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Anti-Zionists ARE anti-Semites– Bari Weiss draws the line in the ‘New York Times’

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Bari Weiss is taking over the old role performed by Tom Friedman-then-Jeffrey Goldberg, of explaining to American elites why they should support Israel. The young New York Times opinion editor is fluent, self-assured, tough, and impassioned, all of which makes for a compelling performance. And though Israel advocacy has been a good career move for Weiss, her job is a lot harder today than it was when Friedman was doing chalktalks about Israel’s Sinai campaign to the uninitiated.

Weiss’s latest column arguing that it was anti-Semitic for Ilhan Omar to write during the 2012 attack on Gaza that Israel had “hypnotized the world,” has had a big effect overnight. After seeking to defend the tweet on several occasions before, the Minnesota congresswoman has now apologized for the tweet. That’s clout!

But Weiss’s core issue is Zionism, or in her understanding the liberation movement of the Jewish people, and her latest column is given to declarations of that faith that may leave her liberal audience cold.

She moves on from Ilhan Omar’s tweet to why it’s anti-semitic to criticize Israel. Here Weiss takes a page from the pro-Israel hasbara playbook: the “three d’s” of anti-semitism are demonization, delegitimization, and double standards.

[T]he biggest “Jew” today in the demonology of modern anti-Semitism is the Jewish state, Israel. While there are perfectly legitimate criticisms that one can make of Israel or the actions of its government — and I have never been shy about making them — those criticisms cross the line into anti-Semitism when they ascribe evil, almost supernatural powers to Israel in a manner that replicates classic anti-Semitic slanders.

Those who call themselves anti-Zionists usually insist they are not anti-Semites. But I struggle to see what else to call an ideology that seeks to eradicate only one state in the world — the one that happens to be the Jewish one — while empathetically insisting on the rights of self-determination for every other minority. Israeli Jews, descended in equal parts from people displaced from Europe and the Islamic world, are barely 6.5 million of the world’s 7.7 billion people. What is it about them, exactly, that puts them beyond the pale?

They insist. Translation: anti-Semites doth protest too much.

Weiss then accuses Omar, Marc Lamont Hill and Tamika Mallory of having “exposed their anti-Semitism.” In Hill’s case, this is a reference to the Temple professor expressing an anti-Zionist wish at the U.N. last November when he concluded a speech by saying “what justice requires… is a free Palestine from the river to the sea.”

Hill promptly lost his job as a CNN commentator because of the stance, and sought to explain his views in a tweet:

I believe in a single secular democratic state for everyone. This is the only way that historic Palestine will be free.

There he goes, insisting he’s not an anti-Semite!

Despite the price Hill has paid for his views, anti-Zionism is now going mainstream. Michelle Goldberg and Michelle Alexander have made arguments for anti-Zionism in the pages of the New York Times. That is why Bari Weiss needs to lay down the law. Donald Johnson explains the effectiveness and intellectual abuse in Bari Weiss’s column: “Israel supporters can just pull out the antisemitism charge and because there really are anti-semites around and people don’t want to be linked to them, they will run for cover. It is the antisemitism charge that constitutes the Israel lobby’s real power with liberals. Donations by themselves wouldn’t be enough.”

Just last week Debbie Wasserman Schultz pulled out of the Women’s March by equating Linda Sarsour’s criticisms of Israel and the lobby with anti-Semitism. Jewish women, DWS said, “have stood for equality and inclusiveness since before the Women’s March even came into being.” Maybe here, but not in Israel.

Johnson warns anti-Zionists to be mindful: “Now that anti-Zionism is coming into the mainstream, it really is important that there be no blurring with antisemitism, both for moral and practical reasons.

“All the folks who have a kneejerk reaction to any hint that antisemitism might be a real problem are themselves a problem. Nuance is a good thing. The Zionist side throws the antisemitism charge around like confetti and it is actually racist what they do with it, but it is also a mistake to pretend Pittsburgh didn’t happen. It is a childish reaction, like we are sports teams, everything is a zero sum game and any concession we might make about the reality of antisemitism (sometimes) is somehow a victory for Zionism. It is self-defeating to do this. Also factually and morally wrong…”

I would add that anti-Zionists aren’t trying to eradicate Israel, as Bari Weiss says. We are seeking a profound constitutional change in the country, to give everyone equal rights. Some of my friends like to call me a radical for saying that, but I draw proudly on liberal American traditions of equality, and of the separation of church and state. Indeed, before he ultimately caved on the issue under pressure, Harry Truman opposed the lobbyists seeking the establishment of a Jewish state in 1945. “He objected to a religious state, whether Catholic or Jewish,” John Judis writes. “He also expressed fear that trying to establish one would lead to war.” (Truman stressed that view in a letter to his wife: “I just don’t discuss religion. It has caused more wars and feuds than money.”)

As to singling Israel out, I do so because my government singles Israel out and the American Jewish establishment singles Israel out. The U.S. does so with a “special relationship” that has entailed massive military aid and the mimicry of Israel’s conduct, occupying Arab lands. The Jewish establishment does so by stating that Jews are one people whose homeland is the Jim-Crow land of Israel. Debbie Wasserman Schultz said so when she told Jews it is “our responsibility” to make sure that Israel support is never politicized. Dennis Ross said so when he told a New York temple audience that “we need to be advocates for Israel,” not Palestinians. Bari Weiss said so when she told a temple audience that all Jews welcomed rightwing Israeli officials Naftali Bennett and Ron Dermer to Pittsburgh in the wake of the massacre because “we are all one, Am Yisrael [the people of Israel].”

“I thought it was fun seeing Bari Weiss say she has never hesitated to criticize Israel,” Johnson adds. “Yeah, Bari Weiss, champion of Palestinian rights.” The two links she offered for her criticism were women’s access to the Western Wall, which is all about Jews, and her support for Lara Alqasem when Israel threatened to deport her, a case that involved an American student who had once advocated for boycott being allowed into Israel to study at the Hebrew University with the backing of many American Zionists.

P.S. Weiss also says that it’s anti-Semitic to blame “Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz and Doug Feith — Bush administration figures who happened to be Jewish — for a military campaign that had been ordered by George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld.”

Perle and Feith also happened to work for Netanyahu before Bush, arguing for Israel’s expansion on any terms. Israel’s interests were at the front of their minds for years, including when Feith worked for One Jerusalem and Perle lectured about Israel’s defensible borders at AEI. They then got their jobs the same way John Bolton did, thanks to Sheldon Adelson. To say that their ideology was insignificant, and their push for war was meaningless, is the kind of immunity other bad actors can only dream of getting from the New York Times.

