belief in political miracles. The whole article is well worth the read. A quote and a link.

      “I keep watching the ways in which people, left leaning liberals anyway, and even some I thought were leftists, fall over themselves to believe in the Alexandria Ocasio Cortez victory. Now, I don’t believe, I should make clear. But I find what is interesting is the ways in which this story became a kind of fairy tale and found traction. First, it’s New York. If this occurs in Port Huron or Tampa or Bakersfield — there is no story. Secondly, this woman came out of the Democratic Party machine, out of Ted Kennedy’s office and Bernie Sanders campaign. Does that not tell you something? But third, there is something curious about her whole story. And her web page says her father was a small business owner and other places it says he is an architect. None of this matters, mind you, except that she is certainly not well known in the Bronx by activists or anyone else. She strikes me, personally, as culturally a Westchester County product, not the Bronx. And I guess I find her a bit too telegenic, too perfect an image. Not to mention she is already parroting DNC rhetoric about Russiagate and already making friendly with the fascist opposition against Venezuela. One would think a Latina would know better, no? The U.S. is, after all, on the verge of a possible military intervention in Venezuela — and house and senate Democrats are perfectly aligned with this thinking. When did anyone last hear a Democrat voice support for the Bolivarian revolution? Then there is the fact that her most intense support came from white affluent gentrifiers in her district. So a radical she is not.” (John steppling) https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/07/11/the-wisdom-of-serpents/

      • Citizen
        Citizen
        July 12, 2018, 5:50 am

        Ocasio Cortez’s web site originally contained an information block on foreign policy which included a stance in support of the Palestinian people. Upon her victory breaking news, said information block vanished.

      • Tuyzentfloot
        Tuyzentfloot
        July 12, 2018, 10:18 am

        Upon her victory breaking news, said information block vanished.

        briefly. I think it’s this page https://ocasio2018.com/issues#a-peace-economy .

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        July 12, 2018, 10:38 am

        Citizen,

        That foreign policy statement did come back to the site (following protests) as I reported
        https://mondoweiss.net/2018/06/insurgent-anymore-palestinian/#comment-921840

        But It’s hard to believe it was an innocent glitch (especially with “supporter-run” web sites (?)

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        July 12, 2018, 8:16 pm

        Tuyzentfloot

        It’s not anywhere on the link you posted.
        It only makes an appearance if you switch to “English”.
        Going back to the full Spanish-language page, not a single word on anything international except Porto Rico.

        I’ll be danged. Now this really starts looking like a special operation.

      • Tuyzentfloot
        Tuyzentfloot
        July 13, 2018, 3:49 am

        Echinococcus,

        With me the link points straight to the english page , to the subject ‘A Peace Economy’.
        That is the part which had disappeared, as is explained here http://washingtonsblog.com/2018/06/why-it-matters-that-peace-is-gone-from-ocasio-cortez-website.html .

        Now you can have a glass half full/half empty discussion about Cortez, or a revolutionary/small steps discussion, but the returning issue about the missing page is nothing more than building up distrust based on nothing.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        July 13, 2018, 1:09 pm

        It still goes direct to the Spanish page when I click; can’t understand how you get English on the same link unless they classify the reader with initial cookies; anyhow, there is still no mention at all of any FP except the separate P.Rico chapter in the Spanish part. Spanish is her constituency’s main language.

        The distrust is based on the usual sheepdogging MO of the Democrat Party. While we don’t know whether she’s subjectively a Don Quijote like Kucinich or a consummate embezzler like Sanders, the attention-gathering “bold” statement followed by immediate walking-back and wishy-washiness has been a constant with the latter kind, take anyone like Jackson, etc.

      • Tuyzentfloot
        Tuyzentfloot
        July 13, 2018, 4:14 pm

        Echinococcus,
        I could reproduce that, at some point it also went straight to the spanish page. So it’s a bit amateuristic.
        I think what you’re applying is confirmation bias. It doesn’t make your predictions wrong about what will happen, they are plausible, but the clues from which you conclude that Cortez is more of the same, they aren’t worth anything. You’re selling a prediction as a deduction.