Besides, Weiss is dismissing the very power she is engaged in herself, the dissemination of ideas. If foreign policy were as cut-and-dried as Weiss suggests, David Halberstam could not have written “The Best and the Brightest,” in which he blamed a lot of brilliant advisers for getting us into Vietnam.

H/t James North, Adam Horowitz, Allison Deger, and Peter Feld.

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  1. Citizen on January 23, 2019, 12:00 pm

    If you really want to see just of much of a squishy, slurring, rote Zionist myth-maker & Hasbara 101 talking pointer Bari Weiss is, watch Joe Rogan’s very recent podcast with her, and compare it to the very factual podcast Joe had a while back with Abby Martin. Both are easily available on Youtube.

    BTW, there’s a twitter tread war going on between those parties about that difference involving all three of the participants at their respective Twitter accounts.

    • US Citizen on January 23, 2019, 4:44 pm

      Weiss has a long record of seeking to muzzle critics of israel, going back to her campaigns against professors — several of them Arab — as an undergraduate at Columbia University in the early 2000’s. She also had a role in hounding out a Columbia dean for hosting former Iranian president Ahmadinejad. Her father is a stalwart at AIPAC, the Israel lobby group — that says it all and really came home when she came to the NYT.

      Weiss is described as a ‘journalist’ but there’s no evidence she’s ever practiced any journalism, just a failing upward series of editorial roles, so I’m not sure what credentials, other than the American journalistic kit of serious hand gestures and glasses frames she’s been outfitted with, qualifies her to work for the NYT.

      Anti-Zionists are really anti-Semites? No.
      Zionism is a political dogma that insists on an exclusively jewish state in Palestine.
      Anti-Semitism is the age-old prejudice against jews as jews.
      Weiss’s attempt to realign the world so that the two different concepts merge is by making the false claim that israel represents every jew on the planet. If you buy into that, then anyone who is critical of jsrael must also be critical of jews per se. No.

      Videotapes recording illegal jewish settler squats throwing garbage on Hebron Palestinians does more to stereotype israel to the world than the any claims so called of anti-Semites.

  2. eljay on January 23, 2019, 12:03 pm

    [T]he biggest “Jew” today in the demonology of modern anti-Semitism is the Jewish state, Israel. While there are perfectly legitimate criticisms that one can make of Israel or the actions of its government … those criticisms cross the line into anti-Semitism when they ascribe evil, almost supernatural powers to Israel in a manner that replicates classic anti-Semitic slanders.

    Those who call themselves anti-Zionists usually insist they are not anti-Semites. But I struggle to see what else to call an ideology that seeks to eradicate only one state in the world — the one that happens to be the Jewish one — while empathetically insisting on the rights of self-determination for every other minority. …

    There’s so much wrong with that rant:
    1. Typical anti-Semitic conflation by a Zionist of all Jews with Zionism and the “Jewish State” project.

    2. Is there any evidence that anyone ascribes “supernatural powers” to Israel? As far as I can tell, Israel is condemned for having committed and continuing to commit very ordinary evil in the name of Jewish / “Jewish State” supremacism.

    3. No minority in the world – not even one with a religion-based identity (such as Jewish) – is entitled to have a supremacist state or to do evil (“necessary” or otherwise) unto others.

    4. No Zionist rant would be complete without Murderers exist so it’s OK to rape whataboutism.

  3. Citizen on January 23, 2019, 12:10 pm

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    My work speaks for itself, which I discussed on his show. But Bari can’t give a coherent defense of Israeli war crimes, just whataboutism & being “surrounded by Arabs.” She basically admits Israel does horrific things but ppl only care bc of anti-semitism.

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    When Rogan brings up my Palestine reporting to @bariweiss she can’t refute it––just alleges I’m anti-semitic for it. Her defense of Israel is bizarre “other counties do bad things too” argument & “occupation can’t end b/c Palestinians would kill everyone.”

    • JWalters on January 23, 2019, 6:19 pm

      Abby Martin is an extremely intelligent and informed reporter. It’s a disgrace that she is banned from the mainstream media. By contrast, Bari Weiss appears to be an uninformed, irrational parrot.

      Bari Weiss, let’s see you debate Abby Martin on any mainstream news show. I bet you will never do it. Avoiding face to face debates is rule #1 for the Zionists, explained by Zionist strategists in the documentary The Lobby. The side by side comparison would make your illogic and falsehoods glaringly obvious. Attacking the messenger as “anti-Semitic” is rule #2. You are following the dishonest Zionist script perfectly.

      • Marnie on January 26, 2019, 6:28 am

        Bari Weiss’s hate speech is mainstream. Abby Martin’s truthful telling is considered heresy.

    • Marnie on January 24, 2019, 3:42 am

      I just have to wonder if those statements like “occupation can’t end b/c Palestinians would kill everyone” is guilt talking. Israel supplied weapons (as did others I know) to the Hutu government in Rwanda to assist with the slaughter of its Tutsi population. It is the irrational fear of what went around will be coming around that remain the talking points of zionist enablers such as bari weiss and others. Living in fear makes terrible the lives of the feared.

      • Citizen on January 24, 2019, 4:27 pm

        Joe Rogan was uncharacteristically barren and seemingly ignorant in contrast to his usual relentless follow-ups to whatever his guests say–I was amazed, as were many tweeters after his podcasts aired. Some of those tweeters said the same as JWalters–they called for Joe to bring both in for a debate podcast & forecast Abby would win the bout easily. In his podcast with Abby, he asked a lot more follow-up questions and she gave him a real factual & historical schooling. He could not have forgotten all of it. Yet Joe just continually let Bari off the hook when she trotted out her hasbsra 101 boilerplate talking point. She invited him to take a trip with her to Israel when he claimed ignorance–he replied OK, I will go with you to visit Israel and managed to croak out “and Gaza too” in almost a mutter. He gushed like a teen-ager at Bari, repeatedly saying she was much smarter than he, and superior as she was a writer for the New York Times. He was friendly with Abby too, but I don’t remember him fawning at her.
        JWalters is correct, Abby is an extremely intelligent and informed reporter.

    • JWalters on January 24, 2019, 7:48 pm

      Citizen, Joe Rogan’s clearly unusual behavior with Bari Weiss sounds definitely like behavior made under some sort of duress. I wonder what it was? I’d guess some sort of threat to his show’s finances. Thanks for bringing this contrast to our attention.

    • JWalters on January 25, 2019, 5:02 am

      A live matchup between Bari Weiss and Abby Martin would be a huge event. For those who have moved beyond the MSM news bubble, its potential significance would be immediately recognized. Abby Martin has a lot of respect, and would draw a lot of viewers. A direct confrontation with a NYT Zionist would be like a heavyweight fight. People would be tuning in from around the globe. The ratings potential should get the show financing. At least a half hour with George Stephanopolous. But despite the great ratings it would draw, the media establishment won’t put it on. Go figure.

      While a live matchup between Bari Weiss and Abby Martin may never happen, we do have this article, which is a highly effective refutation of Bari’s Standard Zionist case, point by point. It’s casualness belies the devastation it wreaks.

      • RoHa on January 25, 2019, 11:11 pm

        “People would be tuning in from around the globe.”

        I think you are overestimating the reputation of Bari Weiss and Abby Martin. Were it not for MW, I would never have heard of either of them, and I suspect most of the globe is in a similar position.

  4. amigo on January 23, 2019, 12:27 pm

    “But I struggle to see what else to call an ideology that seeks to eradicate only one state in the world — the one that happens to be the Jewish one ” Bari Weiss

    But I struggle to see what or where is the only Jewish state.

    Where are it,s borders.Where does it start and end.

    Why does it see itself as being above international Law.

    Why does it claim to be a democracy while treating 1/5th of it,s citizens as foreign interlopers and a demographic threat.

    Why does it discard it,s national dignity by accepting alms from a foreign nation.

    Why does it conflate all Jews with Zionism.

    Why is it so determined to self destruct.

    So many why,s and wheres .

    I guess I just outed myself as an Antisemite.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius on January 23, 2019, 1:08 pm

      “Why does it claim to be a democracy while treating 1/5th of it,s citizens as foreign interlopers and a demographic threat.”

      It’s worse than that. About half – perhaps slightly more – of the people living in the territories ruled by Israel are not Jews. That percentage is likely to increase over the coming years. Some of these non-Jews have no rights at all and are ruled by military law, while the Jews living down the road have full citizen rights. Others are technically citizens but are discriminated against in many important ways.

      I wonder what Ms. Weiss would think of a country where about 50% of the population were Jews but held fewer rights than non-Jews just because. Would she be lauding it as a ‘democracy’ and wondering why others weren’t quite so keen on it?

    • JWalters on January 23, 2019, 6:34 pm

      “an ideology that seeks to eradicate only one state in the world — the one that happens to be the Jewish one”

      The problem with the Jewish state is not that it’s Jewish. The problem is that it is a criminal, terrorist, apartheid state. Bari Weiss never even addresses those factors, as if they carried no weight. She cannot possibly be as stupid as she pretends. Tell us Bari, do you believe with Netanyahu that Jews have a God-given right to slaughter non-Jews in Palestine and drive them from their homes, as described in the Bible/Torah? Is that what is really behind your conclusions? Be honest.

      • Citizen on January 24, 2019, 4:38 pm

        In the podcast Bari started right out saying she has no problem with anybody criticizing Israel & she claimed she was known for being very critical of Israel.
        Joe did not follow up with, “Why, what’s wrong with Israel that you see?” Instead, he let her gush boilerplate Zionist BS.

    • Marnie on January 25, 2019, 3:35 am

      By your definition amigo, me too, and proud of it.

  5. Maximus Decimus Meridius on January 23, 2019, 12:59 pm

    ” empathetically insisting on the rights of self-determination for every other minority.”

    This is nonsensical. Jews living in Western democracies – which is to say the majority of ‘diaspora’ Jews – enjoy exactly the same rights as everyone else in those countries. Every single anti-Zionist I know would be horrified if Jews were ever to be deprived of those rights, though thankfully there is no hint of that happening.

    However, Jews do not have any rights to ‘self-determination’ in a foreign country. A Jewish person fom Moscow or Minnesota has rights as a Russian or American citizen, but they most certainly do not have rights which can only be won at the expense of the indigenous people of the Middle East. There is no legitimate concept of ‘self-determination’ which could ever permit this.

    “Israeli Jews, descended in equal parts from people displaced from Europe and the Islamic world, are barely 6.5 million of the world’s 7.7 billion people. What is it about them, exactly, that puts them beyond the pale?”

    Sometimes I wonder when I read rants like this (we had a lot of it in the UK during the contrived Corbyn ‘antisemitism’ affair this summer): Do people like Ms Weiss – who I had never heard of until now – actually WANT others to be antisemitic? Or do they fail to understand that not everyone is as obsessed with their religious background as they themselves are?

    • Mooser on January 23, 2019, 4:14 pm

      “Do people like Ms Weiss – who I had never heard of until now – actually WANT others to be antisemitic?”

      Well, it’d sure help with the out-marriage and assimilation problem, wouldn’t it?

      • Citizen on January 24, 2019, 4:44 pm

        Lots of rabbis think so; they want to end what they call “the silent holocaust” due to out-marriage & assimilation.

      • Mooser on January 25, 2019, 1:08 pm

        “they call “the silent holocaust” due to out-marriage & assimilation.”

        And the US Government does nothing, nothing to recognize this problem or assist us! They just try to hide it behind some argle-bargle about ‘legal and constitutional rights’.

  6. Jackdaw on January 23, 2019, 1:03 pm

    Bari Weiss has hit the nail on the head.

    In Ilhan Omar’s Somali homeland, the Jew is a supernatural malevolent creature and only fit for blame as a scapegoat.

    “Hirsi Ali learned from her mother that Jews were her darkest enemy. In songs, children’s textbooks, and newspaper articles, Jews were routinely called pigs, donkeys, rats, and cockroaches. “Our religious tutors and the preachers in our mosques set aside extra time to pray for the destruction of Jews,” Hirsi Ali writes. Hirsi Ali writes about the relief that she felt when she finally met Jews and realized that they were ordinary people with their own rich and painful history.”

    https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2014/04/13075/

    Thank you, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, you are the true ‘woman of valour’.

    • amigo on January 23, 2019, 1:21 pm

      “Bari Weiss has hit the nail on the head.” jackduh

      No problem , it went in one side and out the other without impediment.

    • eljay on January 23, 2019, 1:27 pm

      || Jackdaw: Bari Weiss has hit the nail on the head.

      In Ilhan Omar’s Somali homeland, the Jew is a supernatural malevolent creature … ||

      Bari Weiss wrote: ” … those criticisms [of Israel] cross the line into anti-Semitism when they ascribe evil, almost supernatural powers to Israel … “

      A Jew in Somalia is not Israel.

      The nail’s just fine, but it looks like your head took a beating. Again.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius on January 23, 2019, 2:33 pm

        “A Jew in Somalia is not Israel.”

        Never mind that Jackdaw’s heroine grew up mostly in Christian Kenya, living a life of relative luxury. And her family were such fundamentalists that they sent their only son to a Christian school.

      • Marnie on January 25, 2019, 3:37 am

        @eljay

        ;The nail’s just fine, but it looks like your head took a beating. Again.’