        I also think your predictions are off because
        – the adapting of a new politician with a popular base to the system is much more gradual than that so the hypothetical scenario is implausible, even if decent arguments were given. It’s much too soon.
        – times change. For the same politician what is impossible to say at one stage become possible 10 years later. For instance it becomes possible to be critical about Israel. I think it becomes possible to say that 17 years of war with Afghanistan is enough.

      • annie
        annie
        July 13, 2018, 4:37 pm

        Tuyzentfloot, your link went straight to english for me. lots of bullies out to get her and crowley won’t take his name off the ballot, so maybe they’re going full throttle to take her out early in the games, who knows.

        but the clues from which you conclude that Cortez is more of the same, they aren’t worth anything.

        to me either.

        i just watched a great interview with her here.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        July 13, 2018, 8:17 pm

        Tuyzentfloot,

        Well, it means a returning reader already has a cookie directing him to the language first chosen,

        That is unimportant. I am saying it for the third time: There is no mention anywhere on the Spanish page of the foreign policy statement. At least as of this morning. And to me that is ominous., because that’s the heart of the story.

        Also, one doesn’t have to eat sh|t every single day to know it’s the same serving as yesterday, cooked better. I am not saying this Nth avatar isn’t sincere, intelligent, all those beautiful things. But she is out collecting votes for the main administrative organ of US imperialism and war of aggression. Not gonna discuss that further, just hope she keeps her position on Palestine and commits it to writing.

    • Tuyzentfloot
      Tuyzentfloot
      July 13, 2018, 6:07 pm

      Annie, I’m watching it. She’s impressive indeed. Says some smart stuff about not watering down your stances, that it’s self defeating. And about the aim of getting people to vote. About Obama voters who then voted for Trump. Lots of stuff.
      I’ve watched her interview with Greenwald, though i missed parts of it then.

      • annie
        annie
        July 13, 2018, 10:13 pm

        tuyzentfloot, most people in the country don’t vote. the dem party is ripe for an overthrow. not sure that could happen without an influx of new left voters. the alternative is a new party, or parties.

  6. Citizen
    Citizen
    July 11, 2018, 3:44 pm

    Dershie was on Hannity last night; he had a new short hair cut and smiled with a quiver as Hannity praised him to the sky for sticking with intellectual integrity on principle against the fake news Democrat scoundrels.
    And Hannity peddled Dershie’s latest book.

    • JWalters
      JWalters
      July 11, 2018, 7:40 pm

      Equal opportunity con artists.

      • drhmay
        drhmay
        July 12, 2018, 9:21 am

        Dershowitz is hardly a con artist. Instead, a brilliant contrarian and intellectual who loves to debate and explore BOTH sides of an argument seeking truth. He welcomes those who oppose him and are willing to challenge in a heated but civil manner. As to the Martha’s Vineyard issue, he was quite tongue and cheek bemused, not hurt, by it when he spoke last evening.

      • Misterioso
        Misterioso
        July 12, 2018, 11:04 am

        @Peacedoc

        “Dershowitz is hardly a con artist. Instead, a brilliant contrarian and intellectual who loves to debate and explore BOTH sides of an argument seeking truth.”

        Get educated!!
        https://www.counterpunch.org/2007/04/30/dershowitz-v-finkelstein-who-s-right-and-who-s-wrong/

        APRIL 30, 2007
        “Dershowitz v. Finkelstein: Who’s Right and Who’s Wrong?” by FRANK J. MENETREZ

      • John O
        John O
        July 12, 2018, 11:32 am

        @Peacedoc. “[Dershowitz] loves to debate and explore BOTH sides of an argument seeking truth.” Yeah, his defence of OJ is a great example of that.