        Once again, you’ve ‘nailed’ it.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius on January 23, 2019, 1:32 pm

      A true ‘woman of valour’….. who nearly lost her Dutch citizenship due to fibbing on her asylum application (that’s not her actual name btw) and whose life story has been largely fabricated. I suspect that cute little anecdote is another of her fabrications, designed to appeal to the extreme right constituency who support her.

    • amigo on January 23, 2019, 1:51 pm

      “Jews were routinely called pigs, donkeys, rats, and cockroaches. “

      Monkey see , Monkey do , eh Jackduh.

      • Citizen on January 24, 2019, 4:48 pm

        Do they spit on Jews in Somalia like priests and nuns get spit on in Jerusalem?

    • Talkback on January 23, 2019, 6:31 pm

      Bari Weiss: “But I struggle to see what else to call an ideology that seeks to eradicate only one state in the world — the one that happens to be the Jewish one — while empathetically insisting on the rights of self-determination for every other minority.”

      Indeed. She struggles to see the difference between settler colonialism on the one hand and the right to self determination of a native population or of a minority whose fundamental rights are violated on the other.

      It’s her judeocentric1 narcissism and racism which prevents her to see that it has NOTHING to do with being Jewish or not.

    • Misterioso on January 24, 2019, 9:48 am

      @Jackdaw
      Sigh. With supporters like you, Bari Weiss and Hirsi Ali, Zionism and “Israel” need no critics.
      Regarding Jews, Muslims and Christians in Palestine prior to the arrival of racist Jewish Zionists from foreign lands whose stated objective was to dispossess and expel the indigenous Arab Christian and Muslim inhabitants who, including their ancestors, have lived continuously between the River and the Sea for about 15,000 years:

      Over the centuries relations between the three monotheistic faiths became especially harmonious in Palestine. This was due largely to the reverence Islam held for the Hebrew prophets and the tradition of Christian pilgrimages to biblical sites. The Arabic inscription over Jaffa Gate (the western entrance to Old Jerusalem) reads: “There is no Lord but God and Abraham is his friend” and throughout the country there were Muslim mosques and shrines honouring the Hebrew patriarchs. Palestinian Muslims celebrated religious festivals honouring the Jewish prophets and often gave Hebrew first names to their children. In order to quell inter-Christian rivalry over access to the Holy Sepulchre, Saladin initiated what is now a 800 year tradition of entrusting its keys to a Muslim family. (Harvard Professor Walid Khalidi, Before Their Diaspora, p. 32)

  7. Stephen Shenfield on January 23, 2019, 1:05 pm

    The claim that anti-Zionists ’empathetically insist on the rights of self-determination for every other minority’ — with ‘self-determination’ interpreted as independent statehood — is endlessly repeated without any attempt at substantiation. Because it cannot be substantiated. There is no way of telling from the fact that someone is anti-Zionist whether he or she supports an independent state for Tibetans, Uighurs, Basques, Catalans, Bretons, Ossetes, Abkhaz, Chechens, Ingush, Laks, Udmurts, Bashkirs, Buryats, Kurds, Ainu, Lapps, Chukchis, Itelmens, Yakuts, Nenets, Tamils, Rohingya, Zulus, Tigrayans, Berbers, etc. etc. etc.

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius on January 23, 2019, 1:51 pm

      Plus, as I’ve said, it’s an ‘apples and orranges’ comparison.

      Kurds or Tamils, for example, are ethnic groups who occupy a defined area of territory to which they are indigenous, and in which they (or some of them) seek self-determination. Jews, by contrast, live as full citizens in countries all over the world, speaking different languages and raised in different cultures. As such, they have zero right to ‘self-determine’ in a Middle Eastern territory already populated by non-Jews. No other group – that I am aware of – demands such a ‘right’.

      • wondering jew on January 23, 2019, 3:42 pm

        MDM tells us : ” Jews, by contrast, live as full citizens in countries all over the world, ”

        Although the justifications for self determination might require more than a historical deprivation of full citizenship, this sentence is misleading. Zionism was born at a time when the Jews did not live as full citizens in Czarist Russia nor would the phrase full citizens aptly apply to how the Jews lived in post WWI Poland where their citizenship was under a shadow and certainly they did not live as full citizens in Nazi Germany. To cite 2019’s full citizenship for Jews without any historical equivocations is designed to mislead rather than enlighten.

      • Mooser on January 23, 2019, 3:47 pm

        “Zionism was born at a time…”

        Very true, “Yonah”. Very true. Zionism was born at one time, and it’s about fucking time it grew up.

      • amigo on January 23, 2019, 4:11 pm

        “Zionism was born at one time, and it’s about fucking time it grew up.” Mooser

        Hold up Mooser, that could take centuries.

        Can we skip the growing up part– they have had circa a century .Can we skip right to the RIP part.

      • Maximus Decimus Meridius on January 23, 2019, 6:02 pm

        ” Zionism was born at a time when the Jews did not live as full citizens in Czarist Russia nor would the phrase fu Zionism was born at a time when the Jews did not live as full citizens in Czarist Russia nor would the phrase full citizens aptly apply to how the Jews lived in post WWI Poland where their citizenship was under a shadow and certainly they did not live as full citizens in Nazi Germany.”

        I don’t think anyone had many rights in Tsarist Russia. That’s probably why they had that little revolution.

        Anyway, even though Jews were persecuted at certain times and places that STILL does and did not give Jews the right to ‘self-determination’ in a distant country at the expense of the native people. There just simply is no such right. Not now, not then.

      • Tonja on January 24, 2019, 5:08 am

        MDM tells us : ” Jews, by contrast, live as full citizens in countries all over the world, ”
        and WJ countering by : “Zionism was born at a time when the Jews did not live as full citizens in Czarist Russia …post WWI Poland….To cite 2019’s full citizenship for Jews without any historical equivocations is designed to mislead rather than enlighten.”

        But talking about jews as a “minority people (my emphasis) in foreign (my emphasis) country” is designed to mislead rather than enlighten.

        Back in 2003, Mochkofsky started writing about the leader of a religious community in Peru whose members started off Catholic, turned to Protestantism and ultimately converted to Orthodox Judaism.
        https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-05-11/members-colombian-mega-church-whove-converted-orthodox-judaism-are-part-trend
        And from the picture (check eyes) you can see some have clearly some South American Indian blood in their veins

        Thus this colombian mother, converted, can settle in Israel thanks to your zionism doctrine born at a time…..WJ.
        But her daughters struggle just to visit her.
        https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-these-2-girls-were-thrown-out-of-israel-when-they-came-to-visit-their-israeli-mom-1.6801318

      • Citizen on January 24, 2019, 5:35 pm

        @ wondering jew, Re: ” Zionism was born at a time when the Jews did not live as full citizens in Czarist Russia…”
        This too is misleading. Read this:

        http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Russia/Russian_Empire

  8. JLewisDickerson on January 23, 2019, 1:12 pm

    RE: “But I struggle to see what else to call an ideology that seeks to eradicate only one state in the world — the one that happens to be the Jewish one — while empathetically insisting on the rights of self-determination for every other minority. ~ Bari Weiss

    MY COMMENT: Who the hell insists on the rights of self-determination for ‘every’ other “minority”? That’s absurd.

    • Mooser on January 23, 2019, 3:44 pm

      In the ‘right is always allright‘ world, a minority receiving rights or (shudder) some kind of relief from discrimination is tantamount to “self-determination”, if not revolution and anarchy!

  9. Jim Holstun on January 23, 2019, 3:11 pm

    Nuance is a good idea, yes, and conceding and deploring the existence of real Jew haters out there. They are there. They are vicious. And they have guns. They must be resisted.

    But letting the whole discussion be framed by anti-Semitism/Jew hating is a strategic and a moral error. Consider adding the following:

    “Now of course, all Zionists haven’t been racists and imperialists. Ahad Ha’am, for instance was a genuine anti-racist, anti-imperial Zionist. But nowadays, quite a few Zionists are Arab-haters and Islamophobes. And pretty much all of them are defenders of ethnic cleansing, past and present.”

    And that includes Ms. Bari Weiss.

    • Donald on January 23, 2019, 4:37 pm

      Fair point. I would only hesitate about this line–

      “And pretty much all of them are defenders of ethnic cleansing, past and present.”

      That might be right or it might not be, but without taking a poll of everyone who calls himself or herself a Zionist and asking them what they think about the Nakba or Israel’s current actions, it’s not clear that “all of them” would do this.

      But a heck of a lot of them would.

  10. Ossinev on January 23, 2019, 3:24 pm

    Sounds like there is serious trouble at Zionist Mill. The Anti – Zionists have been coming out more and more int` droves to use a Yahooism. It would appear that Weiss and lots more of the Ziobots are being called out in Ziodroves by Hasbara Central to combat the threat and even by their standards are making hilarious fools of themselves. just listen to this idiot on Joe Rogan:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T77uFdw9HJA
    Fascinating amongst other “fascinating” distortions that she spews out is that she explains away the fact that an increasing number of Jews don`t actually practice Judaism by saying that “most people” whoever “most people” are in her mind (ie the largely vacant cavity between her ears) don`t realise that Jews were a “tribe” before they were a religion. This on the face of it should earn a Category A rebuke from the rabid Rabbis. as in “Chosen People” “Promised Land” etc etc yawn. Chicken/Egg? With Ziodistortionism you very quickly lose the plot/will.
    And there is of course the standard whataboutism – in this case China and the Uighurs.Expect to hear a lot more from her and the NYT at her prompting about the Uighurs given her declared humanitarian concerns about their plight(I don`t think).

  11. amigo on January 23, 2019, 3:25 pm

    She doesn,t look Jewish.

    Can anyone show me an image of a Jewish person who lived in The Historic Homeland of the Jewish People —say 2000 years ago, oops sorry–3000 years ago or was that 3500 , before all those blue eyed Europeans showed up and diluted the DNA.

    Would the same person also straighten me out on when The Historic Homeland of the Jewish People was formed, It would sure clarify matters.

  12. wondering jew on January 23, 2019, 3:28 pm

    Perle and Feith “got their jobs the same way John Bolton did, thanks to Sheldon Adelson.” Could you document Sheldon Adelson’s role in their getting jobs in the Bush administration?

  13. Rusty Pipes on January 23, 2019, 4:14 pm

    Two days after Michelle Alexander’s historic NYT op-ed, a white Jewish Zionist woman writes a column accusing three prominent Black anti-Zionists of being anti-Semitic. On MLK Day, no less. Well, I guess we can’t expect total transformation overnight.

    • Mooser on January 23, 2019, 5:30 pm

      ” Well, I guess we can’t expect total transformation overnight.”

      Well, it may take a while, since people have all these anti-semitic misconceptions about Jews and Socialism, Civil Rights, Progressive causes, egalitarian causes. But Zionism will dispel those myths, and show the world that a matzoh is oft-times just a half-baked cracker.

      • gamal on January 23, 2019, 7:06 pm

        “and show the world that a matzoh is oft-times just a half-baked cracker”

        reminds of Primo Levis’ talk about the Musselmaner of Auschwitz,

        ” “Do you know what a Muselmann was? Someone who became nothing, was named a Muselmann. He was exhausted with hunger, weakness, and despair. When there is no despair, you eat something, even grass. But when there is no one to live for, what to live for, no one to support you and no one that you need to support yourself, you don’t have anything to live for. When there is no one to look after, there is no answer to the questions: ‘‘What is it all about? Who am I and what am I? To whom do I matter?’’

        It is as if any attempt to give meaning to the word Muselmann is doomed to fail as the Muselmänner themselves have lost all capacity to give meaning. One of the important aspects of the Nazi regime that comes to mind here is the capacity of the Nazis (who also used the Muselmann term for the same category of prisoners) to completely isolate certain terms of reality and give them a new meaning, thus constructing a new reality. One of the things the Nazis did is what Anidjar calls ‘semanticide’, where particular words are taken out of context and given new meanings in a new context (remember the word Endlösung). The Muselmann in the camps have become a reference for the minimum condition of humanity or even less than that. At the same time the condition of the prisoners exemplifying this term is obviously the result of inhumane human action.

        Telling the story of the Muselmann
        The term Muselmann crops up again and again in testimonies describing the Holocaust, but explaining it away by simply saying it has no meaning or serves no function is (even in the case of the failure of meaning) is unsatisfying and unjust. If we do that the term works to silence and alienate the language from the rest of us, from history itself. The story of the Muselmann, the prisoner who became a Muslim, is the story of a decline of humanity and the lack of words to describe it. The only thing we can do is is telling the story, again and again and again”

        https://religionresearch.org/closer/2015/05/04/muselmann-the-jews-who-became-muslims-in-auschwitz/

  14. Jim Holstun on January 23, 2019, 4:58 pm

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/19/us/politics/arthur-finkelstein-innovative-influential-conservative-strategist-dies-at-72.html

    “Arthur Finkelstein, a reclusive political SVENGALI who revolutionized campaign polling and financing and helped elect a bevy of conservative candidates, including President Ronald Reagan and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, died on Friday night in Ipswich, Mass., where he lived. He was 72” (emphasis added).