      • Eva Smagacz
        Eva Smagacz
        July 21, 2018, 4:02 am

        Peacedoc was being sarcastic, and you fell for this….

        Nowadays I use (/sarcasm), to clarify for those who do not know my writing.

  7. Kay24
    Kay24
    July 11, 2018, 4:51 pm

    So once again Ireland shows the way. Great job Ireland, especially Senator Frances Black.

    “Ireland moves to ban Israeli goods from occupied Palestinian territories
    Senator Frances Black says the bill should show Ireland to be on the right side of ‘international law, human rights and justice”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ireland-ban-israel-products-occupied-palestinian-territories-seanad-dail-frances-black-a8442261.html

    • John O
      John O
      July 11, 2018, 6:08 pm

      A bit more detail at the Guardian:

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/11/irish-senate-approves-ban-on-products-from-israeli-settlements

      The bill does not mention Israel by name, as it is aimed at any occupying power that plants illegal settlers. Nice one, Frances.

      • drhmay
        drhmay
        July 12, 2018, 9:27 am

        Except it ignores Turkey in Cyprus, Russia in the Ukraine, China in Tibet, etc; or more importantly any criticism of the heinous deeds from the PA & Hamas inspired pay for slay Islamists. OK as always to bash the Jews to feel good about yourself, . Selective morality or antisemitism?
        Or hypocrisy. Maybe all three.

      • eljay
        eljay
        July 12, 2018, 10:47 am

        || Peacedoc: Except it ignores Turkey in Cyprus, Russia in the Ukraine, China in Tibet, etc … ||

        It doesn’t ignore anyone because it doesn’t name anyone.

        || … the PA & Hamas … ||

        …are not occupying powers.

        || … Selective morality … hypocrisy. … ||

        Yes, those are fundamental Zionist traits.

      • echinococcus
        echinococcus
        July 12, 2018, 11:37 am

        Peacedocument is a bit confused:

        While Turkey certainly practices settler colonialism in Cyprus, Russia and China are not occupying powers, while the “PA” is officially the occupiers’ police force, and Hamas doesn’t have enough means to buy a popgun, let alone occupy and colonize any foreign territory. The Zionist entity is officially a colonizing occupier, even for the colonial powers that run the UN.

        What “the Jews” were doing in that message is unclear.

        So we should support Peacedocument’s suggestion where it applies and insist on boycotting both the Zionists and Turkey.

      • oldgeezer
        oldgeezer
        July 12, 2018, 12:37 pm

        @Peacedoc

        Turkey went into Cyrprus in order to protect civilians against genocide. Turkey has agreed to the international peace plan. Greece is the holdout.

        Russia is under sanctions for it’s actions in the Ukraine. Israel should also be under sanctions. Sanctions make boycotts irrelevant to a very large extent.

        Tibet is not recognized as having been independent from China for over 700 years. It is not recognized as occupied by other governments.

        BDS is the appropriate response to Israeli crimes. I look forward to the day when it is met with full blown sanctions by the international community.

        Currently is singled out by governments ignoring it’s depraved crimes against humanity. No more singling out Israel. Treat it according to the law.

      • Kay24
        Kay24
        July 12, 2018, 1:51 pm

        Peacedoc, the zionists deserved to be bashed here. They are ruthlessly wiping out these poor occupied people, and killing unarmed kids viciously. It is time to Boycott the criminals. Whataboutery does not work anymore.

      • Mooser
        Mooser
        July 12, 2018, 6:39 pm

        “Whataboutery does not work anymore.”

        “Peacedoc” should read: “How To Make The Case For Israel, and WIN!” to give him the other half wit he needs to prevail.

    • JWalters
      JWalters
      July 11, 2018, 7:45 pm

      One of the first acts of the Continental Congress in 1776 was to BOYCOTT all British goods, and prohibit the shipment of key American goods to Britain.

      • Misterioso
        Misterioso
        July 12, 2018, 11:25 am

        @Peacedoc

        “Selective morality or antisemitism? Or hypocrisy. Maybe all three.”