    The New York Times writing about A ZIONIST HYPNOTIST! Shocking! And Ms. Weiss works for this squirming nest of anti-Semites!

  15. Kay24 on January 23, 2019, 10:55 pm

    Quite a good plan. Become a brutal occupier, steal the lands of the indigenous people, build illegal settlements that are condemned by the rest of the world, steal their water, collectively punish them, and kill their children, kidnap children and throw them in jail without legal representation, blame Hamas and kill thousands of civilians, send precision bombs into homes wiping out entire families, and have the luxury of zionists journalists in the US media, defend you, spew your propaganda, and accuse anyone who criticizes the vile crimes above, of being anti-semitic.

    Zionist lovers like Bill Maher invite this woman to their shows, and allow her to spew her pro Israel lies, as she pretends Israel is such a victim of the occupied people, and allow her to go unchallenged.

    As long as our media does not dare question the occupation, land grabs, and the endless massacres of unarmed civilians, Israel will be able to continue in this evil way. Bari Weiss should be ashamed to call herself a journalist.

    • Misterioso on January 24, 2019, 10:04 am

      @Kay24

      Zionists: Short term “smart,” long term stupid, real stupid. Financed by American taxpayers, 70 years of trying to pound a square peg into a round hole. Rotting within and increasingly seen by the world, including Jews, as the horror and curse it is, the exclusionary “Jewish State” will not survive.

      • Kay24 on January 24, 2019, 6:13 pm

        I would like to see the above dynamics change during my lifetime. I was even hoping that Mad King Donny would see fit to stop the aid from going to these zionist criminals.

  16. StephenKMackSD on January 24, 2019, 10:19 am

    I watched part of Mr. Rogan’s interview with Weiss and found her to be, to say the least, utterly unimpressive, unprepossessing. If your going to be an effective propagandist, at least you need to be believable as a person. Bret Stephens at least looks the part of a ‘rational person’.
    Rusty Pipes’ comment is on target.
    I just have to wonder if Weiss watched Rogan’s extended ‘rant’ against circumcision? He was vehement and unsparing is his condemnation of the practice. Would that qualify as an expression of Anti-Semitism, as it is the initiation right for all Jewish males?

    StephenKMackSD

    • Citizen on January 24, 2019, 9:56 pm

      If memory serves, at some point during the 3+ hour podcast with Bari, they briefly discussed FGM, and during that moment, Joe did mention circumcision–one sentence. Neither pursued the topic. They agreed FMG was horrible–I thought he would pursue circumcision, because, as you say,
      he did “rant” against circumcision so extensively in a prior podcast.

  17. Boris on January 24, 2019, 10:32 am

    “Anti-Zionists ARE anti-Semites– Bari Weiss draws the line in the ‘New York Times’”

    Actually, this is NOT what she wrote and it is NOT what her writing is about.

    Yet, a very lively discussion in this hatefest place.

    Had anyone read her article?

    • annie on January 24, 2019, 10:41 am

      i don’t read her anymore.

    • eljay on January 24, 2019, 11:18 am

      || Boris: “Anti-Zionists ARE anti-Semites– Bari Weiss draws the line in the ‘New York Times’”

      Actually, this is NOT what she wrote … ||

      Bari Weiss: ” … Those who call themselves anti-Zionists usually insist they are not anti-Semites. But I struggle to see what else to call [anti-Zionism] … “

      Yup, that’s pretty much what she wrote.

      || … Yet, a very lively discussion in this hatefest place. … ||

      Thank you for your contribution to this very lively discussion and to your regular participation in this hatefest place.

      • Boris on January 24, 2019, 12:16 pm

        “… your regular participation in this hatefest place.”

        It is actually one of the commandments in Judaism to fight evil whenever and wherever it is found.

        I am an atheist, but this and fasting on Yom Kippur that I usually do.

        Plus, I do find some of the links posted by more knowledgeable (not you) antisemites here quite interesting.

      • Boris on January 24, 2019, 12:32 pm

        “…, that’s pretty much what she wrote.”

        No, it is not.

        She is quite intelligently dissecting Rep. Omar recent statements.

      • eljay on January 24, 2019, 12:35 pm

        || Boris: … It is actually one of the commandments in Judaism to fight evil whenever and wherever it is found. … ||

        But you’re a Zionist so the commandments of Zionism take priority, which is why you promote, engage in, support and/or defend – rather than fight – the evil that it is and that it does.

        || … Plus, I do find some of the links posted by more knowledgeable (not you) antisemites here quite interesting. ||

        That’s okay – you’re not the funniest of the Zionist clowns.

        But thanks again for your continued participation in this hatefest place.  :-)

      • eljay on January 24, 2019, 1:50 pm

        || Boris: “…, that’s pretty much what she wrote.”

        No, it is not. … ||

        Except that it is.

        || … She is quite intelligently … ||

        And you are not.

      • Mooser on January 24, 2019, 3:29 pm

        “I am an atheist, but this and fasting on Yom Kippur that I usually do.”

        In Israel, even atheists are Orthodox Jews. So are Reform, Conservative, and secular, too. All Orthodox.
        That’s how Israel avoids any inter-denominational friction.

      • echinococcus on January 24, 2019, 9:48 pm

        “I am an atheist, but this and fasting on Yom Kippur that I usually do.”
        §
        Towarischtsch Boris seems to have a lot to teach us. He should write “How to Get On In Life By Using Crimes Against Humanity In Unrelated Countries And Exploiting Naive Superstitions, Too”.

      • Mooser on January 25, 2019, 1:17 pm

        ” Boris seems to have a lot to teach us.”

        You bet. Just allow him to introduce himself, and away we go.

      • eljay on January 25, 2019, 3:20 pm

        || Mooser: ” Boris seems to have a lot to teach us.”

        You bet. Just allow him to introduce himself, and away we go. ||

        He doesn’t strike me as a man of wealth and taste.

      • echinococcus on January 26, 2019, 6:08 am

        Tawarischtch, I must apologize profusely and make amends, mea maxima culpa: I had always believed, and said, that antisemitism, as distinct from plain racism, was just an absurd, obnoxious invention by Zionist kooks and their eponymous rabbi.
        §
        A news item I read today changed all that! Here it is: “US family booted off flight ‘for overpowering BO’ accuse airline of anti-Semitism ” (https://www.rt.com/usa/449727-american-airlines-body-odor-jewish/)
        §
        Read it, and you’ll see that not only antisemitism is very real and a growing menace to humanity, but also that it has strictly nothing to do with racism: “… Adler says in the video, insisting that staff had a ‘religious reason’ for kicking him off the aircraft.”

      • Talkback on January 26, 2019, 2:11 pm

        echi: “A news item I read today changed all that! Here it is: “US family booted off flight ‘for overpowering BO’ accuse airline of anti-Semitism.”

        That’s exactly the kind of antisemitism that seems to be on the rise.

    • Talkback on January 24, 2019, 1:36 pm

      Boris: “Yet, a very lively discussion in this hatefest place.”

      Mhm. Do you think that you and other Zionists could be less hateful to those who support international and human rights and equality?

      • Boris on January 24, 2019, 2:15 pm

        I hate when people fart in public transport, Talking Rear End.

      • Mooser on January 24, 2019, 3:33 pm

        “I hate when people fart in public transport, Talking Rear End.” “Boris”

        It’s funnier in the original Russian.

      • Talkback on January 25, 2019, 10:50 am

        Boris: “I hate when people fart in public transport, Talking Rear End.”

        Very primitiv beings will do if front end, too, if they are put into a corner.

        Do you think that you and other Zionists could be less hateful to those who support international and human rights and equality?

      • Mooser on January 25, 2019, 1:22 pm

        “Do you think that you and other Zionists could be less hateful to those who support international and human rights and equality?”

        As goes the Right, so goes the all-rightnik.

        Zionists are through with all that left-wing stuff (and the “left-wing anti-Semitism” that comes with it!) and have decided, (and about time,too) to side with the winners!
        Naturally, since there is lots of confusion about this, we have to make it very clear.

  18. James Canning on January 24, 2019, 11:57 am

    Surely Bari Weiss can comprehend that critics of Israel who seek an end to the occupation of the West Bank, are in fact doing Israel a good service. The effort to suppress criticism of Israel by labelling it “anti-Semitic” is intellectually dishonest.

  19. Ossinev on January 24, 2019, 3:19 pm

    Worth listening to this hypocrite Weiss waxing lyrical about America and Americans losing their “values” and stressing the need for people of all races , religions etc to be treated equal under the law and be affored the same dignities and rights under the law 7.10 onwards.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-9ry71e0fU
    Precisely the opposite of what her beloved “countrymen and country women”(in Israel) are granting to the native Palestinian population.
    Also interesting that a few moments earlier the unctious Maher inadvertently mentioned the fact that American Evangelicals seek to eliminate Judaism quote ” either they convert or they die”. Weiss is in flow and having just talked about the likes of Steve Bannon ” liking Israel for the wrong reasons” she says” right” to this comment by Maher and moves swiftly away from the subject. This begs the question why are Jewish Zionists allowed to dodge this one and/or are not called out to explain this blatant double standard in their asinine Anti Semitic accusations. People who criticise Israel`s policies towards the Palestinians and their contempt for International Law are automatically deemed in Zionist eyes to be “Anti Semitic” yet people who openly seek the mass conversion or destruction of Jews as part of their end of days pantomine are not called out – quite the opposite as with eg the fruitcake “Pastor” Hagee and the US Embassy transfer gig in Jerusalem they are instead cultivated as ” supporters.”
    Very much an Achilles Heel for Zionists IMHO. I do hope that they are increasingly put on the spot to explain why large organisations with huge numbers of followers who are calling for the destruction of Jews are somehow not “anti- Semitic” ?

    • Citizen on January 24, 2019, 10:11 pm

      Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders consider the Evangelical Christians like Hagee’s group, useful tools. 70 million idiots obsessed with supporting Israel with their votes and spare pennies so they can rapture up to their real real world in the heaven beyond the clouds is a big tool. BTW Hagee is also on record as preaching Hitler was sent by God, was part of God’s plan.

  20. Xpat on January 24, 2019, 8:17 pm

    The first half Bari Weiss’ article is an indictment of Ilhan Omar for use of the word “hypnotized.” For Weiss, the word carries a universe of anti-Semitic connotations therefore coming out of the mouth of Omar it must be anti-Semitic. It’s likely that Omar is ignorant and uninterested in Weiss’ intellectual universe. Secondly, in order to accuse Omar of anti-Semitism Weiss conflates Israel with Jewish – an assumption which Omar does not make and which itself carries anti-Semitic overtones. Finally, as a Jew and former Israeli, I think “hypnotized” is a pretty good attempt at understanding what the hell went wrong with the world. Why did they look the other way in the face of naked Israeli aggression.
    Call me an anti-Semite. A hypnotized anti-Semite. A hypnotic one.

    • Citizen on January 24, 2019, 10:17 pm

      All excellent points, Xpat. BTW, Omar has come out with an apology, saying she was completely ignorant that the word “hypnotized” carried any Jew-Hater baggage.

  21. Xpat on January 24, 2019, 8:18 pm

    Phil: “Weiss’s latest column arguing that it was anti-Semitic for Ilhan Omar to write during the 2012 attack on Gaza that Israel had “hypnotized the world,” has had a big effect overnight”
    The first half Bari Weiss’ article is an indictment of Ilhan Omar for use of the word “hypnotized.” For Weiss, the word carries a universe of anti-Semitic connotations therefore coming out of the mouth of Omar it must be anti-Semitic. It’s likely that Omar is ignorant and uninterested in Weiss’ intellectual universe. Secondly, in order to accuse Omar of anti-Semitism Weiss conflates Israel with Jewish – an assumption which Omar does not make and which itself carries anti-Semitic overtones. Finally, as a Jew and former Israeli, I think “hypnotized” is a pretty good attempt at understanding what the hell went wrong with the world. Why did they look the other way in the face of naked Israeli aggression.
    Call me an anti-Semite. A hypnotized anti-Semite. A hypnotic one.

    • Mooser on January 25, 2019, 4:44 pm

      “For Weiss, the word carries a universe of anti-Semitic connotations…”

      Three cheers for Bari Weiss! Hip, hip, hooray!

  22. RoHa on January 25, 2019, 12:21 am

    “she was completely ignorant that the word “hypnotized” carried any Jew-Hater baggage.”

    It doesn’t, of course. Weiss is just making it up. Wait for the claims of anti-Semitic connotations for “eleemosynary”, “lubricious”, and “turnip”.

    • MHughes976 on January 25, 2019, 10:33 am

      Modern hypnotism was not originally a technique associated with Jews – neither of its two main popularisers, Franz Anton Mesmer and James Braid, was Jewish. I didn’t take Weiss to be arguing particularly about the word or the modern therapeutic technique but about Christian legends of Jewish duplicity, which she sees in all ideas that are negative about people who are Jewish, which is a wider category than ‘about Jews’. There is an element of inveterate prejudice here, referring with great prominence and emphasis to something which just isn’t relevant.