        You should change your nom de plume to “Whataboutery.”

        I remind you that the subject at hand is the Guardian Article titled
        “Irish senate approves ban on products from Israeli settlements.”

    • captADKer
      captADKer
      July 12, 2018, 1:02 pm

      whatever this manifest irish initiation of national anti semitism has to do w/professer dershowitz,
      is beyond me-going nowhere.
      it is grand to have beer doused on this deviant act of biblical revenge and yours as cowards and spectators –

      [Despite the legislation’s passage in the Irish Senate, it faces an uphill battle in the Dail, or Ireland’s lower house, which is controlled by the center-right Fine Gael Party that opposes the legislation.

      Speaking in the Senate on Wednesday, Irish Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade Simon Coveney of the Fine Gael Party, said that such a boycott is logistically impossible due to Ireland’s trade being tied up within the larger European Union, and that Ireland should not push ahead of the international community on the issue, “however strongly it might appeal to our sense of right.”]

      He also noted that the legislation may also violate E.U. law that all members have a common commercial policy.

  8. gamal
    gamal
    July 11, 2018, 10:36 pm

    even the defunct an phoblacht anticipated the vote…

    “Senator Ó Donnghaile described the existence of settlements as a war crime and said the Irish government must comply with diplomatic and economic sanctions against the state of Israel.

    “The Irish government cannot on the one hand condemn these illegal colonial settlements and on the other hand freely trade with them.

    “This is the time for action and to make history. We have a duty to not only condemn Israel’s illegal occupation and aggression against the Palestinian people.”

    He continued: “I am calling on all Seanadoirí from all political parties to support this Bill and make a stand for justice, rights and peace in Palestine.” ”

    http://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/27411

  9. Jackdaw
    Jackdaw
    July 12, 2018, 2:15 am

    M….i…..c……..k….e….yyyyyy.
    M..O.. U.. S.. EEEEEEE.

  10. Ossinev
    Ossinev
    July 12, 2018, 10:47 am

    @Peacedoc(LOL)
    ” Selective morality or antisemitism?
    Or hypocrisy. Maybe all three”

    Snap = Selective morality or Zionism or hypocrisy. Maybe all three.

    Oops forgot selective whataboutery.

  11. John O
    John O
    July 12, 2018, 11:38 am

    @Peacedoc. “PA & Hamas inspired pay for slay Islamists.”

    OK as always to bash the Muslims to feel good about yourself.

    • Kay24
      Kay24
      July 12, 2018, 1:52 pm

      Not only bash here, but kill unarmed kids over there. You don’t hear Peacedoc and his ilk utter a word of condemnation over that, only justifications.

  12. Boris
    Boris
    July 12, 2018, 12:28 pm

    The reality is that it is Finkelstein who is stuck in Coney Island.

  13. LeaNder
    LeaNder
    July 12, 2018, 4:10 pm

    Norman, glad you are still around.

    If there is anyone that enjoys Katie’s cartoon it must be you.

  14. rindmeshreb
    rindmeshreb
    July 13, 2018, 12:23 am

    Poor Alan! What suffering he must endure no longer being able to any longer to sample expensive wines and munch canapes with the Martha’s Vineyard beautiful people. What suffering he endures! Oh, Alan, give me a break!

  15. Tuyzentfloot
    Tuyzentfloot
    July 13, 2018, 12:11 pm

    Finkelstein is so thoroughly decent. Compare with Half Man Half Biscuit (witty but very local to North West England) being unfriendly towards some public figures
    https://genius.com/Half-man-half-biscuit-turn-a-blind-eye-lyrics

  16. Mooser
    Mooser
    July 13, 2018, 12:52 pm

    “Stuck”? Between the Steeplechase, the Parachute Jump, Nathan’s Famous and the Boardwalk, who’s “stuck in Coney Island”? There’s plenty to do. Enough for an entire day of pleasure.

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