      • annie on January 25, 2019, 11:23 am

        i think it’s a mistake to take Omar’s wording at face value. in this context i think what she meant was an accumulation of propaganda that’s permeated our culture to such a degree people don’t realize they are empowering gross human rights violations. just like the american people were brainwashed into supporting the iraq war. just like right now normal anti trump people are brainwashed into supporting his and rubio’s efforts to cause regime change in venuzuela. people are brainwashed into believing what rachel maddow tells them.

        i do not think she meant a literal hypnotic experience. just like i don’t think the american public is literally hypnotized t support regime change. it’s ridiculous to glom onto that wording and call it antisemitic. and had she not used that wording and had more twitter characters to flush out her meaning then they would have found another way to call her anti semitic. had she said brainwashed instead or whatever. occasionally they are creative in finding new ways to accuse someone of anti semitism, generally not tho.

        just like marc lamont hill. after that UN speech, had he not ended w/the river to the sea line, is there even one person here who doesn’t think they would have not found something else in that speech to accuse him of antisemitism? but because they have that line, then they can say, ‘see we’re not saying you can’t criticize israel, we just don’t like that line’. and they can do that with anything.

        that tweet of omar’s was from 2012. so they will go to all lengths to find something someone said for purposes of demonization/delegitimization.

      • YoniFalic on January 27, 2019, 9:07 am

        The association of Jews with hypnosis is old-fashioned and mostly unknown today. Bari Weiss’s accusation makes me picture her in the action of poring over forgotten complaints of antisemitism so that she can find material to accuse any gentile of antisemitism anytime.

        The association of a Jew with hypnotism is found most famously with Svengali in du Maurier’s novel Trilby. Yet the book is careful to point out that Svengali’s sleaze is not to be associated with Judaism per se. While Svengali is depicted negatively, a character of Sephardic Jewish ancestry is admirable.

        If du Maurier is a critic of anything, he is a critic of the culture of associated with E. European Jewish communities. Such a negative opinion does not make one hostile to those that practice Judaism. As I study modern Yiddish-speaking communities, I find much that deserves severest criticism, but I have no major complaints against Judaism per se.

        Ilhan Omar is implicitly pointing out that propagandists of Zionism have established a Gramscian cultural hegemony, in which criticism of Zionism and of the State of Israel is considered unacceptable even though all decent people everywhere should hate and despise both Zionism and also the State of Israel.

  23. Citizen on January 25, 2019, 7:05 am


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  24. gamal on January 25, 2019, 8:04 am

    ” “eleemosynary”, “lubricious”, and “turnip” ”

    It’s not what they mean it’s how they make Jews feel, Racism is just a question of good manners.

    I feel great. always and thus have never ever been a victim of anything, but I am afraid I might be someday.

    Eleemosynary many thanks I would never have come across that in standard English intercourse.

  25. RoHa on January 26, 2019, 1:17 am
  26. Kathleen on January 26, 2019, 5:34 pm

    Phil did you see this?
    Tamika Mallory | Firing Line | PBS

    https://www.pbs.org/video/tamika-mallory-7gn8ud/

    The interviewer tries her best to push Mallory to resign. Then later ask ” Is it your view that Israel has a right to exist” Never ever asking if Palestine has the right to exist based on internationally recognized borders. Then the interviewer states “that there is only one country targeted for annihilation” She never ever gets near the facts that Palestine has almost been wiped out based on the illegal expansion of Israel under international agreements and law. The interviewer is so incredibly biased/

  27. Kathleen on January 26, 2019, 5:40 pm

    Today (Saturday 1/26) on AM JOY she has a panel of alleged National Security experts on discussing how Jared Kushner’s National Security status had come into question by experts and it ends up he was passed through by Carl Klein. That his security status had come into question because he had changed his SF86 so many times as well as his questionable connections with Russia (back door issue and banking), Saudi Arabia and I believe they mentioned his connections in Qatar. How his connections were under scrutiny when it came to U.S. National Security issues However not one of them mentioned Kushner’s ties to Netanyahu and Israel.

    Total chicken shits.

  28. Ossinev on January 26, 2019, 6:24 pm

    @Talkback/Echo/Roha
    Certainly not the first time that “observant” Jews have kicked up a stink on a plane:
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/el-al-diverts-flight-after-religious-passengers-become-violent-in-shabbat-scare/

    Just an observation.

    • echinococcus on January 27, 2019, 3:33 am

      This time there was no mention at all regarding if and what they were observing, except a remark by the airline employee interpreting the guy’s rant as “you told me that for religious reasons you don’t shower, is that what you said?”

  29. Peter in SF on January 27, 2019, 4:30 am

    Bari Weiss’s piece is written at the level that you’d see in a college student newspaper. It’s about a newly elected member of Congress, and what about her? Well, she wrote two tweets, one of them 7 years ago, and the writer is going to focus intensely on those two tweets because the writer is too lazy to research anything else about the Congresswoman’s policy positions or political activities. Oh, and the intense focus on the tweets is going to be all about historical and cultural references (intended to show off erudition) and how they make the writer feel, and how they make other members of the writer’s identity group feel; the writer hopes that group elders will be pleased with the piece. Not surprising that the Times website isn’t allowing comments on this embarrassment of a column.

    Rather than sharing her feelings about a couple of tweets by Ilhan Omar, I’d suggest that Bari Weiss would be serving Times readers better if she did the same with the comments by the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the Senate Minority Leader, on how Congress exists largely to protect and defend the Jewish state, and how this process is helped along by Jews serving in key positions:
    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/01/acknowledges-pressure-solution/

    • Maximus Decimus Meridius on January 27, 2019, 5:53 pm

      ” how they make the writer feel, and how they make other members of the writer’s identity group feel; the writer hopes that group elders will be pleased with the piece.”

      Sometimes I reckon when I see what you rightly describe as puerile nonsense from the likes of this “jouurnalist” – whom I had never heard of until reading this article – that their real problem is that not everyone is as obsessed with their Jewishness as they themselves so clearly are.

  30. Vera Gottlieb on January 27, 2019, 2:43 pm

    I am of Jewish background. I strongly disagree with how Palestinians are being treated and yes, I am anti Zionist. But this does not make me anti Semitic. A little scare tactic by israel and it seems to work well, seeing how so many let themselves be intimidated.

  31. Citizen on January 29, 2019, 4:07 am

    Bari Weiss has to lay down the law to counter the likes of Michelle Alexander’s arguments for anti-Zionism in the pages of the New York Times? Not to worry Bari–Here’s “America’s Rabbi” with his iron-clad defense of both MLK and Israel:

    Maligning Martin Luther King as an Enemy of Israel https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/01/28/maligning-martin-luther-king-as-an-enemy-of-israel//

    LOL

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